"In most cases, taxpayers will file their tax returns reporting their health insurance coverage, and-or making a payment, and there will be no need for further interactions with the IRS," Miller said.

Most people file income tax returns, pay tax, and have no need for further interaction with the IRS. But it would be wrong to say the IRS does not enforce the income tax law. 

In Massachusetts we have a needlessly complicated system where the insurance company sends you a piece of paper and you copy numbers from that piece of paper onto your tax return. Simpler to have the insurance company report directly, check a "yes" or "no" box, and have followups in the cases where the computer disagrees.

I'm really liking the Republican version of Obamacare. We get all the benefits, and no one has to pay for anything. Who said there's no such thing as a free lunch? NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM

How long will it be before they start enforcement? I am reminded of the seatbelt laws. At first, it would be a secondary offense with only a warning. Then it turned into a secondary offense with a fine. Then it turned into a primary offense with a fine. There is only one thing you can count on about the government, when you try to deprive them of their money that they want, you will be punished for it.

I give it until 2018 before the first person that refuses to pay a fine for not having insurance ends up in jail (where he will have insurance).

/remember, your taxes are "voluntary". What happens if you don't pay them "voluntarily"?

FTFA: "By 2016, that will rise to $695 per person, with a cap that equals the greater of $2,085 per family or 2.5 percent of household income."

I would assume the majority of people who lack insurance will be due to the fact that they have a shiatty job that does not offer it and or they are poor and cannot afford the premiums.

Federal Government: Go buy insurance for your family or we will charge you a tax!

Dirt poor guy: But I cannot afford it and my employeer does not offer insurance.

Federal Government: Fine, that will be two grand!

Dirt poor guy: Whaaaaa?


Yeah, this whole situation makes a whole bunch of sense.

I, for one, am so glad that our lawgivers did their feasibility study on this.

/enforcement costs how much???

KimNorth: austin_millbarge: I've come to the conclusion that Republicans have only been pretending to oppose Obamacare, to look anti-tax to their dunderhead tea party constituents, because it sure seems like this law benefits a lot of their major corporate donors.



Um...maybe I can help clear that up. They don't oppose Obamacare in full just the parts like where it adds a tax of 10% on top of all the other taxes you already pay when you sell your home so that is and extra 20 thousand in taxes on a 200 thousand dollar home, I don't like that one either. They do like making insurance take pre-existing cases but think it is not enough when the law does not cap insurance from charging crazy prices until 3 years later so why bother.

Obamacare??? WTF?
Great trick by GOP to hang that name on what amounts to Romneycare on Steroids as approved by insurance lobby.
The health package is pretty much what the GOP demanded, but they maintain the charade for their moneygivers.

ZAZ: "In most cases, taxpayers will file their tax returns reporting their health insurance coverage, and-or making a payment, and there will be no need for further interactions with the IRS," Miller said.

Most people file income tax returns, pay tax, and have no need for further interaction with the IRS. But it would be wrong to say the IRS does not enforce the income tax law. 

In Massachusetts we have a needlessly complicated system where the insurance company sends you a piece of paper and you copy numbers from that piece of paper onto your tax return. Simpler to have the insurance company report directly, check a "yes" or "no" box, and have followups in the cases where the computer disagrees.

I hate that, I think though we also have the option of providing our insurance information to Mass instead of waiting for that stupid form... Charge Number, Group Number, that sort of stuff

EnviroDude: How long will it be before they start enforcement? I am reminded of the seatbelt laws. At first, it would be a secondary offense with only a warning. Then it turned into a secondary offense with a fine. Then it turned into a primary offense with a fine. There is only one thing you can count on about the government, when you try to deprive them of their money that they want, you will be punished for it.

I give it until 2018 before the first person that refuses to pay a fine for not having insurance ends up in jail (where he will have insurance).

/remember, your taxes are "voluntary". What happens if you don't pay them "voluntarily"?

That is up to the state I think on how they want to handle it, the Federal Government has no law requiring seatbelts

KimNorth: austin_millbarge: I've come to the conclusion that Republicans have only been pretending to oppose Obamacare, to look anti-tax to their dunderhead tea party constituents, because it sure seems like this law benefits a lot of their major corporate donors.



Um...maybe I can help clear that up. They don't oppose Obamacare in full just the parts like where it adds a tax of 10% on top of all the other taxes you already pay when you sell your home so that is and extra 20 thousand in taxes on a 200 thousand dollar home, I don't like that one either. They do like making insurance take pre-existing cases but think it is not enough when the law does not cap insurance from charging crazy prices until 3 years later so why bother.

Yea, 'bout that. Since all the middle class homes got stole, this is a problem.

All this posturing over redistribution of costs that have to and will be paid by someone, sometime.
Obscene.
The human animals on this continent need and cost "X" dollars each year for health care.
You will pay for this.
The mystery is how much the 1% contributes.

IMHO, the 1% should provide health care for the mass of humans that make them 1%. They only exist because of society.
Surcharge any tax return over $500K whatever it takes to give the same farking health insurance to every farking citizen that farking Congress has seen fit to give themselves with YOUR FARKING MONEY.
Go

mesmer242: There are both exceptions and special programs for the poor.

Cheesus: Good thing they're offering subsidies to people like that.

dumbobruni: uh, if you are dirt poor you get subsidized to buy insurance. and the definition of poor has been expanded by ACA, however that only works if you live in a state that isn't resisting compliance.

/Dems and the White House are doing a terrible job selling the benefits of ACA

Fine.

Say I make $90,000 a year and just do not want insurance? What then?

bukketmaster: Endive Wombat: FTFA: "By 2016, that will rise to $695 per person, with a cap that equals the greater of $2,085 per family or 2.5 percent of household income."

I would assume the majority of people who lack insurance will be due to the fact that they have a shiatty job that does not offer it and or they are poor and cannot afford the premiums.

Federal Government: Go buy insurance for your family or we will charge you a tax!

Dirt poor guy: But I cannot afford it and my employeer does not offer insurance.

Federal Government: Fine, that will be two grand!

Dirt poor guy: Whaaaaa?


Yeah, this whole situation makes a whole bunch of sense.

You forgot the part where forcing people to buy their product magically makes insurers lower premiums.

And the part where adding some factor of 10 million new users to the primary care system doesn't cause it to crash and burn. It's almost like the people that wrote this think laws of human behavior don't apply to Americans.