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(The New York Times)   Two US embassies attacked and the craven diplomatic response to it would seem to be the sort of thing that warrants New York Times front-page coverage, yes? Not if it crowds out a Romney hit-piece it's not   (nytimes.com) divider line 42
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2012-09-12 09:20:46 AM
4 votes:
i love how the romneybots have already come out and said that obama's response is "craven" when in fact he condemned it harshly. way to turn the death of an american patriot into a political point, you scumbags.

btw - what time did the incident occur, and what time does the NYT go to print? that might account for the lack of headline in the PRINT edition. i see that the online edition is leading with the killing.
2012-09-12 12:16:07 PM
3 votes:

Gulper Eel: Also a cowardly reaction.


So respectful and measured is cowardly now?

People that lash out emotionally and illogically at everything they perceive to threaten them are the true cowards.

Bravery is maintaining a cool head in the face of fear.

Of all the volumes I could write on what I found lacking and wrong about Bush, his response there would not be among them. I would also commend him for trying to explain to the nation the difference between all Muslims and the ones that attacked us.

Unfortunately, the cowboy bullshiat and 'war on terrorism' bits was the drowning warblegargle that muted what correct actions he made.
2012-09-12 12:01:00 PM
3 votes:
I'm just going to re-post this.

bdub77: So let's see if we can sort the timeline out as close as possible:

- A Jewish director, Sam Bacile (More like Im Becile), a California real estate developer who identifies himself as an Israeli Jew, wrote and directed a movie that depicts Muhammad as a pedo/womanizer/fraud. Which is probably true but let's be honest, an asshole thing to do.

- This movie was bankrolled by over 100 jewish donors and was promoted by Terry Jones, who if anyone has not heard the name before is a 'Christian' asshole who has incited international violence in the past and was on the Secret Service watch list.

- A 13-minute trailer for the film was first uploaded to YouTube in July, but did not receive much attention.

- A week ago the trailer got translated into Arabic and reposted on the same YouTube channel. Things get interesting-er.

- All of a sudden, super butthurt by Islamists as they start seeing the trailer.

- There's a protest last night at the Libyan embassy. There were obviously some security problems because some of the protesters were in fact terrorists from the Ansar al-Shari'ah organization.

- They got into the embassy and killed a bunch of people, including the US ambassador.

- The Egyptian embassy, also facing protests and not wanting to be murdered, denounced the hatred that was directed at Islam, obviously an attempt to defuse the situation there. "The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims - as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions," the embassy said in a statement published online.

- Mitt Romney, who knows nothing about international politics but is running for President and sees this as a chance to attack the president on foreign policy, said "I'm outraged by the attacks on American diplomatic missions in Libya and Egypt and by the death of an American consulate worker in Benghazi," and went on to say, "It's disgraceful that the Obama administration's Weeners was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks." Which is just a bunch of spin.

- The US government said what Egypt said was not an official US stance.

- Hillary clarified the US's position and said "Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet. The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But let me be clear: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind."

- Some newspapers picked up on the killings late and didn't have time to get them to press.

And probably somewhere in the background some Israelis are sitting back in the aftermath of the attacks and evilly twiddling their thumbs.


Then I'm going to post this: Bush Administration on 2006 Danish Cartoons: "We Certainly Understand Why Muslims Would Find These Images Offensive"

And then I'm going to post this: fark these murderous farks, fark those bigoted filmmakers and fark Romney for being an asshole about all of this.
2012-09-12 10:50:04 AM
3 votes:
So let's see if we can sort the timeline out as close as possible:

- A Jewish director, Sam Bacile (More like Im Becile), a California real estate developer who identifies himself as an Israeli Jew, wrote and directed a movie that depicts Muhammad as a pedo/womanizer/fraud. Which is probably true but let's be honest, an asshole thing to do.

- This movie was bankrolled by over 100 jewish donors and was promoted by Terry Jones, who if anyone has not heard the name before is a 'Christian' asshole who has incited international violence in the past and was on the Secret Service watch list.

- A 13-minute trailer for the film was first uploaded to YouTube in July, but did not receive much attention.

- A week ago the trailer got translated into Arabic and reposted on the same YouTube channel. Things get interesting-er.

- All of a sudden, super butthurt by Islamists as they start seeing the trailer.

- There's a protest last night at the Libyan embassy. There were obviously some security problems because some of the protesters were in fact terrorists from the Ansar al-Shari'ah organization.

- They got into the embassy and killed a bunch of people, including the US ambassador.

- The Egyptian embassy, also facing protests and not wanting to be murdered, denounced the hatred that was directed at Islam, obviously an attempt to defuse the situation there. "The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims - as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions," the embassy said in a statement published online.

- Mitt Romney, who knows nothing about international politics but is running for President and sees this as a chance to attack the president on foreign policy, said "I'm outraged by the attacks on American diplomatic missions in Libya and Egypt and by the death of an American consulate worker in Benghazi," and went on to say, "It's disgraceful that the Obama administration's Weeners was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks." Which is just a bunch of spin.

- The US government said what Egypt said was not an official US stance.

- Hillary clarified the US's position and said "Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet. The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But let me be clear: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind."

- Some newspapers picked up on the killings late and didn't have time to get them to press.

And probably somewhere in the background some Israelis are sitting back in the aftermath of the attacks and evilly twiddling their thumbs.
2012-09-12 10:17:31 AM
3 votes:

I_C_Weener: skinnycatullus: Gulper Eel: With some blubbering about abusing the freedom of speech.

That statement was issued before any attack took place, so I'm not sure how that can reasonably be considered a response to the attacks.

The embassy response was before the riot?  It was just about the film outrage?  That gives it some perspective.  Still a stupid apology for a private citizens YouTube video.  But not a response to the riots right or wrong. Are you sure?


So, angry villagers are shopping for pitchforks to attack you for something someone else did, and you think it's stupid to try to diffuse the situation by saying "hey, it wasn't me"?
2012-09-12 08:55:53 AM
3 votes:
the craven diplomatic response to it

I'm confused about what this is supposed to mean. The only official response I've seen has been condemnation.
2012-09-12 01:51:04 PM
2 votes:
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2012-09-12 12:54:34 PM
2 votes:
Farkin Christ, the Republican infatuation with Jimmy Carter will never cease to amaze me. Democrats/Obama aren't supposed to bring up the utter disaster left behind by an utter disaster of a President from 3 years ago, but Republicans get to shoehorn in the name of a President from over 30 years ago into every situation no matter how irrelevant.
2012-09-12 12:53:17 PM
2 votes:
i.imgur.com

Fark you, you smug, sociopathic bastard for trying to make political hay out of the deaths of four Americans.
2012-09-12 11:56:21 AM
2 votes:
Fark is going to shiat.

DIAF, tardmitter.
2012-09-12 11:33:50 AM
2 votes:

Buffalo77: FlashHarry


i love how the romneybots have already come out and said that obama's response is "craven" when in fact he condemned it harshly. way to turn the death of an american patriot into a political point, you scumbags.


Don't be an idiot, this is a political situation and it should be pointed out how weak the Administration's response has been. Thanks for promoting the Arab Spring, Thanks alot PBO.


Difficulty, you have absolutely no reason to believe these attack would not have occurred if Qaddaffi was still in charge. Zero. Zip. Nada.

As for Obama, right this minute, the Libyan government is so afraid of Obama's pimp hand that they are cowering and agreeing to do whatever we ask to hunt down and get the people involved, fellow Muslims, in their country. They are pissing themselves worrying that Obama will not only send the SEALs to get the rioters involved, which he most likely will do given he does not give a fark about Libyan Juris-my-dick-tion, but that they will wake up with a laser dot on their heads from the barrel of a MP-5. They are so terrified of Obama that they sent their military to protect OUR embassy from THEIR citizens.

That is why Obama is to be feared and respected above all others, especially that magic-underwear wearing Mormon moron, Romney.
2012-09-12 09:40:03 AM
2 votes:
Holy shiate, the two embassy attacks didn't even make the NY Times front page? Even MSNBC is blushing at that.
2012-09-12 09:30:57 AM
2 votes:
i.imgur.com 

The Front Page of the NYT in Submitter's link. I see nothing anywhere about it.
2012-09-12 01:57:57 PM
1 votes:

Gulper Eel (AKA subtard): And the news about the first consulate employee killed broke at around 8:30, which is PLENTY of time for a newspaper with its shiat together to rework a front page.


The Times is moving the printing schedule for its weekday front section forward - to about 6 p.m. from 11 p.m. - while creating an inside section just for late-breaking news, to go to press at 11:30 p.m. or later.

That chicken looks really, awfully, dreadfully tired.
2012-09-12 01:38:57 PM
1 votes:
Does anyone have a gif of the Romney speech? Was he actually smirking while saying Obama is apologizing for terrorists? Or did someone in the room make a funny comment? I cannot believe this is legit. Borderline traitor if you laugh at Americans getting killed.
2012-09-12 01:24:32 PM
1 votes:
Romney has not backed off the response - "It's never too early for the United States government to condemn attacks on Americans and to defend our values," he said Wednesday - but his campaign faces a near consensus in Republican foreign policy circles that, whatever the sentiment, Romney faltered badly.

"It's deeply unfortunate when the circumstance of the statement becomes the story," said Rick Perry's former foreign policy adviser, Victoria Coates, who is now an adjunct fellow at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, and who suggested that Romney should simply have "gone earlier rather than save it for midnight" to avoid appearing to play politics on September 11. "It's unfortunate that it's playing out this way, and hopefully they can get back on message, because their point is sound," she said.

Other conservatives were less sympathetic.

"It's bad," said a former aide to Senator John McCain's 2008 presidential campaign. "Just on a factual level that the statement was not a response but preceding, or one could make the case precipitating. And just calling it a 'disgrace' doesn't really cut it. Not ready for prime time."

A third Republican, a former Bush State Department official, told BuzzFeed, "It wasn't presidential of Romney to go political immediately - a tragedy of this magnitude should be something the nation collectively grieves before politics enters the conversation."



"They were just trying to score a cheap news cycle hit based on the embassy statement and now it's just completely blown up," said a very senior Republican foreign policy hand, who called the statement an "utter disaster" and a "Lehman moment" - a parallel to the moment when John McCain, amid the 2008 financial crisis, failed to come across as a steady leader. 


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2012-09-12 01:12:46 PM
1 votes:
brunich.com
2012-09-12 12:57:08 PM
1 votes:

InmanRoshi: Farkin Christ, the Republican infatuation with Jimmy Carter will never cease to amaze me. Democrats/Obama aren't supposed to bring up the utter disaster left behind by an utter disaster of a President from 3 years ago, but Republicans get to shoehorn in the name of a President from over 30 years ago into every situation no matter how irrelevant.


30 years ago might as well be yesterday unless you're talking about Mormons recognizing blacks as humans, which in that case its ancient history.
2012-09-12 12:56:35 PM
1 votes:

InmanRoshi: Farkin Christ, the Republican infatuation with Jimmy Carter will never cease to amaze me. Democrats/Obama aren't supposed to bring up the utter disaster left behind by an utter disaster of a President from 3 years ago, but Republicans get to shoehorn in the name of a President from over 30 years ago into every situation no matter how irrelevant.


And then how Saint Reagan descended from Heaven and saved America from the communists and hippies.
2012-09-12 12:31:29 PM
1 votes:
One of the Bush Administration's first reactions following 9/11 was "how can we pin this on Saddam?".
2012-09-12 12:13:48 PM
1 votes:

rufus-t-firefly: Gulper Eel: hammettman: And said events may have occured after said deadline.

The NY Daily News and the NY Post got it up just fine.

Do they have print editions produced all over the country?


Yes.
2012-09-12 11:28:58 AM
1 votes:
2012-09-12 11:22:00 AM
1 votes:
"Craven diplomatic response"? So, subby means that a person got scared when there's a raving mob trying to break in? Subby thinks he wouldn't have crapped his own shorts? Way to support our people overseas.

If subby is talking about the State Department Response, Hillary Clinton clarified what our response really is. That response was published three minutes before Mitt & Co. decided to exploit the blood of Americans for political gain. It was all of 21 minutes after Clinton's published response that the Romeny campaign told the press to go ahead and print their lies and show they revel in the death of Americans.
2012-09-12 11:19:51 AM
1 votes:

Gulper Eel: Somacandra: In the heat of rapidly changing cultural conditions

Rapidly changing? Looks like their culture's still stuck somewhere around 800 AD.


I have to say that I am just thrilled, that fat f*ck Gulper Eel, located safely behind his freedom laptop is able to sternly, (but fairly) judge people who were just trying to save their lives 3,000 miles away.
2012-09-12 11:15:04 AM
1 votes:
Subby's definition of "craven:"

The White House

Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release
September 12, 2012
Statement by the President on the Attack in Benghazi

I strongly condemn the outrageous attack on our diplomatic facility in Benghazi, which took the lives of four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens. Right now, the American people have the families of those we lost in our thoughts and prayers. They exemplified America's commitment to freedom, justice, and partnership with nations and people around the globe, and stand in stark contrast to those who callously took their lives.

I have directed my Administration to provide all necessary resources to support the security of our personnel in Libya, and to increase security at our diplomatic posts around the globe. While the United States rejects efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others, we must all unequivocally oppose the kind of senseless violence that took the lives of these public servants.

On a personal note, Chris was a courageous and exemplary representative of the United States. Throughout the Libyan revolution, he selflessly served our country and the Libyan people at our mission in Benghazi. As Ambassador in Tripoli, he has supported Libya's transition to democracy. His legacy will endure wherever human beings reach for liberty and justice. I am profoundly grateful for his service to my Administration, and deeply saddened by this loss.

The brave Americans we lost represent the extraordinary service and sacrifices that our civilians make every day around the globe. As we stand united with their families, let us now redouble our own efforts to carry their work forward.


Guess nothing short of a mass bombing raid on Benghazi will satisfy the stupid.
2012-09-12 11:13:47 AM
1 votes:

bdub77: So let's see if we can sort the timeline out as close as possible:

- A Jewish director, Sam Bacile (More like Im Becile), a California real estate developer who identifies himself as an Israeli Jew, wrote and directed a movie that depicts Muhammad as a pedo/womanizer/fraud. Which is probably true but let's be honest, an asshole thing to do.

- This movie was bankrolled by over 100 jewish donors and was promoted by Terry Jones, who if anyone has not heard the name before is a 'Christian' asshole who has incited international violence in the past and was on the Secret Service watch list.

- A 13-minute trailer for the film was first uploaded to YouTube in July, but did not receive much attention.

- A week ago the trailer got translated into Arabic and reposted on the same YouTube channel. Things get interesting-er.

- All of a sudden, super butthurt by Islamists as they start seeing the trailer.

- There's a protest last night at the Libyan embassy. There were obviously some security problems because some of the protesters were in fact terrorists from the Ansar al-Shari'ah organization.

- They got into the embassy and killed a bunch of people, including the US ambassador.

- The Egyptian embassy, also facing protests and not wanting to be murdered, denounced the hatred that was directed at Islam, obviously an attempt to defuse the situation there. "The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims - as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions," the embassy said in a statement published online.

- Mitt Romney, who knows nothing about international politics but is running for President and sees this as a chance to attack the president on foreign policy, said "I'm outraged by the attacks on American diplomatic missions in Libya and Egypt and by the death of an American consulate worker in Benghazi," and went on to say, "It's disgraceful that the Obama administrati ...


Damn if his is accurate, thats farked up.

This timeline should be on the frontpage of the NYT.
2012-09-12 11:12:10 AM
1 votes:

Gulper Eel: hammettman: And said events may have occured after said deadline.

The NY Daily News and the NY Post got it up just fine.


But the WSJ didn't. They got a small piece in the sidebar about the violence before the "big news," but that's it.

The NYT and WSJ both have national distribution. Their deadlines are probably different.

Maybe you should ask Rupert Murdoch.
2012-09-12 10:52:33 AM
1 votes:
Anyone find it depressing that international diplomacy and communications are now conducted via Twitter?
2012-09-12 10:42:47 AM
1 votes:

hammettman: Moopy Mac: Am I missing something?

"U.S Envoy to Libya Is Killed in Attack" is the top story on the front page.

NY Times front page

Tardmitter is using the printed front page, which was printed before the events happened.

Time/space continuum, how does it work?


Really, when you think about it, this is Obama's fault for not lending the NY Times his time machine. Of course if Romney was President they would be able to retroactively file to have their print edition front page recorded as showing coverage of the Ambassador's killing.
2012-09-12 10:40:45 AM
1 votes:

Gulper Eel: cryinoutloud: There's nothing that makes us stronger against the extremists than fighting among ourselves.

Yeah, mobthink is far more effective.


Do you dismiss any and all consensus as "mobthink"?
Indeed, what sort of prepubescent imbecile uses words like "mobthink" in conversation with adults?
2012-09-12 10:38:58 AM
1 votes:

Gulper Eel: cryinoutloud: There's nothing that makes us stronger against the extremists than fighting among ourselves.

Yeah, mobthink is far more effective.


You're deriving psychological pleasure from a childish attempt to wind people up about the death of a US envoy. Doesn't it ever cross your mind to be a little less selfish than useful when something bad happens?
2012-09-12 10:36:07 AM
1 votes:
So, basically, the submitter is an idiot who doesn't understand how print deadlines work and exposed himself as a gibbering moron with this headline.

There was very little confirmed information until early this morning.

Although, I'm sure if the NY Times had gone to print with speculation and hearsay the same submitter totally wouldn't have jumped all over them for running with a bunch of rumors.....
2012-09-12 10:30:53 AM
1 votes:

Moopy Mac: Am I missing something?

"U.S Envoy to Libya Is Killed in Attack" is the top story on the front page.

NY Times front page


Tardmitter is using the printed front page, which was printed before the events happened.

Time/space continuum, how does it work?
2012-09-12 10:29:01 AM
1 votes:

Moopy Mac: Am I missing something?

"U.S Envoy to Libya Is Killed in Attack" is the top story on the front page.


That's the constantly-updating website front page.

TFA is about the print front page. And yeah, lots of people still buy the Times that way.
2012-09-12 10:28:40 AM
1 votes:

Kazan: fark you farking muslim extremists, and fark your pedophile raider 'prophet' Muhammad.


I wonder if you'll feel the same about voting for a Mormon?
2012-09-12 10:27:11 AM
1 votes:
Jesus Fark is getting bad.
2012-09-12 10:24:26 AM
1 votes:

vernonFL: Tehran 1979, Beirut 1982

Cairo and Benghazi 2012.


PC Beach 1987. I stormed the embassy of many a Panhandle girl in my Monte SS... if you know what I mean.
2012-09-12 09:38:18 AM
1 votes:
Two US embassies attacked and the craven diplomatic response to it would seem to be the sort of thing that warrants New York Times front-page coverage, yes?

Negative NYT Press for Democrats? Subby must have been born yesterday.
2012-09-12 09:32:07 AM
1 votes:

Gulper Eel: With some blubbering about abusing the freedom of speech.


That statement was issued before any attack took place, so I'm not sure how that can reasonably be considered a response to the attacks.
2012-09-12 09:27:25 AM
1 votes:

Gulper Eel: The White House is disavowing the embassy's Weenerss


Geez, is Bill Swerski handling the filterpwnage these days?
2012-09-12 08:58:44 AM
1 votes:

skinnycatullus: the craven diplomatic response to it

I'm confused about what this is supposed to mean. The only official response I've seen has been condemnation.


No, you see, the right thing to do would be to start bombing before even releasing a statement. Otherwise you're just encouraging the savages to attack us further.
2012-09-12 08:47:04 AM
1 votes:
NY Times headline for Armageddon: "WORLD ENDS: Women, Minorities Hardest Hit"
 
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