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2012-09-11 08:19:03 PM  
9 votes:
zerobs.net

These aren't fundamentalists, folks.
2012-09-11 08:13:59 PM  
9 votes:
If you are armed, kill someone, and storm an embassy you are no longer just a "protester." Just sayin'.
2012-09-11 08:09:07 PM  
9 votes:
Fark these people.

WE DIDN'T MAKE THE FILM!!!!!!

Buy a farking globe, you God damned turds.

Why can't the Middle East just be on a different planet, say 1000 light years from here?
2012-09-11 08:33:01 PM  
7 votes:

Koalacaust: The US's response to these events is sickeningly craven:

The U.S. Embassy said that it "condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims -- as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions."
"Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy," the statement said. "We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others."

Way to stick up for free speech guys.


That's just ridiculous. Here's what the press release needs to say:

"The right to free speech is a cornerstone of democracy in all societies and is to be respected by all peoples. With this in mind, the United States government would like to remind the protesters that it was in no way affiliated with the production, distribution, or conception of the offending materials. The government of the United States would also like to state that it has sovereignty over all consulates and embassies and that the US Marines stationed in these locations have been authorized to use deadly force to defend the facilities."
2012-09-11 08:21:56 PM  
7 votes:

make me some tea: Thanks, Pastor Terry!


So it's ok to blame someone who did something that is perfectly legal in this country? The problem isn't that he did something that offended some people. The problem is those people think violence and murder are a reasonable response to getting butt-hurt.
2012-09-11 08:18:28 PM  
7 votes:
The US military is the reason the city of Bengazi still exists. Talk about short memories.
2012-09-11 08:29:01 PM  
6 votes:
The US's response to these events is sickeningly craven:

The U.S. Embassy said that it "condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims -- as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions."
"Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy," the statement said. "We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others."


Way to stick up for free speech guys.
2012-09-11 08:16:19 PM  
6 votes:
The fact that we continue to tolerate this sort of mayhem so that ignorant people can continue to chase after ghosts and magic to explain things they're too dumb or cowardly to understand is proof that most of us never really evolved.
2012-09-11 08:15:30 PM  
6 votes:
As soon as you insist upon a pure, one true way version of any ideology, you have screwed the pooch and you are part of the problem and what that ideology is is inconsequential.
2012-09-11 08:14:50 PM  
6 votes:

make me some tea: Thanks, Pastor Terry!


Yep, lets not blame the barbaric extremists who committed the murder.
2012-09-11 08:22:50 PM  
5 votes:

machoprogrammer: make me some tea: Thanks, Pastor Terry!

Yeah, let's blame him and not the guys who killed the diplomat. Because it is so hard to not outrage over someone making a film about your sky-wizard prophet


This isn't a zero-sum game. More than one entity can be held to account.

The people who attacked the embassies are criminals at best, murderers and terrorists at worst. One hopes they will be held accountable for their actions, but I'm not holding my breath.

But Terry shares some blame for his acts, which don't occur in a vacuum. He could not have been unaware of what his acts could provoke, and the risk that he was placing people in general, and Americans specifically at by giving these people a reason to coalesce their hatred into this.

Charitably, his acts might be characterized as irresponsible. More accurately I'd say he acted with callous disregard for other people's lives.
2012-09-11 08:20:03 PM  
5 votes:
If you're willing to kill someone because they (or somebody) insulted your religion, it's probably not a very good religion.
2012-09-11 08:16:02 PM  
5 votes:
This is why we should invest in the space program.
So we can get the hell away from here and nuke the site from orbit.
2012-09-11 08:44:21 PM  
4 votes:

make me some tea: Thanks, Pastor Terry!


Like so many in this thread, let me try my best to enlighten.

See, you and I both agree - Terry is a flaming assclown. However, he made a movie in America where we have "freedom" (to a degree at least). Yes, he insulted and enraged an entire religion but people need to chill the fark out. You don't burn things down and kill people because you're feelings are hurt. It's what you might call "irrational"... perhaps barbaric in some circles?
2012-09-11 08:40:59 PM  
4 votes:
Christ almighty I'm sick of religious nuts. There is not an iota of difference between Terry Jones and his followers and the ignorant muslims storming embassies. Throw them all together and let the rest of us live in the 21st century.
2012-09-11 08:34:33 PM  
4 votes:

make me some tea: Thanks, Pastor Terry!


Batshiat fundie Muslims are attacking our embassies in the Middle East over a nonsensical perceived slight to some mythical nonexistent figure. Quick who's the easiest white American for me to blame this on!!
2012-09-11 08:33:10 PM  
4 votes:

make me some tea: jshine: make me some tea: OBVIOUSLY Pastor Terry Jones did not kill anyone, but he is beating the hornet's nest. He did not have to do that. He already saw the reaction from his Koran-burning stunt. A rational person would realize the implications of his actions and not do that again. The Middle East is a farking powder keg more than it's ever been. WE DID NOT NEED THIS NOW

True, but of the various guilty parties here, his guilt is not the worst.

If Al insults Bob in a bar, and Bob shoots Al in response (or Bob goes on a wild killing spree), the one going to prison is Bob.

As in the previous thread, apparently I have to explain myself again.

Terry Jones is an idiot. These stupid muslims are even bigger idiots and now murderers. Libya and Egypt are in an especially fragile state right now. Then we've got Jones throwing a bomb from the sidelines and blows the whole farking thing up. Property damage is one thing, but now someone is dead. People have to realize the global implications of their words. This shiat flies around the world in seconds.


So we should all watch what we say because some fruit loop halfway around the world might get his feelings hurt? Are you farking serious? I mean that makes sense if you're in some official capacity (President, Secretary of State, Senator, etc.) but just random people? Really?
2012-09-11 08:28:27 PM  
4 votes:
I'm gonna re-post this from the other thread....

Dear religious people everywhere:

If your Deity were truly omnipotent then one would assume that He/She/It would be perfectly capable of fighting its own battles for itself. When you work yourself into a frenzy over an alleged insult made by someone across the planet, you merely suggest to the rest of us that not only is your "God" totally imaginary but He/She/It is nothing more than a psychological projection of your own biases and insecurities.
2012-09-11 08:21:36 PM  
4 votes:
On the anniversary of 9/11?

I'm having a hard-time believing this is spontaneous.
2012-09-11 08:20:40 PM  
4 votes:

machoprogrammer: Yeah, let's blame him and not the guys who killed the diplomat. Because it is so hard to not outrage over someone making a film about your sky-wizard prophet


Or we could blame the both of them. Or we could just point out that religious people, having actively chosen to abandon reason, are almost inevitably doomed to this sort of shiat all around.

When you start to believe that your opinions are intractable and absolutely untouchable pillars of reality after you came to them entirely through "faith", this becomes unavoidable in the long term because everybody who does that isn't going to draw the same random horseshiat conclusions out of their asses. The only solution is for all religious people to grow a motherfarking brain and stop chasing after magic in the sky.
2012-09-11 08:18:35 PM  
4 votes:
Another round of "My invisible daddy can beat up your invisible daddy."
2012-09-11 08:17:03 PM  
4 votes:
Oh, and god damn these farkers are insecure about their god and prophet.
It's not too late to convert Africa to the official "religious war" continent and ship people there to find the winning god.
2012-09-11 08:17:02 PM  
4 votes:

make me some tea: Thanks, Pastor Terry!


Yeah, let's blame him and not the guys who killed the diplomat. Because it is so hard to not outrage over someone making a film about your sky-wizard prophet
2012-09-11 08:17:02 PM  
4 votes:
offload.goarmy.com


Please Obama...pretty please? Pretty please with a cherry on top.
2012-09-11 08:15:52 PM  
4 votes:

Cpl.D: And so it begins. All the foreign religious extremism has given rise to our own religious extremists. And all this noise is precisely the excuse they're looking for to start world war freaking three.

Idiots. The lot of you.


Thank God for Religion, huh?

/I know, I know. Religion's not the problem.
//Stupid motherfarkers are the problem.
2012-09-11 11:09:20 PM  
3 votes:
I play Eve Online and this was just sent out over our Jabber server

"d­ir­e­ct­o­r­bot­[nospam-﹫-backwards]te­elfnoog­*co­m/directorbot: My people, I have greivous news. Vile Rat has been confirmed to be KIA in Benghazi; his family has been informed and the news is likely to break out on the wire services soon. Needless to say, we are in shock, have no words, and have nothing but sympathy for his family and children. I have known Vile Rat since 2006, he was one of the oldest of old-guard goons and one of the best and most effective diplomats this game has ever seen.

His family are in our thoughts and prayers.

*** This was a broadcast from the_mittani to all-all, replies are not monitored ***"

That just completely sucks.
2012-09-11 11:06:40 PM  
3 votes:

Brick-House: Economy in the shiatter

www.prunejuicemedia.com

Muslims going wild

www.historycommons.org

America neither feared or respected

derosaworld.typepad.com

Incompteance in the White House

 

Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US

(sighs)
2012-09-11 09:57:02 PM  
3 votes:

madgonad: I am NOT apologizing for the mob! However, this is the exact response that the movie screeners were trying to inspire.


At the very least, you seem to be claiming that the people who made this movie should have anticipated the violent reaction of Muslims (you actually imply that this was the desired reaction!) and thus should have never made the film in the first place. This is exactly like telling a rape victim that she shouldn't have dressed provocatively because she should have known that she was likely to get raped if she did. In fact, because she was dressing that way, she must have wanted it all along!

Free speech is free speech. I should be able to say what I want about someone's system of beliefs and not have to worry about being abducted or killed in the street because I "hurt someone's religious feelings", as the US government puts it.
2012-09-11 09:21:52 PM  
3 votes:
Dear Middle East,
So yeah, we have our nutcases and well a lot of them do and say offensive things. Things that end up going global since unlike your shiatty little third world hellhole pretty much everyone over here has a smart phone with a video camera and easy access to uncensored TCP/IP.

Now you may have just noticed I insulted your country. Why you ask? Because you really are a shiatstain third world hellhole filled with people who kill diplomats over 90 minutes worth of .mp4 encoded footage. It doesn't say nice things about you. What it really says is that the people who installed Saddam and those of his ilk might have actually had a farking clue. I don't recall many embassies getting stormed in Baathist Iraq. That is says that if an Arab Spring does happen in Saudi Arabia, maybe it is actually in our best interests to back the House of Saud. Maybe we do want a military dictatorship in Egypt.

You see where this is going right? When you're going to storm multiple embassies on the anniversary of 9/11 and kill Americans, it tells us we don't want you enfranchised. We actually might want to rethink the idea of you having political power, a say in how your country is run, and all that. Maybe we do need to install puppet leadership and have an American trained army make the streets run red with your blood.

Because at the end of the day, if the second item on your agenda of social empowered is "fark with America", then we have every reason out there to want to fark with your agenda and make sure your skulls are the ones that get cracked,

Oh and for farks sake, the Dutch are the ones making the movie. Get a clue.

-Love,
At Least Part of America
2012-09-11 09:12:01 PM  
3 votes:
Nuke them.

I'm a stupid hippie librul Canadian and even I am appalled and sick of this shiat. Every time this happens, the US should just firebomb the city, Dresden-style. If it happens again then firebomb 10 more cities. If it happens again, lay waste to the entire country. Kill every last one of these farking worthless ragheaded farkers. The world will be better off without them.

/next time, I'll tell you how I really feel
//Mohammed is a goat-farking, cocksucking pedophile piece of shiat
2012-09-11 09:05:14 PM  
3 votes:

madgonad: Screening the movies was deliberately provocative.


So if I make a movie or documentary that is liable offend someone, I shouldn't be allowed to publicly screen it lest I seem "provocative"?

madgonad: You know how pissed-off you get when you see crowds in the Middle East burning American flags?


I don't get pissed off when I see Muslims burning American flags. I guess I'm just not that sensitive. In fact, had they responded to this film by just burning American flags, no one would give a shiat, just business as usual in the Middle East. Instead they murdered a diplomat and burned down a consulate.

madgonad: except in our country it is legal to burn a flag but in their country it is ILLEGAL to insult Islam.


The thing about Sharia law is that it only applies to those who are stupid enough to impose it on themselves. These films were not even screened in an a Muslim country and violated no law, domestic or international. The same can't be said for the actions of these religious fanatics.
2012-09-11 08:55:31 PM  
3 votes:
God does NOT need a starship, and he does NOT need some scruffy yabbos storming embassies to murder people to defend His honor.
2012-09-11 08:54:30 PM  
3 votes:

uber humper: Give it another 200 years. Or better yet, if we all start converting to Islam, this wouldn't be a problem -- would it?


Yea. Because religions never find a reason to splinter and kill each other internally.

Jerseysteve22: Attacking other people just because they chose to have faith in something greater than themselves


Your god isn't real. The dead bodies your friends have left behind are. Now piss off.
2012-09-11 08:47:54 PM  
3 votes:
Whadda ya expect? The barbarians invaded the Cairo embassy and didn't get their asses kicked. So now it's open season on our embassies because hey, what ar ethe Americans gonna do? Nothing.

Mebbe if we wasted those Egyptians when they invaded the embassy, the Libyans would have maybe thought again before they tried.

It is far better to be feared than loved.
2012-09-11 08:39:06 PM  
3 votes:
Info on the movie (w/ clip)

There was a protester in Egypt with a sign that said "Respect Mohammed PBUH".

I don't know what PBUH is, but I'll respect Mohammed when people like him stop attacking embassies and people in general over stupid shiat like this.

Screw Mohammed!
2012-09-11 08:38:54 PM  
3 votes:

madgonad: Koalacaust: The US's response to these events is sickeningly craven:

The U.S. Embassy said that it "condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims -- as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions."
"Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy," the statement said. "We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others."

Way to stick up for free speech guys.

Free speech =/= tolerating dickbags

We won't muzzle these assholes, but that doesn't mean we won't condemn them.


I would also point out that we generally judge THEM by western laws. They are doing the same. Their laws would result in the death penalty for insulting Islam


We judge them by Western laws because ours don't suck as much dick as theirs.
2012-09-11 08:35:36 PM  
3 votes:

Jerseysteve22: You're just as intolerant as those you're criticizing.


Yea, real sorry about that. Real sorry I don't think it's reasonable to continue to allow people to bicker and fight until they start killing each other over who's specific version of the magic sky genie is the right one.

Fark religious people. I'm tired of pretending I should give a shiat about their stupid delusions. It's 2012. Maybe it's a little bit past the time when people have any justifiable reason to keep killing each other over magic.
2012-09-11 08:30:00 PM  
3 votes:

HawkEyes: If you are armed, kill someone, and storm an embassy you are no longer just a "protester." Just sayin'.


Perhaps someone will care to explain why "terrorist" is an inappropriate or exaggerated title. I'm having a hard time seeing it, myself.
2012-09-11 08:24:05 PM  
3 votes:

Cpl.D: And so it begins. All the foreign religious extremism has given rise to our own religious extremists. And all this noise is precisely the excuse they're looking for to start world war freaking three.

Idiots. The lot of you.


Our religious extremists wave signs on the sidewalk and post asshole comments from their basement while publishing poorly made youtube videos. Their extremists run around screaming and killing everyone in sight. Call me next time you see hundreds of fundy Baptists beheading Catholics or Mormons in the town square.

They're all fuggn idiots, but not even in the same zip code.
2012-09-11 08:22:18 PM  
3 votes:
Well I guess this is what results from a society living under a dictatorship, with all information carefully controlled and censored, for all of these peoples lives. They just naturally assume that if the film got released it must have the governments support or be its official position on things.
2012-09-11 08:21:59 PM  
3 votes:
I say if its Pastor Jones they're so pissed at, we hand him over.

Maybe throw in the Phelps family as well, just to be nice.
2012-09-11 08:21:43 PM  
3 votes:

make me some tea: Thanks, Pastor Terry!


Way to excuse a bunch of cavemen who bark at the moon every time every time their religion of peace is disparaged.
2012-09-11 08:20:47 PM  
3 votes:
Better info.

/American media sucks ass
2012-09-11 08:15:15 PM  
3 votes:

God-is-a-Taco: make me some tea: Thanks, Pastor Terry!

Let's silence his free speech then.


After all, if *anyone* is to blame here, it's not the murderous mob, it's an unrelated idiot in Florida. That much is clear.
2012-09-11 08:12:28 PM  
3 votes:
*sigh*

Ignorant people acting ignorantly ... on both sides of ocean.
2012-09-12 10:47:57 AM  
2 votes:

Arnprior Joe: liam76: Arnprior Joe: Both he and the morons in Egypt and Libya should be shot

So you are in the "first amendment takes a backseat to anything that upsets religious fundamentalists" crowd.

Got it.

No, I see his actions as equivalent to shouting fire in a theater. He knows he will incite people to hurt or kill other people, and doesn't give a fark.


By saying he shoudl be shot, you are saying the first amendment takes a backseat to anything that upsets religious fundamentalists.

As for you you "see it", your rationalization of why you want to back seat the first is wrong. People get hurt when soemone yells fire in a theatre because racing for the door is a natural act of self preservation that people can't easily ignore. Getting together in a protest over a film, that has no actual power to hurt you ,and deliberatly killing people who weren't involved in the film is in no way related.
2012-09-12 01:37:25 AM  
2 votes:
Islam is a sh*t religion and Arabs have a sh*t culture and both of them as commonly practiced in the middle-east are basically incompatible with first-world, Western, democratic societies and principles. I do however have faith in the ability of America to absorb and civilize a modest amount of middle-eastern immigrants over the space of a couple of generations. Good luck Europe.

/an atheist who prefers Christians
2012-09-11 11:21:43 PM  
2 votes:

Narcissistic fromunda stain: This is precisely what you kaffir deserve. You corrupt the Injil of Isa bin Maryam--blessings and peace be upon him--and turn on the needy among you. You promote a polytheist as a leader of the peoples. You reach out with your satellites and cables to spread your filth among the children of Allah. And you know nothing of the Qur'an you demonize, which is unknowable to those who do not speak the tongue of the Prophet, blessings and peace be upon him. Without his guidance--there is no doubt in it--you are lost, wallowing in violence and depravity with your soulless machines of death.

Democracy takes many forms, for Allah is the nourisher unto perfection. You condemn us for our lack of it, when it was crushed from us by perfidious Albion and the French. We looked upon you as a savior, and you turned on us like Judas. Now you will soon face the same fate: forced to submit to death as the rightful prophets--peace be upon them--ascend into heaven, leaving the kaffir to die in their place.

Allāhū akhbar. lā ʾilāha ʾillà l-Lāh, Muḥammadur rasūlu l-Lāh.

لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول ال


Your people and your religion murders because you love death. When there are no Christians, Jews or Infidels to kill, you murder each other because that is all you know and all you understand. You use the word "peace" in your salutations but you have no concept of its meaning.

I believe you regard Jesus as one of your prophets - then listen to His words about murderers because they apply pretty well to people like you: "You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do . He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."
2012-09-11 11:21:08 PM  
2 votes:
There are times where humanity lacks what makes it human. I sincerely wish that we find life on Mars, thriving, in its own way to seed doubt in individuals that have wavering faiths and to spark debate. We really need something to disrupt the way of life though too, in a peaceful manner, around the planet so we aren't killing each other over the things that may ultimately be meaningless.

Religion isn't what is killing people. It's people killing people.
You can be mad, but you'll get over it because you'll ultimately do something to offend someone else.
Stop the killing. It is so terribly sad.
2012-09-11 10:57:23 PM  
2 votes:

Gooseycheeks: If someone wants to draw a picture of Allah they should be able to do so without the threat of violence.


But that's hate speech! Don't you understand that it "hurts their religious feelings"? Why do you hate Muslims?
2012-09-11 10:51:08 PM  
2 votes:

vygramul: tenpoundsofcheese: If that film got a person killed and an embassy stormed and an apology from 0bama it is surprising that True Lies didn't start ww3

[www.bitlogic.com image 600x450]


We're fighting individuals. We're appeasing a culture.

We're appeasing them by saying "sorry about the film" and calling it an abuse of free speech. That's something conservative Muslims in the Middle East don't seem to get... they've done plenty to offend others, but when a film criticizing their beliefs comes out, all hell breaks loose. These incidents could have been used as a chance to point this hypocrisy out and call on their culture to practice what they preach. Instead, we said, "Our bad, now stop tearing up our embassies, oh angry mob".

And when I say they've done plenty to offend others, I don't just mean the West. Muslims in Egypt and elsewhere have done a wonderful job of pissing all over the religious/irreligious minorities in their countries... Christians can't repair churches without a permit (which are insanely hard to get), those with alternate views of the Koran are seen as blasphemers, atheism has absolutely no chance of being discussed publicly... it's a freakin' mess.
2012-09-11 10:45:21 PM  
2 votes:

madgonad: I don't know, a lot of people get seriously pissed when the see Iranians burning American flags, but they don't have a convenient Iranian embassy to vent their rage at.


I agree, people do seem to get riled up when they see footage of people burning American flags (though I stress again, I'm not one of them). However, I can't see it ever escalating to the point where a mob of angry Americans invades the embassy of, say, Syria or Lebanon, murders a diplomat, and then burns the place down, all because of a flag burning (let alone a poorly made "movie"!).

madgonad: I mean seriously, what happened is really no different than the demonstrations at G7 meetings


The people protesting at the G7 meetings are upset about things a little more important and consequential than that piece of shiat film. I also don't recall any diplomats being killed or buildings being destroyed.

madgonad: So don't go blaming 'all arabs' for this.


I never did.
2012-09-11 10:21:58 PM  
2 votes:

madgonad: No, films like this are just hate speech. Pornography which serves no civil purpose in society. The goal of the film is not to inform or discuss, it is too inflame. The creator of this film is Jewish and from California and the promoter is an anti-Muslim Christian evangelical. Here is the video - you be the judge.


Yea... that's admittedly pretty bad. Not bad as in overly offensive or hate speech material, but bad as in poor satire. I still have no problem with it existing. Would you consider a film like this lampooning the life of Jesus or the Buddha to be hate speech?
2012-09-11 10:21:31 PM  
2 votes:

madgonad: Koalacaust: At the very least, you seem to be claiming that the people who made this movie should have anticipated the violent reaction of Muslims (you actually imply that this was the desired reaction!) and thus should have never made the film in the first place. This is exactly like telling a rape victim that she shouldn't have dressed provocatively because she should have known that she was likely to get raped if she did. In fact, because she was dressing that way, she must have wanted it all along!

Free speech is free speech. I should be able to say what I want about someone's system of beliefs and not have to worry about being abducted or killed in the street because I "hurt someone's religious feelings", as the US government puts it.

No, films like this are just hate speech. Pornography which serves no civil purpose in society. The goal of the film is not to inform or discuss, it is too inflame. The creator of this film is Jewish and from California and the promoter is an anti-Muslim Christian evangelical. Here is the video - you be the judge.


Free Speech means you do not have the right to not be offended. Countries with laws against hate speech do not have free speech.

Free speech does not need to serve a civil purpose in society or inform or discuss. If it did who would get to decide if a certain speech met those criteria those -government?

.
2012-09-11 10:14:01 PM  
2 votes:

madgonad: No, films like this are just hate speech.


"Hate speech" is a term most frequently employed by left-leaning persons (often non-legal academics) in the United States and deployed whenever they favor a policy that facially violates the First Amendment. I assume from your presence on this site that you are not such a person, so please be more careful in your rhetoric.
2012-09-11 10:12:45 PM  
2 votes:

WhyteRaven74: Koalacaust: Where are the violent protests and suicide bombings in Buddhist, Hindu, or Christian countries that have been oppressed?

Your knowledge of 20th century India and Sri Lanka could use some work.


To be fair, I should have mentioned groups like the LTTE. However, it is worth noting that there have been only around 300 suicide attacks conducted by the Tigers since 1987, while Iraq has suffered over 1,000 in the last decade alone.

I should also mention that martyrdom is an integral part of the Islamic belief system, and this is not the case with most other world religions.
2012-09-11 09:59:30 PM  
2 votes:
Damn these people are easy to troll. We need to find a way to use this to our advantage.
2012-09-11 09:45:04 PM  
2 votes:

Gooseycheeks: WhyteRaven74: MoeSzyslak: In their liberal pc kool-aid guzzling minds anything minorities do good or bad is a direct result of something white people did because apparently minorities are incapable of independent thought and action.

I dunno, propping up dictators, refusing to help those in need, those are things that are going to make people really not like you. And keep on not liking you long after those dictators are gone.

Koalacaust: shiatty film being screened on the other side of the planet.

The film isn't really the problem, it's at most a catalyst. The problem is about 60 years of US foreign policy.

I'd say it's a problem with their culture, not US policy. They are too quick to violence, and too quick to be offended into violence. Take the U.S. out of the equation and there's still plenty of examples of these ass backwards people that can't integrate into modern society. Heck, they can't even integrate with each other.


I have to agree with you here. While the US's foreign policy in the Middle East has been admittedly abysmal and needs serious re-evaluation (GTFO of there, I say), there are many other regions of the globe which have been given the shaft / invaded by greater powers, and your rarely see any sort of violence on the level of what you find in Muslim countries. Where are the violent protests and suicide bombings in Buddhist, Hindu, or Christian countries that have been oppressed?

I'm not saying bad foreign policy and blowback do not play a role (they do), but fundamentalist Islamic ideology poses a unique problem.
2012-09-11 09:37:55 PM  
2 votes:

Marine1: A-theist. Without God. That's what it means. They don't believe in God in North Korea, which means they're atheists. Now, they worship the shiat out of Big Kim, which has its own negative consequences, but they don't worship a "magical" or "supernatural" being, which is what today's anti-theists label as the major cause of the world's problems.


Ahem: Just before North Korean leader Kim Jong Il died, the skies glowed red above sacred Mount Paektu and the impenetrable sheet of ice at the heart of the mystical volcano cracked with a deafening roar.

Kim Jong Il's official biography says he was "heaven sent," born in a log cabin in Mount Paektu while his father was fighting the Japanese.

KCNA said a Manchurian crane spotted in the city of Hamhung circled a statue of Kim Il Sung for hours before dropping its head and taking off toward Pyongyang. The crane is a traditional Korean symbol of longevity.

The first time he bowled, Kim Jong-il scored a perfect 300, according to North Korean media. Similarly, in his first-ever round of golf, he had five hole-in one holes for 38-under par round.

Legend has it that a double rainbow and a glowing new star appeared in the heavens to herald the birth of Kim Jong Il, in 1942, on North Korea's cherished Baekdu Mountain.

Official records reportedly show that Kim learned to walk at the age of three weeks, and was talking at eight weeks. While at Kim Il Sung University, he apparently wrote 1,500 books over a period of three years, along with six full operas. According to his official biography, all of his operas are "better than any in the history of music."

/Next you're going to try and tell me that the Japanese emperor wasn't a god
//And stop with the Christian apologetics, that nonsense never works
2012-09-11 09:34:04 PM  
2 votes:

madgonad: I'm calling BS on the flag burning. I have never met a conservative that didn't get totally butthurt over it.


Not quite sure why you assume I'm a conservative. Maybe because I happen do disagree with you on this one issue? Thanks for presuming to know what I actually believe though.

madgonad: And I didn't say anything about suppressing speech, but speech has consequences. If I came over to your house during a family gathering and called your mother a whore, I would probably expect to get punched (or worse).


Being offended or insulted doesn't give one license to attack the offender (or in this case, people completely uninvolved).

madgonad: Just FYI - a tiny tiny tiny minority of Islamists were responsible for 9/11 - yet most of this country still blames the whole religion/region/ethnicity.


I do not deny that this is true. I also assume that you, like myself, expressed indignation towards people who attacked or terrorized innocent Muslims in this country because of what a few deranged fanatics did. Why then are you apologizing for a mob which burns down a US consulate and murders one of its citizens over something done by another person on the other side of the globe?

madgonad: don't be surprised when we get the expected reaction.


Sadly, I'm not surprised: this appears to be par for the course as far as the Middle East is concerned.
2012-09-11 09:21:30 PM  
2 votes:

SilentStrider: I say if its Pastor Jones they're so pissed at, we hand him over.

Maybe throw in the Phelps family as well, just to be nice.



I would rather turn YOU over and everyone else who thinks the way you do.

Just because you don't like the way someone expresses their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS doesn't mean you get to kick them out of the country.

Plenty of soldiers fought for YOUR right to post dumbassed comments like the one you posted, even though they would probably like to punch you in the face for what you just posted.

Anti-American ASSHOLE, you are. If you don't like this country, then YOU leave it.

I suggest you go over to Egypt and Libya, and apologize for the video. See how they welcome you with loving arms, right before they behead you on camera.
2012-09-11 09:21:15 PM  
2 votes:
www.battleswarmblog.com
2012-09-11 09:21:11 PM  
2 votes:

spasmodious: fortunately we have obama around to apologize to them for offending their "religious sensibilities" while they burn the embassy and kill american staff


You're way late to the party, it's been covered by the other idiots upthread.
2012-09-11 09:20:34 PM  
2 votes:
fortunately we have obama around to apologize to them for offending their "religious sensibilities" while they burn the embassy and kill american staff
2012-09-11 09:16:17 PM  
2 votes:

Plastic Trash Vortex: Nuke them.

I'm a stupid hippie librul Canadian and even I am appalled and sick of this shiat. Every time this happens, the US should just firebomb the city, Dresden-style. If it happens again then firebomb 10 more cities. If it happens again, lay waste to the entire country. Kill every last one of these farking worthless ragheaded farkers. The world will be better off without them.

/next time, I'll tell you how I really feel
//Mohammed is a goat-farking, cocksucking pedophile piece of shiat


We should start a Kickstarter to resurrect Teddy Roosevelt. He wouldn't put up with this shiat for a second.
2012-09-11 09:15:01 PM  
2 votes:

make me some tea: OBVIOUSLY Pastor Terry Jones did not kill anyone, but he is beating the hornet's nest. He did not have to do that. He already saw the reaction from his Koran-burning stunt. A rational person would realize the implications of his actions and not do that again. The Middle East is a farking powder keg more than it's ever been. WE DID NOT NEED THIS NOW


I guess you also think Theo Van Gogh was at least partially to blame when was murdered by cowards who were "offended". Funny thing though how the same people who sympathize with the violent cowards and blame those with enough conviction to speak out are never willing to defend Christianity in any manner whatsoever.
2012-09-11 09:14:51 PM  
2 votes:

Somacandra: notShryke: Nice to see the usual leftist shiatbags decrying free speech instead of the murderers.

So far the information I've been able to find, one person has died, but I'm not able to find out much more than that. Rather than inciting a mob mentality by labeling all protesters as "murderers," I think it would be better to wait until more facts come in. If you have more accurate information, please share it.


Even if nobody had died, burning down a foreign consulate is a condemnable way to react to a (probably) shiatty film being screened on the other side of the planet. I fail to see how declaiming the actions of these people as savage and unnecessary is in any way controversial.
2012-09-11 09:13:52 PM  
2 votes:
Cpl.D


And so it begins

Begins? WTF planet are you from? Or do we blame your public schooling?

Partial list of islamist actions PRIOR to bush.


1979 Iran Hostage Crisis: seizure of US Tehran Embassy, Iran (Nov 4, 1979 for 444 days)
1983 Bombing of US Beirut Embassy, Lebanon (April 18, 1983)
1983 Bombing of US Marine barracks, Beirut, Lebanon (Oct 23, 1983)
1983 Bombing of US Kuwait Embassy (Dec 12, 1983)
1984 Bombing of US Beirut Embassy (again) (Sept 20, 1984)
1984 Kuwait Airlines Flight 221 hijacked to Tehran - American passengers murdered (Dec 3, 1984)
1985 Hijacking TWA Flight 847 hijacked to Beirut (June 14, 1985)
1985 Hijacking cruise ship Achille Lauro, wheelchair-bound American is thrown overboard & killed (Oct 7, 1985)
1986 Bombing Berlin disco frequented by US servicemen (April 5, 1986)
1988 Bombing Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland, 100′s murdered (Dec 21, 1988)
1993 First bombing World Trade Center, New York City, 7 Killed, 1,042 wounded (Feb 26, 1993)
1993 Foiled NY Landmarks plot by Omar Abdel Rahman to blow up the Holland and Lincoln tunnels
and other New York City landmarks
1993 Attempted Assassination of Pres. Bush Sr. during visit to Kuwait (April 14, 1993)
1993 Black Hawk Down: shot down US helicopters in Mogadishu, Somalia,
during Operation Restore Hope (Oct 3-4, 1993)
1994 Plot to assassinate President Clinton during visit to the Philippines
1995 Failed Project Bojinka by Ramzi Yousef to blow up a dozen US airliners over the Pacific (end in Jan 1995)
1995 Bombing US military headquarters, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia (Nov 13, 1995)
1996 Bombing Khobar Towers, Saudi Arabia, housing U.S. foreign military personnel (Jun 25, 1996)
1998 Bombing U.S. Nairobi Embassy, Kenya, Africa (Aug 7, 1998)
1998 Bombing U.S. Dar es Salaam Embassy, Tanzania, Africa (Aug 7, 1998)
1999 Foiled LAX Millennium plot by Ahmed Ressam to bomb Los Angeles International Airport
(Ressam was arrested at US Canadian border)
2000 Failed USS The Sullivans bombing that was refueling in the port of Aden, Yemen. (Jan 3, 2000)
2000 Bombing USS Cole in the port of Aden, Yemen, 17 U.S. Navy sailors murdered (Oct 12, 2000)
(The USS Cole was not engaged in any combat during this period)
2000 Bombing plaza across from US Manila Embassy (Dec 30, 2000)
2012-09-11 09:13:13 PM  
2 votes:
We have a duty to offend those who deserve offending.

At least that's what I constantly heard back in the day from the defenders of overrated art-attention-whoring like "Piss Christ" and the like.

So now it's sauce-for-the-goose time.

You want to keep your freedom of speech alive, you have to defend Andres Serrano -and- Terry Jones -and- the Code Pink loonies who protest while dressed as giant vaginas -and- Fred Phelps -and- the Occupy hippies -and- the Tea Party cranks -and- Richard Dawkins -and- Cardinal Dolan and so on and so forth.

You don't get to pick and choose based on who agrees with your team more.

Don't feed me some simpering tripe about not banging on the hornet's nest. Bad analogy, if you ask me, seeing as you can't exactly negotiate with hornets and then go looking for your Epipen when the talks go badly.

These are the kind of backward-ass goat-banging Islamist dipshiats who went batshiat because of a farking Salman Rushdie book they're too illiterate to read. Fark them nine ways from Ramadan and smear pork fat on them afterwards.

Don't ascribe reason to the unreasonable. They're not sensitive about their religion - they're hinky violent thugs. Western culture in all its diverse glory pwns theirs. It's our duty to remind them of that, to rub their noses in it, until they drop their medieval mindset, grow the fark up and join the civilized world.
2012-09-11 09:12:17 PM  
2 votes:

andersoncouncil42: jshine: God-is-a-Taco: make me some tea: Thanks, Pastor Terry!

Let's silence his free speech then.

After all, if *anyone* is to blame here, it's not the murderous mob, it's an unrelated idiot in Florida. That much is clear.

No, but he is a first class asshat for doing what he did.


What did he do this time?
There is no proof at he had anything to do with this film.
2012-09-11 09:04:21 PM  
2 votes:

Cpl.D: PBUH is what muslims must write after Mohammad. It's short for "Peace be upon him". Short explanation: They have to attach the proper honorifics to all of their holy people or it's a real bad thing.


I prefer "Piss be all over him".
2012-09-11 09:03:23 PM  
2 votes:

notShryke: Nice to see the usual leftist shiatbags decrying free speech instead of the murderers.


Welcome to Fark.
2012-09-11 09:02:21 PM  
2 votes:

shastacola: jshine: shastacola: There is not an iota of difference between Terry Jones and his followers and the ignorant muslims storming embassies.

What about the murder?

American fundamentalist aren't as violent as third world muslim fundalmentalists,that's high bar you've set, but hey, the ignorant religious nuts in the US aren't killing anyone so pat yourself on the back,dude. I swear if there was a country for atheist, I'd be packing my bags.


lh5.googleusercontent.com
2012-09-11 09:00:29 PM  
2 votes:
This has nothing to do with Terry Jones and everything to do with killing Americans on the anniversary of 9/11.

But, please, continue with the false equivalences and keep making excuses for farking cave men that should be ground up for fertilizer.

I can only hope that Obama has enough of a spine to order the intelligence agencies to find out who organized this and carried it out and then order the armed forces to kill them immediately - at this point I'm guardedly optimistic.
2012-09-11 08:57:16 PM  
2 votes:

Nabb1: You seemed quick to make excuses and absolve the perpetrators of responsibility.


No, I was just pointing out how selective you always are about sticking up for right-wing reactionary assholes as long as they are American, while everyone else has to behave. You're the one who chose to talk about Pastor Terry, not me. As far as I know he has nothing to do with this--but that didn't stop you from sticking up for him, did it?
2012-09-11 08:50:30 PM  
2 votes:
Still haven't heard anything from Obama about this.

Our embassy in Cairo invaded by terrorists. Our flag burned. An American citizen murdered at an American consulate in Libya. All this on 9/11.

The only thing we've heard from the White House is that, paraphrased: "respect of religion is a cornerstone of American society". Liberal apologists. Yup.

Where the fark is Obama?

Probably playing a round of golf.
2012-09-11 08:47:45 PM  
2 votes:
If I had the money, I'd put up billboards all over the country that said (in Arabic, Farsi, Pashtu, Urdu, and whatever else) "Mohammad was a child-molester."

Aisha, his last wife, was 6 when Mo bought her and 9 when he first had sex with her.
2012-09-11 08:45:44 PM  
2 votes:

make me some tea: Thanks, Pastor Terry!


You know, I'd much rather stick up for Pastor Terry's right to express his idiocy than make excuses for the actions of a bunch of savages. They want to silence their critics, and you seem inclined to agree. We don't measure a free society by how we defend those espousing popular ideas, but how we defend those expressing unpopular ideas. It's unfortunate to see your sentiment expressed, especially on this day, by so many people.
2012-09-11 08:45:02 PM  
2 votes:
dickbag pastor terry is to all americans as dickbags who stormed embassies are to all egyptians/libyans.

if its right to kill everyone in cairo and benghazi because these assholes acted like assholes, its right to kill everyone in florida because pastor terry is an asshole.
2012-09-11 08:42:14 PM  
2 votes:

shastacola: There is not an iota of difference between Terry Jones and his followers and the ignorant muslims storming embassies.


What about the murder?
2012-09-11 08:41:17 PM  
2 votes:

tzzhc4: We should set a precident where we nuke a city for every diplomat they kill. Just make sure it is low yield and we keep it above the ground to minimize fallout.


So, what ever happened with that neutron bomb thing from the 80s? Seemed like a good deal. Nuke the people, leave the buildings.
2012-09-11 08:40:28 PM  
2 votes:

Tennozan: With all the brotherhood and goodwill that Georgy McFlightsuit spread in the region, you'd think there'd be a little more peace amongst the enlightened folk.


Blame anyone but the perpetrators.
2012-09-11 08:35:39 PM  
2 votes:
It would be great if there was someway to transition to an alternative source of energy and stop buying oil from these countries. Imagine the shiatstorm that would start there if we stopped buying the only thing that made them exist
2012-09-11 08:34:47 PM  
2 votes:

make me some tea: Thanks, Pastor Terry!


Blame anyone but the perpetrators.
2012-09-11 08:32:48 PM  
2 votes:

Tyrone Slothrop: If you're willing to kill someone because they (or somebody) insulted your religion, it's probably not a very good religion.


Stop talking sense. This is Fark.
2012-09-11 08:29:30 PM  
2 votes:
less than human
2012-09-11 08:28:43 PM  
2 votes:
What's going to happen if the teaheadist's realize they could potentially create massive unrest and violence against US targets in the middle east if take Pastor Terry's derp and ramp it up to infiniderp.

I mean this in all sincerity. Weeks of protest and violence against US targets in the middle east (like the protests against the Dutch embassies in 2005/2006).

I mean, they hate Obama, and it sure as hell doesn't look like Mitt is going to win. This could be their only path.
2012-09-11 08:23:46 PM  
2 votes:
So, let me get this one straight... some jackwagon is completely ignoring the tenets of a religion in order to make a film about their profit (sorry, prophet. I'm used to America). Then some other jackwagons who happen to follow said religion get all uppity, grab their weapons and go shoot up a building in their country that has fark all to do with the film, killing a member of the consulate?

/I'll be in my bunker
2012-09-11 08:23:29 PM  
2 votes:

AdolfOliverPanties: Fark these people.

WE DIDN'T MAKE THE FILM!!!!!!

Buy a farking globe, you God damned turds.

Why can't the Middle East just be on a different planet, say 1000 light years from here?



The only difference between "these people" and our own copious morons are that they are in a country which is largely lacking the rule of law right now. If our country was in the same state there's is you damn well better believe that those idiots protesting the so-called "ground zero mosque" or the mosque in Murfreesboro, TN (and so on and so forth) would be killing any Muslims, Mexicans or whoever else they got their hands on who had brownish skin - and their precise country of origin wouldn't really matter to them.
2012-09-11 08:23:04 PM  
2 votes:

make me some tea: OBVIOUSLY Pastor Terry Jones did not kill anyone, but he is beating the hornet's nest. He did not have to do that. He already saw the reaction from his Koran-burning stunt. A rational person would realize the implications of his actions and not do that again. The Middle East is a farking powder keg more than it's ever been. WE DID NOT NEED THIS NOW


True, but of the various guilty parties here, his guilt is not the worst.

If Al insults Bob in a bar, and Bob shoots Al in response (or Bob goes on a wild killing spree), the one going to prison is Bob.
2012-09-11 08:20:26 PM  
2 votes:

Jerseysteve22: God-is-a-Taco: make me some tea: Thanks, Pastor Terry!

Let's silence his free speech then.

He can have all the free speech he wants. Just not here, he should be exiled from the United States and all it's territories. If our allies know what is good for them, they should refuse to let him enter. Let him go to the middle east. They'll welcome him there.


Ship him and his whole farking church over Egypt.
2012-09-11 08:19:56 PM  
2 votes:
We should set a precident where we nuke a city for every diplomat they kill. Just make sure it is low yield and we keep it above the ground to minimize fallout.
2012-09-11 08:19:42 PM  
2 votes:
OBVIOUSLY Pastor Terry Jones did not kill anyone, but he is beating the hornet's nest. He did not have to do that. He already saw the reaction from his Koran-burning stunt. A rational person would realize the implications of his actions and not do that again. The Middle East is a farking powder keg more than it's ever been. WE DID NOT NEED THIS NOW
2012-09-11 08:16:47 PM  
2 votes:
www.myfacewhen.net
2012-09-11 08:15:39 PM  
2 votes:

Cpl.D: And so it begins. All the foreign religious extremism has given rise to our own religious extremists. And all this noise is precisely the excuse they're looking for to start world war freaking three.

Idiots. The lot of you.


Just as bin Laden wanted: to watch the world burn.

Thanks a lot, you farking idiots.
2012-09-11 08:14:41 PM  
2 votes:
Way to lay out some background about the film, Mr. Journalism Guy. I especially like the part where the article mentioned the name of the film and its creator and subject matter.
2012-09-11 08:14:30 PM  
2 votes:

make me some tea: Thanks, Pastor Terry!


Let's silence his free speech then.
2012-09-11 08:14:28 PM  
2 votes:

MemeSlave: Hey look! People in different countries can communicate via social media and share common goals! Isn't that great ?


Not for that consular official or his family.
2012-09-11 08:05:09 PM  
2 votes:
Thanks, Pastor Terry!
2012-09-12 07:39:22 PM  
1 vote:

spacelord321: That's really all you've got?


That is all I need to point out how incomprehensible stupid your comment was.


spacelord321: Remeber the other day when we locked that guy in a cage and laughed at the thought of him being homosexually raped? Good times.


So you are going to double down on your stupid?

You just got favorited with "idiot red" and the "Humanitarianism is our form of Islam" tag. It is rare to see someone say something that stupid and come back with a response when called out on it that was even dumber.

I don't remember when we as a society got together to laugh about that. I don't remember when we passed a law as a society and said they should be raped. I don't remember declaring a state religion that wholeheartedly agreed with that punishment. That is because non of that ever happened and only a complete moron would compare crude jokes about a terrible thing that does happen in our society to something that is encouraged through law, popular opinion and state religion in another society.

spacelord321: How about yourselves, Joe Blowme and Liam76? I will accept anything in your current library as I admitted I have not read all of these entirely. I jump around a bit


I lived in the worlds largest muslim country for three years (go ahead and google it) and I spent about 8 months living in Egypt.

My understanding of the ME and Islam is a little more in depth than a few half finished books on my shelf I throw out in conversations to impress people..
2012-09-12 06:35:49 PM  
1 vote:

make me some tea: OBVIOUSLY Pastor Terry Jones did not kill anyone, but he is beating the hornet's nest. He did not have to do that. He already saw the reaction from his Koran-burning stunt. A rational person would realize the implications of his actions and not do that again. The Middle East is a farking powder keg more than it's ever been. WE DID NOT NEED THIS NOW


Because one must NEVER assign responsibility for murder to the actual murderers, if the murderers are Muslim.
2012-09-12 03:54:00 PM  
1 vote:

make me some tea: Thanks, Pastor Terry!


For helping the blind see
2012-09-12 03:38:49 PM  
1 vote:

Bhasayate: BigNumber12: eynonmcwanker: ArkPanda: The US military is the reason the city of Bengazi still exists. Talk about short memories.

this is the smartest and most apt post in the entire thread. we fought a war (albeit short and limited) to protect these people less than 2 years ago.


I'm honestly starting to believe that much of the world actually requires their iron-fisted dictators. That they simply cannot exist, cannot keep from reverting to tribalism and burning their society to the ground, without someone to brutally keep them in line.

That's sounds rather Conservative. Someone is gonna take a dump on your idea.



Oh it's practically guaranteed on Fark. But the reality on the ground in the Middle East tends to support my theory.
2012-09-12 03:26:03 PM  
1 vote:
i.imgur.com

Ugh. Islam is a cancer on the planet and will eventually be treated with radiation. The only question is how many infidels have to die first.
2012-09-12 03:24:54 PM  
1 vote:

spacelord321: Marine1: jpbreon: 0: The number of diplomatic personnel killed by Gaddafi. Liberal humantarian interventionism is just as bunk as the conservative kind. End your farking empire NOW.

Empire? How are we an empire?

The Libyans pass their own laws and elect their own government.

Empires nowadays are more reflected by following the arms trail. Who arms who and for what benefit. Everything must be veiwed through the lense of "The Great Game". Humanitarianism is our form of Islam; an ideology used to unite the bottom classes against a percieved foe.


Yeah, remember the other day when we stoned that guy to death for blasphemying against humanitarianism...or maybe spacelord is a farking idiot.
2012-09-12 03:11:26 PM  
1 vote:
How soon we forget the enlightnment that islam brings with it.
drinkthis.typepad.com

t2.gstatic.com

1.bp.blogspot.com
2012-09-12 01:26:04 PM  
1 vote:

jpbreon: 0: The number of diplomatic personnel killed by Gaddafi. Liberal humantarian interventionism is just as bunk as the conservative kind. End your farking empire NOW.


Empire? How are we an empire?

The Libyans pass their own laws and elect their own government.
2012-09-12 01:11:19 PM  
1 vote:
0: The number of diplomatic personnel killed by Gaddafi. Liberal humantarian interventionism is just as bunk as the conservative kind. End your farking empire NOW.
2012-09-12 01:10:23 PM  
1 vote:

eynonmcwanker: ArkPanda: The US military is the reason the city of Bengazi still exists. Talk about short memories.

this is the smartest and most apt post in the entire thread. we fought a war (albeit short and limited) to protect these people less than 2 years ago.



I'm honestly starting to believe that much of the world actually requires their iron-fisted dictators. That they simply cannot exist, cannot keep from reverting to tribalism and burning their society to the ground, without someone to brutally keep them in line.
2012-09-12 01:04:06 PM  
1 vote:

Hella Fark: totally.. if everyone agrees that these extremists always resort to violence, then someone who purposefully antagonizes them in the worst way possible, for a second time no less, is directly inciting violence in a way tantamount to pulling a trigger on the RPGs himself.

he may not know exactly who or where they will attack in retaliation, but he knows he'll get that reaction, and still does it for no other reason than to get that reaction. therefore it is impossible to absolve him of blame... the blame is shared by extremists on both ends, and these assholes need to resolve that amongst themselves and not drag innocent people and religions through the mud with them.



Freedom of Speech: Only when I agree with it, and when every last knuckle-dragging caveman on the other side of the world allows it. You'd fit right in over there.
2012-09-12 12:24:28 PM  
1 vote:

WizardofToast: Joe Blowme: spacelord321: Anyone catch the presidents speech? I just caught the last few seconds. Apperently 4 dead.

Was he apologizing again?

CNN[Updated at 10:43 a.m. ET] President Barack Obama said the United States condemns in the strongest terms the "outrageous" attack that took place in Benghazi, Libya.

"Today, the American people stand united in holding the families (of those killed) in our thoughts and in our prayers."

Obama said he will work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the attackers.


"We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act - and make no mistake, justice will be done," he said.

Obama said he rejects all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others, but there is no justification for this attack, adding that the he world must stand together to reject these brutal attacks.

"No attacks of terror will ever shake the resolve of (the United States)," Obama said.

He also said, like Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, that it is important to make sure this attack does not change the work being done in Libya.

"This attack will not break the bonds between the U.S. and Libya," he said.


Doesn't even look like an apology. He's pissed at the people behind the attack, but he's not pissed at Libya as a whole. He's even calling for the increased security of the embassy buildings. If he could find a way to go after the bastards, he should.


At least its not stopping him from going to Vegas and campaigning, priorities and all that.

/better than going golfin i guess
2012-09-12 12:22:00 PM  
1 vote:

eynonmcwanker: ArkPanda: The US military is the reason the city of Bengazi still exists. Talk about short memories.

this is the smartest and most apt post in the entire thread. we fought a war (albeit short and limited) to protect these people less than 2 years ago.


And yet we still have not learned you cant trust people ruled by an stonaged death cult. Like a battered wife that keeps believing the husband when he says hes sorry and wont do it again. Time we burned the bed.
2012-09-12 12:20:27 PM  
1 vote:

eynonmcwanker: ArkPanda: The US military is the reason the city of Bengazi still exists. Talk about short memories.

this is the smartest and most apt post in the entire thread. we fought a war (albeit short and limited) were involved in a kinetic action to protect these people less than 2 years ago.


FTFY.

But I agree wholeheartedly with your sentiment.

The thing is there are still a lot of islamists running around an no matter whta we do we will be the great Satan to them.
2012-09-12 12:17:01 PM  
1 vote:

ArkPanda: The US military is the reason the city of Bengazi still exists. Talk about short memories.


this is the smartest and most apt post in the entire thread. we fought a war (albeit short and limited) to protect these people less than 2 years ago.
2012-09-12 12:08:37 PM  
1 vote:

Arnprior Joe: liam76: Arnprior Joe: liam76: Arnprior Joe: Both he and the morons in Egypt and Libya should be shot

So you are in the "first amendment takes a backseat to anything that upsets religious fundamentalists" crowd.

Got it.

No, I see his actions as equivalent to shouting fire in a theater. He knows he will incite people to hurt or kill other people, and doesn't give a fark.

By saying he shoudl be shot, you are saying the first amendment takes a backseat to anything that upsets religious fundamentalists.


I think shooting one religious fundamentalist is worth it if it keeps him from inciting riots where other religions fundamentalists kill good people.


So not only are you ok with the first amendment taking a backseat to anything that upsets religious fundamentalists, you are fine with the death penalty if you are going to do anything to upset said fundamentalists.


I'm sorry if I don't hold a moron's "right" to get people killed dear.

He didn't "get" people killed. Backwards attitudes and a fundamentalist religion that calls for death to blasphemers got those people killed. And rather than adress those attitudes, or that religion you would blame person that holds an opinion you don't like.

That is pretty farking pathetic.


Hella Fark: is directly inciting violence


This is where you argument falls apart, you first amendment hating coward. He didn't "incite them" their backwards religious attitudes did.
2012-09-12 12:07:13 PM  
1 vote:

Hella Fark: Arnprior Joe: liam76: Arnprior Joe: Both he and the morons in Egypt and Libya should be shot

So you are in the "first amendment takes a backseat to anything that upsets religious fundamentalists" crowd.

Got it.

No, I see his actions as equivalent to shouting fire in a theater. He knows he will incite people to hurt or kill other people, and doesn't give a fark.


totally.. if everyone agrees that these extremists always resort to violence, then someone who purposefully antagonizes them in the worst way possible, for a second time no less, is directly inciting violence in a way tantamount to pulling a trigger on the RPGs himself.

he may not know exactly who or where they will attack in retaliation, but he knows he'll get that reaction, and still does it for no other reason than to get that reaction. therefore it is impossible to absolve him of blame... the blame is shared by extremists on both ends, and these assholes need to resolve that amongst themselves and not drag innocent people and religions through the mud with them.


Possible one of the most ignorant defenses of the undefensable on FARK thus far today.
Self control, only for the civilized right? islam is the problem here, not freedom to be a dick.
You make a good dhimmi
2012-09-12 11:59:15 AM  
1 vote:

Hella Fark: .. if everyone agrees that these extremists always resort to violence


Then warning people about them would be kinda like shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theater. One that is actually on fire.
2012-09-12 11:33:18 AM  
1 vote:

Joe Blowme: spacelord321: Anyone catch the presidents speech? I just caught the last few seconds. Apperently 4 dead.

Was he apologizing again?


Seemed more like strongly worded rhetoric.
2012-09-12 11:29:30 AM  
1 vote:

spacelord321: Anyone catch the presidents speech? I just caught the last few seconds. Apperently 4 dead.


Was he apologizing again?
2012-09-12 11:19:38 AM  
1 vote:
thisisyourbrainonFark

"Attention conservatives You know as well as I do that the recession began in 2007-2008 an entire year before the current president took office.jpg


And the carter recession started 3 years prior to Reagan. 2 years after carter's a-- was kicked out we were in the Reagan Recovery(tm). What's your boy done?
2012-09-12 11:10:54 AM  
1 vote:

Arnprior Joe: Boojum2k: Arnprior Joe: liam76: Arnprior Joe: Both he and the morons in Egypt and Libya should be shot

So you are in the "first amendment takes a backseat to anything that upsets religious fundamentalists" crowd.

Got it.

No, I see his actions as equivalent to shouting fire in a theater. He knows he will incite people to hurt or kill other people, and doesn't give a fark.

So Bill Maher needs to be arrested for making "Religulous," right? You are giving aid and comfort to those asshats who want to ban video games, TV shows, etc, every time a "study" comes up that shows a supposed link betwen them and real world violence. You just threw Roe V Wade in the toilet, because some nutjobs attacked abortion clinics.

You really don't understand freedom of speech.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imminent_lawless_action

Hardly.


The devil made them do it, right?
Personal responsibility, how does it work?

"Bt mommy, Billy made me do it!!!"
2012-09-12 11:10:36 AM  
1 vote:

Arnprior Joe: Boojum2k: Arnprior Joe: liam76: Arnprior Joe: Both he and the morons in Egypt and Libya should be shot

So you are in the "first amendment takes a backseat to anything that upsets religious fundamentalists" crowd.

Got it.

No, I see his actions as equivalent to shouting fire in a theater. He knows he will incite people to hurt or kill other people, and doesn't give a fark.

So Bill Maher needs to be arrested for making "Religulous," right? You are giving aid and comfort to those asshats who want to ban video games, TV shows, etc, every time a "study" comes up that shows a supposed link betwen them and real world violence. You just threw Roe V Wade in the toilet, because some nutjobs attacked abortion clinics.

You really don't understand freedom of speech.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imminent_lawless_action

Hardly.


So you agree that you don't understand freedom of speech. Good to know.

/Imminent lawless action would apply if and only if the movie specifically called for Muslims to attack American Embassys
//Criticizing them, however tastelessly? Not so much
2012-09-12 11:04:59 AM  
1 vote:

Arnprior Joe: liam76: Arnprior Joe: Both he and the morons in Egypt and Libya should be shot

So you are in the "first amendment takes a backseat to anything that upsets religious fundamentalists" crowd.

Got it.

No, I see his actions as equivalent to shouting fire in a theater. He knows he will incite people to hurt or kill other people, and doesn't give a fark.


And for the stupid in here: "Shouting fire in a crowded theater" refers to reckless actions in close proximity to people who, due to immediate circumstances, cannot ascertain the truth or falseness of an alarm and will react with panic, possible injuring people. That is it, it is perfectly acceptable to do if there is in fact a fire in a theater. At no point is there an equivalence extended beyond "crowd within earshot in tight conditions," it is not a metaphor for careful speech, and it does not protect, absolve, excuse, or divert blame for the behavior of thuggish barbarians in a shiatty country across the world.
2012-09-12 11:04:56 AM  
1 vote:

ArmyWarVet: Hugh2d2: AdolfOliverPanties: Fark these people.

WE DIDN'T MAKE THE FILM!!!!!!

Buy a farking globe, you God damned turds.

Why can't the Middle East just be on a different planet, say 1000 light years from here?

Is Kolob available?

Who did light this candle?


Islam
2012-09-12 10:56:21 AM  
1 vote:

Arnprior Joe: liam76: Arnprior Joe: Both he and the morons in Egypt and Libya should be shot

So you are in the "first amendment takes a backseat to anything that upsets religious fundamentalists" crowd.

Got it.

No, I see his actions as equivalent to shouting fire in a theater. He knows he will incite people to hurt or kill other people, and doesn't give a fark.


So Bill Maher needs to be arrested for making "Religulous," right? You are giving aid and comfort to those asshats who want to ban video games, TV shows, etc, every time a "study" comes up that shows a supposed link betwen them and real world violence. You just threw Roe V Wade in the toilet, because some nutjobs attacked abortion clinics.

You really don't understand freedom of speech.
2012-09-12 10:55:08 AM  
1 vote:

Nick Nostril: God-is-a-Taco: Oh, and god damn these farkers are insecure about their god and prophet.
It's not too late to convert Africa to the official "religious war" continent and ship people there to find the winning god.

Your idea actually has merit. I say this only because these whackjobs aren't going away... at least not fast enough for the more sane part of the world.


www.cios.org 
Stupidity isn't confined to religion alone. Idiots are everywhere.
2012-09-12 10:51:52 AM  
1 vote:

netweavr: On the anniversary of 9/11?

I'm having a hard-time believing this is spontaneous.


This. They are saying it is for this film that was produced, but that isn't it. This was a coordinated attach by hard-line Islamic extremists. They use Islam to fire-up the masses as a tool for terror and destruction.

I'm a bleeding heart liberal. I hope Obama burns that farking place to the ground.

/He won't.
2012-09-12 10:44:31 AM  
1 vote:

RedVentrue: Joe Blowme: Arnprior Joe: Joe Blowme: DHIMMI personified at the state department
"We condemn the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims."
Like blamig the rape vistum for dressing provocatively, just farking pathetic.

You don't think that Jones' idiocy is at all to blame for this? Jones isn't some girl walking home in a short skirt. He's Renton shooting a pitbull in the ass with a pellet gun.

[25.media.tumblr.com image 500x340]

Both he and the morons in Egypt and Libya should be shot.

No. they have proven time and time again they have no self control. What other groups rape and pillage everytime someone hurts their little feelings? Just like teh cartoons awhile back, and all the other shiat they are offended by. They are a savage, inbred death cult that needs to be stamped out and ostracized like the nazis were.

"tolerance of evil is a crime"

Islam needs a reformation. When Muslims will no longer tolerate the violence perpetrated in thier name, then will we see change. Outside pressure will accomplish nothing, and often makes matters worse. If you want a fire to die, you starve it, you don't feed it.


BUt first you must stop those starting the fires, in this case the savage death cultists.
2012-09-12 10:34:42 AM  
1 vote:

Joe Blowme: Arnprior Joe: Joe Blowme: DHIMMI personified at the state department
"We condemn the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims."
Like blamig the rape vistum for dressing provocatively, just farking pathetic.

You don't think that Jones' idiocy is at all to blame for this? Jones isn't some girl walking home in a short skirt. He's Renton shooting a pitbull in the ass with a pellet gun.

[25.media.tumblr.com image 500x340]

Both he and the morons in Egypt and Libya should be shot.

No. they have proven time and time again they have no self control. What other groups rape and pillage everytime someone hurts their little feelings? Just like teh cartoons awhile back, and all the other shiat they are offended by. They are a savage, inbred death cult that needs to be stamped out and ostracized like the nazis were.

"tolerance of evil is a crime"


Islam needs a reformation. When Muslims will no longer tolerate the violence perpetrated in thier name, then will we see change. Outside pressure will accomplish nothing, and often makes matters worse. If you want a fire to die, you starve it, you don't feed it.
2012-09-12 10:28:18 AM  
1 vote:
Kill the Libyan ambassadors here.
Dress 'em up like Mohammed and use them to put on a puppet show.

/Then carpet bomb the entire nation.
//Then nuke it. They deserve nothing less.
2012-09-12 10:24:42 AM  
1 vote:

Arnprior Joe: Joe Blowme: DHIMMI personified at the state department
"We condemn the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims."
Like blamig the rape vistum for dressing provocatively, just farking pathetic.

You don't think that Jones' idiocy is at all to blame for this? Jones isn't some girl walking home in a short skirt. He's Renton shooting a pitbull in the ass with a pellet gun.

[25.media.tumblr.com image 500x340]

Both he and the morons in Egypt and Libya should be shot.


No. they have proven time and time again they have no self control. What other groups rape and pillage everytime someone hurts their little feelings? Just like teh cartoons awhile back, and all the other shiat they are offended by. They are a savage, inbred death cult that needs to be stamped out and ostracized like the nazis were.

"tolerance of evil is a crime"
2012-09-12 10:20:39 AM  
1 vote:

Arnprior Joe: Both he and the morons in Egypt and Libya should be shot


So you are in the "first amendment takes a backseat to anything that upsets religious fundamentalists" crowd.

Got it.
2012-09-12 10:13:48 AM  
1 vote:

Palfas: RedVentrue: intelligent comment below: A small group of radical Islamist's do something stupid = typical of all Islam

A small group of radical Christians do something stupid = isolated incidents

Gotta love the double standard of bigots

You want to call someone a bigot, look in the mirror while doing it.

You might be right, then. :)

Please to explain how icb's statement was bigoted? Stereotyping maybe, but not bigoted, and not entirely inaccurate. All you have to do is read the thread to see that most people are blaming Islam in it's entirety.


Most of the posts in this thread were either blaming both fundie groups, or advocated turning Libya into a neuclear parking lot.

icb's comment history has been riddled with anti christian rhetoric, not only in this thead, but many others. icb has a right to feel however he feels, but should remember that not all christians are frothing at the mouth while actively trying to bring about armageddon, and neither are all muslims.

I am neither a christian, nor a muslim, but I don't like when people blame an entire group for the actions of a few.

icb is exhibiting the same reasoning as the Libians in TFA.

People like icb are why we can't have nice things.
2012-09-12 09:57:33 AM  
1 vote:
DHIMMI personified at the state department
"We condemn the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims."
Like blamig the rape vistum for dressing provocatively, just farking pathetic.
2012-09-12 09:47:24 AM  
1 vote:

Somacandra: legion_of_doo: I'm sure I'm the only one who will respond about PBUH

LOL


I was being sarcastic because I thought that was pretty much common knowledge by now. Who doesn't know the borderline idolatrous stuff attached to Mohammed?

WMittensRomney: 3. I don't, off the top of my head, know of any specific violent Christian protests in countries where Christians are a minority (well, unless you count the 2 Coptic Christian guys in the U.S. that helped incite this clusterf@#), but there was, like the whole past decade when the Christian fundamentalists controlled the U.S. government and contributed greatly to supporting the invasion of Iraq and a whole lot of other shiat that's resulted in 300K dead people, including U.S. troops. Some of them also support Israel on the basis of the theological basis that the Jews have to occupy Palestine and then when the rapture happens the Jews will be wiped out and the Christians will take it over. And there's Switzerland banning mosque construction (which wasn't an issue to begin with), the ban on veils in France, the crazy racist Norwegian Breivik...if you go back far enough, there's the crusades. Also, Christian groups in Africa are really enthusiastic about letting everyone know that the gays are horrible, even though there are countries like Uganda and elsewhere where they can already be killed. Hell - in the U.S., Reagan didn't do anything about AIDS at first because it was a "gay disease."


What the fark is this derp? Christians put sand in your shorts? Run over your dog?

Even Bono applauded Dubya on being active about AIDS in Africa. And somehow you're painting all Christians with that Norwegian guy, the ban on veils in France (which was just touted as an atheist country up thread), and the problems that the Juice bring to the world.

/WMittensRomney: I BET TEH CHRISTYUNS DID IT!!!!!!
2012-09-12 09:42:27 AM  
1 vote:

WMittensRomney: Koalacaust: WhyteRaven74: Koalacaust: Where are the violent protests and suicide bombings in Buddhist, Hindu, or Christian countries that have been oppressed?

Martyrdon is the central part of Christianity.


If you're comparing Christ's sacrifice and martyrdom by flying bombs into buildings to kill civilians then you may want to revisit your understanding of Christianity.
2012-09-12 09:34:42 AM  
1 vote:
How manu more to these savages have to kill before ignorant people stop make excuses for these stoneage mutants? How many more must die in the name of islam before people open their eyes to the threat? How long will the stupid pay jizya before they realize they are being dupped? Time to send in the marines, Barbary Pirates 2: electric boogaloo
2012-09-12 09:27:32 AM  
1 vote:
WTF are we looking at here? A Libyan militant disecrating the dead body of our Ambassador... or simply a Libyan carrying a body away from the scene to return it to us (I hope the later)?

Not being sarcastic, I really don't know, Drudge and the AP just threw this up with no caption....

i.imgur.com
2012-09-12 09:18:52 AM  
1 vote:
Behold... the power of islam. Must be a thankyou for helping get rid of Momar. Nice.
I wonder how long till we apologise and give them more money.
2012-09-12 09:10:14 AM  
1 vote:

intelligent comment below: A small group of radical Islamist's do something stupid = typical of all Islam

A small group of radical Christians do something stupid = isolated incidents

Gotta love the double standard of bigots


You want to call someone a bigot, look in the mirror while doing it.

You might be right, then. :)
2012-09-12 08:55:52 AM  
1 vote:

Dedmon: Silly Jesus: make me some tea: jshine: make me some tea: OBVIOUSLY Pastor Terry Jones did not kill anyone, but he is beating the hornet's nest. He did not have to do that. He already saw the reaction from his Koran-burning stunt. A rational person would realize the implications of his actions and not do that again. The Middle East is a farking powder keg more than it's ever been. WE DID NOT NEED THIS NOW

True, but of the various guilty parties here, his guilt is not the worst.

If Al insults Bob in a bar, and Bob shoots Al in response (or Bob goes on a wild killing spree), the one going to prison is Bob.

As in the previous thread, apparently I have to explain myself again.

Terry Jones is an idiot. These stupid muslims are even bigger idiots and now murderers. Libya and Egypt are in an especially fragile state right now. Then we've got Jones throwing a bomb from the sidelines and blows the whole farking thing up. Property damage is one thing, but now someone is dead. People have to realize the global implications of their words. This shiat flies around the world in seconds.

So we should all watch what we say because some fruit loop halfway around the world might get his feelings hurt? Are you farking serious? I mean that makes sense if you're in some official capacity (President, Secretary of State, Senator, etc.) but just random people? Really?

If not deliberately instigating a riot on the other side of the world is "watching what you say," then yes. You should avoid instigating riots,


This entire thread would instigate a riot. Should we delete it before they find it?
2012-09-12 08:50:37 AM  
1 vote:

topcon: Silly Jesus: topcon: 99 percent of the people rioting probably don't even know what the fark Youtube is, or even have access to the internet. Someone connected who has a voice (i.e. a church leader) over there is whipping these poor, uneducated golems into a frenzy and making them think "this movie I'm telling you about is really popular with all Americans, and this is what they all believe."

The leaders and dictators of these countries don't want the unwashed masses educated because it doesn't serve their wackier-than-fundies religion to be so. I swear if we had the money to drop hundreds of thousands of solar powered, hand crank, computers with satellite internet onto poor areas, we might have a chance of getting these savages to change. Of course, the government would try to destroy them with the penalty of death if you keep them, but some would stick around and maybe forment some new ideas.

The majority of the 9/11 hijackers were college educated and middle to upper class. Try again.

Good thing I wasn't talking about 9/11 hijackers.


Was just pointing out that you don't have to be uneducated and naive of the ways of the world in order to believe in the nonsense that they are protesting over. The folks who leave that godforsaken place and get a Western education still believe that bullshiat.
2012-09-12 08:49:54 AM  
1 vote:
Marine security force is on its way. I'd prefer a tactical nuke, but I guess that'll do.
2012-09-12 08:43:02 AM  
1 vote:

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Nem Wan: 1. Right wing is losing election
2. Right winger writes inflammatory screed that sparks a foreign crisis that makes the U.S. look helpless
3. Right wing wins election
4. Oppress liberals until Rapture occurs

You're seeing a whole team of shrinks, aren't you?


It is just one, but he imagines it to be a whole team.
2012-09-12 08:42:04 AM  
1 vote:

intelligent comment below: A small group of radical Islamist's do something stupid = typical of all Islam

A small group of radical Christians do something stupid = isolated incidents


Why don't you go through the thread and cound how many peopel brought up the Pastor and tried to put some of the blame on him. You ever recall that when it comes to christian violence?

How about you find me a poll showing widespread support those "stupid actions" by christians.

Or you could just biatch about double standards while demonstrating your own.
2012-09-12 08:38:23 AM  
1 vote:

Nem Wan: 1. Right wing is losing election
2. Right winger writes inflammatory screed that sparks a foreign crisis that makes the U.S. look helpless
3. Right wing wins election
4. Oppress liberals until Rapture occurs


You're seeing a whole team of shrinks, aren't you?
2012-09-12 08:10:05 AM  
1 vote:

Purdue_Pete: Have we tried a direct mail piece to each Libyan? Maybe just a quaint postcard with this photo maybe? You know describing how it all works in a time of extreme conflict?

[www.greatdreams.com image 679x340]


Sorry, that level of shock and awe just hasn't gotten the job done.
This would get their attention, and given the long history with these @$*holes, I'm not opposed to it:

cache.blippitt.com
2012-09-12 08:04:51 AM  
1 vote:
Not to worry, I'm sure Fartbongo has sent them a strongly worded letter voicing our displeasure with their murdering shenannigans. Strongly Worded.
2012-09-12 07:38:38 AM  
1 vote:
Have we tried a direct mail piece to each Libyan? Maybe just a quaint postcard with this photo maybe? You know describing how it all works in a time of extreme conflict?

www.greatdreams.com
2012-09-12 06:59:44 AM  
1 vote:
All the people blaming that idiot pastor and saying we should stop him or just blame him are cowards with no real respect for freedom of speech.
2012-09-12 06:55:42 AM  
1 vote:
4 Americans killed, including the ambassador. Goddamn savages, all of them.
2012-09-12 06:52:33 AM  
1 vote:
18 months ago: "save us America"

12 months ago: "thank you America, we will now become a peaceful society and care about human rights"

yesterday: "DEATH TO AMERICA FOR A DUTCH MOVIE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!"

farking ingrates. we should have left Ghadaffi in charge
2012-09-12 06:50:12 AM  
1 vote:
2012-09-12 06:34:54 AM  
1 vote:
RIP Vile Rat, although i did not know you...seems like allot did, and you were a good guy. I hope you get some kind of justice.

/raises a glass
2012-09-12 06:09:14 AM  
1 vote:
Glad to know all that Smart Diplomacy has been helping the world love America.

0.tqn.com
2012-09-12 05:05:54 AM  
1 vote:
Egyptian protesters condemned what they said was the humiliation of the Prophet of Islam under the pretext of freedom of speech.

Surely it is the rioters that are humiliating the "prophet of Islam" by their behavior, much more than the original film that sparked it?
2012-09-12 04:41:41 AM  
1 vote:
Hey, don't worry. Obama's support of the Muslim Brotherhood will make it all better.
2012-09-12 04:26:17 AM  
1 vote:

Antidamascus: I play Eve Online and this was just sent out over our Jabber server

"directorbot[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]teelfnoog[* image 7x13]com/directorbot: My people, I have greivous news. Vile Rat has been confirmed to be KIA in Benghazi; his family has been informed and the news is likely to break out on the wire services soon. Needless to say, we are in shock, have no words, and have nothing but sympathy for his family and children. I have known Vile Rat since 2006, he was one of the oldest of old-guard goons and one of the best and most effective diplomats this game has ever seen.

His family are in our thoughts and prayers.

*** This was a broadcast from the_mittani to all-all, replies are not monitored ***"

That just completely sucks.


I just heard myself... I knew Vile Rat. Sad now.
2012-09-12 04:25:46 AM  
1 vote:
Rest in peace, Vile Rat. You died doing good for our country and I'll remember the good times from Eve.
2012-09-12 04:09:01 AM  
1 vote:

Koalacaust: The US's response to these events is sickeningly craven:

The U.S. Embassy said that it "condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims -- as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions."
"Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy," the statement said. "We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others."

Way to stick up for free speech guys.


Apologizing for America?? In my Obama administration??
2012-09-12 03:58:38 AM  
1 vote:

Comsamvimes: Antidamascus: I play Eve Online and this was just sent out over our Jabber server

"directorbot[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]teelfnoog[* image 7x13]com/directorbot: My people, I have greivous news. Vile Rat has been confirmed to be KIA in Benghazi; his family has been informed and the news is likely to break out on the wire services soon. Needless to say, we are in shock, have no words, and have nothing but sympathy for his family and children. I have known Vile Rat since 2006, he was one of the oldest of old-guard goons and one of the best and most effective diplomats this game has ever seen.

His family are in our thoughts and prayers.

*** This was a broadcast from the_mittani to all-all, replies are not monitored ***"

That just completely sucks.

I'm in TEST and just saw this via our forums. Wow, I'm kinda crying now. I never even met or talked to him, but putting a face (or name) to it really makes it hit home. This post makes me ;_; That he was talking on Jabber right before it happened seems so weird. 

This really does suck.


Link ?
2012-09-12 03:26:53 AM  
1 vote:

Antidamascus: I play Eve Online and this was just sent out over our Jabber server

"directorbot[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]teelfnoog[* image 7x13]com/directorbot: My people, I have greivous news. Vile Rat has been confirmed to be KIA in Benghazi; his family has been informed and the news is likely to break out on the wire services soon. Needless to say, we are in shock, have no words, and have nothing but sympathy for his family and children. I have known Vile Rat since 2006, he was one of the oldest of old-guard goons and one of the best and most effective diplomats this game has ever seen.

His family are in our thoughts and prayers.

*** This was a broadcast from the_mittani to all-all, replies are not monitored ***"

That just completely sucks.


Holy shiat. The guy was a Something Awful forums moderator. I remember seeing him around when lurking there. This is just farking awful.
2012-09-12 03:26:11 AM  
1 vote:
But it's ok when they themselves burn korans?
This film won't be presented thanks to muslim outrage. By which of course I mean threats of violence.

zombietime.com
2012-09-12 03:09:19 AM  
1 vote:
it is not Buddhist, Hindu, Catholic, Protestant, Confucians, that are the problem. Globally.
2012-09-12 03:05:29 AM  
1 vote:

What_Would_Jimi_Do: Brutal Momentum Loss: Guess what, my friends are Buddhist, Hindu, Muslim, Catholic, Protestant, Confucians, FFS there's even a 7th day advantist in the lot and we do meet, and we talk, and we have fun, and we never went to war against one another!

yeah, i say one of your group hate some one in the group. period


We all equally hate each other independently of our background, education or philosophy. Makes for fun parties.
2012-09-12 02:45:49 AM  
1 vote:

It's not their fault.

It's

[_] Their religion
[_] Their convictions
[_] Their leader
[_] Their economy
[_] Their past
[_] Just too sad boohoo

Check one, but NEVER, EVER EVER blame it on the person.
Because we all know humans are good at heart.



Sick.

Sick of all the farkheads unable to open their eyes and see a bunch of unwashed, uneducated, fish-brained, power-hungry cavemen when they are in plain sight, sitting in their couch, drinking their beers and fondling their wives.
Sick of people always finding excuses.

"If they were civilized, they wouldn't react like that to something someone saidHUUUURRR HUUUUUUR"

Guess what, Sherlock, an angry dog is an angry dog, and if you go tickle his balls don't go with your right hand: its gonna take month to learn to write with the left one.

"But we can't say people are angry dogs that would be mean and not very politically correHHUUUUUR HUUUUUUR"

Because bashing on a whole religion is SO tolerant, right? But maybe there's a point here: since Humankind is so generous and benevolent, there should be something that make people go bad, right? Another excuse, right?
So go ahead, it's usually videogamesrockmusicdrugsalcoholbookstelevisionglobalwarmingobamabushsa ddamosama, but today their common denominator is religion, so their excuse is religion. CLEVER! GENIUS!

"But this is freedom of speech, we need to support people who say terrible things about rabid retards abroad, even if we don't agree with it we need to fight for the right to saHUUUUUUUR HUUUUUUUUUR"

Yeah! That's it and be humble! Freedom of speech is humility right? And expecting overexcited, overcompensating asshats in a war-ravaged country miles and miles away from yours to have the exact same laws and standards as yours, that's also humble right?

Guess what, my friends are Buddhist, Hindu, Muslim, Catholic, Protestant, Confucians, FFS there's even a 7th day advantist in the lot and we do meet, and we talk, and we have fun, and we never went to war against one another!
That's IS possible!
You know why?
Because each one of us, each and every single one of us believe in PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY, and if one of us is being an asshat, it's their OWN PROBLEM, we don't go and march against society, God or Saturday Night Traffic, we go marching against the asshole!

But that's ok. Keep on talking against everything but the perpetrators, instigators, agitators, keep finding excuses for everything, until now it's been working reaaaaaally well, no reason to stop.

Damn.
2012-09-12 02:02:49 AM  
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Bhasayate: You need to go to the school where they teach you to read good and stuff =p


I'll take that to mean "I have no cogent response so I'll just resort to childish insults."

A shame. You actually seemed pretty intelligent.
2012-09-12 01:42:07 AM  
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All the comments, and perhaps I missed it, but I can't believe not a single person has commented on how freaking terrible the film trailer is. Holy crap, it needs a MST3K soundtrack, stat!

"The trailer was uploaded to YouTube by Sam Bacile, whom The Wall Street Journal Web site identified as a 52-year old Israeli-American real estate developer in California. He told the Web site he had raised $5 million from 100 Jewish donors to make the film. "Islam is a cancer," Mr. Bacile was quoted as saying.

You idiots paid 5 million dollars for this? Link Wow. Just wow.

There is a Pastor Terry Jones connection. Apparently he promoted the film today, in an attention-whoring statement:

" The video gained international attention when a Florida pastor began promoting it along with his own proclamation of Sept. 11 as "International Judge Muhammad Day."
In a statement on Tuesday, the pastor, Terry Jones of Gainesville, Fla., called the film "an American production, not designed to attack Muslims but to show the destructive ideology of Islam" and said it "further reveals in a satirical fashion the life of Muhammad."


Apparently there's some other Coptic Christian idiot named Morris Sadek who was involved , though he's not mentioned in that article.

Link

I realize these people have the right to make shiatty movies insulting Mohammed, but it was pretty stupid of them to be promoting this crap on Sept 11, with all the current events in the ME and the fact that we are still in Afghanistan. The mobs who killed the State Dept. worker are far worse, but these asshats did this to intentionally provoke and I hope they're ok that got someone killed for that execrable film.
2012-09-12 01:36:06 AM  
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Gyrfalcon: What_Would_Jimi_Do: Gyrfalcon: How shocking is it that people across the Middle East hate America and see us as the source of all their problems.

How shocking indeed.

please elaborate? how are we the source of all their problems?

I didn't say we were. I said they see us as such.

Indeed, how shocking.


okay, but what is ironic they are the source of our problems.


want to end this shiat, bomb the hajj.
2012-09-12 01:24:18 AM  
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Gyrfalcon: How shocking is it that people across the Middle East hate America and see us as the source of all their problems.

How shocking indeed.


please elaborate? how are we the source of all their problems?
2012-09-12 01:20:18 AM  
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they danced and sang as planes hit the twin towers and are pissed at some movie? fark them
2012-09-12 01:17:15 AM  
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PsyLord: Chevello: Is it Storm the Embassy Day and I didn't get the memo AGAIN?

This. WTF. Do we need to do something to strengthen our embassies in other countries? Like a moat with piranha or something?


Shooting a few of the bastards might work. Once you cross the line from peaceful protest to a violent raid on an American embassy, your ass should be grass.
2012-09-12 01:16:08 AM  
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Bhasayate: 1st, "Hinduism" is a Western construct.

2nd, in "Hindu" terms, Buddhism is a Heterodox Darshana, as it does not accept the authority of the Vedas.

3rd, none of the 'gods' in Buddhism are exempt from conditioned existence; none of the 'divine beings' are eternal, unchangeable, all-powerful, etc. In a word, all are finite. Therefore, there are no gods in Buddhism, let alone a bunch of them.

4th Buddhists venerate higher beings, gods, Bodhisattva, etc, but they don't worship them: rather like Catholics venerate saints without worshiping them.


1. Not really, no, though I grant you some people like to think so. Not that it matters anyway, since I'm talking about Buddhism, not Hinduism.

2. Hinduism and Buddhism are different religions, so it doesn't matter what Hindus think of Buddhism any more than it matters what Jews think of Scientology. So in "Hindu" terms, Buddhism can be a FLÜGGÅƎNK∂€ČHIŒβØL∫ÊN for all it would matter.

2a. ... as Christianity does not accept the authority of Dianetics, or Islam accepts the authority of the Tao Te Ching.

3. *shrug* You're splitting hairs. Buddhism has divine beings. If you want to argue that they aren't gods because they aren't eternal, fine. Devas live thousands (or millions or billions) of years and have godlike powers, but they aren't truly gods, ok.

4. Splitting hairs again, but if you prefer "venerate and pray to" over "worship," fine.

In short, Buddhism is another religion like any other, not really any better or worse than Shintoism or Judaism. It's fine; it's great; I respect it. But it is a constant source of bemusement for me why Farkers want to make it out to be something unique.
2012-09-12 12:30:56 AM  
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make me some tea: Thanks, Pastor Terry!


I found the formula.... Pick somebody we don't like, a random point in time after that, then blame that person for actions of people with hundreds of years of violent behavior which is just really their culture.

Bush, Florida voting, 9/11
Jones, threatened quran burning, embassy stormings

It is almost a drinking game.
2012-09-12 12:28:54 AM  
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Bhasayate: 4th Buddhists venerate higher beings, gods, Bodhisattva, etc, but they don't worship them: rather like Catholics venerate saints without worshiping them.


i tell you what! if the middle east were full of Buddhists instead of nutfark crazy homicidal Islamic jihadist asswipes, the world would be a noticeably better place.
2012-09-12 12:25:06 AM  
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Sons of biatches. I hear Assad is in the market for more munitions.
2012-09-12 12:23:39 AM  
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ciberido: frunjer: I wouldn't classify Buddhism as a religion. It is more a philosophy. Buddha was a teacher, not a deity. It is a part of Hinduism which is basically polytheistic. Not really sure which type of Buddhism Vietnamese follow, but it is certainly not like montheistic holier-than-thou type religions.

You are shocking ignorant of Buddhism and should go read a book or something.

If you're too busy (or lazy) to do that, then just Google "Tara" and "Buddhism" and spend five minutes reading.

Short answer: Buddhism absolutely is a religion.


Since shiat just got real ...

1st, "Hinduism" is a Western construct.

2nd, in "Hindu" terms, Buddhism is a Heterodox Darshana, as it does not accept the authority of the Vedas.

3rd, none of the 'gods' in Buddhism are exempt from conditioned existence; none of the 'divine beings' are eternal, unchangeable, all-powerful, etc. In a word, all are finite. Therefore, there are no gods in Buddhism, let alone a bunch of them.

4th Buddhists venerate higher beings, gods, Bodhisattva, etc, but they don't worship them: rather like Catholics venerate saints without worshiping them.
2012-09-12 12:22:07 AM  
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oh shiat....wait a min
2012-09-12 12:20:40 AM  
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tenpoundsofcheese: You do realize that this is fark, a site that is about mocking news, right? right??


oh shiat I am so glad you clarified that.... i thought the mooslims were gonna take me seriously and kill me and my famiy, first child and my puppy. Bastard mooslims.
2012-09-12 12:15:57 AM  
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Bhasayate: Hilary Clinton says:

"I condemn in the strongest terms the attack on our mission in Benghazi today,"


I think the "strongest terms" are those that are written on the side of a cruise missile, not those written in a sharply worded letter.
2012-09-12 12:13:13 AM  
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ciberido: tenpoundsofcheese: 0bama got the peace prize and all he can do is nothing except give campaign speeches about his incomplete job?

You do realize that every time you spell "Obama" as "0bama," you make yourself look that much more idiotic, right?


You do realize that this is fark, a site that is about mocking news, right? right??
You do realize that I don't care about what you think, right? right??
2012-09-12 12:12:06 AM  
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SandMann: They must have some pretty harsh bath salts in the Islamic world.


Yeah, it's called Jihad.
2012-09-11 11:53:56 PM  
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2012-09-11 11:48:48 PM  
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Gooseycheeks: If someone wants to draw a picture of Allah they should be able to do so without the threat of violence.


No one would even recognize it. "Allah" is just a title for God. Its a contraction of the title "Al-Ilah" which means "The Lord" or "The Sovereign." The language of God in the Quran shifts constantly--its impossible to pin down any material qualities. It would be an impossible drawing.

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b5/Miraj_by_Sul t an_Muhammad.jpg/405px-Miraj_by_Sultan_Muhammad.jpg

And there are already many famous paintings and pictures of the Prophet Muhammad. Even though the media keeps saying it, that's not really the problem.
2012-09-11 11:32:27 PM  
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chiett: So when does Obama begin the official apology tour ?


did you see the State Department response? Something about we need to be more respectful of other religions.
2012-09-11 11:31:34 PM  
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Narcissistic fromunda stain: Evolution is entirely in keeping with the Islamic faith. Allah is the Nourisher Unto Perfection. Life changes according to the whims of Allah's world, for He is the Best Knower.


I could give allah something to nourish....
2012-09-11 11:31:02 PM  
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dr_blasto: Or what about half the comments on fark whenever some Christian topic comes up?

What, you're jealous now that when people pick on you that the society you live in has enough cohesion to make going apeshiat-bomby-mcshootalot an unacceptable answer? Mad that people pick on Christians all the time yet Muslims are free to get all terrorist-mcfistbump?


No not jealous.
Just surprised (or maybe not) how farkers here whine about hate speech...and then show up with hate speech in a thread about Christians.
2012-09-11 11:28:37 PM  
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So when does Obama begin the official apology tour ?
2012-09-11 11:21:33 PM  
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Narcissistic fromunda stain: Koalacaust: Narcissistic fromunda stain: This is precisely what you kaffir deserve. You corrupt the Injil of Isa bin Maryam--blessings and peace be upon him--and turn on the needy among you. You promote a polytheist as a leader of the peoples. You reach out with your satellites and cables to spread your filth among the children of Allah. And you know nothing of the Qur'an you demonize, which is unknowable to those who do not speak the tongue of the Prophet, blessings and peace be upon him. Without his guidance--there is no doubt in it--you are lost, wallowing in violence and depravity with your soulless machines of death.

Democracy takes many forms, for Allah is the nourisher unto perfection. You condemn us for our lack of it, when it was crushed from us by perfidious Albion and the French. We looked upon you as a savior, and you turned on us like Judas. Now you will soon face the same fate: forced to submit to death as the rightful prophets--peace be upon them--ascend into heaven, leaving the kaffir to die in their place.

Allāhū akhbar. lā ʾilāha ʾillà l-Lāh, Muḥammadur rasūlu l-Lāh.

لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول ال

8/10

8:10 (Surat Al-'Anfal)

'And Allah made it not but good tidings and so that your hearts would be assured thereby. And victory is not but from Allah . Indeed, Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise.'

You do not embrace Allah. Victory and supremacy will never truly enter into your heart until you hear the call of the Prophet, blessings and peace be upon him.


Yeah - but where is the God of tits and wine?
2012-09-11 11:14:11 PM  
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ha-ha-guy: Dear Middle East,
So yeah, we have our nutcases and well a lot of them do and say offensive things. Things that end up going global since unlike your shiatty little third world hellhole pretty much everyone over here has a smart phone with a video camera and easy access to uncensored TCP/IP.

Now you may have just noticed I insulted your country. Why you ask? Because you really are a shiatstain third world hellhole filled with people who kill diplomats over 90 minutes worth of .mp4 encoded footage. It doesn't say nice things about you. What it really says is that the people who installed Saddam and those of his ilk might have actually had a farking clue. I don't recall many embassies getting stormed in Baathist Iraq. That is says that if an Arab Spring does happen in Saudi Arabia, maybe it is actually in our best interests to back the House of Saud. Maybe we do want a military dictatorship in Egypt.

You see where this is going right? When you're going to storm multiple embassies on the anniversary of 9/11 and kill Americans, it tells us we don't want you enfranchised. We actually might want to rethink the idea of you having political power, a say in how your country is run, and all that. Maybe we do need to install puppet leadership and have an American trained army make the streets run red with your blood.

Because at the end of the day, if the second item on your agenda of social empowered is "fark with America", then we have every reason out there to want to fark with your agenda and make sure your skulls are the ones that get cracked,

Oh and for farks sake, the Dutch are the ones making the movie. Get a clue.

-Love,
At Least Part of America


^^^^^SO MUCH THIS^^^^^
2012-09-11 11:13:21 PM  
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Narcissistic fromunda stain: This is precisely what you kaffir deserve. You corrupt the Injil of Isa bin Maryam--blessings and peace be upon him--and turn on the needy among you. You promote a polytheist as a leader of the peoples. You reach out with your satellites and cables to spread your filth among the children of Allah. And you know nothing of the Qur'an you demonize, which is unknowable to those who do not speak the tongue of the Prophet, blessings and peace be upon him. Without his guidance--there is no doubt in it--you are lost, wallowing in violence and depravity with your soulless machines of death.

Democracy takes many forms, for Allah is the nourisher unto perfection. You condemn us for our lack of itcomplete love affair with killing, when it was crushed from us by perfidious Albion and the French. We looked upon you as a savior, and you turned on us like Judas. Now you will soon face the same fate: forced to submit to death as the rightful prophets--peace be upon them--ascend into heaven, leaving the kaffir to die in their place.

Allāhū akhbar. lā ʾilāha ʾillà l-Lāh, Muḥammadur rasūlu l-Lāh.

لا

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2012-09-11 11:10:45 PM  
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EatTheWorld: jso2897: Sure - but there is nothing we can do to change those people - they have always been like that, and always will be. We can get the hell away from them and let them evolve into humans, if they can - or we can drop all the noble crap, kill them ALL, and take their stuff. Being a civilized man, I think we would be better to do the former - but we will never "win" any kind of victory in that festering sinkhole of history. Let the filthy goatherds murder and torture each other. I don't care.

The world just is not that big anymore. Either they come along with the rest of civilized humanity, or we ship them to Antarctica, or heaven. Which ever comes first.


Yeah, because imperialism is working out so well, lately. Keep f**kin' that chicken.
2012-09-11 11:10:42 PM  
1 vote:

Narcissistic fromunda stain: This is precisely what you kaffir deserve. You corrupt the Injil of Isa bin Maryam--blessings and peace be upon him--and turn on the needy among you. You promote a polytheist as a leader of the peoples. You reach out with your satellites and cables to spread your filth among the children of Allah. And you know nothing of the Qur'an you demonize, which is unknowable to those who do not speak the tongue of the Prophet, blessings and peace be upon him. Without his guidance--there is no doubt in it--you are lost, wallowing in violence and depravity with your soulless machines of death.

Democracy takes many forms, for Allah is the nourisher unto perfection. You condemn us for our lack of it, when it was crushed from us by perfidious Albion and the French. We looked upon you as a savior, and you turned on us like Judas. Now you will soon face the same fate: forced to submit to death as the rightful prophets--peace be upon them--ascend into heaven, leaving the kaffir to die in their place.

Allāhū akhbar. lā ʾilāha ʾillà l-Lāh, Muḥammadur rasūlu l-Lāh.

لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول ال


8/10
2012-09-11 11:10:37 PM  
1 vote:

jso2897: Marine1: vygramul: tenpoundsofcheese: If that film got a person killed and an embassy stormed and an apology from 0bama it is surprising that True Lies didn't start ww3

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We're fighting individuals. We're appeasing a culture.

We're appeasing them by saying "sorry about the film" and calling it an abuse of free speech. That's something conservative Muslims in the Middle East don't seem to get... they've done plenty to offend others, but when a film criticizing their beliefs comes out, all hell breaks loose. These incidents could have been used as a chance to point this hypocrisy out and call on their culture to practice what they preach. Instead, we said, "Our bad, now stop tearing up our embassies, oh angry mob".

And when I say they've done plenty to offend others, I don't just mean the West. Muslims in Egypt and elsewhere have done a wonderful job of pissing all over the religious/irreligious minorities in their countries... Christians can't repair churches without a permit (which are insanely hard to get), those with alternate views of the Koran are seen as blasphemers, atheism has absolutely no chance of being discussed publicly... it's a freakin' mess.

Sure - but there is nothing we can do to change those people - they have always been like that, and always will be. We can get the hell away from them and let them evolve into humans, if they can - or we can drop all the noble crap, kill them ALL, and take their stuff. Being a civilized man, I think we would be better to do the former - but we will never "win" any kind of victory in that festering sinkhole of history. Let the filthy goatherds murder and torture each other. I don't care.


You know, a few years ago, I would have agreed. Then the Arab Spring happened.

There are a few people over there interested in reform. Not a lot, but a few, and some of them are in the right places. I'd like to have a diplomatic corps that can talk with these individuals and help if need be. Right now, it's the best chance we've got. However, we can't just let them overrun the embassies like we did today.

The fact is, if we left the Middle East today, diplomats and all, nothing would change on the part of the likes of the protesters and extremists. They'd still be mad and would see it as a chance to hit us where we sit. It wouldn't be a way to get away from our problems there.
2012-09-11 11:09:37 PM  
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Meh. Idiots. Pastor Terry doesn't speak for the United States you morons, and he has a right to speak like a moron under our laws. Have a problem with his film? Don't farking watch it, and don't farking kill people.

Also, to this:

There should be "civilized demonstrations of the Egyptian people's displeasure with this film," the Brotherhood spokesman said, according to the Web site. "Any nonpeaceful activity will be exploited by those who hate Islam to defame the image of Egypt and Muslims."


You idiots, it isn't like Terry is sponsored by the US. We think he's an intolerant dick, most of us, but now we think you're intolerant dicks too. Least Terry never farking killed anyone assholes.
2012-09-11 11:05:24 PM  
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jso2897: Sure - but there is nothing we can do to change those people - they have always been like that, and always will be. We can get the hell away from them and let them evolve into humans, if they can - or we can drop all the noble crap, kill them ALL, and take their stuff. Being a civilized man, I think we would be better to do the former - but we will never "win" any kind of victory in that festering sinkhole of history. Let the filthy goatherds murder and torture each other. I don't care.


The world just is not that big anymore. Either they come along with the rest of civilized humanity, or we ship them to Antarctica, or heaven. Which ever comes first.
2012-09-11 11:00:08 PM  
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Stop blaming the movie. If you think these people are really rioting because of some dumb movie then you are naive. The movie is just an excuse. These people have been foaming at the mouth, waiting for an excuse, any excuse to storm and destroy anything American. In the end, I am betting most of these people really couldn't give a rat's arse about Allah or the Prophet. They just want to destroy anything that belongs to what they see is the most powerful nation. If the UK had more power than the US, these people would be looking for excuses to raid and destroy anything UK. It's a power play. It's also one of the reasons why they won't dare touch anything Russian, despite the fact that Russia is also a powerful nation. These "protesters" know that America will try to go the diplomatic route. The US and her people really don't want another war on top of the wars it already has going. Russia, on the other hand, couldn't give a flip. They would sooner carpet bomb the whole place and would sleep like a baby at night.
2012-09-11 10:57:20 PM  
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Marine1: We're appeasing them by saying "sorry about the film" and calling it an abuse of free speech. That's something conservative Muslims in the Middle East don't seem to get... they've done plenty to offend others, but when a film criticizing their beliefs comes out, all hell breaks loose. These incidents could have been used as a chance to point this hypocrisy out and call on their culture to practice what they preach. Instead, we said, "Our bad, now stop tearing up our embassies, oh angry mob".


i just wanted to quote you again. Thank you SIR!
2012-09-11 10:57:03 PM  
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Gooseycheeks: dr_blasto: tenpoundsofcheese: Koalacaust: madgonad: No, films like this are just hate speech. Pornography which serves no civil purpose in society. The goal of the film is not to inform or discuss, it is too inflame. The creator of this film is Jewish and from California and the promoter is an anti-Muslim Christian evangelical. Here is the video - you be the judge.

Yea... that's admittedly pretty bad. Not bad as in overly offensive or hate speech material, but bad as in poor satire. I still have no problem with it existing. Would you consider a film like this lampooning the life of Jesus or the Buddha to be hate speech?

Or what about half the comments on fark whenever some Christian topic comes up?

What, you're jealous now that when people pick on you that the society you live in has enough cohesion to make going apeshiat-bomby-mcshootalot an unacceptable answer? Mad that people pick on Christians all the time yet Muslims are free to get all terrorist-mcfistbump?

That film sounds stupid. Whomever made should be embarrassed and should feel bad for giving that to the world to see.

The farkers who think some retard's movie is worth attacking and killing over, well, they went over the line and should get theirs. And we should probably tell whatever they have for a government to produce the ring leaders or we're pulling our diplomatic ties, cash and guns out of their region.

I really don't think we should encourage violence by capitulating to their demands every time they get offended and want to throw a fit. If someone wants to draw a picture of Allah they should be able to do so without the threat of violence.


We shouldn't play whatever game is afoot in whatever hellhole just because we feel like we can. I'm tired of having to hear about this crap and, like jso2897, think it is time to tell the lot to fark off.
2012-09-11 10:53:58 PM  
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jso2897: Marine1: jso2897: Marine1: djkutch: Marine1: WhyteRaven74: Marine1: We're in the business of appeasement now.

Would you prefer we were still in the business of overthrowing governments to install leaders we approved of and propping up dictators simply for some nebulous goals while they kill their own citizens? Cause that never had any negative consequences...I mean just look at Iraq and Iran...on second thought...

No. I'd rather we said the following (copypasta from my earlier post in this thread):

"The right to free speech is a cornerstone of democracy in all societies and is to be respected by all peoples. With this in mind, the United States government would like to remind the protesters that it was in no way affiliated with the production, distribution, or conception of the offending materials. The government of the United States would also like to state that it has sovereignty over all consulates and embassies and that the US Marines stationed in these locations have been authorized to use deadly force to defend the facilities."

No threat of invasion, no ass-kissing, just plain statement of facts. Someone has now died in these embassy attacks, and any further protests near or on the grounds of American embassies and consulates need to be seen as direct threats to those on the premises.

McCain tomorrow. You know it's true:
"Why isn't Obama invading?"

or

"Why is Obama invading?"

That doesn't have to be the solution. Just tell them what I said. A plain statement of truths. We don't want to hurt them, but if they storm another embassy, we will, because we're not fools who think that dying is some sort of victory that requires deep thought to comprehend. We only need to speak softly and carry a big stick at those embassies... tell the truth, and back it up with some US Marines if need be.

Or we could just close our embassies in these shiatholes, pull our aid, and keep our blood and treasure at home, where it belongs. F**k the middle east.

I'd rather we hol ...


If we don't deal with them, they come here to fark up our shiat. They say "death to the infidels" and kill innocent men, women, and children. We saw it eleven years ago today. We're in a global society... you can't just pack up your shiat and leave. That may have worked 75 years ago... no longer.
2012-09-11 10:50:19 PM  
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dr_blasto: tenpoundsofcheese: Koalacaust: madgonad: No, films like this are just hate speech. Pornography which serves no civil purpose in society. The goal of the film is not to inform or discuss, it is too inflame. The creator of this film is Jewish and from California and the promoter is an anti-Muslim Christian evangelical. Here is the video - you be the judge.

Yea... that's admittedly pretty bad. Not bad as in overly offensive or hate speech material, but bad as in poor satire. I still have no problem with it existing. Would you consider a film like this lampooning the life of Jesus or the Buddha to be hate speech?

Or what about half the comments on fark whenever some Christian topic comes up?

What, you're jealous now that when people pick on you that the society you live in has enough cohesion to make going apeshiat-bomby-mcshootalot an unacceptable answer? Mad that people pick on Christians all the time yet Muslims are free to get all terrorist-mcfistbump?

That film sounds stupid. Whomever made should be embarrassed and should feel bad for giving that to the world to see.

The farkers who think some retard's movie is worth attacking and killing over, well, they went over the line and should get theirs. And we should probably tell whatever they have for a government to produce the ring leaders or we're pulling our diplomatic ties, cash and guns out of their region.


I really don't think we should encourage violence by capitulating to their demands every time they get offended and want to throw a fit. If someone wants to draw a picture of Allah they should be able to do so without the threat of violence.
2012-09-11 10:48:04 PM  
1 vote:

EatTheWorld: we are trying to be friends. We cannot start a war over an embassy.


and what a testament to us it is I might add. Who else has so many embassies? We try to befriend the world. We GIVE and GIVE and GIVE and GIVE. We are the first outsiders there when Egpyt has an earthquake, or anyone else. We defend freedom and have spread it around the world since our conception. This nation of the USA is responsible for advancing the human race farther than it could have ever gone stuck in the life of a middle easterner. Or England. or any other monarchy, dictatorship, commune, or socialist dream. Free people made this nation, and shaped the world for the better.

The arab spring looked like an action of free people, only if you forget the oppressive boot of radical Mohammed damned Islam. There is no restriction on religion from goverment over there. Now what would we be like given the same charter? I'd say we wouldn't exist past the Mississippi valley because NO ONE WOULD HAVE COME HERE. We are enlightened at least to the point to understand the invisible man in the sky, doesn't matter quite as much as the state church would have you believe. They seem to be not so enlightened over there.
2012-09-11 10:47:23 PM  
1 vote:
We really should not worry about our diplomats in Egypt.

Obama will lead them into the desert, part the Red Sea, and take them to the promised land.
2012-09-11 10:47:03 PM  
1 vote:

WhyteRaven74: dr_blasto: high illiteracy

Currently literacy in Libya is in the mid 80s, around 85 or 86%. One of the things Qaddafi committed himself to was getting rid of illiteracy, among men and women. And Libya has been a secular state for quite some time now.


Well, until last year. LIbya isn't so much a state as a loose association.
2012-09-11 10:46:56 PM  
1 vote:

madgonad: clowncar on fire: So we have Jews, expatriate Californian coptics, and anti-muslim wingnut pastors- anyone else want to give the wheel a spin? No conspiratists want to suggest that the muslims released this film themselves (the ends justify the means after all) just to work the crowd up in time for the tenth anniversary of 9-11? Any takers at all?

11th. And I am sure there are plenty more dipshiats in America looking for their 15 minutes of fame. If only the media would ignore them....


11th? You mean I van Winkled my way through the 10th Anniversary 9-11 Gala and Fish Fry? Oh well! Off to Wally-mart to exploit those liberal returns policies so I can get back some of the money I spent purchasing that George two piece.
2012-09-11 10:41:57 PM  
1 vote:

dr_blasto: high illiteracy


Currently literacy in Libya is in the mid 80s, around 85 or 86%. One of the things Qaddafi committed himself to was getting rid of illiteracy, among men and women. And Libya has been a secular state for quite some time now.
2012-09-11 10:37:44 PM  
1 vote:

jso2897: Marine1: djkutch: Marine1: WhyteRaven74: Marine1: We're in the business of appeasement now.

Would you prefer we were still in the business of overthrowing governments to install leaders we approved of and propping up dictators simply for some nebulous goals while they kill their own citizens? Cause that never had any negative consequences...I mean just look at Iraq and Iran...on second thought...

No. I'd rather we said the following (copypasta from my earlier post in this thread):

"The right to free speech is a cornerstone of democracy in all societies and is to be respected by all peoples. With this in mind, the United States government would like to remind the protesters that it was in no way affiliated with the production, distribution, or conception of the offending materials. The government of the United States would also like to state that it has sovereignty over all consulates and embassies and that the US Marines stationed in these locations have been authorized to use deadly force to defend the facilities."

No threat of invasion, no ass-kissing, just plain statement of facts. Someone has now died in these embassy attacks, and any further protests near or on the grounds of American embassies and consulates need to be seen as direct threats to those on the premises.

McCain tomorrow. You know it's true:
"Why isn't Obama invading?"

or

"Why is Obama invading?"

That doesn't have to be the solution. Just tell them what I said. A plain statement of truths. We don't want to hurt them, but if they storm another embassy, we will, because we're not fools who think that dying is some sort of victory that requires deep thought to comprehend. We only need to speak softly and carry a big stick at those embassies... tell the truth, and back it up with some US Marines if need be.

Or we could just close our embassies in these shiatholes, pull our aid, and keep our blood and treasure at home, where it belongs. F**k the middle east.


I'd rather we hold out in the hope that at least some reasonable person rises up there and we could talk to him. That'd be wonderful and a real chance to move forward.
2012-09-11 10:35:55 PM  
1 vote:

tenpoundsofcheese: If that film got a person killed and an embassy stormed and an apology from 0bama it is surprising that True Lies didn't start ww3


www.bitlogic.com
2012-09-11 10:35:50 PM  
1 vote:

Kit Fister: So, what's wrong if someone has faith in something greater than themselves? Why is it an object of scorn and ridicule if someone has faith in a being greater than themselves? I believe in what we know of the universe scientifically, but I still believe in god and things science has yet to touch or prove.


Nothing. I think it is awesome and wish you the very best.

The problem is the people who decide to force their religious rules on the entire population. THAT, I have a problem with.
2012-09-11 10:35:47 PM  
1 vote:
Maybe they're angry because they didn't get to do enough of this:

italkfrank.files.wordpress.com

/Hope & Change
2012-09-11 10:35:28 PM  
1 vote:
If that film got a person killed and an embassy stormed and an apology from 0bama it is surprising that True Lies didn't start ww3
2012-09-11 10:31:51 PM  
1 vote:

Koalacaust: madgonad: No, films like this are just hate speech. Pornography which serves no civil purpose in society. The goal of the film is not to inform or discuss, it is too inflame. The creator of this film is Jewish and from California and the promoter is an anti-Muslim Christian evangelical. Here is the video - you be the judge.

Yea... that's admittedly pretty bad. Not bad as in overly offensive or hate speech material, but bad as in poor satire. I still have no problem with it existing. Would you consider a film like this lampooning the life of Jesus or the Buddha to be hate speech?


Or what about half the comments on fark whenever some Christian topic comes up?
2012-09-11 10:31:40 PM  
1 vote:
Economy in the shiatter
Muslims going wild
America neither feared or respected
Incompteance in the White House
And if you go back and listen to Carters 1980 DNC Acceptance Speech, you will see it sounds very much like Obama's

Obama is looking more and more like Jimmy Carter every day.

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2012-09-11 10:31:27 PM  
1 vote:

Maul555: Why dont we have a permanent contingent of heavily armed military personnel for each embassy in a volatile area? all these farkers should have been shot upon entering US soil...


we are trying to be friends. We cannot start a war over an embassy.
2012-09-11 10:31:25 PM  
1 vote:

Tyrone Slothrop: If you're willing to kill someone because they (or somebody) insulted your religion, it's probably not a very good religion.


Heaven forbid if they figure out how to sue...
2012-09-11 10:29:53 PM  
1 vote:

madgonad: Bhasayate: Again, I'm afraid we may be talking past each other here....

Probably. I understand that Buddhism is atheistic, but it is clearly a religion. I have attended Buddhist weddings and funerals. They still have the trappings of religion and the potential to inspire hate against others.


So, what's wrong if someone has faith in something greater than themselves? Why is it an object of scorn and ridicule if someone has faith in a being greater than themselves? I believe in what we know of the universe scientifically, but I still believe in god and things science has yet to touch or prove.
2012-09-11 10:25:31 PM  
1 vote:

dr_blasto: Take away the US' first-world systems and blanket us with poverty and illiteracy and I'd expect the population of snake-handler types to go way up.


absolutely. Give the people with power, government (whatever you may call it), the power to control your religion, and they control you. I think that is what makes America so special? amirite? I say fark the church everyday. All of them.

First world = US Constitution.
2012-09-11 10:24:10 PM  
1 vote:
What happened to you Libya? You used to be cool.

/nah jk
//you're just as backwards as you've always been
2012-09-11 10:22:55 PM  
1 vote:

madgonad: Koalacaust: At the very least, you seem to be claiming that the people who made this movie should have anticipated the violent reaction of Muslims (you actually imply that this was the desired reaction!) and thus should have never made the film in the first place. This is exactly like telling a rape victim that she shouldn't have dressed provocatively because she should have known that she was likely to get raped if she did. In fact, because she was dressing that way, she must have wanted it all along!

Free speech is free speech. I should be able to say what I want about someone's system of beliefs and not have to worry about being abducted or killed in the street because I "hurt someone's religious feelings", as the US government puts it.

No, films like this are just hate speech. Pornography which serves no civil purpose in society. The goal of the film is not to inform or discuss, it is too inflame. The creator of this film is Jewish and from California and the promoter is an anti-Muslim Christian evangelical. Here is the video - you be the judge.

The press has so far blamed the video on Morris Sadek, an Egyptian-born Christian who lives in the U.S. and who is known for his anti-Islam views, the AP reported. Morris posted the video on his Facebook page and promoted it on his personal website.

- By NBC News and news services

So we have Jews, expatriate Californian coptics, and anti-muslim wingnut pastors- anyone else want to give the wheel a spin? No conspiratists want to suggest that the muslims released this film themselves (the ends justify the means after all) just to work the crowd up in time for the tenth anniversary of 9-11? Any takers at all?
2012-09-11 10:18:09 PM  
1 vote:

Marine1: They don't think he's god. It's an atheist country. Instead of worshiping God, they worship human constructs, which is what would happen if you eliminated religion... people would still find shiat to kill each other over. You want Norway and Sweden, fine, but you have to take the shiatholes with the utopias.


I think people overstate how atheist Scandinavians are. Sweden is Lutheran, with a lot of tolerance & education built in. Scandinavians are all generally Lutheran, but not fanatically so. They just don't give a shiat so much about labels like that.

Scandinavian culture has more to do with who they are as people rather than atheism or Lutheranism... but the holier-than-thou atheists can go on pointing at them as evidence of how atheism "works", I guess.

/Some good friends from Denmark, Finland, and Sweden
2012-09-11 10:16:38 PM  
1 vote:

CigaretteSmokingMan: i172.photobucket.com


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! where is my Koran?? I got wipe all this beer of my screen
2012-09-11 10:14:38 PM  
1 vote:
Jesus people, grow the fark up. If God doesn't like being insulted, he'll smite the farkers. I've never understood this whole 'I-Had-to-attack-him-because-he-was-a-sinner,-which-God-has-commanded- against,-and-they-will-go-to-Hell-as-a-result' argument, since God already supposedly has a penal plan in place. He's the head cheese, he can handle being judge, jury and executioner. Acting on "behalf" of God just means that you are trying to 'be' him, which I'm pretty sure is a sin as well.
2012-09-11 10:13:31 PM  
1 vote:

Bhasayate: I'm just saying, crazy people will do crazy things.


sorry for misunderstanding. After the list of radical islamists attacks posted earlier, and today, and 1/2 bottle of Jose.... I just wish we could support the actual sane people over there better. It's the only way, unless a glass parking lot is an acceptable option. And could we actually find out who is sane over there? I know they are there. Gotta be scared shiatless... I couldn't do it. I would put on the lakers hat.
2012-09-11 10:11:06 PM  
1 vote:

madgonad: Koalacaust: At the very least, you seem to be claiming that the people who made this movie should have anticipated the violent reaction of Muslims (you actually imply that this was the desired reaction!) and thus should have never made the film in the first place. This is exactly like telling a rape victim that she shouldn't have dressed provocatively because she should have known that she was likely to get raped if she did. In fact, because she was dressing that way, she must have wanted it all along!

Free speech is free speech. I should be able to say what I want about someone's system of beliefs and not have to worry about being abducted or killed in the street because I "hurt someone's religious feelings", as the US government puts it.

No, films like this are just hate speech. Pornography which serves no civil purpose in society. The goal of the film is not to inform or discuss, it is too inflame. The creator of this film is Jewish and from California and the promoter is an anti-Muslim Christian evangelical. Here is the video - you be the judge.


So of course that gives them every right to go all "durka durka muhamad jihad" and make with the violence. Got it, you're an idiot.
2012-09-11 10:08:11 PM  
1 vote:

The Dog Ate My Homework: Now we definitely need to elect Romney and Ryan. Those guys have a ton of foreign policy experience and no doubt know exactly how to handle this.


Or re-elect Obama, so he can issue more apologies, like today, and then race over there to hip-bow to them. Right?
2012-09-11 10:04:56 PM  
1 vote:

Bhasayate: People have found a way to be happy and not fear death all on their own now.


To be fair, I think that is a fine definition of religion.
2012-09-11 10:04:40 PM  
1 vote:

dr_blasto: topcon: WhyteRaven74: notShryke: You're reasoning is simply excusing any and all violence against US citizens from Islam. Just be honest and say so.

And if we all foam at the mouth condemning an entire religion, what good does that do? What does that gain us?

Christianity is about two levels less wacky than Islam is, yet you're not defending it when it's constantly derided here, are you?

What's the far left's fascination with Islam, anyway? Why are you so intent on constantly defending it when it's very clearly even kookier (in practice, not on paper) than the popular religions of this country?

Some Christianity is two levels less wacky than some Islam. Check your brush size, man.
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Snake handlers and their ilk probably make up less than 1% (I'm being generous here) of the Christian population but are far more fascinating and get far more publicity than your average, run of the mill pasteur ruminating the virtue of family togetherness during the holidays for twenty minutes at a time. Think of them as the PETA version of liberalism.
2012-09-11 10:04:36 PM  
1 vote:

Bhasayate: They're a crazy mob. They are gonna rant and rage and burn shiat and stuff.


so when people in whatever city loot, pillage and burn because their basketball team won the championship you shrug them off? Or if they are in your city, do you put on your Lakers hat? Don't you see THEY are the problem, not the movie?
2012-09-11 10:04:35 PM  
1 vote:

djkutch: Marine1: WhyteRaven74: Marine1: We're in the business of appeasement now.

Would you prefer we were still in the business of overthrowing governments to install leaders we approved of and propping up dictators simply for some nebulous goals while they kill their own citizens? Cause that never had any negative consequences...I mean just look at Iraq and Iran...on second thought...

No. I'd rather we said the following (copypasta from my earlier post in this thread):

"The right to free speech is a cornerstone of democracy in all societies and is to be respected by all peoples. With this in mind, the United States government would like to remind the protesters that it was in no way affiliated with the production, distribution, or conception of the offending materials. The government of the United States would also like to state that it has sovereignty over all consulates and embassies and that the US Marines stationed in these locations have been authorized to use deadly force to defend the facilities."

No threat of invasion, no ass-kissing, just plain statement of facts. Someone has now died in these embassy attacks, and any further protests near or on the grounds of American embassies and consulates need to be seen as direct threats to those on the premises.

McCain tomorrow. You know it's true:
"Why isn't Obama invading?"

or

"Why is Obama invading?"


That doesn't have to be the solution. Just tell them what I said. A plain statement of truths. We don't want to hurt them, but if they storm another embassy, we will, because we're not fools who think that dying is some sort of victory that requires deep thought to comprehend. We only need to speak softly and carry a big stick at those embassies... tell the truth, and back it up with some US Marines if need be.
2012-09-11 10:02:24 PM  
1 vote:

madgonad: Bhasayate: Yeah, yeah, I read a stat that says 80% of them say "no religion", but depending on the question is asked, many Buddhists may say they don't have any religion. There are very, very many ways of being Buddhist. It's not like you need to be on the Church roster or be a member of anything to be a Buddhist, etc., etc.

They are just like Sweden. Remember, Sweden has a STATE RELIGION. Public money actually goes to the church. There are plenty of churches there and long religious history. The population just doesn't believe in the nonsense any more. It is a good thing. Vietnam has rejected faith as well. The opiate of the masses just isn't necessary any more. People have found a way to be happy and not fear death all on their own now. Imagine what the world will look like in another 100 years.


I think we have a basic misunderstanding about just how minimalistic being Buddhist is, how little it requires of one in terms of "faith."

People have found a way to be happy and not fear death all on their own now.

This is a core teaching of Buddhism, actually.

I suspect that if you asked them, most Vietnamese would say "Yes, I think the Four Noble Truths are true." You don't need faith -- i.e., "other power" -- to follow the Eight Fold Path.

Again, I'm afraid we may be talking past each other here....
2012-09-11 10:01:08 PM  
1 vote:

Marine1: WhyteRaven74: Marine1: We're in the business of appeasement now.

Would you prefer we were still in the business of overthrowing governments to install leaders we approved of and propping up dictators simply for some nebulous goals while they kill their own citizens? Cause that never had any negative consequences...I mean just look at Iraq and Iran...on second thought...

No. I'd rather we said the following (copypasta from my earlier post in this thread):

"The right to free speech is a cornerstone of democracy in all societies and is to be respected by all peoples. With this in mind, the United States government would like to remind the protesters that it was in no way affiliated with the production, distribution, or conception of the offending materials. The government of the United States would also like to state that it has sovereignty over all consulates and embassies and that the US Marines stationed in these locations have been authorized to use deadly force to defend the facilities."

No threat of invasion, no ass-kissing, just plain statement of facts. Someone has now died in these embassy attacks, and any further protests near or on the grounds of American embassies and consulates need to be seen as direct threats to those on the premises.


McCain tomorrow. You know it's true:
"Why isn't Obama invading?"

or

"Why is Obama invading?"
2012-09-11 10:01:02 PM  
1 vote:

fusillade762: Damn these people are easy to troll. We need to find a way to use this to our advantage.


Supposedly we saw this coming and the Egyptian embassy was actually empty by the time this went down. We could just be pricks next time and play the game "Fun with Landmines, Tiger Pits, and Punji Stakes".
2012-09-11 09:57:22 PM  
1 vote:

Gulper Eel: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Why not? How is directly antagonizing a group of individuals without regard for the consequences (consequences which led to a fellow American being killed) NOT criminal recklessness or inciting a riot?

Because these particular individuals riot at damn near anything or even a false rumor of damn near anything, so fark them.


Wouldn't a history of rioting and over-reacting be evidence to CONVICT the idiot for blowing his AWing load?

I'm not excusing the savagery from the Muslims. This was barbaric, and the bastards should face the consequences as well. But getting into a screaming match with a toddler does not speak well for the non-toddler.
2012-09-11 09:56:19 PM  
1 vote:
i48.photobucket.com
2012-09-11 09:56:07 PM  
1 vote:

Marine1: "The right to free speech is a cornerstone of democracy in all societies and is to be respected by all peoples. With this in mind, the United States government would like to remind the protesters that it was in no way affiliated with the production, distribution, or conception of the offending materials. The government of the United States would also like to state that it has sovereignty over all consulates and embassies and that the US Marines stationed in these locations have been authorized to use deadly force to defend the facilitie


just wanted to say THIS
2012-09-11 09:55:40 PM  
1 vote:
For those who haven't already guessed- this was a film produced by a coptic cristian in Egypt. He's known for being a religious irritant. Stop pointing fingers at the US like we are actually responsible for this dumb ass move.

And US: quit apologizing for this dumbass. Let the government of Egypt apologise for the stupidity of its own dumb citizens.
2012-09-11 09:55:26 PM  
1 vote:

SandMann: They must have some pretty harsh bath salts in the Islamic world.


islam is far more dangerous to the mind than bath salts
2012-09-11 09:54:03 PM  
1 vote:

make me some tea: OBVIOUSLY Pastor Terry Jones did not kill anyone, but he is beating the hornet's nest. He did not have to do that. He already saw the reaction from his Koran-burning stunt. A rational person would realize the implications of his actions and not do that again. The Middle East is a farking powder keg more than it's ever been. WE DID NOT NEED THIS NOW


Perfect example of moral ignorance.
2012-09-11 09:53:09 PM  
1 vote:

WhyteRaven74: Marine1: With this in mind, the United States government would like to remind the protesters that it was in no way affiliated with the production, distribution, or conception of the offending materials.

I suspect the protestors know that.


They sure as fark aren't acting like it, then.
2012-09-11 09:53:07 PM  
1 vote:

WhyteRaven74: Actually the ones in Libya don't. Nor really do the Egyptians.


You might want to run that second bit by Lara Logan.
2012-09-11 09:50:17 PM  
1 vote:

madgonad: Bhasayate: Vietnam is a Buddhist country. I'm utterly unsurprised that most of them do not believe in God.

No, it isn't.

The majority of Vietnamese people classify themselves as non-religious, although they visit religious temples several times every year.  

They treat temple the same way the Swedes treat church. They go on holidays, but don't believe. A lot like me.


Read this for an interesting rebuttal to your no it isn't:
Still it's clear that Vietnam is a predominantly Buddhist country in both religion and culture and it has been for most of known recorded history

And

Vietnamese Buddhism has a long history of more than 2000 years.

Yeah, yeah, I read a stat that says 80% of them say "no religion", but depending on the question is asked, many Buddhists may say they don't have any religion. There are very, very many ways of being Buddhist. It's not like you need to be on the Church roster or be a member of anything to be a Buddhist, etc., etc.
2012-09-11 09:49:21 PM  
1 vote:

WhyteRaven74: Marine1: We're in the business of appeasement now.

Would you prefer we were still in the business of overthrowing governments to install leaders we approved of and propping up dictators simply for some nebulous goals while they kill their own citizens? Cause that never had any negative consequences...I mean just look at Iraq and Iran...on second thought...


No. I'd rather we said the following (copypasta from my earlier post in this thread):

"The right to free speech is a cornerstone of democracy in all societies and is to be respected by all peoples. With this in mind, the United States government would like to remind the protesters that it was in no way affiliated with the production, distribution, or conception of the offending materials. The government of the United States would also like to state that it has sovereignty over all consulates and embassies and that the US Marines stationed in these locations have been authorized to use deadly force to defend the facilities."

No threat of invasion, no ass-kissing, just plain statement of facts. Someone has now died in these embassy attacks, and any further protests near or on the grounds of American embassies and consulates need to be seen as direct threats to those on the premises.
2012-09-11 09:46:34 PM  
1 vote:

Koalacaust: Where are the violent protests and suicide bombings in Buddhist, Hindu, or Christian countries that have been oppressed?


Your knowledge of 20th century India and Sri Lanka could use some work.
2012-09-11 09:46:31 PM  
1 vote:

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Why not? How is directly antagonizing a group of individuals without regard for the consequences (consequences which led to a fellow American being killed) NOT criminal recklessness or inciting a riot?


Because these particular individuals riot at damn near anything or even a false rumor of damn near anything, so fark them.
2012-09-11 09:44:58 PM  
1 vote:

Gooseycheeks: evoke: Oh my god this is farking laughable. No farking way this statement could've been made under Bush, from http://egypt.usembassy.gov/pr091112.html :

"The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims - as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Today, the 11th anniversary of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States, Americans are honoring our patriots and those who serve our nation as the fitting response to the enemies of democracy. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others"

Appalling. How can an American - any American - make a statement like that? What the fark.

Seriously that's what I thought as well. The reason for freedom of speech is to protect offensive speech. If everyone agreed with what was being said it wouldn't need protection.

A better response would have been something along the lines of "While we don't always agree with what someone has to say, the freedom of speech is an important component to our society that we will not compromise every time a bunch of savages throw a fit."


I get a feeling some speech writer is about to get their ass handed to them tonight, and a new press release will be issued that puts things more into perspective.
2012-09-11 09:44:34 PM  
1 vote:

hasty ambush: Silly Jesus: shastacola: jshine: shastacola: There is not an iota of difference between Terry Jones and his followers and the ignorant muslims storming embassies.

What about the murder?

American fundamentalist aren't as violent as third world muslim fundalmentalists,that's high bar you've set, but hey, the ignorant religious nuts in the US aren't killing anyone so pat yourself on the back,dude. I swear if there was a country for atheist, I'd be packing my bags.

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You do realize the making of the film would be illegal in Sweden

Swedish Penal Code Chapter 16 Section 8

A person who, in a disseminated statement or communication, threatens or expresses contempt for a national, ethnic or other such
group of persons with allusion to race, colour, national or ethnic origin or religious belief shall, be sentenced for agitation against a
national or ethnic group to imprisonment for at most two years orif the crime is petty, to a fine. (Law 1988:835)


Never said they were perfect. Evidently they have their share of libtards.
2012-09-11 09:42:24 PM  
1 vote:

Gooseycheeks: evoke: Oh my god this is farking laughable. No farking way this statement could've been made under Bush, from http://egypt.usembassy.gov/pr091112.html :

"The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims - as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Today, the 11th anniversary of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States, Americans are honoring our patriots and those who serve our nation as the fitting response to the enemies of democracy. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others"

Appalling. How can an American - any American - make a statement like that? What the fark.

Seriously that's what I thought as well. The reason for freedom of speech is to protect offensive speech. If everyone agreed with what was being said it wouldn't need protection.

A better response would have been something along the lines of "While we don't always agree with what someone has to say, the freedom of speech is an important component to our society that we will not compromise every time a bunch of savages throw a fit."


We're in the business of appeasement now.

/farking disgraceful
//if I were a veteran, I'd be fuming at the State Department now.
2012-09-11 09:40:59 PM  
1 vote:

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: notShryke: Strawman. Argue honestly, please. Let's start with your opening position: America deserves anything perpetrated against it by Islam. Correct?

How your head didn't just explode from the cognitive dissonance is a miracle to modern science.


Elucidate please.
2012-09-11 09:40:13 PM  
1 vote:

topcon: 99 percent of the people rioting probably don't even know what the fark Youtube is, or even have access to the internet. Someone connected who has a voice (i.e. a church leader) over there is whipping these poor, uneducated golems into a frenzy and making them think "this movie I'm telling you about is really popular with all Americans, and this is what they all believe."

The leaders and dictators of these countries don't want the unwashed masses educated because it doesn't serve their wackier-than-fundies religion to be so. I swear if we had the money to drop hundreds of thousands of solar powered, hand crank, computers with satellite internet onto poor areas, we might have a chance of getting these savages to change. Of course, the government would try to destroy them with the penalty of death if you keep them, but some would stick around and maybe forment some new ideas.


The majority of the 9/11 hijackers were college educated and middle to upper class. Try again.
2012-09-11 09:40:10 PM  
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WhyteRaven74: It does not deserve it, however we can't be entirely surprised it happens given how we've conducted ourselves.


I repeat: you've given Islam a permanent pass. Grats.
2012-09-11 09:40:01 PM  
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evoke: Appalling. How can an American - any American - make a statement like that? What the fark.


It's so crammed with eager-not-to-offend diplo-speak I have to wonder whether somebody bothered to run the copy by at least Hillary. Anybody know how the diplomatic chain works in a situation like this?

And if the White House did okay that smarmy line of nevillechamberlainity, Obama just made Jimmy Carter look like Patton.
2012-09-11 09:39:52 PM  
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Gooseycheeks: They are too quick to violence, and too quick to be offended into violence.


The poor of Saudi Arabia, Yemen and a couple other places? Yeah. But Libyans? Not so much. Libyans are a completely different ethnic group, with a whole separate history and identity from the Arabs of the Arab peninsula. Libya has been for decades now a secular nation. While nominally one could say they maintain some semblance of Koranic law, as far as the country actually operates and the people live? It's secular. Qaddafi increased the presence of women in public life, allowed them to not just join the military but be officers, the number of females in school at all levels grew during his time in power. And he wasn't very big on saying anything about Allah. Indeed he didn't appear to ever be particularly observant.
2012-09-11 09:39:36 PM  
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omnibus_necanda_sunt: Stirring the murder-pot from across the planet is immoral. Just because it's legal doesn't make you an incredible douche.


ok.. sure Terry is a douche. That is clear. But who cares??? if this is the reaction, how could you possibly blame a movie? Or him? This is not a take over of 4 year olds jihadist!!! these are grown muslim manics!!

dictonary.com: irrational adj. - middle east muslim radicals.
2012-09-11 09:39:35 PM  
1 vote:

HawkEyes: If you are armed, kill someone, and storm an embassy you are no longer just a "protester." Just sayin'.


This. Sovereign territory....how the fark does it work?
2012-09-11 09:39:08 PM  
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So is it just me or does this film thing sound like a giant piece of bullshiat the powers that be are throwing around to downplay multiple attacks on US embassy in middle east on anniversary of 9/11?
2012-09-11 09:38:16 PM  
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tenpoundsofcheese: AverageAmericanGuy: American State Department responds to attacks.

Link

Are you sure that wasn't an onion article?

Can you imagine how the family of the killed guy must feel reading that??


Do you think their feelings might be hurt? Because I think we can all agree that getting your feelings hurt is bad.
2012-09-11 09:37:59 PM  
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EatTheWorld: face palm for humanity... WAKE UP and STAND UP SANE PEOPLE OF THE MIDDLE EAST!!!



"Today, all 3 sane people in the Middle East were brutally tortured and murdered in public after standing up against Religious nutwingery..."
2012-09-11 09:37:50 PM  
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Gooseycheeks: I'd say it's a problem with their culture, not US policy.


I'll just say its a lot easier to incite a poor and hungry crowd who believes they have no voice and no hope. And there's a lot of poor and hungry folks over there.
2012-09-11 09:36:33 PM  
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Don Dokken: AverageAmericanGuy: American State Department responds to attacks.

Link

Please tell me that isn't real....please?


I wouldn't link to the embassy's website if it wasn't real.
2012-09-11 09:36:04 PM  
1 vote:
Fark Islam
2012-09-11 09:35:02 PM  
1 vote:

OnlyM3: Partial list of islamist actions PRIOR to bush.


1979 Iran Hostage Crisis: seizure of US Tehran Embassy, Iran (Nov 4, 1979 for 444 days)
1983 Bombing of US Beirut Embassy, Lebanon (April 18, 1983)
1983 Bombing of US Marine barracks, Beirut, Lebanon (Oct 23, 1983)
1983 Bombing of US Kuwait Embassy (Dec 12, 1983)
1984 Bombing of US Beirut Embassy (again) (Sept 20, 1984)
1984 Kuwait Airlines Flight 221 hijacked to Tehran - American passengers murdered (Dec 3, 1984)
1985 Hijacking TWA Flight 847 hijacked to Beirut (June 14, 1985)
1985 Hijacking cruise ship Achille Lauro, wheelchair-bound American is thrown overboard & killed (Oct 7, 1985)
1986 Bombing Berlin disco frequented by US servicemen (April 5, 1986)
1988 Bombing Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland, 100′s murdered (Dec 21, 1988)
1993 First bombing World Trade Center, New York City, 7 Killed, 1,042 wounded (Feb 26, 1993)
1993 Foiled NY Landmarks plot by Omar Abdel Rahman to blow up the Holland and Lincoln tunnels
and other New York City landmarks
1993 Attempted Assassination of Pres. Bush Sr. during visit to Kuwait (April 14, 1993)
1993 Black Hawk Down: shot down US helicopters in Mogadishu, Somalia,
during Operation Restore Hope (Oct 3-4, 1993)
1994 Plot to assassinate President Clinton during visit to the Philippines
1995 Failed Project Bojinka by Ramzi Yousef to blow up a dozen US airliners over the Pacific (end in Jan 1995)
1995 Bombing US military headquarters, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia (Nov 13, 1995)
1996 Bombing Khobar Towers, Saudi Arabia, housing U.S. foreign military personnel (Jun 25, 1996)
1998 Bombing U.S. Nairobi Embassy, Kenya, Africa (Aug 7, 1998)
1998 Bombing U.S. Dar es Salaam Embassy, Tanzania, Africa (Aug 7, 1998)
1999 Foiled LAX Millennium plot by Ahmed Ressam to bomb Los Angeles International Airport
(Ressam was arrested at US Canadian border)
2000 Failed USS The Sullivans bombing that was refueling in the port of Aden, Yemen. (Jan 3, 2000)
2000 Bombing USS Cole ...



Mohammed farking damn that is a long list. When can we bomb these people out of the middle ages and into today or back to before jebbus? I mean really?? IT'S A MOVIE!!!

www.radioclashblog.com

face palm for humanity... WAKE UP and STAND UP SANE PEOPLE OF THE MIDDLE EAST!!!
2012-09-11 09:34:33 PM  
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Oh my god this is farking laughable. No farking way this statement could've been made under Bush, from http://egypt.usembassy.gov/pr091112.html :

"The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims - as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Today, the 11th anniversary of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States, Americans are honoring our patriots and those who serve our nation as the fitting response to the enemies of democracy. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others"

Appalling. How can an American - any American - make a statement like that? What the fark.
2012-09-11 09:33:21 PM  
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At the end of the day though, really as sad as the loss of life is, this is a failure by al-Qaeda/whoever did organize this. I'm sure what they wanted is for the Marine guards to open fire and some dead martyrs to parade around/make pictures of/etc. Fodder for a recruiting drive.

Instead 9/12 is going to come, local security forces are gonna wade in and crack some skulls, and so on and so forth. This will peter out and come 9/13 we'll be back to drone striking their command structure with impunity while they fail to get a new wave of recruits from this.

It does show though that when analysts talk about the role of religious extremists in the Arab Spring movement, we shouldn't laugh at them. The two embassies that were stormed both occurred in places that just went through the Arab Spring. Likely this was possible due to the fact elements of al-Qaeda (or a franchise) had the contacts needed to raise themselves a mob. Odds are al-Qaeda is making similar contacts in Syria and other places. Basically just because you have a mob in the streets acting out against a dictator doesn't mean it's actually good for America in the long run.
2012-09-11 09:33:09 PM  
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topcon: WhyteRaven74: notShryke: You're reasoning is simply excusing any and all violence against US citizens from Islam. Just be honest and say so.

And if we all foam at the mouth condemning an entire religion, what good does that do? What does that gain us?

Christianity is about two levels less wacky than Islam is, yet you're not defending it when it's constantly derided here, are you?

What's the far left's fascination with Islam, anyway? Why are you so intent on constantly defending it when it's very clearly even kookier (in practice, not on paper) than the popular religions of this country?


Christians and Christianity represent the mainstream power structure, against which Liberals imagine themselves hurling their bodies upon to protect the oppressed minority.

Islam and Muslims, being a minority and without any significant power, represents a victimized group which Liberals imagine themselves protecters of.
2012-09-11 09:33:01 PM  
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AverageAmericanGuy: American State Department responds to attacks.

Link


The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims - as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Today, the 11th anniversary of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States, Americans are honoring our patriots and those who serve our nation as the fitting response to the enemies of democracy. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others

Oh, poor crazy ass Muslims got their feelings hurt .... poor free speech mongers saying things to make people sad ... I guess we won't call them out for burning shiat and taking down a flag and putting up a Islamist flag with the Shahadah on it. And it's totally cool to kill a US diplomat. I mean, ya'll got your feelings hurt.
2012-09-11 09:32:52 PM  
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WhyteRaven74: MoeSzyslak: In their liberal pc kool-aid guzzling minds anything minorities do good or bad is a direct result of something white people did because apparently minorities are incapable of independent thought and action.

I dunno, propping up dictators, refusing to help those in need, those are things that are going to make people really not like you. And keep on not liking you long after those dictators are gone.

Koalacaust: shiatty film being screened on the other side of the planet.

The film isn't really the problem, it's at most a catalyst. The problem is about 60 years of US foreign policy.


I'd say it's a problem with their culture, not US policy. They are too quick to violence, and too quick to be offended into violence. Take the U.S. out of the equation and there's still plenty of examples of these ass backwards people that can't integrate into modern society. Heck, they can't even integrate with each other.
2012-09-11 09:32:21 PM  
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topcon: What's the far left's fascination with Islam, anyway? Why are you so intent on constantly defending it when it's very clearly even kookier (in practice, not on paper) than the popular religions of this country?


It's the Malcolm X cure for racism.

/also the cheapest and simplest to impose
//all you have to do is spend other peoples' money, and end other peoples' lives
2012-09-11 09:31:45 PM  
1 vote:
these countries need dictators like saddam to keep them acting human, that kind of total oppression is the only thing that can
2012-09-11 09:31:17 PM  
1 vote:

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier:

Charge the American with Criminal Recklessness since his actions directly led to the diplomat getting killed.


No they did not.
2012-09-11 09:30:29 PM  
1 vote:
Over there, the religious crazies whip their gulliable and desperate followers up to storm embassies.

Over here, our religious crazies whip their gulliable and desperate followers to vote for Todd Akin.

Third world problems vs first world problems.
2012-09-11 09:30:20 PM  
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notShryke: Your moral equivalency skills are desperately poor.


Betcha he gets his way in the end, though.

/just because something is so ridiculously stupid even a child can see it's wrong, that doesn't mean people can't be killed because of it
//atheists aren't any smarter than the religious nuts, they're just more dangerous and more thorough
2012-09-11 09:29:35 PM  
1 vote:
Obama decided to help the rebels in Libya. Now a U.S. official in Benghazi, the very stronghold that Obama was so intent on defending, is dead.

Here's another Nobel's Peace Prize Mr President. Good farking job.
2012-09-11 09:29:19 PM  
1 vote:

WhyteRaven74: notShryke: You're reasoning is simply excusing any and all violence against US citizens from Islam. Just be honest and say so.

And if we all foam at the mouth condemning an entire religion, what good does that do? What does that gain us?


Christianity is about two levels less wacky than Islam is, yet you're not defending it when it's constantly derided here, are you?

What's the far left's fascination with Islam, anyway? Why are you so intent on constantly defending it when it's very clearly even kookier (in practice, not on paper) than the popular religions of this country?
2012-09-11 09:29:06 PM  
1 vote:

2wolves: mooseyfate: 2wolves: mooseyfate: resurrect Teddy Roosevelt.

Recall when Mr. Reagan attempted to play Mr. Roosevelt in Lebanon and the results?

There's a difference between half-heartedly attempting to play Mr. Roosevelt and actually being Teddy Motherfarking Big Stick Roosevelt.

Mr. Roosevelt only did the Big Stick act when he knew he had overwhelming force. Don't romanticize his pragmatism.


If romancing the long dead corpse of Teddy Roosevelt is wrong, I don't want to be right.
2012-09-11 09:29:01 PM  
1 vote:

WhyteRaven74: notShryke: You're reasoning is simply excusing any and all violence against US citizens from Islam. Just be honest and say so.

And if we all foam at the mouth condemning an entire religion, what good does that do? What does that gain us?


Strawman. Argue honestly, please. Let's start with your opening position: America deserves anything perpetrated against it by Islam. Correct?
2012-09-11 09:29:01 PM  
1 vote:

GORDON: So... is Obama still running as the Foreign Policy candidate?


Remember Biden is their foreign policy expert

The guy who thinks 911 was bittersweet. Still trying to figure out the sweet part.
2012-09-11 09:27:57 PM  
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madgonad: Marine1: Should have used Sweden or Norway, since the state religion of NK is worshiping Dear Leader.

Those countries are effectively atheistic - despite a state religion, nobody believes in God there.

They don't think he's god. It's an atheist country. Instead of worshiping God, they worship human constructs, which is what would happen if you eliminated religion... people would still find shiat to kill each other over. You want Norway and Sweden, fine, but you have to take the shiatholes with the utopias.

It is most easily compared to a cult - which we still regard as a religion.

And the Norks don't even make the top ten for least religious.

1. Sweden (up to 85% non-believer, atheist, agnostic)
2. Vietnam
3. Denmark
4. Norway
5. Japan
6. Czech Republic
7. Finland
8. France
9. South Korea
10. Estonia (up to 49% non-believer, atheist, agnostic)

And my dad and brother recently got back from Vietnam. They have come a long way. Those atheistic countries look pretty good to me.


Vietnam is a Buddhist country. I'm utterly unsurprised that most of them do not believe in God.
2012-09-11 09:26:54 PM  
1 vote:

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: So, a tard supports a movie that offends other tards. Offended tards act like tards in response to first tard being a tard. Everyone in this story is a tard.

Charge the American with Criminal Recklessness since his actions directly led to the diplomat getting killed.


Your moral equivalency skills are desperately poor.
2012-09-11 09:25:48 PM  
1 vote:

SilentStrider: I say if its Pastor Jones they're so pissed at, we hand him over.Maybe throw in the Phelps family as well, just to be nice.


Why even pay their plane fare? We should just kill off every person in the USA who might do anything for religious reasons, like taking up arms and fighting to the death to protect ungrateful sneering FARKers from perpetually offended third-world barbarians.

/once we destroy our military, we'll never have to worry about going to war again!
//THIS INGENUOUS PLAN CANNOT POSSIBLY FAIL
2012-09-11 09:25:28 PM  
1 vote:
So... is Obama still running as the Foreign Policy candidate?
2012-09-11 09:25:22 PM  
1 vote:

WhyteRaven74: And if we all foam at the mouth condemning an entire religion, what good does that do? What does that gain us?


Warsaw, Paris, and Stalingrad?
2012-09-11 09:25:22 PM  
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99 percent of the people rioting probably don't even know what the fark Youtube is, or even have access to the internet. Someone connected who has a voice (i.e. a church leader) over there is whipping these poor, uneducated golems into a frenzy and making them think "this movie I'm telling you about is really popular with all Americans, and this is what they all believe."

The leaders and dictators of these countries don't want the unwashed masses educated because it doesn't serve their wackier-than-fundies religion to be so. I swear if we had the money to drop hundreds of thousands of solar powered, hand crank, computers with satellite internet onto poor areas, we might have a chance of getting these savages to change. Of course, the government would try to destroy them with the penalty of death if you keep them, but some would stick around and maybe forment some new ideas.
2012-09-11 09:25:20 PM  
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shastacola: give me doughnuts: If I had the money, I'd put up billboards all over the country that said (in Arabic, Farsi, Pashtu, Urdu, and whatever else) "Mohammad was a child-molester."

Aisha, his last wife, was 6 when Mo bought her and 9 when he first had sex with her.

Because that's what's really important, sticking it to their sky god in the name of your sky god.


I don't have a sky god. And Mohammed isn't a sky god. He was a man. The one that Muslims hold out as an excellent example and someone to be emulated.

And it needs to be said over and over and over and over just how farked and disgusting their "perfect man" is until they stop denying it, stop trying to justify it, and do some real extensive adjustments of their stupid ideology.

"Keep kicking them in the face, un til they apologize"
2012-09-11 09:23:43 PM  
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madgonad: Marine1: Should have used Sweden or Norway, since the state religion of NK is worshiping Dear Leader.

Those countries are effectively atheistic - despite a state religion, nobody believes in God there.

They don't think he's god. It's an atheist country. Instead of worshiping God, they worship human constructs, which is what would happen if you eliminated religion... people would still find shiat to kill each other over. You want Norway and Sweden, fine, but you have to take the shiatholes with the utopias.

It is most easily compared to a cult - which we still regard as a religion.

And the Norks don't even make the top ten for least religious.

1. Sweden (up to 85% non-believer, atheist, agnostic)
2. Vietnam
3. Denmark
4. Norway
5. Japan
6. Czech Republic
7. Finland
8. France
9. South Korea
10. Estonia (up to 49% non-believer, atheist, agnostic)

And my dad and brother recently got back from Vietnam. They have come a long way. Those atheistic countries look pretty good to me.


Norway???
79 percent of the population belong to the Evangelical church of norway

Sweden??
68 percent of population belongs to the Lutheran church of Sweden.
2012-09-11 09:23:19 PM  
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So, a tard supports a movie that offends other tards. Offended tards act like tards in response to first tard being a tard. Everyone in this story is a tard.

Charge the American with Criminal Recklessness since his actions directly led to the diplomat getting killed.
2012-09-11 09:22:25 PM  
1 vote:

madgonad: Marine1: Should have used Sweden or Norway, since the state religion of NK is worshiping Dear Leader.

Those countries are effectively atheistic - despite a state religion, nobody believes in God there.

They don't think he's god. It's an atheist country. Instead of worshiping God, they worship human constructs, which is what would happen if you eliminated religion... people would still find shiat to kill each other over. You want Norway and Sweden, fine, but you have to take the shiatholes with the utopias.

It is most easily compared to a cult - which we still regard as a religion.

And the Norks don't even make the top ten for least religious.

1. Sweden (up to 85% non-believer, atheist, agnostic)
2. Vietnam
3. Denmark
4. Norway
5. Japan
6. Czech Republic
7. Finland
8. France
9. South Korea
10. Estonia (up to 49% non-believer, atheist, agnostic)

And my dad and brother recently got back from Vietnam. They have come a long way. Those atheistic countries look pretty good to me.


A-theist. Without God. That's what it means. They don't believe in God in North Korea, which means they're atheists. Now, they worship the shiat out of Big Kim, which has its own negative consequences, but they don't worship a "magical" or "supernatural" being, which is what today's anti-theists label as the major cause of the world's problems.

What's that mean? It means two things:

1) Putting too much capital on to any one thing (religion, economics, politics) as the most important thing in your life is bad. When entire populations do that, it's worse.

2) Religion is not in and of itself a cause of all of these terrible things. Again, these people don't believe in a god, but still, horrific shiat happens. It's a loose correlation at best. The far stronger correlation (causation, actually) is that people don't put things in moderation and can't see past their own beliefs, no matter what they are.
2012-09-11 09:21:32 PM  
1 vote:
You know what would be funny, an arabic goth.

"Yeah yeah, allah ackbar...I HATE YOU DAD"
2012-09-11 09:20:54 PM  
1 vote:

mooseyfate: He wouldn't put up with this shiat for a second.


Funny enough his grandson was involved in a couple things the US really should have known better than to do that we're still dealing with the consequences of.
2012-09-11 09:20:43 PM  
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WhyteRaven74: The film isn't really the problem, it's at most a catalyst. The problem is about 60 years of US foreign policy.


You're reasoning is simply excusing any and all violence against US citizens from Islam. Just be honest and say so.
2012-09-11 09:18:54 PM  
1 vote:
i231.photobucket.com
2012-09-11 09:18:23 PM  
1 vote:
So, the citizens of two countries we supported during their uprisings are now storming embassies and killing Americans. Who could've seen this coming?
2012-09-11 09:18:10 PM  
1 vote:

mooseyfate: resurrect Teddy Roosevelt.


Recall when Mr. Reagan attempted to play Mr. Roosevelt in Lebanon and the results?
2012-09-11 09:17:59 PM  
1 vote:

Somacandra: Rather than inciting a mob mentality by labeling all protesters as "murderers,"


First, this statement makes no sense whatsoever. Second, I haven't labeled all the protesters "murderers". Strawman.

May I see your condemnation of the murderers, please? Makes things much easier if you actually reply to what I said.
2012-09-11 09:16:57 PM  
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madgonad: Koalacaust: madgonad: Screening the movies was deliberately provocative.

So if I make a movie or documentary that is liable offend someone, I shouldn't be allowed to publicly screen it lest I seem "provocative"?

madgonad: You know how pissed-off you get when you see crowds in the Middle East burning American flags?

I don't get pissed off when I see Muslims burning American flags. I guess I'm just not that sensitive. In fact, had they responded to this film by just burning American flags, no one would give a shiat, just business as usual in the Middle East. Instead they murdered a diplomat and burned down a consulate.

madgonad: except in our country it is legal to burn a flag but in their country it is ILLEGAL to insult Islam.

The thing about Sharia law is that it only applies to those who are stupid enough to impose it on themselves. These films were not even screened in an a Muslim country and violated no law, domestic or international. The same can't be said for the actions of these religious fanatics.

I'm calling BS on the flag burning. I have never met a conservative that didn't get totally butthurt over it. And I didn't say anything about suppressing speech, but speech has consequences. If I came over to your house during a family gathering and called your mother a whore, I would probably expect to get punched (or worse). All they see is the Great Satan winking and nodding at a tiny minority in this country and their actions. Just FYI - a tiny tiny tiny minority of Islamists were responsible for 9/11 - yet most of this country still blames the whole religion/region/ethnicity. Our reasoning - the rest of them did nothing to stop it. Well, we aren't stopping our dickbags either. I certainly don't think we should, but don't be surprised when we get the expected reaction.


The Muslims who think this way are not a tiny minority.
2012-09-11 09:15:35 PM  
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mooseyfate: Marine1: They don't think he's god. It's an atheist country. Instead of worshiping God, they worship human constructs, which is what would happen if you eliminated religion... people would still find shiat to kill each other over. You want Norway and Sweden, fine, but you have to take the shiatholes with the utopias.

Not trying to get all up in your shiat, but a 2:1 Atheist Utopia to Atheist shiathole ratio seems a far-sight better than the current "(insert religion here) ONLY!" Utopia to shiathole ratio. Which I believe is pretty much 0:All of them.


I can add China, Vietnam, Laos, and Cuba to that list.
2012-09-11 09:14:20 PM  
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djkutch: Marine1: madgonad: Marine1: shastacola: jshine: shastacola: There is not an iota of difference between Terry Jones and his followers and the ignorant muslims storming embassies.

What about the murder?

American fundamentalist aren't as violent as third world muslim fundalmentalists,that's high bar you've set, but hey, the ignorant religious nuts in the US aren't killing anyone so pat yourself on the back,dude. I swear if there was a country for atheist, I'd be packing my bags.

[www.theodora.com image 293x316]

Here's your bags. Enjoy your stay. Probably don't want to say too much that might piss off the wrong people.

Dasvidaniya, comrade.

Should have used Sweden or Norway, since the state religion of NK is worshiping Dear Leader.

Those countries are effectively atheistic - despite a state religion, nobody believes in God there.

They don't think he's god. It's an atheist country. Instead of worshiping God, they worship human constructs, which is what would happen if you eliminated religion... people would still find shiat to kill each other over. You want Norway and Sweden, fine, but you have to take the shiatholes with the utopias.

I could be wrong, but the last mass murder in that region was by a self proclaimed right wing Christian. Other than quality of life in both countries, your utopia analysis is spot on.


And here we come to the cross of the argument... are those people really Christian?

I'd say no, but then again, I'd like to see religion used as a force for good. Make it explicit that if you're harming other people because of the teachings, you're not following the teachings.

And before someone drops in and says, "well why not just eliminate the teachings", well, guess what... people kill each other for all sorts of shiat. Religion is far from the only reason, and people will actively go out of their way to find stuff to quarrel over in its absence. You can either respect people for their differences in opinion, or kill them over it. Right now, no matter what the difference may be (religion, politics, economics), we tend to kill.
2012-09-11 09:14:16 PM  
1 vote:

thunderbird8804: Somacandra: Nabb1: You know, I'd much rather stick up for Pastor Terry's right to express his idiocy than make excuses for the actions of a bunch of savages.

So its "rights" for the guy you like and "responsbilities" for the people you don't. Not surprised you'd feel that way. Funny how that works.

They have rights too, but you know what right neither they nor anyone else has? The right to storm a consulate and murder someone over hurt feelings.

/Stop giving in to the soft bigotry of low expectations, these people are thinking (?) adults, not mentally impaired children


In their liberal pc kool-aid guzzling minds anything minorities do good or bad is a direct result of something white people did because apparently minorities are incapable of independent thought and action. If a minority is successful it's because of their white guilt bleeding heart government handouts and lowered standards and if minorities misbehave such as slaughtering each other in Chicago or this nonsense going on in the Middle East right now it's a direct response to white racism and hate. Their condescending attitude toward minorities, treating them like trained circus animals not capable of success or failure without the prod of a trainer is truly great and enlightened. Now on the other hand anyone who sees minorities as human beings equally capable of achieving the same standards as the rest of us when not told their wholes lives that the only way they can get ahead is through handouts and drastically lowered standards are the racists.
2012-09-11 09:13:43 PM  
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Marcintosh: [civiliancontractors.files.wordpress.com image 635x435]
Yeah, great. Again eh?

This is what happens when people have nothing to live for but their religion.
Give them jobs and their own washing machines and televisions with cable and this animalistic behavior will end.
In the mean time, buckle up.


Much of their leadership ,like Bin Laden is/was well educated , wealthy etc. At least one fo the 9-11 hijackers was attending a college in Germany. The Fort Hood Shooter was also well educated and employed. What excuse do you make for them?

Many homegrown terrorist like members of the SDS and Weathemen also were educated and did not come from backgrounds of poverty.

Someone once made the comparison that bringing people like this into the 21st Century is like giving a gorilla a ballpoint pen. Eventually the gorillas will get frustrated and end up stabbing somebody with it.
2012-09-11 09:13:30 PM  
1 vote:

Plastic Trash Vortex: Nuke them.

I'm a stupid hippie librul Canadian and even I am appalled and sick of this shiat. Every time this happens, the US should just firebomb the city, Dresden-style. If it happens again then firebomb 10 more cities. If it happens again, lay waste to the entire country. Kill every last one of these farking worthless ragheaded farkers. The world will be better off without them.

/next time, I'll tell you how I really feel
//Mohammed is a goat-farking, cocksucking pedophile piece of shiat


Please Don't insult the goats.
2012-09-11 09:12:31 PM  
1 vote:
They came armed this time.
2012-09-11 09:11:26 PM  
1 vote:

Chevello: tzzhc4: We should set a precident where we nuke a city for every diplomat they kill. Just make sure it is low yield and we keep it above the ground to minimize fallout.

So, what ever happened with that neutron bomb thing from the 80s? Seemed like a good deal. Nuke the people, leave the buildings.


Neutron bong?
2012-09-11 09:09:19 PM  
1 vote:

Marcintosh: [civiliancontractors.files.wordpress.com image 635x435]
Yeah, great. Again eh?

This is what happens when people have nothing to live for but their religion.
Give them jobs and their own washing machines and televisions with cable and this animalistic behavior will end.
In the mean time, buckle up.


Bitterly clinging to guns and religion?
2012-09-11 09:09:13 PM  
1 vote:

WhyteRaven74: Propping up dictators may have unforeseen consequences, news at 11...


Strange, considering we helped oust the dictator of Libya about a year ago.

Seems high time we remind them we could do it again.
2012-09-11 09:08:56 PM  
1 vote:

KidneyStone: AdolfOliverPanties: Fark these people.

WE DIDN'T MAKE THE FILM!!!!!!

Buy a farking globe, you God damned turds.

Why can't the Middle East just be on a different planet, say 1000 light years from here?

Apparently "we" did.

Here's the trailer they're all pissed about:

Sam Bacile, an American citizen who said he produced, directed and wrote the two-hour film


OK, so I thought this was going to be some sort of slanted documentary but it is more like a badly acted comedy. Its a bunched of browned up white people, bad green screens and over the top stereotypes. I laughed at the Life of Brian. Why can't they laugh at this? Also this is a 2 hour movie? You learn all you need to learn about the film in the 13.5 min trailer there. Its like a cliff notes version.

/the acting is bad and actors should feel bad.
//the guy who plays Mohammed better watch his neck.
2012-09-11 09:08:31 PM  
1 vote:

make me some tea

Thanks, Pastor Terry!

You blame women when they're raped too, don't you.
2012-09-11 09:08:18 PM  
1 vote:

Vegan Meat Popsicle: machoprogrammer: Yeah, let's blame him and not the guys who killed the diplomat. Because it is so hard to not outrage over someone making a film about your sky-wizard prophet

Or we could blame the both of them. Or we could just point out that religious people, having actively chosen to abandon reason, are almost inevitably doomed to this sort of shiat all around.

When you start to believe that your opinions are intractable and absolutely untouchable pillars of reality after you came to them entirely through "faith", this becomes unavoidable in the long term because everybody who does that isn't going to draw the same random horseshiat conclusions out of their asses. The only solution is for all religious people to grow a motherfarking brain and stop chasing after magic in the sky.


Or we could act reasonably, respect the right to free speech and freedom of religion and hold solely accountable those who act like violent savage barbarians. Sad to see so many people who think fear (terror) is a good enough reason to even question constitutional rights.

The blame for these violent acts lays ONLY with those who committed them.
2012-09-11 09:07:29 PM  
1 vote:

madgonad: Marine1: shastacola: jshine: shastacola: There is not an iota of difference between Terry Jones and his followers and the ignorant muslims storming embassies.

What about the murder?

American fundamentalist aren't as violent as third world muslim fundalmentalists,that's high bar you've set, but hey, the ignorant religious nuts in the US aren't killing anyone so pat yourself on the back,dude. I swear if there was a country for atheist, I'd be packing my bags.

[www.theodora.com image 293x316]

Here's your bags. Enjoy your stay. Probably don't want to say too much that might piss off the wrong people.

Dasvidaniya, comrade.

Should have used Sweden or Norway, since the state religion of NK is worshiping Dear Leader.

Those countries are effectively atheistic - despite a state religion, nobody believes in God there.


They don't think he's god. It's an atheist country. Instead of worshiping God, they worship human constructs, which is what would happen if you eliminated religion... people would still find shiat to kill each other over. You want Norway and Sweden, fine, but you have to take the shiatholes with the utopias.
2012-09-11 09:07:14 PM  
1 vote:
i50.tinypic.com
2012-09-11 09:06:47 PM  
1 vote:

Silly Jesus: notShryke: Nice to see the usual leftist shiatbags decrying free speech instead of the murderers.

Welcome to Fark.


Welcome to American Twitter diplomacy
2012-09-11 09:05:15 PM  
1 vote:

Somacandra: Nabb1: You seemed quick to make excuses and absolve the perpetrators of responsibility.

No, I was just pointing out how selective you always are about sticking up for right-wing reactionary assholes as long as they are American, while everyone else has to behave. You're the one who chose to talk about Pastor Terry, not me. As far as I know he has nothing to do with this--but that didn't stop you from sticking up for him, did it?


Did Pastor Terry kill someone and storm an embassy? I missed that.
2012-09-11 09:04:04 PM  
1 vote:

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Marine1: //that will certainly help the situation

You know what definitely hasn't helped the situation? For about 10,000 years?

Pretending people who believe in magic aren't completely out of their farking minds. Maybe it's time we try something different.


Because everyone who's religious gets offended at stuff constantly and kills people at random. EVERYONE.

/put the Dawkins down and wake up.
2012-09-11 09:03:44 PM  
1 vote:

Somacandra: evoke: Still haven't heard anything from Obama about this.

Americans are held hostage all over the world every day and you don't hear about it from any President.

/you sound concerned


An embassy official was MURDERED and the embassy attacked.
Does that happen everyday?

0bama got the peace prize and all he can do is nothing except give campaign speeches about his incomplete job?
That is what you are defending? Really?
2012-09-11 09:03:35 PM  
1 vote:
War. War never changes.
2012-09-11 09:03:04 PM  
1 vote:

Marine1: //that will certainly help the situation


You know what definitely hasn't helped the situation? For about 10,000 years?

Pretending people who believe in magic aren't completely out of their farking minds. Maybe it's time we try something different.
2012-09-11 09:01:43 PM  
1 vote:
Propping up dictators may have unforeseen consequences, news at 11...
2012-09-11 09:01:03 PM  
1 vote:

shastacola: jshine: shastacola: There is not an iota of difference between Terry Jones and his followers and the ignorant muslims storming embassies.

What about the murder?

American fundamentalist aren't as violent as third world muslim fundalmentalists,that's high bar you've set, but hey, the ignorant religious nuts in the US aren't killing anyone so pat yourself on the back,dude. I swear if there was a country for atheist, I'd be packing my bags.


www.theodora.com

Here's your bags. Enjoy your stay. Probably don't want to say too much that might piss off the wrong people.

Dasvidaniya, comrade.
2012-09-11 09:01:00 PM  
1 vote:
Good thing Obama got that Nobel Peace Prize, otherwise, things would be ugly. Wait, they are?
2012-09-11 08:59:32 PM  
1 vote:
Nice to see the usual leftist shiatbags decrying free speech instead of the murderers.
2012-09-11 08:59:32 PM  
1 vote:

make me some tea: Thanks, Pastor Terry!


Free speech merits violence?
2012-09-11 08:58:33 PM  
1 vote:

Vegan Meat Popsicle: uber humper: Give it another 200 years. Or better yet, if we all start converting to Islam, this wouldn't be a problem -- would it?

Yea. Because religions never find a reason to splinter and kill each other internally.

Jerseysteve22: Attacking other people just because they chose to have faith in something greater than themselves

Your god isn't real. The dead bodies your friends have left behind are. Now piss off.


Prove it.
They're not friends of mine. I am from America, so I do not know them. You sound mad bro.
2012-09-11 08:58:33 PM  
1 vote:

Vegan Meat Popsicle: uber humper: Give it another 200 years. Or better yet, if we all start converting to Islam, this wouldn't be a problem -- would it?

Yea. Because religions never find a reason to splinter and kill each other internally.

Jerseysteve22: Attacking other people just because they chose to have faith in something greater than themselves

Your god isn't real. The dead bodies your friends have left behind are. Now piss off.


I doubt those people are his friends.

/continue with your prejudice
//that will certainly help the situation
2012-09-11 08:56:15 PM  
1 vote:

TV's Vinnie: "Rev." Terry is a jerk, but he has a First Amendment right to be a jerk.

Just doesn't sit right with me about the idea of some Islamicists from afar dictating to Americans what they can and cannot do on American soil. Isn't that what liberals and conservatives alike should be against?


But we hurt someone's feeeeeelings. Didn't you read the official bleeding heart capitulating government apology to them for them attacking our embassies?
2012-09-11 08:55:58 PM  
1 vote:

Koalacaust: madgonad: Free speech =/= tolerating dickbags

Since when does criticizing religion automatically make you a dickbag?

madgonad: I would also point out that we generally judge THEM by western laws. They are doing the same. Their laws would result in the death penalty for insulting Islam

Luckily Sharia law only applies to those who are stupid enough to impose it on themselves. Unfortunately for these protesters, storming a consulate and burning it to the ground is a violation of international law (which they are subject to) and should be treated as such.


Screening the movies was deliberately provocative.

You know how pissed-off you get when you see crowds in the Middle East burning American flags? It is just like that - except in our country it is legal to burn a flag but in their country it is ILLEGAL to insult Islam.
2012-09-11 08:55:34 PM  
1 vote:

shastacola: Christ almighty I'm sick of religious nuts. There is not an iota of difference between Terry Jones and his followers and the ignorant muslims storming embassies. Throw them all together and let the rest of us live in the 21st century.


There IS a difference though, and the difference is that Terry Jones is expressing his opinion without storming embassies or killing people. But please, continue to be willfully ignorant of the obvious.
2012-09-11 08:55:03 PM  
1 vote:
I for one am glad that whole Arab spring thing is working out so well.
2012-09-11 08:53:26 PM  
1 vote:

evoke: Still haven't heard anything from Obama about this.


Americans are held hostage all over the world every day and you don't hear about it from any President.

/you sound concerned
2012-09-11 08:53:14 PM  
1 vote:
"Rev." Terry is a jerk, but he has a First Amendment right to be a jerk.

Just doesn't sit right with me about the idea of some Islamicists from afar dictating to Americans what they can and cannot do on American soil. Isn't that what liberals and conservatives alike should be against?
2012-09-11 08:53:08 PM  
1 vote:
Jesus said he loves me, but I just assumed he was trying to get me in bed.

/will that cause the Italians to storm our embassy?
2012-09-11 08:50:58 PM  
1 vote:

Somacandra: Nabb1: You know, I'd much rather stick up for Pastor Terry's right to express his idiocy than make excuses for the actions of a bunch of savages.

So its "rights" for the guy you like and "responsbilities" for the people you don't. Not surprised you'd feel that way. Funny how that works.


I'm sorry, how is Terry "responsible" for this? You seemed quick to make excuses and absolve the perpetrators of responsibility. Are you saying those people are incapable of controlling themselves? Appease them all you want. Enjoy your new BFFs.
2012-09-11 08:50:48 PM  
1 vote:
Too bad they don't have any oil.
2012-09-11 08:50:29 PM  
1 vote:
k, for every american diplomat killed we burn a libyan oil field

fair deal, right?
2012-09-11 08:50:11 PM  
1 vote:
But officials said it remained unclear whether the two protests in Benghazi and Cairo had been coordinated or whether they were linked.

"We cannot confirm any connection between these incidents," said a senior State Department official, asking to remain anonymous.



ORLY?

Benghazi - The protests were sparked by outrage over a video being promoted by an extreme anti-Muslim Egyptian Christian campaigner in the US, which the demonstrators say insults the Prophet Mohammed.


Cairo - Angry protesters climbed the walls of the U.S. Embassy in Cairo on Tuesday and tore down the American flag, apparently in protest of a film thought to insult the Prophet Mohammed.
2012-09-11 08:49:39 PM  
1 vote:

Purdue_Pete: make me some tea: Thanks, Pastor Terry!

Like so many in this thread, let me try my best to enlighten.

See, you and I both agree - Terry is a flaming assclown. However, he made a movie in America where we have "freedom" (to a degree at least). Yes, he insulted and enraged an entire religion but people need to chill the fark out. You don't burn things down and kill people because you're feelings are hurt. It's what you might call "irrational"... perhaps barbaric in some circles?


Calling them barbaric would just hurt their feelings and cause them to further inflict barbaric harm on other people. We'll just use the codeword of "Pantsiful." Those pantsiful people stormed the embassy commited the pantsiful act of murder and effegy burning.

/motherfarking pantsiful beasts...
2012-09-11 08:48:49 PM  
1 vote:

thunderbird8804: Tennozan: With all the brotherhood and goodwill that Georgy McFlightsuit spread in the region, you'd think there'd be a little more peace amongst the enlightened folk.

Blame anyone but the perpetrators. republicans


FTFF (fixed that for Fark)
2012-09-11 08:48:42 PM  
1 vote:

Nabb1: You know, I'd much rather stick up for Pastor Terry's right to express his idiocy than make excuses for the actions of a bunch of savages.


So its "rights" for the guy you like and "responsbilities" for the people you don't. Not surprised you'd feel that way. Funny how that works.
2012-09-11 08:48:29 PM  
1 vote:

Nabb1: make me some tea: Thanks, Pastor Terry!

You know, I'd much rather stick up for Pastor Terry's right to express his idiocy than make excuses for the actions of a bunch of savages. They want to silence their critics, and you seem inclined to agree. We don't measure a free society by how we defend those espousing popular ideas, but how we defend those expressing unpopular ideas. It's unfortunate to see your sentiment expressed, especially on this day, by so many people.


+1
2012-09-11 08:47:56 PM  
1 vote:
I for one am shocked, SHICKED that [any] religion rooted in violence and GENOCIDE has violent followers.
2012-09-11 08:47:36 PM  
1 vote:

WTFDYW: We either need to show some balls and drone the fark out of some people or GTFO and take care of shiat here at home.

/i vote GTFO and take care of shiat here at home


Nah. Do neither.

Shoot one of the protesters that tries to get over the wall. It won't be fun to the rest of them anymore and they'll go home.
2012-09-11 08:45:57 PM  
1 vote:

Vegan Meat Popsicle:
Fark religious people. I'm tired of pretending I should give a shiat about their stupid delusions. It's 2012. Maybe it's a little bit past the time when people have any justifiable reason to keep killing each other over magic.

2012-09-11 08:45:53 PM  
1 vote:

Jerseysteve22: Vegan Meat Popsicle: The fact that we continue to tolerate this sort of mayhem so that ignorant people can continue to chase after ghosts and magic to explain things they're too dumb or cowardly to understand is proof that most of us never really evolved.

Pot calling the kettle black. You're just as intolerant as those you're criticizing.


being intolerant of intolerant people is not hypocrisy, it's the only realistic stance to stop their madness.
2012-09-11 08:45:49 PM  
1 vote:
2012-09-11 08:44:58 PM  
1 vote:

madgonad: Free speech =/= tolerating dickbags


Since when does criticizing religion automatically make you a dickbag?

madgonad: I would also point out that we generally judge THEM by western laws. They are doing the same. Their laws would result in the death penalty for insulting Islam


Luckily Sharia law only applies to those who are stupid enough to impose it on themselves. Unfortunately for these protesters, storming a consulate and burning it to the ground is a violation of international law (which they are subject to) and should be treated as such.
2012-09-11 08:44:11 PM  
1 vote:

shastacola: Christ almighty I'm sick of religious nuts. There is not an iota of difference between Terry Jones and his followers and the ignorant muslims storming embassies. Throw them all together and let the rest of us live in the 21st century.


Yeah, making a movie, and killing someone because your feelings were hurt are exactly the same.

/Grow up
2012-09-11 08:43:25 PM  
1 vote:

Happy Hours: I don't know what PBUH is,


PBUH means "Peace Be Upon Him." Its an honorific bestowed on the five Prophets of Firm Resolve in Islam: Moses (Musa), Abraham (Ibrahim), Noah (Nur), Jesus (Isa) and Mohammed. You know, there is this thing called the Google that can help you find these things out.
2012-09-11 08:43:07 PM  
1 vote:

KidneyStone: AdolfOliverPanties: Fark these people.

WE DIDN'T MAKE THE FILM!!!!!!

Buy a farking globe, you God damned turds.

Why can't the Middle East just be on a different planet, say 1000 light years from here?

Apparently "we" did.

Here's the trailer they're all pissed about:

Sam Bacile, an American citizen who said he produced, directed and wrote the two-hour film


I just thumb-upped that film, due to the guy that looks like Jeff Daniels.
2012-09-11 08:42:18 PM  
1 vote:

thunderbird8804: Tennozan: With all the brotherhood and goodwill that Georgy McFlightsuit spread in the region, you'd think there'd be a little more peace amongst the enlightened folk.

Blame anyone but the perpetrators.


That's the logic, man. Can't blame the victim (Muslims).
2012-09-11 08:41:56 PM  
1 vote:

Shanghai_Flyer: What does Terry Jones have to do with these incidents?


Nothing, but make me some tea got the troll ball rolling. I'll give him a 10/10 for that. Also the linked article sucks for details. Read Dragon link's link for much better details, like who is actually making the movie.

/that said I don't care if its terry, pissed off copts or a Dutch cartoonist depicting Mohammed in a not nice way. WTF rioters?
2012-09-11 08:40:51 PM  
1 vote:

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Jerseysteve22: You're just as intolerant as those you're criticizing.

Yea, real sorry about that. Real sorry I don't think it's reasonable to continue to allow people to bicker and fight until they start killing each other over who's specific version of the magic sky genie is the right one.

Fark religious people. I'm tired of pretending I should give a shiat about their stupid delusions. It's 2012. Maybe it's a little bit past the time when people have any justifiable reason to keep killing each other over magic.


Attacking other people just because they chose to have faith in something greater than themselves is just as intolerant as a bunch of people getting pissed off because some fringe righty wants to attention whore again. Did you get raped by a priest or something? Where does all this anger come from? Live in let live.

God bless
2012-09-11 08:40:39 PM  
1 vote:

Vegan Meat Popsicle: It's 2012. Maybe it's a little bit past the time when people have any justifiable reason to keep killing each other over magic.


Give it another 200 years. Or better yet, if we all start converting to Islam, this wouldn't be a problem -- would it?

I wonder how long it will be before the weak minded Westerners start converting? Kinda like the "Better Red than Dead" crowd from a generation ago.
2012-09-11 08:40:26 PM  
1 vote:

Happy Hours: I don't know what PBUH is, but I'll respect Mohammed when people like him stop attacking embassies and people in general over stupid shiat like this.


Peace Be Upon Him

Which is funny, given the murder of Americans. LOL!

/I'm sure I'm the only one who will respond about PBUH
2012-09-11 08:40:16 PM  
1 vote:
I think the only real answer is to put all religious fundamentalists on an island and have them battle to the death. Those left standing must be worshiping the correct god. Their reward should be a one way ticket to the afterlife of their choice.
2012-09-11 08:39:37 PM  
1 vote:

Igor Jakovsky: it is EXILED COPTIC CHRISTIANS living over here. They have sort of a right to be pissed, given that they have been massacred and their churches burned. They are probably here in exile under fear of death.


There are plenty of Egyptian Coptic Christians in the US (and Egypt) who are not pissed off or exiled as well. Muslims and Copts in Egypt helped each other out during the uprising and the elections.
2012-09-11 08:39:15 PM  
1 vote:
The fact they even believed anything they saw on the internet in the first place is a more serious issue.
2012-09-11 08:36:42 PM  
1 vote:

spoony_pandora: Well I guess this is what results from a society living under a dictatorship, with all information carefully controlled and censored, for all of these peoples lives. They just naturally assume that if the film got released it must have the governments support or be its official position on things.


I'm glad someone has finally realized this. They can only view the "USA" through their own lens of experience. They know as little about Americans as Americans know about Egyptians/Libyans.
2012-09-11 08:35:03 PM  
1 vote:

netweavr: On the anniversary of 9/11?

I'm having a hard-time believing this is spontaneous.


It's the gop dirty trick squad's warm up for an October surprise.
2012-09-11 08:34:00 PM  
1 vote:
AdolfOliverPanties
Fark these people.
WE DIDN'T MAKE THE FILM!!!!!!
Buy a farking globe, you God damned turds.


Hey now, they aren't the only ones who could need assistance with maps and such as.
Other people have invaded Afghanistan and Iraq in revenge for a terrorist attack committed mainly by Saudi Arabians or have flattened another country's embassy because of outdated maps.
2012-09-11 08:33:33 PM  
1 vote:

Dragonblink: Better info.

/American media sucks ass


thank you for this. It isn't dickhead terry Jones that is making the movie it is EXILED COPTIC CHRISTIANS living over here. They have sort of a right to be pissed, given that they have been massacred and their churches burned. They are probably here in exile under fear of death.
2012-09-11 08:32:36 PM  
1 vote:

make me some tea: CNN broadcasting Pastor Terry Jones did not kill anyone, but he is they are beating the hornet's nest


FTFY
2012-09-11 08:29:58 PM  
1 vote:

Vegan Meat Popsicle: The fact that we continue to tolerate this sort of mayhem so that ignorant people can continue to chase after ghosts and magic to explain things they're too dumb or cowardly to understand is proof that most of us never really evolved.


Pftftftftf! Our "civilization" is a thin veneer. We are just a bunch of poo flinging monkeys with bad-ass tool making skills. We are all one catastrophe away from killing our neighbors and eating their children.
2012-09-11 08:29:43 PM  
1 vote:

Gormanoglu: I'm gonna re-post this from the other thread....

Dear religious people everywhere:

If your Deity were truly omnipotent then one would assume that He/She/It would be perfectly capable of fighting its own battles for itself. When you work yourself into a frenzy over an alleged insult made by someone across the planet, you merely suggest to the rest of us that not only is your "God" totally imaginary but He/She/It is nothing more than a psychological projection of your own biases and insecurities.


Or maybe the Deity doesn't care.

Oh, wait, you think all religious people are violent retards like the ones in the Middle East, and don't make the above statement based on reality. My mistake.
2012-09-11 08:29:21 PM  
1 vote:

make me some tea: jshine: make me some tea: OBVIOUSLY Pastor Terry Jones did not kill anyone, but he is beating the hornet's nest. He did not have to do that. He already saw the reaction from his Koran-burning stunt. A rational person would realize the implications of his actions and not do that again. The Middle East is a farking powder keg more than it's ever been. WE DID NOT NEED THIS NOW

True, but of the various guilty parties here, his guilt is not the worst.

If Al insults Bob in a bar, and Bob shoots Al in response (or Bob goes on a wild killing spree), the one going to prison is Bob.

As in the previous thread, apparently I have to explain myself again.

Terry Jones is an idiot. These stupid muslims are even bigger idiots and now murderers. Libya and Egypt are in an especially fragile state right now. Then we've got Jones throwing a bomb from the sidelines and blows the whole farking thing up. Property damage is one thing, but now someone is dead. People have to realize the global implications of their words. This shiat flies around the world in seconds.



Oh, I get it. I understand what you're saying. ...but I just can't muster the same level of outrage for one idiot sounding off as I can for a murderous mob.
2012-09-11 08:28:35 PM  
1 vote:

make me some tea: jshine: make me some tea: OBVIOUSLY Pastor Terry Jones did not kill anyone, but he is beating the hornet's nest. He did not have to do that. He already saw the reaction from his Koran-burning stunt. A rational person would realize the implications of his actions and not do that again. The Middle East is a farking powder keg more than it's ever been. WE DID NOT NEED THIS NOW

True, but of the various guilty parties here, his guilt is not the worst.

If Al insults Bob in a bar, and Bob shoots Al in response (or Bob goes on a wild killing spree), the one going to prison is Bob.

As in the previous thread, apparently I have to explain myself again.

Terry Jones is an idiot. These stupid muslims are even bigger idiots and now murderers. Libya and Egypt are in an especially fragile state right now. Then we've got Jones throwing a bomb from the sidelines and blows the whole farking thing up. Property damage is one thing, but now someone is dead. People have to realize the global implications of their words. This shiat flies around the world in seconds.


I read on the BBC that this wasn't a Dickbag (he's no pastor) Terry move... that some expatriate Copts made the film.
2012-09-11 08:27:15 PM  
1 vote:

jshine: make me some tea: OBVIOUSLY Pastor Terry Jones did not kill anyone, but he is beating the hornet's nest. He did not have to do that. He already saw the reaction from his Koran-burning stunt. A rational person would realize the implications of his actions and not do that again. The Middle East is a farking powder keg more than it's ever been. WE DID NOT NEED THIS NOW

True, but of the various guilty parties here, his guilt is not the worst.

If Al insults Bob in a bar, and Bob shoots Al in response (or Bob goes on a wild killing spree), the one going to prison is Bob.


As in the previous thread, apparently I have to explain myself again.

Terry Jones is an idiot. These stupid muslims are even bigger idiots and now murderers. Libya and Egypt are in an especially fragile state right now. Then we've got Jones throwing a bomb from the sidelines and blows the whole farking thing up. Property damage is one thing, but now someone is dead. People have to realize the global implications of their words. This shiat flies around the world in seconds.
2012-09-11 08:26:28 PM  
1 vote:

Uncle_Sam's_Titties: HAM BALLS ON ALL THEIR FACES


I know just the men for the job.
t1.gstatic.com
torontoist.com
2012-09-11 08:26:06 PM  
1 vote:

God-is-a-Taco: make me some tea: Thanks, Pastor Terry!

Let's silence his free speech then.


Free speech ≠ speech without consequences.

/this post is a repeat from about 12 hours ago.
2012-09-11 08:25:41 PM  
1 vote:
What does Terry Jones have to do with these incidents?
2012-09-11 08:24:40 PM  
1 vote:
As coordinated events on the eleventh of September go, this one lacks the oomph of previous attempts.
2012-09-11 08:23:32 PM  
1 vote:
>THIS IS WHY WE INSTALL DICTATORS

/so you don't have to
2012-09-11 08:23:19 PM  
1 vote:
HAM BALLS ON ALL THEIR FACES
2012-09-11 08:21:35 PM  
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machoprogrammer: make me some tea: Thanks, Pastor Terry!

Yeah, let's blame him and not the guys who killed the diplomat. Because it is so hard to not outrage over someone making a film about your sky-wizard prophet


The Libyans are the victims here. What farking BS. What the fark is wrong with the world were everyone is becoming so sensitive.

The more you treat people with kid gloves the more sensitive they become.
2012-09-11 08:20:55 PM  
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Vegan Meat Popsicle: The fact that we continue to tolerate this sort of mayhem so that ignorant people can continue to chase after ghosts and magic to explain things they're too dumb or cowardly to understand is proof that most of us never really evolved.


Pot calling the kettle black. You're just as intolerant as those you're criticizing.
2012-09-11 08:20:50 PM  
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Jerseysteve22: God-is-a-Taco: make me some tea: Thanks, Pastor Terry!

Let's silence his free speech then.

He can have all the free speech he wants. Just not here, he should be exiled from the United States and all it's territories. If our allies know what is good for them, they should refuse to let him enter. Let him go to the middle east. They'll welcome him there.


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2012-09-11 08:20:40 PM  
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God-is-a-Taco: Oh, and god damn these farkers are insecure about their god and prophet.
It's not too late to convert Africa to the official "religious war" continent and ship people there to find the winning god.


Your idea actually has merit. I say this only because these whackjobs aren't going away... at least not fast enough for the more sane part of the world.
2012-09-11 08:18:19 PM  
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In other news, the US apparently has (had?) a consulate in Libya.

/cluster bombs at dawn
2012-09-11 08:16:18 PM  
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make me some tea: Thanks, Pastor Terry!


Is there a lorem ipsum derp generator, or does it just come natural for you?
2012-09-11 08:16:02 PM  
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I've read the article, but i can't seem to find anything about which movie has them so worked up. Can someone post a link?
2012-09-11 08:14:19 PM  
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How does this start?

"Hey man I heard the US is making a Mohammed fim. Wanna go shoot up the embassy"
"Onward soldier!"

thisisanoutrage.jpg?
2012-09-11 08:12:41 PM  
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Is it Storm the Embassy Day and I didn't get the memo AGAIN?
 
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