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(Navy Times)   The Democratic National Convention featured a moving video tribute to the strength and heroism of the Russian Navy   (navytimes.com) divider line 18
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2012-09-12 07:32:35 AM
5 votes:
OH MY GODDDDD!!!

Romney is so out of touch with America! You want this man to be Commander In Chief of our military and he can't even tell the difference between American and Russian ships? Herrrrrrrr! Derrrrrrrrrrp!

Oh wait...it was the DNC?

Nevermind then. Honest mistake.

/ Fark intellectuals
2012-09-12 08:58:59 AM
2 votes:

ObeliskToucher: . the fighters look like some model of Flanker, though, not American -- notice the forward projects at the wingtips.


They are F-5s.

Considering The original source of the picture. (scroll down) I think it's hilarious. DNC stole from the common man... Well, the Russian variety of such.
2012-09-12 07:31:45 AM
2 votes:

quatchi: So it was picture of American jet fighter trainers flying over the Black Sea Fleet 6+ years ago?

Perhaps it wasn't a mistake and honoring the Americans in the pic was the point.

/Yeah, not likely to occur to a Navy guy, just sayin'.


What if the person making the video montage just didn't know the difference?

Nah.

Bush's fault.
2012-09-12 07:26:13 AM
2 votes:
At least they didn't use Soviet propaganda, right?

i.imgur.com
2012-09-12 07:21:40 AM
2 votes:
It's pretty consistent with their past statements on the American military.

www.theodoresworld.net
2012-09-12 12:49:17 PM
1 votes:
peoplescube.virtualestates.netdna-cdn.com
2012-09-12 12:44:40 PM
1 votes:
Oh man, all my google-fu detective work went in the closed thread.

Here's the actual stock image.
image.shutterstock.com

The copyright holder is Vakhrushev Pavel.

Given that a high res version is available for purchase, I'm sure the visual guy just paid for the stock photo without looking at the photographer's name (nothing else describes that they're russian ships) and added in the super fancy jets and such.

Lazy, sure, but not an intentional jab at the Navy or anything.
2012-09-12 11:33:12 AM
1 votes:

MFAWG: FWIW, I served under Reagan and never voted Republican again. The unworkable ROE in Beirut and the subsequent, completely foreseeable disaster left a really, really bad taste in my mouth.


I served under Ford through Clinton and Reagan was the best, not perfect, but the best of the lot. Look at the differing leadership styles Beruit vs. Mogadishu. I am going to armchair quaterback here. Now I am certain Reagan did not write the ROEs and Clinton did not pesonally say no tanks and dictate tactics to the Special Ops guys. Heck neither of them were probably involved in that level of planning and ops. Also a lot of what went wrong in both cases was the fault of the local command. In Beruit the ROEs did not prevent the errection of effective barrcades and road blocks and why were so many personnel concetrated in one building? In Mogadishu we understimated our enemy . We repeated the same tactics for 5 or 6 raids so when they launched the next one the enemy was able to prepare. A little more respect for the enemy's capabilities and a rescue might have not been necessary .

How did each Administration react to the incidents. For Beruit Reagan accepted responsibility and promised never to put us (the military) in those circumstances again. For Mogadishu Clinton claimed to be "out of the loop" and Sec Deg Les Aspi was thrown under the bus and Les Aspin was not bad as Sec Defs go. Now given your miltary leadership training who showed the better leadership characteristics?
2012-09-12 10:04:43 AM
1 votes:

hasty ambush: Arkanaut: Maybe they didn't think they could be Russian ships because they weren't rusting in their docks.

That would be their subs

[media.defenseindustrydaily.com image 600x450]


www.bbc.co.uk

"I wonder if I could buy one."
2012-09-12 09:53:43 AM
1 votes:

Arkanaut: Maybe they didn't think they could be Russian ships because they weren't rusting in their docks.


That would be their subs

media.defenseindustrydaily.com
2012-09-12 09:45:43 AM
1 votes:
Maybe they didn't think they could be Russian ships because they weren't rusting in their docks.
2012-09-12 09:37:20 AM
1 votes:

MFAWG: You_Really_Like_Me: redundantman: The lesson is simple: the Democrats need to stick with what they are good at and stop trying to pander to national defense hawks.

Exactly. Reminds me of the image of McGovern riding around in the tank - wearing battle gear.

/I'm a democrat and wondering what we are good at right now.

George McGovern flew 35 missions over Germany as a bomber pilot, winning a DFC in the process.



So what? Veteran is a starndard that you should have to live up to not a shield that says you can do no wrong or that your sins or overlooked. I am a veteran and just because a politician claims to be one does not hold any sway with me.

Bendicted Arnold was decorated American hero wounded in battle became a traitor

Duke Cunningham was a Vietnam Fighter Ace later corrupt poltician convicted criminal

John Murtha decorated Marine Vietnam vet, corrupt poltician, unconvicted criminal (Abscam and many others)

John Glenn WWII and Korea War vet, astronaut, corrupt politican, unconvicted criminal (Keating 5, Lincoln S&L)

John McCain (another John maybe it' s the name) Vietnam vet, corrupt politician, unconvicted criminal (Keatng 5, Lincoln S&L)

In fact I am suspicious of any career military personnel (outside of George Washington) who goes into politics. They are opposites. One is a professionof honor, standards and codes the other is politics.
2012-09-12 08:49:45 AM
1 votes:
To contrast, here's a Republican honoring a wounded Navy vet at the 2004 RNC:

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2012-09-12 08:22:39 AM
1 votes:
l1.yimg.com
2012-09-12 07:34:04 AM
1 votes:

ck1938: It's pretty consistent with their past statements on the American military.

[www.theodoresworld.net image 335x296]


Well that and the way they treat the military absentee voter. But they do not worry too much about it as they really have written off the military vote as a whole. They are lucky to get 40% in Presidential elections.
2012-09-12 07:31:22 AM
1 votes:
The lesson is simple: the Democrats need to stick with what they are good at and stop trying to pander to national defense hawks. When they do stuff like this they are about as believable as Romney attempting to be relevant to the lucrative hip-hop/sports-fan demographic by rapping on the topic of astroturf versus fieldgrass.
2012-09-12 07:26:42 AM
1 votes:
It was just a Freudian ship
2012-09-12 07:19:09 AM
1 votes:
Try as they might, the liberals can't shake their Marxist ties.
 
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