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(BBC)   Rights group hits "undo" on slaughter of Amazon Yanomami tribe   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 44
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2012-09-12 07:52:41 AM
It doesn't seem to say how the reports "emerged" in August. I'm curious who was lying.
 
2012-09-12 08:27:23 AM

MacEnvy: It doesn't seem to say how the reports "emerged" in August. I'm curious who was lying.


Sounds like rumors spreading through the various Yanomami tribes being accepted as fact by the time they get to the rights groups.
 
2012-09-12 09:32:59 AM
It's a pity you don't speak Yanomami, Mister Jones.
 
2012-09-12 10:00:57 AM
Damn you, Napoleon Chagnon, for making me have to learn about these guys in anthropology.

Thanks, Napoleon Chagnon, for introducing me to the stars of Cannibal Holocaust though.
 
2012-09-12 10:06:39 AM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Damn you, Napoleon Chagnon, for making me have to learn about these guys in anthropology.

Thanks, Napoleon Chagnon, for introducing me to the stars of Cannibal Holocaust though.


Funny. My anthro class was about the !kung. I think the prof just liked saying it... :)
 
2012-09-12 10:08:50 AM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Damn you, Napoleon Chagnon, for making me have to learn about these guys in anthropology.

Thanks, Napoleon Chagnon, for introducing me to the stars of Cannibal Holocaust though.


I came in here to make a Napoleon Chagnon joke. Can't believe somebody beat me to it.

/Nothing is obscure on fark?
 
2012-09-12 10:10:47 AM
Should've gotten Prime, they wouldve been shipped out in 24 hours or less.
 
2012-09-12 10:15:12 AM
farm6.static.flickr.com
 
2012-09-12 10:15:40 AM
I'm surprised Venezuela, that model Socialist paradise, hasn't properly integrated these hill people into modern civilization.
 
2012-09-12 10:17:14 AM

vudukungfu: It's a pity you don't speak Yanomami, Mister Jones.


Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Damn you, Napoleon Chagnon, for making me have to learn about these guys in anthropology.


Folks, what we have here is a wrap. Pack it up. Turn out the lights. We're done here.

/tips hat to both
 
2012-09-12 10:17:32 AM

Airportmatt: /Nothing is obscure on fark?


I think I still have a copy of this somewhere.

photo.goodreads.com
 
2012-09-12 10:17:40 AM
I remember watching a PBS show on the Yanomami tribe about 25 years ago. The anthropologist has been "given" a 10 year old tribe girl to be his wife and he accepted her as his wife...a 10 year old wife! He even had children with her! Was that Chagnon?

I just remember being horrified by the guy accepting a 10 year old girl as his wife and then having children with her.
 
2012-09-12 10:21:09 AM
This sorta reminds me of that one (apocryphal, told to me by an anthropology professor) case back in the 1960s or 70s where they thought a tribe had died out, and some people wrote some serious papers about how fragile small communities were - but then they found the tribe in a new spot on the other side of a mountain, where they'd gone to get away from the anthropologists.
 
2012-09-12 10:21:51 AM

Airportmatt:

I came in here to make a Napoleon Chagnon joke. Can't believe somebody beat me to it.


farm7.staticflickr.com
 
2012-09-12 10:27:48 AM

HKWolf: The anthropologist has been "given" a 10 year old tribe girl to be his wife and he accepted her as his wife...a 10 year old wife! He even had children with her!


i32.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-12 10:29:16 AM

HKWolf: I remember watching a PBS show on the Yanomami tribe about 25 years ago. The anthropologist has been "given" a 10 year old tribe girl to be his wife and he accepted her as his wife...a 10 year old wife! He even had children with her! Was that Chagnon?

I just remember being horrified by the guy accepting a 10 year old girl as his wife and then having children with her.


You can love your research subjects, just don't love your research subjects.

/Yes, I also think that is WTFwrong
 
2012-09-12 10:31:03 AM

Aidan: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Damn you, Napoleon Chagnon, for making me have to learn about these guys in anthropology.

Thanks, Napoleon Chagnon, for introducing me to the stars of Cannibal Holocaust though.

Funny. My anthro class was about the !kung. I think the prof just liked saying it... :)


Everything anthropology class is about the !kung. 3/4 of them in the 1XX realm use the same exact examples over and over again. Like female circumcision. You take three of them and you'll find they manage to discuss the !Kung now only as unique culture and genetic group but their shiatting habits in Fecal Anthropology. Lingustic Anthropology even manages to find a way to incorporate female circumcision.

Part of the reason I changed majors. If you made a chart of the topics between the 1XX courses you'd find it looks like a family tree of your average Arkansas family.
 
2012-09-12 10:31:08 AM
Came for the Napoleon Chagnon/college anthropology reference.

Leaving satisfied.

Airportmatt: /Nothing is obscure on fark?


NOTHING.
 
2012-09-12 10:31:31 AM

boogie_down: Airportmatt:

I came in here to make a Napoleon Chagnon joke. Can't believe somebody beat me to it.


[farm7.staticflickr.com image 500x348]


I've been around for nine years already.
 
2012-09-12 10:35:10 AM

Aidan: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Damn you, Napoleon Chagnon, for making me have to learn about these guys in anthropology.

Thanks, Napoleon Chagnon, for introducing me to the stars of Cannibal Holocaust though.

Funny. My anthro class was about the !kung. I think the prof just liked saying it... :)


My freshman anthropology class was about the !Kung, the Yanomamo, and some other group. I wanna say...the Bunyoro or something like that, but this was almost twenty years ago, so I don't recall.
 
2012-09-12 10:35:42 AM

APE992: Part of the reason I changed majors. If you made a chart of the topics between the 1XX courses you'd find it looks like a family tree of your average Arkansas family.


You nailed it. Although they did mention some of the Inuit tribes a lot too. Canadians. :P
 
2012-09-12 10:42:16 AM

APE992: Aidan: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Damn you, Napoleon Chagnon, for making me have to learn about these guys in anthropology.

Thanks, Napoleon Chagnon, for introducing me to the stars of Cannibal Holocaust though.

Funny. My anthro class was about the !kung. I think the prof just liked saying it... :)

Everything anthropology class is about the !kung. 3/4 of them in the 1XX realm use the same exact examples over and over again. Like female circumcision. You take three of them and you'll find they manage to discuss the !Kung now only as unique culture and genetic group but their shiatting habits in Fecal Anthropology. Lingustic Anthropology even manages to find a way to incorporate female circumcision.

Part of the reason I changed majors. If you made a chart of the topics between the 1XX courses you'd find it looks like a family tree of your average Arkansas family.


I only took one anthropology course, as part of my General Ed...so I did not get to experience hearing the same thing over and over.
 
2012-09-12 10:48:26 AM
R.I.P. Edamame. So tasty, so dead.
 
2012-09-12 10:51:41 AM

Airportmatt: I only took one anthropology course, as part of my General Ed...so I did not get to experience hearing the same thing over and over.


Ditto. Still a fun class, the first time. :)
 
2012-09-12 10:52:53 AM

APE992: Aidan: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Damn you, Napoleon Chagnon, for making me have to learn about these guys in anthropology.

Thanks, Napoleon Chagnon, for introducing me to the stars of Cannibal Holocaust though.

Funny. My anthro class was about the !kung. I think the prof just liked saying it... :)

Everything anthropology class is about the !kung. 3/4 of them in the 1XX realm use the same exact examples over and over again. Like female circumcision. You take three of them and you'll find they manage to discuss the !Kung now only as unique culture and genetic group but their shiatting habits in Fecal Anthropology. Lingustic Anthropology even manages to find a way to incorporate female circumcision.


There's a lip-reading joke in there somewhere...
 
2012-09-12 10:54:09 AM
When I see the word amazon, I don't even think rainforest anymore.
 
2012-09-12 10:55:01 AM
I bet Dethklok had something to do with this.
 
2012-09-12 11:06:02 AM

Airportmatt: boogie_down: Airportmatt:

I came in here to make a Napoleon Chagnon joke. Can't believe somebody beat me to it.


[farm7.staticflickr.com image 500x348]

I've been around for nine years already.


Account created: 2003-01-20 18:17:07

Egads! It's true.
I retract my snark and remain appropriately contrite. Secretary! Strike the statement from the minutes!!
 
2012-09-12 11:23:15 AM

Rev. Skarekroe: MacEnvy: It doesn't seem to say how the reports "emerged" in August. I'm curious who was lying.

Sounds like rumors spreading through the various Yanomami tribes being accepted as fact by the time they get to the rights groups.


"Hey, did you hear the gold diggers shot a Brazilian over there?"

/has no idea if they live by the border
 
2012-09-12 11:33:36 AM

HKWolf: I remember watching a PBS show on the Yanomami tribe about 25 years ago. The anthropologist has been "given" a 10 year old tribe girl to be his wife and he accepted her as his wife...a 10 year old wife! He even had children with her! Was that Chagnon?

I just remember being horrified by the guy accepting a 10 year old girl as his wife and then having children with her.


I don't thiink it was Chagnon, but someone named Kenneth Good.
 
2012-09-12 11:36:56 AM

phyrkrakr: Rev. Skarekroe: MacEnvy: It doesn't seem to say how the reports "emerged" in August. I'm curious who was lying.

Sounds like rumors spreading through the various Yanomami tribes being accepted as fact by the time they get to the rights groups.

"Hey, did you hear the gold diggers shot a Brazilian over there?"

/has no idea if they live by the border


A Brazillian of what?
 
2012-09-12 12:44:51 PM
www.cinemareview.com
 
2012-09-12 01:30:01 PM
If only illegal gold miners could sue...
 
2012-09-12 02:09:52 PM
The best way to eat an egg is poached with hollandaise sauce.
 
2012-09-12 02:10:16 PM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Damn you, Napoleon Chagnon, for making me have to learn about these guys in anthropology.

Thanks, Napoleon Chagnon, for introducing me to the stars of Cannibal Holocaust though.


One of my anthro professors in college was Dr. Tim Asch, who filmed the Yanomamo (which is how it's spelled in my books on the tribe) with Chagnon. He was awesome.

I haven't forgotten watching the films of the Yanomamo getting high on ebene by blowing it into each other's noses. Their "Moe" hairdos are also pretty cool.

Aidan: Funny. My anthro class was about the !kung. I think the prof just liked saying it... :)


Ah...the people whose language has a clicking sound. :)

/R.I.P, Dr. Asch
 
2012-09-12 02:11:20 PM

Lorelle: I haven't forgotten watching the films of the Yanomamo getting high on ebene by blowing it into each other's noses. Their "Moe" hairdos are also pretty cool.


The hairstyles, while cool, made it hell on earth to identify who was who in that fight.

/seriously, they all look the same
 
2012-09-12 02:17:52 PM

cirby: This sorta reminds me of that one (apocryphal, told to me by an anthropology professor) case back in the 1960s or 70s where they thought a tribe had died out, and some people wrote some serious papers about how fragile small communities were - but then they found the tribe in a new spot on the other side of a mountain, where they'd gone to get away from the anthropologists.


One of my anthro books mentions an African tribe (whose name I can't recall at the moment) that ran around naked until Christian missionaries showed up with clothes and convinced them to wear them. The missionaries then left. When they returned months later, the natives were still wearing the clothes, but the women had cut holes out of the fronts of their dresses to expose their boobies to make it easier for them to nurse their children, and the men had cut the crotches out of their pants to allow their weeners to hang loose. 

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: The hairstyles, while cool, made it hell on earth to identify who was who in that fight.

/seriously, they all look the same


THAT'S RACIST
 
2012-09-12 02:30:07 PM

Shazam999: The best way to eat an egg is poached with hollandaise sauce.


The shaman of the Yanomami do have an excellent recipe for hollandaise.
 
2012-09-12 02:39:23 PM
One semester, I had three classes that covered the Yanomami, only one was anthro. I should have spent that semester in Brazil.
 
2012-09-12 05:21:37 PM

LordOfThePings: Shazam999: The best way to eat an egg is poached with hollandaise sauce.

The shaman of the Yanomami do have an excellent recipe for hollandaise.


WTF? I guess I posted in the wrong thread.
 
2012-09-12 05:48:26 PM
As a undergrad I had the great pleasure of working with an 85 year old Italian man who has done most of the linguistic work on Yanomaman languages. He spent a lot of time living with them in the 1960s. As he was telling me all this, he pulled out a photo album and showed me a picture of him and Napoleon Changon.

I was helping do data entry for a Ninam dictionary (Ninam is a Yanomaman language). I never learned to speak it, but I learned some works here and there. Here are a couple, so you too can say you know a sliver of Ninam:

xama - tapir
xokoro - tamandua

The 'x' in the orthography approximately makes the sound represented by the English 'sh'.
 
2012-09-12 10:06:03 PM

Shazam999: LordOfThePings: Shazam999: The best way to eat an egg is poached with hollandaise sauce.

The shaman of the Yanomami do have an excellent recipe for hollandaise.

WTF? I guess I posted in the wrong thread.


But what the hey...IIRC my Cultural Anthro 101 from 40 years ago they DO have a terrific recipe for some kind of hallucinogenic green slime.
 
2012-09-13 09:00:23 AM

eyeq360: HKWolf: I remember watching a PBS show on the Yanomami tribe about 25 years ago. The anthropologist has been "given" a 10 year old tribe girl to be his wife and he accepted her as his wife...a 10 year old wife! He even had children with her! Was that Chagnon?

I just remember being horrified by the guy accepting a 10 year old girl as his wife and then having children with her.

I don't thiink it was Chagnon, but someone named Kenneth Good.


Thanks for the info. What a creep.
 
2012-09-13 11:48:16 AM
Yanomami is so dumb, she doesnt even know she's alive.
 
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