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2012-09-11 09:44:40 PM  

Silly Jesus: topcon: 99 percent of the people rioting probably don't even know what the fark Youtube is, or even have access to the internet. Someone connected who has a voice (i.e. a church leader) over there is whipping these poor, uneducated golems into a frenzy and making them think "this movie I'm telling you about is really popular with all Americans, and this is what they all believe."

The leaders and dictators of these countries don't want the unwashed masses educated because it doesn't serve their wackier-than-fundies religion to be so. I swear if we had the money to drop hundreds of thousands of solar powered, hand crank, computers with satellite internet onto poor areas, we might have a chance of getting these savages to change. Of course, the government would try to destroy them with the penalty of death if you keep them, but some would stick around and maybe forment some new ideas.

The majority of the 9/11 hijackers were college educated and middle to upper class. Try again.


Good thing I wasn't talking about 9/11 hijackers.
 
2012-09-11 09:44:58 PM  

Gooseycheeks: evoke: Oh my god this is farking laughable. No farking way this statement could've been made under Bush, from http://egypt.usembassy.gov/pr091112.html :

"The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims - as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Today, the 11th anniversary of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States, Americans are honoring our patriots and those who serve our nation as the fitting response to the enemies of democracy. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others"

Appalling. How can an American - any American - make a statement like that? What the fark.

Seriously that's what I thought as well. The reason for freedom of speech is to protect offensive speech. If everyone agreed with what was being said it wouldn't need protection.

A better response would have been something along the lines of "While we don't always agree with what someone has to say, the freedom of speech is an important component to our society that we will not compromise every time a bunch of savages throw a fit."


I get a feeling some speech writer is about to get their ass handed to them tonight, and a new press release will be issued that puts things more into perspective.
 
2012-09-11 09:45:04 PM  

Gooseycheeks: WhyteRaven74: MoeSzyslak: In their liberal pc kool-aid guzzling minds anything minorities do good or bad is a direct result of something white people did because apparently minorities are incapable of independent thought and action.

I dunno, propping up dictators, refusing to help those in need, those are things that are going to make people really not like you. And keep on not liking you long after those dictators are gone.

Koalacaust: shiatty film being screened on the other side of the planet.

The film isn't really the problem, it's at most a catalyst. The problem is about 60 years of US foreign policy.

I'd say it's a problem with their culture, not US policy. They are too quick to violence, and too quick to be offended into violence. Take the U.S. out of the equation and there's still plenty of examples of these ass backwards people that can't integrate into modern society. Heck, they can't even integrate with each other.


I have to agree with you here. While the US's foreign policy in the Middle East has been admittedly abysmal and needs serious re-evaluation (GTFO of there, I say), there are many other regions of the globe which have been given the shaft / invaded by greater powers, and your rarely see any sort of violence on the level of what you find in Muslim countries. Where are the violent protests and suicide bombings in Buddhist, Hindu, or Christian countries that have been oppressed?

I'm not saying bad foreign policy and blowback do not play a role (they do), but fundamentalist Islamic ideology poses a unique problem.
 
2012-09-11 09:45:21 PM  

Marine1: We're in the business of appeasement now.


Would you prefer we were still in the business of overthrowing governments to install leaders we approved of and propping up dictators simply for some nebulous goals while they kill their own citizens? Cause that never had any negative consequences...I mean just look at Iraq and Iran...on second thought...
 
2012-09-11 09:45:30 PM  

Phil Moskowitz: like you assholes haven't earned this in spades. You deserve far worse.

 
2012-09-11 09:46:31 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Why not? How is directly antagonizing a group of individuals without regard for the consequences (consequences which led to a fellow American being killed) NOT criminal recklessness or inciting a riot?


Because these particular individuals riot at damn near anything or even a false rumor of damn near anything, so fark them.
 
2012-09-11 09:46:34 PM  

Koalacaust: Where are the violent protests and suicide bombings in Buddhist, Hindu, or Christian countries that have been oppressed?


Your knowledge of 20th century India and Sri Lanka could use some work.
 
2012-09-11 09:47:09 PM  

Nabb1: Phil Moskowitz: like you assholes haven't earned this in spades. You deserve far worse.


Whoopsie.

i2.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-11 09:47:53 PM  

Marine1: And I agree that you don't have to be atheistic to be authoritarian. However, that's just reinforcing my point... people use whatever they want to be crazy. Some use religion, some use economics, some use politics, and in the SEC, they use football. All of this talk in this thread (and countless others on Fark) of how if we just got rid of the religious, the world would be this farking utopia... it's bunk. There have been plenty of atheist societies on the other side of the fence, and plenty of right decent theist societies as well. There's no correlation. No matter what the Dawkins and the Hitchens characters of the world want to tell people, there just isn't. People are assholes and then use something to back that up. In the case of the last 30 years with the Middle East, it's been religion, but it's far from the only reason and eliminating religion isn't going to give you this wonderful place dominated by reason and peace.


My perspective is that religion is just another way to divide people against one another. Other popular tools are race, ethnicity, nationality, or wealth. Religion has been a major source of conflict because of the desire to convert others. Other dividers are far more likely to create insular groups (think of the ethnic communities in the US throughout the 19/20th centuries). Religions like to go on crusades. Both figuratively or literally. In the US, religious groups are constantly trying to insert their religious views in the law books.
 
2012-09-11 09:48:10 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: topcon: WhyteRaven74: notShryke: You're reasoning is simply excusing any and all violence against US citizens from Islam. Just be honest and say so.

And if we all foam at the mouth condemning an entire religion, what good does that do? What does that gain us?

Christianity is about two levels less wacky than Islam is, yet you're not defending it when it's constantly derided here, are you?

What's the far left's fascination with Islam, anyway? Why are you so intent on constantly defending it when it's very clearly even kookier (in practice, not on paper) than the popular religions of this country?

They are afraid of them


Yes, because it is the left running around hysterically asking when were going to bomb them (all of them, because they're all the same) into a parking lot. Even your mighty Ronald Reagan kept his head when the embassy was bombed in Lebanon.Today's right wing pisses their pants at least once a week.
 
2012-09-11 09:48:58 PM  

Gulper Eel: Because these particular individuals riot at damn near anything or even a false rumor of damn near anything, so fark them.


Actually the ones in Libya don't. Nor really do the Egyptians. The Libyans are likely just upset at a potential smear job that attempts to point all Muslims as alike. Really from the looks of things, this isn't about Islam so much as not defining all Muslims as the same. Then again many Americans think anyone who speaks Arabic is an Arab, so that's a long road to hoe with Americans.
 
2012-09-11 09:49:21 PM  

WhyteRaven74: Marine1: We're in the business of appeasement now.

Would you prefer we were still in the business of overthrowing governments to install leaders we approved of and propping up dictators simply for some nebulous goals while they kill their own citizens? Cause that never had any negative consequences...I mean just look at Iraq and Iran...on second thought...


No. I'd rather we said the following (copypasta from my earlier post in this thread):

"The right to free speech is a cornerstone of democracy in all societies and is to be respected by all peoples. With this in mind, the United States government would like to remind the protesters that it was in no way affiliated with the production, distribution, or conception of the offending materials. The government of the United States would also like to state that it has sovereignty over all consulates and embassies and that the US Marines stationed in these locations have been authorized to use deadly force to defend the facilities."

No threat of invasion, no ass-kissing, just plain statement of facts. Someone has now died in these embassy attacks, and any further protests near or on the grounds of American embassies and consulates need to be seen as direct threats to those on the premises.
 
2012-09-11 09:50:17 PM  

madgonad: Bhasayate: Vietnam is a Buddhist country. I'm utterly unsurprised that most of them do not believe in God.

No, it isn't.

The majority of Vietnamese people classify themselves as non-religious, although they visit religious temples several times every year.  

They treat temple the same way the Swedes treat church. They go on holidays, but don't believe. A lot like me.


Read this for an interesting rebuttal to your no it isn't:
Still it's clear that Vietnam is a predominantly Buddhist country in both religion and culture and it has been for most of known recorded history

And

Vietnamese Buddhism has a long history of more than 2000 years.

Yeah, yeah, I read a stat that says 80% of them say "no religion", but depending on the question is asked, many Buddhists may say they don't have any religion. There are very, very many ways of being Buddhist. It's not like you need to be on the Church roster or be a member of anything to be a Buddhist, etc., etc.
 
2012-09-11 09:50:29 PM  
So does anyone have a link to the video that kicked this whole thing off?
 
2012-09-11 09:51:46 PM  

ha-ha-guy: Dear Middle East,
So yeah, we have our nutcases and well a lot of them do and say offensive things. Things that end up going global since unlike your shiatty little third world hellhole pretty much everyone over here has a smart phone with a video camera and easy access to uncensored TCP/IP.

Now you may have just noticed I insulted your country. Why you ask? Because you really are a shiatstain third world hellhole filled with people who kill diplomats over 90 minutes worth of .mp4 encoded footage. It doesn't say nice things about you. What it really says is that the people who installed Saddam and those of his ilk might have actually had a farking clue. I don't recall many embassies getting stormed in Baathist Iraq. That is says that if an Arab Spring does happen in Saudi Arabia, maybe it is actually in our best interests to back the House of Saud. Maybe we do want a military dictatorship in Egypt.

You see where this is going right? When you're going to storm multiple embassies on the anniversary of 9/11 and kill Americans, it tells us we don't want you enfranchised. We actually might want to rethink the idea of you having political power, a say in how your country is run, and all that. Maybe we do need to install puppet leadership and have an American trained army make the streets run red with your blood.

Because at the end of the day, if the second item on your agenda of social empowered is "fark with America", then we have every reason out there to want to fark with your agenda and make sure your skulls are the ones that get cracked,

Oh and for farks sake, the Dutch are the ones making the movie. Get a clue.

-Love,
At Least Part of America


The part that still wants to have anything at all to do with you.
 
2012-09-11 09:52:06 PM  

Marine1: With this in mind, the United States government would like to remind the protesters that it was in no way affiliated with the production, distribution, or conception of the offending materials.


I suspect the protestors know that.
 
2012-09-11 09:53:07 PM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Marine1: //that will certainly help the situation

You know what definitely hasn't helped the situation? For about 10,000 years?

Pretending people who believe in magic aren't completely out of their farking minds. Maybe it's time we try something different.


Should we have locked up Martin Luther King in a mental institution?

I think you're the delusional one.
 
2012-09-11 09:53:07 PM  

WhyteRaven74: Actually the ones in Libya don't. Nor really do the Egyptians.


You might want to run that second bit by Lara Logan.
 
2012-09-11 09:53:09 PM  

WhyteRaven74: Marine1: With this in mind, the United States government would like to remind the protesters that it was in no way affiliated with the production, distribution, or conception of the offending materials.

I suspect the protestors know that.


They sure as fark aren't acting like it, then.
 
2012-09-11 09:54:03 PM  

make me some tea: OBVIOUSLY Pastor Terry Jones did not kill anyone, but he is beating the hornet's nest. He did not have to do that. He already saw the reaction from his Koran-burning stunt. A rational person would realize the implications of his actions and not do that again. The Middle East is a farking powder keg more than it's ever been. WE DID NOT NEED THIS NOW


Perfect example of moral ignorance.
 
2012-09-11 09:54:23 PM  
They must have some pretty harsh bath salts in the Islamic world.
 
2012-09-11 09:55:16 PM  

Marine1: Gooseycheeks: evoke: Oh my god this is farking laughable. No farking way this statement could've been made under Bush, from http://egypt.usembassy.gov/pr091112.html :

"The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims - as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Today, the 11th anniversary of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States, Americans are honoring our patriots and those who serve our nation as the fitting response to the enemies of democracy. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others"

Appalling. How can an American - any American - make a statement like that? What the fark.

Seriously that's what I thought as well. The reason for freedom of speech is to protect offensive speech. If everyone agreed with what was being said it wouldn't need protection.

A better response would have been something along the lines of "While we don't always agree with what someone has to say, the freedom of speech is an important component to our society that we will not compromise every time a bunch of savages throw a fit."

We're in the business of appeasement now.

/farking disgraceful
//if I were a veteran, I'd be fuming at the State Department now.


Let's see them try to backtrack THAT stupid post.

And to post that shiat ON 9/11. WTF

Someone's gonna get thrown under the bus and/or fired.
 
2012-09-11 09:55:26 PM  

SandMann: They must have some pretty harsh bath salts in the Islamic world.


islam is far more dangerous to the mind than bath salts
 
2012-09-11 09:55:31 PM  
I thought they only rioted after Friday prayers.
 
2012-09-11 09:55:37 PM  

topcon: WhyteRaven74: notShryke: You're reasoning is simply excusing any and all violence against US citizens from Islam. Just be honest and say so.

And if we all foam at the mouth condemning an entire religion, what good does that do? What does that gain us?

Christianity is about two levels less wacky than Islam is, yet you're not defending it when it's constantly derided here, are you?

What's the far left's fascination with Islam, anyway? Why are you so intent on constantly defending it when it's very clearly even kookier (in practice, not on paper) than the popular religions of this country?


Some Christianity is two levels less wacky than some Islam. Check your brush size, man.
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2012-09-11 09:55:40 PM  
For those who haven't already guessed- this was a film produced by a coptic cristian in Egypt. He's known for being a religious irritant. Stop pointing fingers at the US like we are actually responsible for this dumb ass move.

And US: quit apologizing for this dumbass. Let the government of Egypt apologise for the stupidity of its own dumb citizens.
 
2012-09-11 09:55:41 PM  

shastacola: tenpoundsofcheese: topcon: WhyteRaven74: notShryke: You're reasoning is simply excusing any and all violence against US citizens from Islam. Just be honest and say so.

And if we all foam at the mouth condemning an entire religion, what good does that do? What does that gain us?

Christianity is about two levels less wacky than Islam is, yet you're not defending it when it's constantly derided here, are you?

What's the far left's fascination with Islam, anyway? Why are you so intent on constantly defending it when it's very clearly even kookier (in practice, not on paper) than the popular religions of this country?

They are afraid of them

Yes, because it is the left running around hysterically asking when were going to bomb them (all of them, because they're all the same) into a parking lot. Even your mighty Ronald Reagan kept his head when the embassy was bombed in Lebanon.Today's right wing pisses their pants at least once a week.


One of the better comments in the thread. And while I do not agree with the GOP, Reagan was not a pussy, and if a threat would have been levied he would have been balls to the wall despite his grooming as a GOP spoke person.

Bush should have hit the red button...
 
2012-09-11 09:56:07 PM  

Marine1: "The right to free speech is a cornerstone of democracy in all societies and is to be respected by all peoples. With this in mind, the United States government would like to remind the protesters that it was in no way affiliated with the production, distribution, or conception of the offending materials. The government of the United States would also like to state that it has sovereignty over all consulates and embassies and that the US Marines stationed in these locations have been authorized to use deadly force to defend the facilitie


just wanted to say THIS
 
2012-09-11 09:56:19 PM  
i48.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-11 09:56:30 PM  
From tha Al-J link:

"Sam Bacile, an American citizen who said he produced, directed and wrote the two-hour film, said he had not anticipated such a furious reaction."

So why are all y'all kicking Terry Jones wang in the dirt?
Not that he doesn't deserve said wang kicking....

But ...
 
2012-09-11 09:56:41 PM  
Just reading between the mint tea leaves, I'd say all these folks want us to do is to just get the hell of THEIR property. We really should oblige. Then, when they're all done shredding themselves, we could always check back after the dust settles.
 
2012-09-11 09:57:02 PM  

madgonad: I am NOT apologizing for the mob! However, this is the exact response that the movie screeners were trying to inspire.


At the very least, you seem to be claiming that the people who made this movie should have anticipated the violent reaction of Muslims (you actually imply that this was the desired reaction!) and thus should have never made the film in the first place. This is exactly like telling a rape victim that she shouldn't have dressed provocatively because she should have known that she was likely to get raped if she did. In fact, because she was dressing that way, she must have wanted it all along!

Free speech is free speech. I should be able to say what I want about someone's system of beliefs and not have to worry about being abducted or killed in the street because I "hurt someone's religious feelings", as the US government puts it.
 
2012-09-11 09:57:02 PM  

stampylives: dickbag pastor terry is to all americans as dickbags who stormed embassies are to all egyptians/libyans.

if its right to kill everyone in cairo and benghazi because these assholes acted like assholes, its right to kill everyone in florida because pastor terry is an asshole.


Yes?
 
2012-09-11 09:57:22 PM  

Gulper Eel: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Why not? How is directly antagonizing a group of individuals without regard for the consequences (consequences which led to a fellow American being killed) NOT criminal recklessness or inciting a riot?

Because these particular individuals riot at damn near anything or even a false rumor of damn near anything, so fark them.


Wouldn't a history of rioting and over-reacting be evidence to CONVICT the idiot for blowing his AWing load?

I'm not excusing the savagery from the Muslims. This was barbaric, and the bastards should face the consequences as well. But getting into a screaming match with a toddler does not speak well for the non-toddler.
 
2012-09-11 09:57:22 PM  

Bhasayate: Yeah, yeah, I read a stat that says 80% of them say "no religion", but depending on the question is asked, many Buddhists may say they don't have any religion. There are very, very many ways of being Buddhist. It's not like you need to be on the Church roster or be a member of anything to be a Buddhist, etc., etc.


They are just like Sweden. Remember, Sweden has a STATE RELIGION. Public money actually goes to the church. There are plenty of churches there and long religious history. The population just doesn't believe in the nonsense any more. It is a good thing. Vietnam has rejected faith as well. The opiate of the masses just isn't necessary any more. People have found a way to be happy and not fear death all on their own now. Imagine what the world will look like in another 100 years.
 
2012-09-11 09:57:35 PM  

Marine1: WhyteRaven74: Marine1: With this in mind, the United States government would like to remind the protesters that it was in no way affiliated with the production, distribution, or conception of the offending materials.

I suspect the protestors know that.

They sure as fark aren't acting like it, then.


The average political awareness of a protester over there is "Hey, free stuff" at this point. Fragging the guy who just wants a lightly used Maytag and making him into a martyr is a bad strategic move. That being said there a number of shiathead operatives who incited the mob, and the CIA better do its job. I want to see an abnormally high number of drone strikes during the month of October and some Libyans found floating around in the Med under suspicious circumstances.

/be smart in how you get your revenge
 
2012-09-11 09:57:42 PM  

Marine1: We're in the business of appeasement now.


You do realize that saying the opposite of reality is not convincing, right?
 
2012-09-11 09:57:47 PM  

Marine1: WhyteRaven74: Marine1: With this in mind, the United States government would like to remind the protesters that it was in no way affiliated with the production, distribution, or conception of the offending materials.

I suspect the protestors know that.

They sure as fark aren't acting like it, then.


They're a crazy mob. They are gonna rant and rage and burn shiat and stuff.
 
2012-09-11 09:58:12 PM  
Yeah, most of you are too interested in the blame game for now.
 
2012-09-11 09:59:30 PM  
Damn these people are easy to troll. We need to find a way to use this to our advantage.
 
2012-09-11 10:00:47 PM  

Gulper Eel: evoke: Appalling. How can an American - any American - make a statement like that? What the fark.

It's so crammed with eager-not-to-offend diplo-speak I have to wonder whether somebody bothered to run the copy by at least Hillary. Anybody know how the diplomatic chain works in a situation like this?

And if the White House did okay that smarmy line of nevillechamberlainity, Obama just made Jimmy Carter look like Patton.


It appears to be a statement that was made and released by the Embassy in Cairo... I presume in reference to the protests there. (And they are probably allowed to release their own statements at the Diplomat level without clearing it through the higher ups as long as they use that standard cut-and-paste language.)

I'm willing to bet the powers in Libya weren't in any position to say anything.

I'm wondering if Secretary Clinton is waiting to see how the dust settles in Libya before saying anything official..... If there are still forces there waiting to defend the compound, things may get a lot more messy before they get better.
 
2012-09-11 10:01:02 PM  

fusillade762: Damn these people are easy to troll. We need to find a way to use this to our advantage.


Supposedly we saw this coming and the Egyptian embassy was actually empty by the time this went down. We could just be pricks next time and play the game "Fun with Landmines, Tiger Pits, and Punji Stakes".
 
2012-09-11 10:01:08 PM  

Marine1: WhyteRaven74: Marine1: We're in the business of appeasement now.

Would you prefer we were still in the business of overthrowing governments to install leaders we approved of and propping up dictators simply for some nebulous goals while they kill their own citizens? Cause that never had any negative consequences...I mean just look at Iraq and Iran...on second thought...

No. I'd rather we said the following (copypasta from my earlier post in this thread):

"The right to free speech is a cornerstone of democracy in all societies and is to be respected by all peoples. With this in mind, the United States government would like to remind the protesters that it was in no way affiliated with the production, distribution, or conception of the offending materials. The government of the United States would also like to state that it has sovereignty over all consulates and embassies and that the US Marines stationed in these locations have been authorized to use deadly force to defend the facilities."

No threat of invasion, no ass-kissing, just plain statement of facts. Someone has now died in these embassy attacks, and any further protests near or on the grounds of American embassies and consulates need to be seen as direct threats to those on the premises.


McCain tomorrow. You know it's true:
"Why isn't Obama invading?"

or

"Why is Obama invading?"
 
2012-09-11 10:02:24 PM  

madgonad: Bhasayate: Yeah, yeah, I read a stat that says 80% of them say "no religion", but depending on the question is asked, many Buddhists may say they don't have any religion. There are very, very many ways of being Buddhist. It's not like you need to be on the Church roster or be a member of anything to be a Buddhist, etc., etc.

They are just like Sweden. Remember, Sweden has a STATE RELIGION. Public money actually goes to the church. There are plenty of churches there and long religious history. The population just doesn't believe in the nonsense any more. It is a good thing. Vietnam has rejected faith as well. The opiate of the masses just isn't necessary any more. People have found a way to be happy and not fear death all on their own now. Imagine what the world will look like in another 100 years.


I think we have a basic misunderstanding about just how minimalistic being Buddhist is, how little it requires of one in terms of "faith."

People have found a way to be happy and not fear death all on their own now.

This is a core teaching of Buddhism, actually.

I suspect that if you asked them, most Vietnamese would say "Yes, I think the Four Noble Truths are true." You don't need faith -- i.e., "other power" -- to follow the Eight Fold Path.

Again, I'm afraid we may be talking past each other here....
 
2012-09-11 10:04:35 PM  

djkutch: Marine1: WhyteRaven74: Marine1: We're in the business of appeasement now.

Would you prefer we were still in the business of overthrowing governments to install leaders we approved of and propping up dictators simply for some nebulous goals while they kill their own citizens? Cause that never had any negative consequences...I mean just look at Iraq and Iran...on second thought...

No. I'd rather we said the following (copypasta from my earlier post in this thread):

"The right to free speech is a cornerstone of democracy in all societies and is to be respected by all peoples. With this in mind, the United States government would like to remind the protesters that it was in no way affiliated with the production, distribution, or conception of the offending materials. The government of the United States would also like to state that it has sovereignty over all consulates and embassies and that the US Marines stationed in these locations have been authorized to use deadly force to defend the facilities."

No threat of invasion, no ass-kissing, just plain statement of facts. Someone has now died in these embassy attacks, and any further protests near or on the grounds of American embassies and consulates need to be seen as direct threats to those on the premises.

McCain tomorrow. You know it's true:
"Why isn't Obama invading?"

or

"Why is Obama invading?"


That doesn't have to be the solution. Just tell them what I said. A plain statement of truths. We don't want to hurt them, but if they storm another embassy, we will, because we're not fools who think that dying is some sort of victory that requires deep thought to comprehend. We only need to speak softly and carry a big stick at those embassies... tell the truth, and back it up with some US Marines if need be.
 
2012-09-11 10:04:36 PM  

Bhasayate: They're a crazy mob. They are gonna rant and rage and burn shiat and stuff.


so when people in whatever city loot, pillage and burn because their basketball team won the championship you shrug them off? Or if they are in your city, do you put on your Lakers hat? Don't you see THEY are the problem, not the movie?
 
2012-09-11 10:04:40 PM  

dr_blasto: topcon: WhyteRaven74: notShryke: You're reasoning is simply excusing any and all violence against US citizens from Islam. Just be honest and say so.

And if we all foam at the mouth condemning an entire religion, what good does that do? What does that gain us?

Christianity is about two levels less wacky than Islam is, yet you're not defending it when it's constantly derided here, are you?

What's the far left's fascination with Islam, anyway? Why are you so intent on constantly defending it when it's very clearly even kookier (in practice, not on paper) than the popular religions of this country?

Some Christianity is two levels less wacky than some Islam. Check your brush size, man.
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Snake handlers and their ilk probably make up less than 1% (I'm being generous here) of the Christian population but are far more fascinating and get far more publicity than your average, run of the mill pasteur ruminating the virtue of family togetherness during the holidays for twenty minutes at a time. Think of them as the PETA version of liberalism.
 
2012-09-11 10:04:48 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Why not? How is directly antagonizing a group of individuals without regard for the consequences (consequences which led to a fellow American being killed) NOT criminal recklessness or inciting a riot? How is it any different from standing on a street corner calling people wearing bowler hats inhuman filth, and then someone listens to your words and kills a person wearing a bowler hat?


Mr. Bacile is a Californian Jewish film maker, so odds are he lives in the greater LA area.

Both Sheriff Baca and Chief Beck appear to be on the record as supporting the enforcement of Sharia by US Law Enforcement, so one can resume he actually will be charged for criminal recklessness, felony murder, or just plain heresy.
 
2012-09-11 10:04:56 PM  

Bhasayate: People have found a way to be happy and not fear death all on their own now.


To be fair, I think that is a fine definition of religion.
 
2012-09-11 10:06:01 PM  
Now we definitely need to elect Romney and Ryan. Those guys have a ton of foreign policy experience and no doubt know exactly how to handle this.
 
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