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2012-09-12 01:50:46 PM

BronyMedic: BigBooper: Mugato: From who exactly?

Right now? No one. Ten years from now? Who knows. The nuclear genie is out of the bottle, and it's only a matter of time until more and more countries have nuclear tipped long range ballistic missiles. To develop a system that can shoot down a limited attack makes sense to me. While it's not feasible to stop a large scale attack, it's not only feasible, but logical to build a system that can stop a couple of 1960's style missiles filed from North Korea, Iran, etc. The cost of a limited system like that would be far less than the damage one missile could cause to a U.S. city.

Who, you say?

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Those are the only two nuclear-capable militaries on earth that are a direct threat to the United States. Luckily for us, however, the moment they launched, over 5,000 Nuclear Warheads of our own would be on the way. Mutually Assured Destruction is a powerful motivator.


Not to some poor deluded pawn who earnestly believes he's doing God's work and will get his reward in the afterlife, as will all of the righteous, and the perishing of the non-righteous is a small thing anyway. If what you said was true, the 9/11 attacks could never have happened.
 
2012-09-12 02:24:18 PM
And this coming out JUST as the Congress is about to act on Pentagon budget cuts is purely coincidental.
 
2012-09-12 02:48:45 PM
Who?
TOP. Men.
 
2012-09-12 04:06:00 PM

foxyshadis: Not to some poor deluded pawn who earnestly believes he's doing God's work and will get his reward in the afterlife, as will all of the righteous, and the perishing of the non-righteous is a small thing anyway. If what you said was true, the 9/11 attacks could never have happened.


Yeah, there were a collection of fanatical people who fit your profile of the death cult Muslim. It but suck to be so scared that every Mideast country is run by these people.

...and almost everyone involved in 9/11 were Saudis, Bush's asshole buddies. That has to be difficult to work into your theory.
 
2012-09-12 04:28:13 PM

foxyshadis: Not to some poor deluded pawn who earnestly believes he's doing God's work and will get his reward in the afterlife, as will all of the righteous, and the perishing of the non-righteous is a small thing anyway. If what you said was true, the 9/11 attacks could never have happened.


Comparing 9/11 to a Nuclear Terrorist Attack is like comparing Pearl Harbor to the Invasion of Iraq.

And since building a nuclear bomb isn't as simple as going to Radioshack, and would most definitely require the support of a major national entity which would easily be traceable, what I said is still true. Despite the posturing, no nation on earth, in it's current state, is going to hand a terrorist group a nuke. Because they know the moment they do, and the world finds out, they're going to be a glass floored, self-lighting parking lot.

A nuclear bomb is not a trifiling thing. It's not an easy thing to hide, despite what Hollywood wants you to think. Even nuclear demolition charges, which are a 1/50th as powerful as a single MIRV warhead, weigh around 100lbs. And nuclear det charges put off radiation which can easily be detected by security scanners at ports and airports. You're not going to sneak one in.
 
2012-09-12 07:29:16 PM
Mugato:
BronyMedic:


My point wasn't in regards to the actual government, but rather insurgents who infiltrate and/or bomb their way into the command and control centers where the big red buttons await. Just because the government is unwilling to do it doesn't mean every death cult leader with a personal army isn't. They only have to succeed once - and probably only could succeed once. While it would require the same years-long planning and suicidal fanaticism, whether Muslim or otherwise, history bears out that it has happened and could happen again. Just because Tom Clancy makes a living of frightening chickenhawks with doomsday scenarios like this doesn't mean it can't ever happen.

If nukes ever end up proliferating to Africa before the endless civil wars are quelled, it's all but guaranteed to happen. (Fortunately for us, I suppose, they're very unlikely to be better than barely medium range.)
 
2012-09-12 08:02:02 PM
According to Defence Journal, Pakistan's subs have a range of close to twelve thousand miles...they can travel to the Hudson River or the Chesapeake Bay, unleash their missiles on New York and Washington, then still be able to take refuge in mid-ocean, lay low and threaten other world capitals with a similar fate.

The United States operates a network of hydrophones scattered all over the Atlantic and Pacific seabed. We are listening for subs like these. But we may not be able to hear them. The Pakistani subs use a methanol-and-liquid-oxygen engine bedded on a suspension system that quiets its purr to a whisper. We may not be able to detect their silent running beneath the sounds of zebrafish fanning their tails.
 
2012-09-13 02:17:18 PM
Anyone who thinks that Iran would do nothing with a nuclear missile needs the be on the very next plane to Israel. The whole lot of them.
 
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