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(LBEH)   EHOWA's annual Let's Bring 'Em Home project has launched. Accepting donations to bring active-duty service members home for the holidays   (lbeh.org) divider line 110
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2003-11-24 09:56:15 AM
Bring them home for good.
 
2003-11-24 09:56:59 AM
I think Ernie's a jingoist, but I like the Bring 'em home project.

Is that allowed?
 
2003-11-24 09:58:40 AM
naive question - I'm not from the U.S. - the military does not pay for their return home??? sounds weird to me
 
2003-11-24 09:59:28 AM
As far as I know, the soldiers have to purchase their own tickets back home, if they want to take some time.
 
2003-11-24 10:01:08 AM
The military pays for the initial trip back to the US, but the individual has to pay for the trip from wherever they land to the final destination.

I personally think the military should pay for the whole trip.
 
2003-11-24 10:01:16 AM
my great plan to bring them bush shouldnt have sent them to war I mean what did we find during the war besides people who hate america but I mean if they cant get to us from where they stand so why go to war with them. Also what happened to the world trade centers yes I was very mad about it but you got to see that this happens alot to the other countrys and they just go blow them back up a little at a time they dont try to be there goverment so what the hell are we doing showing off our power forget that we need to relize yes it was wrong and not attack people that wherent involved in it a lot of the people that we killed over there I am sure had nothing to do with but who cares we say they live in there country kill them. which aint right you should only kill the people close to the leader not the guy with a gun waving it unless he shoots at you. I mean who knows he might be asking to join your army but you wouldnt know that because you already shot him. alright thatsenough biatching from me today.
 
2003-11-24 10:01:18 AM
1) they're all volunteers
2) they knew what they were signing up for
3) they get paid
4) this is their job
5) I already pay taxes
6) Now you want MORE money?
7) Screw you

/paraphrased from a student of mine, who was a vet in Gulf I.
 
2003-11-24 10:01:27 AM
Does this mean that if the Iraqis saved up enough, they could pay for all the American troops to leave? Just an idea.
 
2003-11-24 10:01:40 AM
Roger, Houston. Ernie has launched. Over.
 
2003-11-24 10:02:29 AM
Poorgirl

Active duty troops have to buy their own plane tickets if they have a pass to go on vacation, just like anyone else...what this site tries to do is collect donations so troops who have some time off can grab a flight home, instead of just kicking it near base.
 
2003-11-24 10:03:25 AM
If this thread becomes a political flamewar, I'll be very depressed.

The desert is probably a shiatty place to spend vacation, too.
 
2003-11-24 10:03:25 AM
i'm confused. is it imperative to have our troops there or not?

i mean, if a bunch of them come home for the holidays, won't that make the region unstable? and if not, why the hell do they have to be there at all?
 
2003-11-24 10:03:30 AM
Had I the time, inclination, resources, and image, I would post that "Buckle Up" picture, warning of an ugly thread.
 
2003-11-24 10:05:19 AM
How the system works is the soliders on leave are normally flown back to the base that they are based out of.

Many soliders, however, are originally from or have family on the other side of the country. They are then stuck paying a large ticket price (short notice, can't wait) to get home to their famlies or friends.

Combine the large travel distances of the US with the relatively low pay rates for enlisted personnel and you end up with troops spending their leave at a barracks in a strange city, blowing their money on booze with other stuck troops.

LBEH is a great program, IMHO. If I had a job, I'd give.
 
2003-11-24 10:05:31 AM
Ernie rocks.
 
2003-11-24 10:09:40 AM
Well, i think with a military budget like that, letting all soldiers on leave travel free wouldn't shake the system, would it?

(And how about the airlines providing free tickets for them? - wouldn't kill the companies, either)
 
2003-11-24 10:09:59 AM
I always thought that the army had there own planes or stuff.
 
2003-11-24 10:10:16 AM
Hey, this isn't a thread about your political views. There are plenty of those.
It's about giving a little to your friends, neighbors, and family during the holiday season in hopes of making their life a little bit better...

Geez...
 
2003-11-24 10:10:21 AM
no thanks if it was up to me they wouldn't be over there anyway
 
2003-11-24 10:12:10 AM
Lebowsky:

They're just doing their jobs. They can't say "no" to their boss.
 
2003-11-24 10:12:39 AM
"I think Ernie's a jingoist, but I like the Bring 'em home project.

Is that allowed?

Yes, even encouraged.
 
2003-11-24 10:14:19 AM
I'll bring 'em home by voting for a Democrat in 2004. Woot.

- A.P.
 
2003-11-24 10:14:52 AM
2003-11-24 10:10:16 AM Lloyd Dobbler
Hey, this isn't a thread about your political views.


I agree, it's not really about bashing the invasion, but I think it's political in that this is something the government (ie. taxes) should really be paying for.

However, it's not my country, and this is one instance where I will totally accept a "fark off out of our business" comment.
 
2003-11-24 10:15:15 AM
Gotta love Ernie... he is my favorite kneejerk reactionary massachussets redneck with a tendancy to pull his pecker out of his pants in public places.

He's got his heart in the right place... We should pool our money and pay him a trip to France.
 
2003-11-24 10:17:49 AM
Osiris that's fine but expecting me to help finance a war I was against to begin with is too much.

Plus it will only encourage the neo-con whoremongering bastard warlords.
 
2003-11-24 10:18:01 AM
I think the war was/is a stupid thing, but the troops had no control over that. Hopefully spending time with loved ones and decompressing will help keep them sane and stable over there with the Iraqui families.
 
2003-11-24 10:18:04 AM
I think it's a great program and plan on donating.

I've heard/read enough about Ernie to trust him more than a lot of the run of the mill charities.
 
2003-11-24 10:18:20 AM
Just like the above comments show, Liberals just don't know how to get a job done correctly. Always too lazy to see things through.
 
2003-11-24 10:19:25 AM
I don't always agree with Ernie's flag-waving either, but you have to admire his sense of duty, his dedication, his works of charity, and his love of the boobies.
 
2003-11-24 10:20:21 AM
stapon:

Well, this lazy liberal just donated some cash to bring a military person home to their family for the holidays. This lazy liberal worked for the cash and this lazy liberal appreciates and respects our military.
 
2003-11-24 10:22:05 AM
I already gave all my money to that chic with credit card debt.
 
2003-11-24 10:22:30 AM
Have some sympathy people.

I am serving in the military although not overseas, give a buck and help make and E-3's christmas. They don't make much money off the bat and could use the boost.

I agree, why can't the airlines give a seat or two every now and then...
 
2003-11-24 10:26:26 AM
I am by no means suggesting that they should not come home for a visit... this is a great idea. Put to suggest that the troops be pulled out entirely now... or if (lol) a democrat takes the presidency is absurd.
 
2003-11-24 10:27:32 AM
If you don't pull out entirely, it defeats the purpose.
 
2003-11-24 10:28:37 AM
You know, those Fed Ex planes come overhead all day and night in an uninterrupted string (like drinking from a spittoon). And it's a fact that each one has a couple unoccupied jumpseats.

.
 
2003-11-24 10:32:46 AM
They should just spend the holidays getting high with underaged protitutes, like REAL soldiers.
 
2003-11-24 10:34:42 AM
2003-11-24 10:14:19 AM WakkoWarner
I'll bring 'em home by voting for a Democrat in 2004. Woot.


Hate to break it to you, but even if a Dem is elected in 2004, our troops will still be there.

And this is how it should be. Unless, you're fine with breaking something and leaving it broken?
 
Zed
2003-11-24 10:35:20 AM
There was a nightline a few weeks ago about how it actually does more harm than good when troops come home to visit families. When they get home they are just on vacation, its not their home anymore. Their kids don't remember them and everyone is worried about them. Then it is even harder on the families when their leave is up than if they were to never come home in the first place. The little 2 week trips home do more damage to the families than just having the troops stay away. The troops obviously need the break, but for a lot of them going home is not that beneficial.

The airlines can't just give free tickets at holidays. Anyone that suggests that must never have flown at thanksgiving or christmas time. I just booked my flight to chicago for christmas and I was late booking because there were only 2 seats left on the flight that I wanted. All these flights are full or will be full by the time the soldier knows when they are going home.

"Osiris that's fine but expecting me to help finance a war I was against to begin with is too much."

You already did help finance it. And if anyone thinks that pulling our troops completely out now will do any good they are clearly morons. We are past the point of no return. There is nothing anyone can do now but support it.
 
2003-11-24 10:35:23 AM
Queen Mushroom
The desert is probably a shiatty place to spend vacation, too.


I don't know about vacation, but it's a shiatty place to spend the holidays. Thank god for the Brits and their endless supply of booze.

Friday is payday, time to give my annual donation to LBEH.

3Horn
 
2003-11-24 10:36:46 AM
you mean ernie's pad his own pocket first campaign?
 
2003-11-24 10:38:14 AM
And all Ernie will ask for "administering" this "donation fund" is a measly 40%.
 
2003-11-24 10:40:08 AM
Zed
The airlines can't just give free tickets at holidays. Anyone that suggests that must never have flown at thanksgiving or christmas time. I just booked my flight to chicago for christmas and I was late booking because there were only 2 seats left on the flight that I wanted. All these flights are full or will be full by the time the soldier knows when they are going home.


Not all of the flights are booked solid, and I'm sure that these guys & girls wouldn't mind waiting a little while on standby for a seat to open up.

And like DistendedPendulusFrenulum stated, all airliners & cargo planes have jumpseats that these guys would be more than happy to occupy for a few hours, there's no reason that the should be limited to the airline employees and FAA hitchhikers.

3Horn
 
2003-11-24 10:40:45 AM
To all the cynical asshats who think Ernie snags some of the cash, reading the damn FAQ:

Q. How much of the money sent in goes towards purchasing tickets?

A. Absolutely everything that gets donated, minus paypal fees (which average about 3%), goes to purchasing tickets. Any costs for running the program I pay for right out of my pocket... registration fees for the domain name, getting the PO box for paper donations, long distance bills incurred calling people who need tickets, FedEx charges to ship paper tickets overseas... you name it, it's all on my dime. Kat and I each spend at least 2-3 hours a day, for the entire duration of the program, coordinating tickets, and that's on top of our 9x5 jobs.
 
2003-11-24 10:40:49 AM
It's a shame they are in need of a donation, anyway.
 
2003-11-24 10:43:11 AM
baracus
you mean ernie's pad his own pocket first campaign?

flaming99
And all Ernie will ask for "administering" this "donation fund" is a measly 40%.


STFU asshats.

From the FAQ:

Q. How much of the money sent in goes towards purchasing tickets?

A. Absolutely everything that gets donated, minus paypal fees (which average about 3%), goes to purchasing tickets. Any costs for running the program I pay for right out of my pocket... registration fees for the domain name, getting the PO box for paper donations, long distance bills incurred calling people who need tickets, FedEx charges to ship paper tickets overseas... you name it, it's all on my dime. Kat and I each spend at least 2-3 hours a day, for the entire duration of the program, coordinating tickets, and that's on top of our 9x5 jobs.

3Horn
 
2003-11-24 10:43:17 AM
I am in favor of rolling back the tax cuts and using the money to increase soldiers' pay.
 
2003-11-24 10:44:19 AM
Hey OsirisOTheDead,

you seem to be the trusting sort, just the type of sucker, (I mean fellow) I have been looking for! I have a great land deal for you in Oklahoma....I PROMISE that I won't pocket all your money and fly to Vegas to spend it on hookers and blackjack. Come on, I said I PROMISE - wait, maybe I need to put my PROMISE in an FAQ...
 
2003-11-24 10:46:27 AM
And this is how it should be. Unless, you're fine with breaking something and leaving it broken?

*cough*Afghanistan*cough*
 
2003-11-24 10:47:14 AM
flaming99:

Uh, seek professional help.
 
2003-11-24 10:47:55 AM
"You already did help finance it. And if anyone thinks that pulling our troops completely out now will do any good they are clearly morons. We are past the point of no return. There is nothing anyone can do now but support it."

That is exactly what people said about Vietnam. Oops.

"History: Read it and weap!" -KVJ
 
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