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(The New York Times)   Two US embassies attacked and the craven diplomatic response to it would seem to be the sort of thing that warrants New York Times front-page coverage, yes? Not if it crowds out a Romney hit-piece it's not   (nytimes.com) divider line 399
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2012-09-12 10:30:58 AM

Kazan: fark you farking muslim extremists, and fark your pedophile raider 'prophet' Muhammad.


Did you know that Muhammead was a smoker?
 
2012-09-12 10:31:11 AM

FlashHarry: btw - what time did the incident occur, and what time does the NYT go to print? that might account for the lack of headline in the PRINT edition. i see that the online edition is leading with the killing.


I first heard about it during the 11PM EDT news.

/farking deadlines...how do they work
 
2012-09-12 10:31:26 AM

Gulper Eel: FlashHarry: i love how the romneybots have already come out and said that obama's response is "craven"

Headline distinctly says "diplomatic" response.

The White House is disavowing the embassy's Weenerss, but shiat...in the diplomatic world people agonize over the wording of statements. If the White House doesn't like what the embassy said, then clearly they and Cairo are not on the same page.


Also the embassy response was done during the protest but before the attack
 
2012-09-12 10:31:32 AM

quatchi: NYT's story on the Bengazi attack in on the US consulate in Libya?

Link

I found it in the "most viewed" part.

The Cairo flag burning/wall scaling incident?

Link

And before the ink on those are even dry Romney's campaign is already making this "bad news... for Obama".

Romney actually called Obama's reaction "disgraceful".

In response... Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt said the campaign was "shocked that, at a time when the United States of America is confronting the tragic death of one of our diplomatic officers in Libya, Gov. Romney would choose to launch a political attack."


Why is he "shocked". the GOP promised us an "October Surprise" - and this is it.
A Zionist GOP stooge times the release of his act of provocation to coincide with the election, and the GOP tries to use the resulting mess as ammunition against Obama.
The deep, pathological cynicism and unapologetic ruthlessness of the "get Obama" crowd apparently has no limits.
 
2012-09-12 10:31:42 AM
So the headline on a paper published for Wednesday morning did not report on news that occurred on Wednesday morning? I dare say I am outraged!
 
2012-09-12 10:31:48 AM
Why can't the media take it's cues from Breitbart? Why?
 
2012-09-12 10:31:49 AM
NYTimes = Soviet-era Pravda.

Das is alles, comarade.
 
2012-09-12 10:31:53 AM
Current NYT online's frontpage
growlersoftware.com
 
2012-09-12 10:32:13 AM
I just looked at the print edition of thee Seattle Times and it's about the arena deal.
 
2012-09-12 10:32:23 AM

Moopy Mac: Gulper Eel: Moopy Mac: Am I missing something?

"U.S Envoy to Libya Is Killed in Attack" is the top story on the front page.

That's the constantly-updating website front page.

TFA is about the print front page. And yeah, lots of people still buy the Times that way.

So what was Subby's point?


Outrage the the Times printed something instead of something that had happened yet.
 
2012-09-12 10:32:38 AM

Somacandra: [i.imgur.com image 348x640] 

The Front Page of the NYT in Submitter's link. I see nothing anywhere about it.


Bottom left corner. Anti-American Rage Erupts.
 
2012-09-12 10:33:25 AM

DarnoKonrad: Jesus Fark is getting bad.


Can we have some more stories about this one incident, please? There's nothing that makes us stronger against the extremists than fighting among ourselves.
 
2012-09-12 10:33:50 AM

coeyagi: Yeah, I was wondering about the timestamp of that statement. If the media gets a second cup of coffee today, they might question Romney about his press release.


That's why the Romney team originally asked them to hold off till midnight - Romney is a prophet and didn't want to show off.
 
2012-09-12 10:33:58 AM

hammettman: And said events may have occured after said deadline.


The NY Daily News and the NY Post got it up just fine.
 
2012-09-12 10:34:29 AM
Roger Ailes

1) Employ 1 conservative and 24 liberals in Ailes' estimation
2) Run unchecked statement from Romney, praising his fauxrage about Obama's administration's statements about the attacks before they even happened.
3) Profit
 
2012-09-12 10:34:33 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: NYTimes = Soviet-era Pravda.

Das is alles, comarade.


Wait, so the Germans are Soviets now?
 
2012-09-12 10:34:36 AM
Now, the Egyptian attack (which was more minor than the Libyan one) happened in the evening yesterday, New York time, but when did the Libyan one happen? I suspect it happened after this morning's paper had already gone to press.
 
2012-09-12 10:35:27 AM

cryinoutloud: There's nothing that makes us stronger against the extremists than fighting among ourselves.


Yeah, mobthink is far more effective.
 
2012-09-12 10:36:04 AM

MFAWG: I just looked at the print edition of thee Seattle Times and it's about the arena deal.


Figures. Stupid left-wing rag only cares about architecture!
 
2012-09-12 10:36:07 AM
So, basically, the submitter is an idiot who doesn't understand how print deadlines work and exposed himself as a gibbering moron with this headline.

There was very little confirmed information until early this morning.

Although, I'm sure if the NY Times had gone to print with speculation and hearsay the same submitter totally wouldn't have jumped all over them for running with a bunch of rumors.....
 
2012-09-12 10:36:09 AM

sprawl15: coeyagi: Yeah, I was wondering about the timestamp of that statement. If the media gets a second cup of coffee today, they might question Romney about his press release.

That's why the Romney team originally asked them to hold off till midnight - Romney is a prophet and didn't want to show off.


You know who else was a prophet and wanted certain things to happen at midnight?

cdn.wl.uproxx.com
 
2012-09-12 10:36:16 AM

Gulper Eel: The White House is disavowing the embassy's Weenerss


Please post the disavowment statement.

Nothing I've seen matches this description.
 
2012-09-12 10:36:28 AM
I think the appropriate response is to Nuke Tripoli. We better do that before the scheduled pro-America rallies are held, though, or else we'd just look like reactionary jackasses
 
2012-09-12 10:37:05 AM

Gulper Eel: cryinoutloud: There's nothing that makes us stronger against the extremists than fighting among ourselves.

Yeah, mobthink is far more effective.


You really are completely un-self aware, aren't you?
 
2012-09-12 10:37:39 AM

Gulper Eel: hammettman: And said events may have occured after said deadline.

The NY Daily News and the NY Post got it up just fine.


The Post only talks about the earlier Egyptian attack. Plus, I suspect tabloid papers such as those have later deadlines than traditional broadsheets such as the Times-it's easier to reprint the front page for late breaking news.
 
2012-09-12 10:38:07 AM

cryinoutloud: DarnoKonrad: Jesus Fark is getting bad.

Can we have some more stories about this one incident, please? There's nothing that makes us stronger against the extremists than fighting among ourselves.


An ambassador plus three killed?
That's reprisal material there. But Wackenhut is on the job: "The U.S. mission is very badly damaged and was being looted on Wednesday, said a contractor working at the mission, who asked not to be named for security reasons."

/"Contractor," who stood aside and let it happen.
 
2012-09-12 10:38:42 AM

MFAWG: I just looked at the print edition of thee Seattle Times and it's about the arena deal.


Seems a little late for that doesn't it?
 
2012-09-12 10:38:58 AM

Gulper Eel: cryinoutloud: There's nothing that makes us stronger against the extremists than fighting among ourselves.

Yeah, mobthink is far more effective.


You're deriving psychological pleasure from a childish attempt to wind people up about the death of a US envoy. Doesn't it ever cross your mind to be a little less selfish than useful when something bad happens?
 
2012-09-12 10:39:08 AM

NewportBarGuy: MFAWG: I just looked at the print edition of thee Seattle Times and it's about the arena deal.

Figures. Stupid left-wing rag only cares about architecture!


Lol, hockey>crazy people
 
2012-09-12 10:39:21 AM

Gulper Eel: hammettman: And said events may have occured after said deadline.

The NY Daily News and the NY Post got it up just fine.


Giving it below-fold status and giving peeping-tom shots top billing. This is on par with celebrity gossip, according to the Post and your own standards of judgment
 
2012-09-12 10:40:26 AM
Yeah, totally there was no way to get that news on the front page before press time.

webmedia.newseum.org 

And the news about the first consulate employee killed broke at around 8:30, which is PLENTY of time for a newspaper with its shiat together to rework a front page.
 
2012-09-12 10:40:45 AM

Gulper Eel: cryinoutloud: There's nothing that makes us stronger against the extremists than fighting among ourselves.

Yeah, mobthink is far more effective.


Do you dismiss any and all consensus as "mobthink"?
Indeed, what sort of prepubescent imbecile uses words like "mobthink" in conversation with adults?
 
2012-09-12 10:40:59 AM

Tigger: Gulper Eel: cryinoutloud: There's nothing that makes us stronger against the extremists than fighting among ourselves.

Yeah, mobthink is far more effective.

You're deriving psychological pleasure from a childish attempt to wind people up about the death of a US envoy. Doesn't it ever cross your mind to be a little less selfish than useful when something bad happens?


The problem is that he's an asshole. Assholes tend to be assholes about things.
 
2012-09-12 10:41:15 AM

Geotpf: Now, the Egyptian attack (which was more minor than the Libyan one) happened in the evening yesterday, New York time, but when did the Libyan one happen? I suspect it happened after this morning's paper had already gone to press.


CBS has a pretty thorough writeup, though grain of salt etc. due to it being a developing story.
 
2012-09-12 10:41:30 AM
I remember the world wide riots from the Life of Brian movie.
 
2012-09-12 10:42:16 AM
Sounds like we need to start stationing more Marines at our Middle Eastern embassies. A lot more. Also, no one thought of putting up an electrified fence to keep people from climbing over the top? We've been doing it wrong since we lost the embassy in Iran 40 years ago.
 
2012-09-12 10:42:28 AM
You know, I'm all for helping out our allies and providing foreign aid....to those who farking deserve it. Diplomacy is a two way street and one should expect that a host country would do everything they can to protect foreign dignitaries in their country. It's time pull up stakes from the Middle East and face the fact that tying that regions oil reserves to national security is a self defeating policy. All of the money spent defending these people and they spit in our face. That money could best be spent at home instead of seeing flushed down the drain in that shiathole. Let's just get the fark out of way and let them have at each other. The world might be a better place.
 
2012-09-12 10:42:47 AM

hammettman: Moopy Mac: Am I missing something?

"U.S Envoy to Libya Is Killed in Attack" is the top story on the front page.

NY Times front page

Tardmitter is using the printed front page, which was printed before the events happened.

Time/space continuum, how does it work?


Really, when you think about it, this is Obama's fault for not lending the NY Times his time machine. Of course if Romney was President they would be able to retroactively file to have their print edition front page recorded as showing coverage of the Ambassador's killing.
 
2012-09-12 10:43:06 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: cryinoutloud: DarnoKonrad: Jesus Fark is getting bad.

Can we have some more stories about this one incident, please? There's nothing that makes us stronger against the extremists than fighting among ourselves.

An ambassador plus three killed?
That's reprisal material there. But Wackenhut is on the job: "The U.S. mission is very badly damaged and was being looted on Wednesday, said a contractor working at the mission, who asked not to be named for security reasons."

/"Contractor," who stood aside and let it happen.


You expect some IT worker to stop a rampaging band of armed lunatics? I'm sure YOU would, but why would you expect that out of some contractor?
 
2012-09-12 10:43:19 AM
4 Americans have died in service of their nation, clearly it's time we all pull together and agree to hate the NY Times.
 
2012-09-12 10:43:35 AM
In the newspaper world, there is a thing called a replate.
But I wouldn't be surprised if staff cuts, both in the newsroom and in the pressrooms, have gutted the ability of even the NYTimes to be responsive to breaking news.
 
2012-09-12 10:43:45 AM

Gulper Eel: Yeah, totally there was no way to get that news on the front page before press time.

[webmedia.newseum.org image 700x875] 

And the news about the first consulate employee killed broke at around 8:30, which is PLENTY of time for a newspaper with its shiat together to rework a front page.


This will certainly take down the Times.

Are we supposed to believe some liberal bias is to blame for this? Because they could have ran with Romney/Rinse Pubis being overjoyed to bring politics in to the murder of an ambassador.
 
2012-09-12 10:44:31 AM
Benghazi and Cairo. Really, Muslims?

Back in 98, it was Tanzania and Kenya. You didn't f*ck around then. Now granted, embassies are more like Xanadu coated in polyurethane and surrounded by gators, electric fences, and RPG-toting brigades of Marines than they used to be, but we expected better from you.

We expected better.
 
2012-09-12 10:44:41 AM
 
2012-09-12 10:45:00 AM

Moopy Mac: You expect some IT worker to stop a rampaging band of armed lunatics? I'm sure YOU would, but why would you expect that out of some contractor?


Try a Wackenhut or Xe mercenary.
Why would an IT guy hang around to watch the American ambassador and three others get killed by a mob?
Think about it.
 
2012-09-12 10:45:00 AM
That's how you troll a headline, folks. Well done.
 
2012-09-12 10:47:22 AM

Lost Thought 00: Giving it below-fold status and giving peeping-tom shots top billing. This is on par with celebrity gossip, according to the Post and your own standards of judgment


The concept of below-the-fold applies to broadsheets, not tabloids. (citation)
 
2012-09-12 10:47:24 AM
So, two things are now clear (although they were fairly obvious already) - Romney and his campaign aren't going to let any foolish old fashioned "water's edge" patriotism impact how they do business, and they know they are so far behind this is the only way they can hope to get back in it. I suspect it will cause more to share the President's purported distaste for the man as an intellectually and morally bereft lightweight. What an ITG.
 
2012-09-12 10:47:49 AM

hammettman: Tardmitter is using the printed front page, which was printed before the events happened.


That's really, incredibly, amazingly dumb on the submitter's part. WTF? Because I'm looking at the NYT online right now and it's right there at the top. Seriously, submitter, have you gone mental?
 
2012-09-12 10:48:07 AM
Well, I failed in my editing of a quote. Meh.
 
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