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(Washington Post)   One would think university students who voluntarily enrolled in a feminist anthropology class would not be bothered when the professor breastfeeds her child in class. One would think... and one would be wrong   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 199
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2012-09-11 04:57:48 PM
To be fair the rules plainly state "No Food in the Classroom".
 
2012-09-11 05:02:56 PM
So Pine brought her sick baby to class.

She should have cancelled that day's class.
 
2012-09-11 05:05:26 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: So Pine brought her sick baby to class.

She should have cancelled that day's class.


She had an assistant that could care for her precious crotchfruit. She couldn't trust her class to this person for the next hour, or so?
 
2012-09-11 05:06:40 PM
I wouldn't have had a problem with her, except for her coming down like such a jackwagon on the student paper. Her rant is unjustifiable.
 
2012-09-11 05:10:21 PM
Wow, am I really the only one who thinks the student who whined should have gotten a zero for the day for being a whiny little biatch?

I had both high school teachers and college professors, male and female, occasionally bring a very small child to class. It caused no disruptions at all. Some people just bend over backwards to find something to complain about.
 
2012-09-11 05:12:09 PM
I'm going to need to see a pic of the offending breast before I can weigh in

/after a GIS, she's more of a "maybe after 5 beers" kinda gal
 
2012-09-11 05:12:43 PM
If you enroll in a feminist anthropology class, and the professor breastfeeds her child in class - it's a pop quiz.
 
2012-09-11 05:26:26 PM

BunkyBrewman: The My Little Pony Killer: So Pine brought her sick baby to class.

She should have cancelled that day's class.

She had an assistant that could care for her precious crotchfruit. She couldn't trust her class to this person for the next hour, or so?


It was the first class of the semester. I can understand the pressure. You wouldn't want to call in sick on the day you're supposed to start a big project, would you?
 
2012-09-11 05:40:38 PM

FishyFred: You wouldn't want to call in sick on the day you're supposed to start a big project, would you?


To be fair, most professionals wouldn't bring their kid with them on a big project and proceed to breastfeed them in front of the other team members.
 
2012-09-11 05:49:09 PM

Lunaville: Wow, am I really the only one who thinks the student who whined should have gotten a zero for the day for being a whiny little biatch?

I had both high school teachers and college professors, male and female, occasionally bring a very small child to class. It caused no disruptions at all. Some people just bend over backwards to find something to complain about.


Slight difference here. From TFA: The baby, in a blue onesie, crawled on the floor when she wasn't strapped onto Pine's back. The mother extracted a paper clip from the girl's mouth at one point and shooed her away from an electrical outlet. When the baby grew restless during the 75-minute afternoon session with 40 students, according to the professor's account, Pine breast-fed her while continuing to lecture and review the syllabus. A teaching assistant also held and rocked the child.
 
2012-09-11 06:02:24 PM

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Lunaville: Wow, am I really the only one who thinks the student who whined should have gotten a zero for the day for being a whiny little biatch?

I had both high school teachers and college professors, male and female, occasionally bring a very small child to class. It caused no disruptions at all. Some people just bend over backwards to find something to complain about.

Slight difference here. From TFA: The baby, in a blue onesie, crawled on the floor when she wasn't strapped onto Pine's back. The mother extracted a paper clip from the girl's mouth at one point and shooed her away from an electrical outlet. When the baby grew restless during the 75-minute afternoon session with 40 students, according to the professor's account, Pine breast-fed her while continuing to lecture and review the syllabus. A teaching assistant also held and rocked the child.


Theres also the whole "The kid is sick, and should be at home recovering and being doted on" aspect to it. She had the option to take the day off to care for her child. Instead, she decided that a college campus would be the best place to take a sick child and let it eat things off the floor.
 
2012-09-11 06:09:08 PM
Anyone stupid enough to pay for a class on the subject, deserve a teacher such this one.
 
2012-09-11 06:14:57 PM
Baby is sick, so let it crawl around on a no-doubt perfectly sterile classroom floor, chewing on a paper clip and exploring electrical outlet.

First day of class consisted mainly of reviewing syllabus, something a TA could do.

"I've nothing to be ashamed of, but please don't use my name in your article."

"News" is not what the whole campus is talking about.

Translation: I realize I was an idiot, so I'm going on the attack.
 
2012-09-11 08:12:18 PM
I wouldn't care about her breastfeeding so much as that she brought a sick child to class. Last thing students need is a teacher purposely exposing the class to some virus.

/if the illness was noncontagious then the above is moot
 
2012-09-11 08:15:47 PM
This is a clear case of "everyone calm the f*ck down".
 
2012-09-11 08:17:29 PM
Read this in Brian, from the family guy's voice:

"Excuse me? Is this where I sign up for the Misandry class?
I was told it was being held by a professor. One Miss. Andry?
The one who had a sex change and now wants to munch balls?

No?

Then could you direct me to the table where they take donations for the men abused by the psycho coonts they accidentally married before the got all stabby and penis cutty and bunny boiling women's shelter?

Don't have one of those, do you?

Well, then, could you possible take this writ, and this summons, and this subpena?

Thank you very much

farking coonts"
 
2012-09-11 08:19:57 PM
Oh, and before I get spit on,
I get it.
You have different plumbing.

Shouldn't effect your brain, though.
 
2012-09-11 08:20:08 PM

TheDumbBlonde: Anyone stupid enough to pay for a class on the subject, deserve a teacher such this one.


True. Biatches should know there place. Why this woman is working in a professional capacity instead of in the kitchen is a mystery.
 
2012-09-11 08:20:11 PM
Her only error was in not doing it as being integral to the day's lecture. Feminist anthropology you say? Breastfeeding seems pretty farking relevent to me. Talk about a great opportunity to address an undeserving taboo relating directly to the intersection of gender roles and biology....
 
2012-09-11 08:24:23 PM

coco ebert: This is a clear case of "everyone calm the f*ck down".


And that, however it could be a case of THIS

Seriously.
AWing. Will they ever get over it?
No. They will meet a meal ticket in school and marry him and emasculate him and milk him dry of everything but semen and then cast off the shell of a human and find an older, wealthier, meal ticket*.

*see also ATM
 
2012-09-11 08:25:16 PM

doyner: Her only error was in not doing it as being integral to the day's lecture. Feminist anthropology you say? Breastfeeding seems pretty farking relevent to me. Talk about a great opportunity to address an undeserving taboo relating directly to the intersection of gender roles and biology....


She failed to see the teaching point.
 
2012-09-11 08:33:02 PM
One morning about 13 years ago, I had to choose whether to cancel the class was adjuncting (newsflash -- departments don't tend to rehire adjuncts who cancel class, especially for 90 students) or take my two-year-old to class with me.

I took him. Sat him right on the edge of the lectern/desk, held him steady with one hand and moused through my PowerPoint with the other. Other than a couple of the female students squeeing a bit when I introduced him, nobody said a goddamn word. I suppose if I'd whipped out my hairy moobs and tried to nurse him it might have been different, or if it had been more recent and Facebook/Twitter existed someone might have biatched, but you do what you have to do. I took my kids to class another time when they were 4 and 8 because Mrs. Love Zombie had an evening course she was covering and we couldn't do the trade-off thing that we usually did in a two-professor household. Again, no issues, no complaints.

Oh, and I've had students bring their kids to class as well when they couldn't get daycare. Considering the classes I teach (criminology) I did have to self-edit one time. It felt like the scene in High Anxiety (pee-pee envy).

Seriously, people need to chill.
 
2012-09-11 08:35:00 PM

djkutch: TheDumbBlonde: Anyone stupid enough to pay for a class on the subject, deserve a teacher such this one.

True. Biatches should know there they're place. Why this woman is working in a professional capacity instead of in the kitchen is a mystery.


/pet peave
 
2012-09-11 08:35:16 PM
I was always told that you should have enough to share with the whole class.
 
2012-09-11 08:37:22 PM

dahmers love zombie: Mrs. Love Zombie had an evening course


I think I saw that flick once. Weird, but still fappable.
 
2012-09-11 08:40:49 PM

doyner: dahmers love zombie: Mrs. Love Zombie had an evening course

I think I saw that flick once. Weird, but still fappable.


Oh, you have NO idea. I definitely married above myself.

/no, you can not has pics
 
2012-09-11 08:42:24 PM

dahmers love zombie: djkutch: TheDumbBlonde: Anyone stupid enough to pay for a class on the subject, deserve a teacher such this one.

True. Biatches should know there they're place. Why this woman is working in a professional capacity instead of in the kitchen is a mystery.

/pet peave


I had a female prof for English 101.
 
2012-09-11 08:44:13 PM

vudukungfu: coco ebert: This is a clear case of "everyone calm the f*ck down".

And that, however it could be a case of THIS

Seriously.
AWing. Will they ever get over it?
No. They will meet a meal ticket in school and marry him and emasculate him and milk him dry of everything but semen and then cast off the shell of a human and find an older, wealthier, meal ticket*.

*see also ATM


o_O
 
2012-09-11 08:49:41 PM

coco ebert: o_O


I teach English to migrants.
Bonus points for sharing recipes.
 
2012-09-11 08:54:00 PM

vudukungfu: coco ebert: o_O

I teach English to migrants.
Bonus points for sharing recipes.


o_O
 
2012-09-11 09:02:17 PM

vudukungfu: coco ebert: o_O

I teach English to migrants.
Bonus points for sharing recipes.


Ooh, I need bonus points.

Migrant Stew

1 haunch of migrant, 5-8 lbs.
3 stalks celery
5 carrots, peeled
2 cloves garlic
1 medium onion, chopped coarse
2 cups migrant broth

Sear haunch in large cast iron skillet with olive oil until browned on all sides (if you can find a haunch from a migrant who worked in an organic field, it tastes better). Place in Dutch Oven with celery, carrots, garlic, onion, and migrant broth. Cover and cook at 325 degrees F. for 3 to 3.5 hours or until fork-tender. Serves 8-10.

How many points do I get?
 
2012-09-11 09:11:52 PM
Most people close the door when they poop, right? Being biologically normal doesn't automatically make it socially acceptable to do in front of strangers. (That said, I personally don't care, generally, but (a) I see where some could and (b) "indiscreetly while you're doing your job" seems insensitive and selfish.)

However, I'll be ok with you bringing your sick / disease vectoring, distracting kid to work when I can bring my flawlessly obedient, vaccinated for the only disease he can give you, dog.
 
2012-09-11 09:22:41 PM
Will this be on the test?
 
*baby power spews on paperwork*
 
Um, evidently it will be on EVERYTHING.
 
2012-09-11 09:47:05 PM
I think breastfeeding in class should use the cupcake rule: if you didn't bring enough for everyone to share, you can't do it IN CLASS.
 
2012-09-11 09:54:21 PM
Not everything that is legal, or acceptable in public, is a professional thing to do in a classroom. Especially if you happen to be the instructor.
 
2012-09-11 10:20:34 PM
I fail to see a problem here. As for the student complaining, I suspect they need to grow up a bit more.
 
2012-09-11 10:38:31 PM
I'm pissed that youtube can have wimmin folk with their va jay jays shiatting out babies and breastfeeding, but zit popping videos get age restricted.
 
2012-09-11 10:39:01 PM
If your kid has a fever, no daycare will take it because it can infect the other kids. Some people don't have other people near by to take care of their young children. Temporary babysitting can be more expensive than the day of work for many, like say, assistant anthropology professors. Sometimes fever is from teething as well.

They should have just let her take the day off. There is no point infecting the students with something that daycare won't take. That's a total fail, on one hand they don't get more sick leave than an unchilded person but on the other they can bring sick kids into crowded locations with no problem, because they have no other choices.

As for the breastfeeding complaint, grow the fark up.
 
2012-09-11 10:44:52 PM

dahmers love zombie: How many points do I get?


2.
Your mirepoix forgot the carrots.
Even Bugs Bunny would remember the carrots.
 
2012-09-11 11:08:03 PM
QFT: The acceptability of the act is entirely dependent upon the hotness of the mother.
 
2012-09-11 11:18:41 PM
As others have pointed out, the breastfeeding is a side issue. Prof was an idiot to bring her baby to class, let it wander around on the floor and try to teach while parenting. Complaining is hardly an 'anti-woman' move, if a male professor brought his kid to class and did this, the students might call child protective services on him.

/also, breastfeeding in front of your class is unnecessary. Why even chance that you're going to make someone uncomfortable. It's easy to take a five minute break and do what you have to do
 
2012-09-11 11:19:26 PM
While I have several problems with how she handled things the beast feeding wasn't one of them.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2012-09-11 11:21:36 PM

stuffy: While I have several problems with how she handled things the beast feeding wasn't one of them.


encrypted-tbn2.google.com
/likes where this is going
 
2012-09-11 11:23:04 PM
vudukungfu


Whatever you are smoking. Keep it to yourself.
 
2012-09-11 11:23:11 PM
Since breastfeeding is natural and so are erections,and masturbation, then she shouldnt mind next time when I watch her with my natural eyes and naturally masturbate to her breastfeeding.
 
2012-09-11 11:23:27 PM
I wouldn't have gave a single fark if one of my female professor breast feed their child in class, however what does bother me is the fact this woman brought in a sick child which means she could have either spread whatever the kid had to her students or worse you brought a child with a weaken immune system to a classroom full of college students who aren't normally the pillar of good heath.
 
2012-09-11 11:23:27 PM

BravadoGT: QFT: The acceptability of the act is entirely dependent upon the hotness of the mother.

 
2012-09-11 11:23:39 PM
This story is a whole lot less about outrage over public breast feeding than it is about outrage over a truly terrible professor.
 
2012-09-11 11:23:41 PM
OK, firstly, the students are not upset because you're exposing a breast in the classroom. They're upset because they're paying for a proper lecture and you're just wandering around half-assing while you watch your kid. The "this isn't high school, jackass" principle works both ways: while students are expected to gird up their big-boy pants and behave like they've paid for information in the classroom and be respectful to the other students by not being a jackoff, the instructors also have a responsibility to actually provide the content the students are paying for and not waste their time by doing personal errands when they're supposed to be focused.

Secondly, bringing a sick kid into a crowded lecture hall is a good way to make everyone sick. Hell, given how close-packed most universities are, bringing a healthy kid into a lecture hall is a good way to make the baby sick. Most of the students get flu shots specifically to avoid that shiat vectoring to your baby (flu doesn't mean shiat to an 18-20 year old, they have worse in hangovers every monday morning). Don't screw that effort up by bringing the little plague-susceptible germ culture into direct (aerosol) contact with the general population, you utter farking moron.

Thirdly, there are basic common-sense options for dealing with a kid in a university setting. The one that bears repeating is just stay home with it. Your students would rather you just drop a lecture and readjust the other lectures than have you borderline incoherent because you're watching your kid while talking anyhow. The others are listed in the article:

The university emphasized that faculty members should take advantage of options such as sick leave, break times and private areas for nursing mothers to express milk so they can "maintain a focus on professional responsibilities in the classroom."

Christ, sometimes my fellow academics are farking idiots.

//To be fair, where their kids are concerned most people in general are farking idiots, so I'm not advocating censuring her or anything. Just, c'mon, learn basic professionalism. It's not a matter of breastfeeding, it's a matter of having the kid there in the first place that causes you to fail at professor.
 
bow
2012-09-11 11:23:45 PM
Those crazy hippies...
 
2012-09-11 11:24:20 PM
taking a shiat is natural too. I leave my desk to do that though.
 
2012-09-11 11:25:05 PM

dahmers love zombie: vudukungfu: coco ebert: o_O

I teach English to migrants.
Bonus points for sharing recipes.

Ooh, I need bonus points.

Migrant Stew

1 haunch of migrant, 5-8 lbs.
3 stalks celery
5 carrots, peeled
2 cloves garlic
1 medium onion, chopped coarse
2 cups migrant broth

Sear haunch in large cast iron skillet with olive oil until browned on all sides (if you can find a haunch from a migrant who worked in an organic field, it tastes better). Place in Dutch Oven with celery, carrots, garlic, onion, and migrant broth. Cover and cook at 325 degrees F. for 3 to 3.5 hours or until fork-tender. Serves 8-10.

How many points do I get?


13/10. Extra points for stylish name, and extra point for using the right version of coarse.
 
2012-09-11 11:25:23 PM
Clearly if the kid was crawling around and getting into paperclips and electric sockets, he wasn't that sick to begin with. Sick enough for childcare to not want him, but not sick enough to warrant constant parental care. For those of you with no kids: this happens all the time. This person was in a jam.

As for breastfeeding in class, who gives a shiat?
 
2012-09-11 11:25:59 PM
The verb "express" always seems like a weird one to use for squeezing out some boob juice. On the other hand, I can't seem to think of any verb that doesn't come across as either crude, flippant, or needlessly vague.
 
2012-09-11 11:26:34 PM

doglover: I think breastfeeding in class should use the cupcake rule: if you didn't bring enough for everyone to share, you can't do it IN CLASS.


I'd personally put it in the same category as giving a lecture while eating. It is rude, but I wouldn't cry over it.
 
2012-09-11 11:27:10 PM

poe_zlaw: Since breastfeeding is natural and so are erections,and masturbation, then she shouldnt mind next time when I watch her with my natural eyes and naturally masturbate to her breastfeeding.


Yes, because breastfeeding is a purely sexual thing.
 
2012-09-11 11:27:27 PM
This is a nothin'. The students were exposed to, like, zero germs because a sick baby was in the room, nor did they apparently see a nipple. The professor wasn't hurt by the eebil student journalists who asked hard questions, because questions aren't stories. I can't TELL you how many tough questions answered I have kept in my notebook because they weren't germane to the story.

Errbody chill.
 
2012-09-11 11:28:13 PM
Clearly she believes to have done nothing wrong. She should, of course choose here words properly, "yes I took my breast out in public, but you whiners can suck it", may exist as a poorly chosen response.
 
2012-09-11 11:28:20 PM

AKTurkey: /also, breastfeeding in front of your class is unnecessary. Why even chance that you're going to make someone uncomfortable. It's easy to take a five minute break and do what you have to do


Clearly you've never been around a breastfeeding infant. Depending on the kid, a nursing session can take between 5-30 minutes.
 
2012-09-11 11:28:29 PM
Do the students pay tuition for this class and expect it to be reasonably free from distractions? If I had to watch my dumbass professor's kid almost swallow a paperclip or electrocute itself, I'd find it more than a little distracting. Also dragging a sick kid into a room full of people is like a giant 'fark you'. As a boss I've sent people home who wanted to stay at work, just because I didn't want them getting anyone else sick.

And if my professor wanted to breastfeed in front of the class I'd walk up next to the podium, stick my hand down my jeans and vigorously scratch my junk for the remainder of the lesson. Because hey, it's a natural thing, and it shouldn't be a distraction, right?
 
2012-09-11 11:29:01 PM
This whole situation could have been avoided. The scandal is that there were no good childcare options available to her. Does American University offer childcare arrangements / a creche / something? If not, Instead of biatching at her, they should think about treating their employees who are mothers / fathers a little better.

That said, given the situation as it was, I think it's kind of gross that someone who was the focus of attention just upped and breastfed. At minimum, she could have asked if anyone had a problem with it first or just told them that she might do that (I assume she did not). it sounds, though, like she was having a pretty shiatty hectic day.
 
2012-09-11 11:29:08 PM
The only thing in the story that annoys me is that she brought her sick baby into a foreign uncomfortable environment surrounded by 40+ people the baby didn't know.

The breastfeeding thing is a non-issue for me as the baby should have been home where it could be comfortable and better able to recuperate. Plus mom could pull her nob out at any point and no fuss about it.

/I used nob for boob
//does that slang already exist or did I make that up?
//I'm hilarious.
 
2012-09-11 11:30:26 PM

doyner: poe_zlaw: Since breastfeeding is natural and so are erections,and masturbation, then she shouldnt mind next time when I watch her with my natural eyes and naturally masturbate to her breastfeeding.

Yes, because breastfeeding is a purely sexual thing.


Farting - there is nothing sexual about farting. It is, however, completely natural. Hell, EVERYONE does it, not just recent mothers. Tell me, is letting it rip in a classroom professional behavior?
 
2012-09-11 11:30:48 PM
Two points:

1. We're they allowed to stare?

2. Will they be allowed to bring their crotchfruit to class when it's inconvenient for them not to, as well?

/Can't stand professors using kids as an excuse when I have a career, 3 kids, and I'm still managing to study AND pay your ass to "teach me"
 
2012-09-11 11:32:59 PM

doyner: poe_zlaw: Since breastfeeding is natural and so are erections,and masturbation, then she shouldnt mind next time when I watch her with my natural eyes and naturally masturbate to her breastfeeding.

Yes, because breastfeeding is a purely sexual thing.


It's one of if not the most common sexual fetish, yes. Additionally, it's a major part of the natural reproductive process, so in the literal sense it is actually an entirely sexual function.

I mean, it's not directly related to copulation, but neither is masturbation. The basic drive is rooted in the subconscious desire to reproduce in both cases, too. Actually, the analogy is holding up a lot better than I thought it would, was expecting it to have broken down by now.
 
2012-09-11 11:34:51 PM

Lunaville: Wow, am I really the only one who thinks the student who whined should have gotten a zero for the day for being a whiny little biatch?

I had both high school teachers and college professors, male and female, occasionally bring a very small child to class. It caused no disruptions at all. Some people just bend over backwards to find something to complain about.


Dear Consumerist ...
 
2012-09-11 11:36:32 PM
Associate prof? Good luck getting tenure.

/tell my students not to bring kids to class, but get the notes.
 
2012-09-11 11:36:41 PM
The problems here are not easily solved. One is the daycare issue, and I know nothing about that having had my parents keep my kid his whole life whenever I needed them to. The other is breastfeeding, or specifically, breasts being sexual objects in our culture. If you whip out your boob, I'm gonna have a hard time not looking at it, and that makes me uncomfortable, just bracing myself for you getting all mad at me for looking when you are the one who pulled out your boob. Personally, I didn't breastfeed in public because I didn't want anyone to either look at my boobs, or be embarrassed about trying to look everywhere but my boobs, but hey, if that's your thing... So that's the problem we can solve by arguing on the internet, clearly, fix it so people do not want to look at boobs anymore. Simple as that. Start....now!
 
2012-09-11 11:37:54 PM
lulz


"I wasn't able to get my point across. Heather continued hounding me, as my voice became increasingly hoarse and pained. I, unfortunately, was in professor mode, too polite to tell her to go to hell. So when she asked me "do I consider the classroom a private or public space," presumably trying to bust me for doing something "private" somewhere public, I told her it was both. AU is so expensive and exclusionary, in addition to formally being a private university, that the classroom could be argued to be private; however, the ideal of the University is to be a forum where ideas can be exchanged and debated publicly, and I hoped my classroom corresponded to that model of open inquiry. But, I added, coughing, "whether it is private or public has no bearing on whether I would choose to feed a hungry child."

"When the incident occurred..." she began.

"I didn't think of it as an 'incident'," I responded, with what I'd hoped would be visible annoyance. "But obviously one of my students told you, so I guess you think it was."

She continued, "When the incident occurred, were you worried about what your students would think? Did they seem uncomfortable, did they say anything?"

I slapped my palm on my forehead in frustration...
Heather then tried to catch me on cultural insensitivity. "AU prides itself on its diversity and on having a large number of foreign students among its student body. Were you worried about what they'd think?" Exasperated, I skirted the issue of AU's lack of class and racial diversity (in Washington DC, of all places) and tried to explain that in most other societies, people don't have the kind of ridiculous Puritanical hangups that would turn a working woman breastfeeding into a newsworthy "incident."

"Since it's natural, after all, right?" She chipped in, nodding as if she got it.

I held my hands up and rolled my eyes.

She asked me if I thought the District of Columbia was doing enough to protect mothers' rights to breastfeed. I told her that not once had my right to breastfeed been called into question prior to her turning it into a story, in all the months I'd breastfed in public places in DC. I said that this could be a mark of my white privilege; perhaps if my breast were brown or black there would have been less tolerance for its partial exposure, or perhaps not. Perhaps if I appeared poorer than I do, or otherwise out-of-place, my experience would have been different."
 
2012-09-11 11:38:31 PM

BunkyBrewman: The My Little Pony Killer: So Pine brought her sick baby to class.

She should have cancelled that day's class.

She had an assistant that could care for her precious crotchfruit. She couldn't trust her class to this person for the next hour, or so?


First day of school? Well, I can understand the prof not wanting to miss that. Especially when the school is on the quarter system (as opposed to the semester system), you can't really afford to lose a day of instruction. The quarter goes by fast.

And I also understand that T.A.'s are not personal secretaries. However, if I were her T.A., I would have volunteered to watch the child for the duration of the class (e.g., in the prof's office while she was lecturing).

\physics T.A.
\\I don't have to worry too much about breastfeeding profs in my department; almost all the profs are men
 
2012-09-11 11:39:12 PM
is there a way to automatically filter out anyone who uses the word "crotchfruit?"
 
2012-09-11 11:40:23 PM

ricochet4: is there a way to automatically filter out anyone who uses the word "crotchfruit?"


alas, no. Still regarded as a witticism around these parts.
 
2012-09-11 11:40:36 PM
The sort of people that attend feminist lectures are easily angered and unreasonable? Say it isn't so....
 
2012-09-11 11:40:45 PM
Wow. So this woman is being described as "unprofessional" by students who are so immature and disrespectful they think it's totally okay to use their cellphones to tweet during class.

Nope, pretty sure the students are immature assholes.
 
2012-09-11 11:41:05 PM
bringing a crying baby into a professional environment might be just a tad...

wait for it


unprofessional.

/but breastfeeding is totally natural, so that really shouldn't be the issue. Bringing your sick child to work is inexcusable though.
 
2012-09-11 11:42:06 PM

ricochet4: is there a way to automatically filter out anyone who uses the word "crotchfruit?"


Yeah there is. It's called go fark thyself you whiney twat
 
2012-09-11 11:44:26 PM

mbillips: This is a nothin'. The students were exposed to, like, zero germs because a sick baby was in the room, nor did they apparently see a nipple. The professor wasn't hurt by the eebil student journalists who asked hard questions, because questions aren't stories. I can't TELL you how many tough questions answered I have kept in my notebook because they weren't germane to the story.

Errbody chill.


1. Your statement makes almost no sense whatsoever.
2. Your spelling and grammar are horrible.
3. Yes the students WERE exposed to germs. They were locked in the room with the baby for the length of the lesson, numbnuts.
4. You can't TELL us how many questions blah blah blah because you're pulling things out of your ass.

Shut the fu*k up.
 
2012-09-11 11:44:28 PM

ricochet4: is there a way to automatically filter out anyone who uses the word "crotchfruit?"


If we can put up with breeders demanding that all aspects of society pass their approval, I guess they can put up with the use of the word "crotchfruit".
 
2012-09-11 11:44:41 PM
Wow, what an odd first exam. Meta.
 
2012-09-11 11:45:32 PM

skullkrusher:
Farting - there is nothing sexual about farting. It is, however, completely natural. Hell, EVERYONE does it, not just recent mothers. Tell me, is letting it rip in a classroom professional behavior?


In context in a class about the gastro-intestinal system, yes.
 
2012-09-11 11:45:33 PM

gonegirl: Wow. So this woman is being described as "unprofessional" by students who are so immature and disrespectful they think it's totally okay to use their cellphones to tweet during class.

Nope, pretty sure the students are immature assholes.


A) they aren't being paid to be there, they are the customers
B) tweeting isn't distracting. Chasing your child around the room and having her swinging from a teat while you instruct is
 
2012-09-11 11:46:12 PM

doyner: skullkrusher:
Farting - there is nothing sexual about farting. It is, however, completely natural. Hell, EVERYONE does it, not just recent mothers. Tell me, is letting it rip in a classroom professional behavior?

In context in a class about the gastro-intestinal system, yes.


u troll me, I get it
 
2012-09-11 11:47:42 PM

Jim_Callahan: It's one of if not the most common sexual fetish, yes. Additionally, it's a major part of the natural reproductive process, so in the literal sense it is actually an entirely sexual function.

I mean, it's not directly related to copulation, but neither is masturbation. The basic drive is rooted in the subconscious desire to reproduce in both cases, too. Actually, the analogy is holding up a lot better than I thought it would, was expecting it to have broken down by now.


You speak from the perspective of the observer, not the two participants in the act. Mothers and infants aren't getting off on the nursing process.

And if someone is aroused, why the outrage?
 
2012-09-11 11:48:36 PM

thrgd456: bringing a crying baby into a professional environment might be just a tad...

wait for it


unprofessional.

/but breastfeeding is totally natural, so that really shouldn't be the issue. Bringing your sick child to work is inexcusable though.


Crying isn't natural?
 
2012-09-11 11:48:43 PM

Noodlette:

As for breastfeeding in a female anthropology class, who gives a shiat?


It's female anthropology; the students should have anticipated a lecture on working motherhood and possibly a live breastfeeding demonstration.  It's par for the course.
 
2012-09-11 11:49:02 PM

skullkrusher: doyner: poe_zlaw: Since breastfeeding is natural and so are erections,and masturbation, then she shouldnt mind next time when I watch her with my natural eyes and naturally masturbate to her breastfeeding.

Yes, because breastfeeding is a purely sexual thing.

Farting - there is nothing sexual about farting. It is, however, completely natural. Hell, EVERYONE does it, not just recent mothers. Tell me, is letting it rip in a classroom professional behavior?


Depends. Wet and noisy or silent?


The mother extracted a paper clip from the girl's mouth at one point and shooed her away from an electrical outlet.

They should just draw bunnies on the outlet covers.
 
2012-09-11 11:50:20 PM
I personally don't agree with women being allowed to breast feed in public. I'm not religious nor a prude, but I just think that is something to be done in private. Mom can pump her breast at home and give a bottle to the baby when they're out.

Given that this is a feminist class I'll accept the breast feeding though. I just think it shouldn't have happened in the first place. She never should have brought the kid to her class. Not only is it unprofessional, it's also disrespectful to the students.
 
2012-09-11 11:51:59 PM

skullkrusher: doyner: skullkrusher:
Farting - there is nothing sexual about farting. It is, however, completely natural. Hell, EVERYONE does it, not just recent mothers. Tell me, is letting it rip in a classroom professional behavior?

In context in a class about the gastro-intestinal system, yes.

u troll me, I get it


No troll. Take a deep breath. Put the gun down. And go get me those pretzels.
 
2012-09-11 11:53:35 PM
After a quick perusal of the syllabus, I wasn't shocked to discover that Lecture 2 was slated to have a demonstration on where the baby came from
 
2012-09-11 11:55:41 PM
Some crazy coonts think that just because they managed to procreate then every single thing they do regarding their children is always absolutely appropriate and of far greater importance than the rest of us poor slobs - including students who paid through the ass to get a decent education apparently.
 
2012-09-11 11:59:34 PM
Anyone, and I mean ANYONE who has a 'problem' with breastfeeding anywhere
is a farking sad, stupid, moronic dumbass who should try and find some beauty in the magic of life

for a change.
 
2012-09-12 12:00:25 AM

Jim_Callahan: doyner: poe_zlaw: Since breastfeeding is natural and so are erections,and masturbation, then she shouldnt mind next time when I watch her with my natural eyes and naturally masturbate to her breastfeeding.

Yes, because breastfeeding is a purely sexual thing.

It's one of if not the most common sexual fetish, yes. Additionally, it's a major part of the natural reproductive process, so in the literal sense it is actually an entirely sexual function.

I mean, it's not directly related to copulation, but neither is masturbation. The basic drive is rooted in the subconscious desire to reproduce in both cases, too. Actually, the analogy is holding up a lot better than I thought it would, was expecting it to have broken down by now.


And my record of never losing an argument on the internet holds up another day.
 
2012-09-12 12:01:22 AM

davynelson: Anyone, and I mean ANYONE who has a 'problem' with breastfeeding anywhere
is a farking sad, stupid, moronic dumbass who should try and find some beauty in the magic of life

for a change.


Please see above post. Couldnt agree more.
 
2012-09-12 12:04:44 AM

davynelson: Anyone, and I mean ANYONE who has a 'problem' with breastfeeding anywhere
is a farking sad, stupid, moronic dumbass who should try and find some beauty in the magic of life

for a change.


of course. However, if I saw a rainbow in the conference room during a meeting I'd say "What the fark is this rainbow doing in here?!"
 
2012-09-12 12:07:58 AM
If I'm paying $1300 a credit and the class is 3-4 credits, that's $3900-5200 for the class. I would have been pissed if someone brought their kid to class, especially if it was sick. It's just a distraction and rude.

The breastfeeding in front of an audience thing is also weird. I wonder if any of the students were underage since I know I started college at 17. At my school if you were underage and the class would have any content that might contain nudity your parents had to sign a consent form, or over 18 you had to sign one yourself. This could fall into that category, depending on what was shown. Either way, it's one thing to do that in a public place discretely where you can duck in a corner somewhere, but it's another thing if you are doing it in front of a group of people who have to watch you. It's like an theater actor doing it on stage during a play.

Of course I remember my mom bringing me to class when I was very young, like 3 or so. I feel bad about it now even though it wasn't my choice, but I do remember crawling all over the floor. At least my mom was an early childhood education professor though so perhaps it was relevant. I still don't agree with it.
 
2012-09-12 12:08:52 AM

Dinjiin: doglover: I think breastfeeding in class should use the cupcake rule: if you didn't bring enough for everyone to share, you can't do it IN CLASS.

I'd personally put it in the same category as giving a lecture while eating. It is rude, but I wouldn't cry over it.


It's only rude if you don't share.

Or at least offer. If Professor Sweedish mc Swedeson brings in a can of rotten fish, I'll pass.

But if he doesn't offer to share, I'll raise holy hell.
 
2012-09-12 12:09:22 AM
I would be more concerned for the kid's health, since his immune system is already stressed and/or compromised. The college kids are much less likely to catch something from the kid than the other way around. Theoretically, most college students are adults, would be nice if they acted like it.
 
2012-09-12 12:10:50 AM
Ever notice people who wig out about women breastfeeding in public are also the same people who would say their trip to the grocery store is ruined because they heard some kid crying from the cereal aisle? It's a tit. Get over it.
 
2012-09-12 12:13:37 AM
Can't she just dress up like Benjamin Franklin to capture students' attention, like other teachers?

I was going to say I would have gotten up and left and dropped that class immediately, but I was never stupid enough to sign up for a worthless class like that in the first place. Not because of boobies, but because students pay to learn something, not watch a sick toddler lick the carpet.

In fact, that class should be a litmus for student loan repayment forgiveness: if you have never taken this class, then your student loans are 100% forgiven. If you have ever spent money on some sort of ridiculous, worthless gender studies class, then pay up, dumbass.

And yes, sometimes I hate women, and men, and anyone trans-bullshiat who would take that class.
 
2012-09-12 12:16:27 AM
Can see the professionalism issue. I do not have a problem with her conduct, and considering the classroom this is a little strange to see complaints, but the better decision would have been to take a few brief breaks. Breastfeed in the classroom, with students who stay or return, but give the option to students to leave for a short while without this being awkward between themselves and peers or themselves and you.

While I do not have a problem with this, I also do not have a problem with partisanship, vulgarity, sexuality, raunchy humor, etc., in a university course, but I know others do. I know others have a problem with this. The professional decision is to minimize this without negatively influencing instruction.
 
2012-09-12 12:16:39 AM

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Lunaville: Wow, am I really the only one who thinks the student who whined should have gotten a zero for the day for being a whiny little biatch?

I had both high school teachers and college professors, male and female, occasionally bring a very small child to class. It caused no disruptions at all. Some people just bend over backwards to find something to complain about.

Slight difference here. From TFA: The baby, in a blue onesie, crawled on the floor when she wasn't strapped onto Pine's back. The mother extracted a paper clip from the girl's mouth at one point and shooed her away from an electrical outlet. When the baby grew restless during the 75-minute afternoon session with 40 students, according to the professor's account, Pine breast-fed her while continuing to lecture and review the syllabus. A teaching assistant also held and rocked the child.


Sounds like someone should have taken 30 minutes over the previous week and set aside some breast milk and froze it. Then, the assistant can feed the child in another room , down the hall.

Its not like the first day of class was a surprise.
 
2012-09-12 12:17:35 AM

Moonk: I would be more concerned for the kid's health, since his immune system is already stressed and/or compromised. The college kids are much less likely to catch something from the kid than the other way around. Theoretically, most college students are adults, would be nice if they acted like it.


It's called a sick day.

Breastfeeding, changing a diaper, scracthing your ass and smelling your finger: all of these are perfectly natural things you can do at home or even in the park.

But as a professor coming in with a sick kid is a BAD move. Fecundity is not carte blanche to bring your home to work with you.
 
2012-09-12 12:18:42 AM
This wouldn't have happened if her employer provided her with dependent care services.
Why does education hate women?
 
2012-09-12 12:25:10 AM

scottydoesntknow: FishyFred: You wouldn't want to call in sick on the day you're supposed to start a big project, would you?

To be fair, most professionals wouldn't bring their kid with them on a big project and proceed to breastfeed them in front of the other team members.


That's a bad thing, and it is actually quite unfair.
 
2012-09-12 12:25:28 AM
i.ytimg.com

I have no objections.
 
2012-09-12 12:31:06 AM
A) they aren't being paid to be there, they are the customers
B) tweeting isn't distracting.


Tweeting is sure as hell distracting. Tweeting during a lecture is a disgusting, arrogant asshole behavior that is both distracting to your fellow classmates and tells your instructor that you don't give a shiat what they're saying. If you genuinely don't understand that, then let me be the first one to break the news - people are glaring at you because you're an arrogant asshole, not because you're a special snowflake who gets hated on for doing totally social normal behavior.
 
2012-09-12 12:32:37 AM
A feminist anthropology class. About as useful as tits on a turkey. Or a community college journalism course.
 
2012-09-12 12:35:20 AM

ricochet4: is there a way to automatically filter out anyone who uses the word "crotchfruit?"


Yes, it's the way I was able to avoid your post.
 
2012-09-12 12:38:24 AM
I wasn't allowed to bring my child to class, let alone pull out my tits in class.
 
2012-09-12 12:40:08 AM
It's called judgment. She chose... poorly.
 
2012-09-12 12:40:51 AM

gonegirl: A) they aren't being paid to be there, they are the customers
B) tweeting isn't distracting.


Tweeting is sure as hell distracting. Tweeting during a lecture is a disgusting, arrogant asshole behavior that is both distracting to your fellow classmates and tells your instructor that you don't give a shiat what they're saying. If you genuinely don't understand that, then let me be the first one to break the news - people are glaring at you because you're an arrogant asshole, not because you're a special snowflake who gets hated on for doing totally social normal behavior.


again, me fiddling with my cellphone in a class of 20+ other students is nothing remotely similar to the professor chasing her child around the room during a lecture. Not even a little bit. Sure, it's rude. However, it isn't "unprofessional" because a student is not a professional. The instructor is. It is rude to talk on your cellphone during a play. It's unprofessional for an actor to do so.
 
2012-09-12 12:42:24 AM
she has heard two opinions from students: that breast-feeding "is very much natural," and that doing so in class is "kind of unprofessional."

And these statements are not mutually exclusive
 
2012-09-12 12:45:31 AM

Nutsac_Jim: This wouldn't have happened if her employer provided her with dependent care services.



Our university provides daycare...for $1,325/month (and more if your kid is under a year of age). But if your kid is too sick, it has to stay home.
 
2012-09-12 12:48:33 AM

doglover: Moonk: I would be more concerned for the kid's health, since his immune system is already stressed and/or compromised. The college kids are much less likely to catch something from the kid than the other way around. Theoretically, most college students are adults, would be nice if they acted like it.

It's called a sick day.

Breastfeeding, changing a diaper, scracthing your ass and smelling your finger: all of these are perfectly natural things you can do at home or even in the park.

But as a professor coming in with a sick kid is a BAD move. Fecundity is not carte blanche to bring your home to work with you.


I generally hate children, even thinking about getting snipped. But i understand this woman not wanting to leave a sick child and i understand her fear/aversion to missing the first day of class. Things like that don't look good on a review. Granted, her response doesn't look good in a review either. And as i already said, i think she put the kid at greater risk exposing him to filthy freshman.

But it has been shown time and again that breast milk is much better for infants than formula, and i do not believe that infants should be denied sustenance, even for an hour if the child is hungry. Therefore i still side with her.
 
2012-09-12 12:49:26 AM
Was she hot?

Pics or it didn't happen.

Etc.
 
2012-09-12 12:51:31 AM

Jim_Callahan: OK, firstly, the students are not upset because you're exposing a breast in the classroom. They're upset because they're paying for a proper lecture and you're just wandering around half-assing while you watch your kid. The "this isn't high school, jackass" principle works both ways: while students are expected to gird up their big-boy pants and behave like they've paid for information in the classroom and be respectful to the other students by not being a jackoff, the instructors also have a responsibility to actually provide the content the students are paying for and not waste their time by doing personal errands when they're supposed to be focused.

Secondly, bringing a sick kid into a crowded lecture hall is a good way to make everyone sick. Hell, given how close-packed most universities are, bringing a healthy kid into a lecture hall is a good way to make the baby sick. Most of the students get flu shots specifically to avoid that shiat vectoring to your baby (flu doesn't mean shiat to an 18-20 year old, they have worse in hangovers every monday morning). Don't screw that effort up by bringing the little plague-susceptible germ culture into direct (aerosol) contact with the general population, you utter farking moron.

Thirdly, there are basic common-sense options for dealing with a kid in a university setting. The one that bears repeating is just stay home with it. Your students would rather you just drop a lecture and readjust the other lectures than have you borderline incoherent because you're watching your kid while talking anyhow. The others are listed in the article:

The university emphasized that faculty members should take advantage of options such as sick leave, break times and private areas for nursing mothers to express milk so they can "maintain a focus on professional responsibilities in the classroom."


THIS!
 
2012-09-12 12:57:21 AM

Moonk: doglover: Moonk: I would be more concerned for the kid's health, since his immune system is already stressed and/or compromised. The college kids are much less likely to catch something from the kid than the other way around. Theoretically, most college students are adults, would be nice if they acted like it.

It's called a sick day.

Breastfeeding, changing a diaper, scracthing your ass and smelling your finger: all of these are perfectly natural things you can do at home or even in the park.

But as a professor coming in with a sick kid is a BAD move. Fecundity is not carte blanche to bring your home to work with you.

I generally hate children, even thinking about getting snipped. But i understand this woman not wanting to leave a sick child and i understand her fear/aversion to missing the first day of class. Things like that don't look good on a review. Granted, her response doesn't look good in a review either. And as i already said, i think she put the kid at greater risk exposing him to filthy freshman.

But it has been shown time and again that breast milk is much better for infants than formula, and i do not believe that infants should be denied sustenance, even for an hour if the child is hungry. Therefore i still side with her.


Pretty interesting logic on your part.

"I don't believe infants should be denied sustinence, so it's okay to just cart them around even though I think exposing them to disease vectors is bad."

A potentially fatal infection is a lot worse than a little thunder belly, even for an infant.
 
2012-09-12 12:58:07 AM
At the Tavern, a dining room just off the central quad, Jenna Wasserman, 18, a freshman from New Jersey, said she has heard two opinions from students: that breast-feeding "is very much natural," and that doing so in class is "kind of unprofessional."

Masturbation is "very much natural," too. Does that mean that I can masturbate in Professor Pine's feminist anthropology class?

Asked whether the paper will publish a story on the matter, Cohen said, "We're still deliberating."
Publish it! She called you out, you need to respond. Don't let her push you around just because she has a Ph.D. and you don't.
 
2012-09-12 01:02:35 AM


That's not an "again," that's you admitting for the first time that texting during class is an arrogant asshole behavior. Texting is an arrogant asshole behavior that says, "I do not give a shiat if I am bothering any of my fellow students or my instructor."

So tell me, now, why is being an arrogant asshole who doesn't give a shiat about anyone around them better than breastfeeding a child in a classroom?
 
2012-09-12 01:03:06 AM

Moonk: doglover: Moonk: I would be more concerned for the kid's health, since his immune system is already stressed and/or compromised. The college kids are much less likely to catch something from the kid than the other way around. Theoretically, most college students are adults, would be nice if they acted like it.

It's called a sick day.

Breastfeeding, changing a diaper, scracthing your ass and smelling your finger: all of these are perfectly natural things you can do at home or even in the park.

But as a professor coming in with a sick kid is a BAD move. Fecundity is not carte blanche to bring your home to work with you.

I generally hate children, even thinking about getting snipped. But i understand this woman not wanting to leave a sick child and i understand her fear/aversion to missing the first day of class. Things like that don't look good on a review. Granted, her response doesn't look good in a review either. And as i already said, i think she put the kid at greater risk exposing him to filthy freshman.

But it has been shown time and again that breast milk is much better for infants than formula, and i do not believe that infants should be denied sustenance, even for an hour if the child is hungry. Therefore i still side with her.


what do you think the baby does every other day when she isn't at home taking care of her? Drinks breast milk that the mother pumped the day before is my guess.
 
2012-09-12 01:03:49 AM

FishyFred: BunkyBrewman: The My Little Pony Killer: So Pine brought her sick baby to class.

She should have cancelled that day's class.

She had an assistant that could care for her precious crotchfruit. She couldn't trust her class to this person for the next hour, or so?

It was the first class of the semester. I can understand the pressure. You wouldn't want to call in sick on the day you're supposed to start a big project, would you?


If it's that or infect my entire project team with whatever my sick infant has got...Yeah, I'd stay home. And were I one of the team members, I would TOTALLY understand. Please, keep your sick kid and his sick germs away from work. Or school.
 
2012-09-12 01:05:03 AM

gonegirl: That's not an "again," that's you admitting for the first time that texting during class is an arrogant asshole behavior. Texting is an arrogant asshole behavior that says, "I do not give a shiat if I am bothering any of my fellow students or my instructor."

So tell me, now, why is being an arrogant asshole who doesn't give a shiat about anyone around them better than breastfeeding a child in a classroom?


And a professor bringing her sick child in to chase her around and breast feed is saying "I don't really give a shiat about all of you despite the fact that you pay me to come here to teach you"

Give it up, the teacher was an unprofessional douche - far worse than a college kid checking FB on his phone during class
 
2012-09-12 01:09:17 AM

Gyrfalcon: FishyFred: BunkyBrewman: The My Little Pony Killer: So Pine brought her sick baby to class.

She should have cancelled that day's class.

She had an assistant that could care for her precious crotchfruit. She couldn't trust her class to this person for the next hour, or so?

It was the first class of the semester. I can understand the pressure. You wouldn't want to call in sick on the day you're supposed to start a big project, would you?

If it's that or infect my entire project team with whatever my sick infant has got...Yeah, I'd stay home. And were I one of the team members, I would TOTALLY understand. Please, keep your sick kid and his sick germs away from work. Or school.


i'm sorry, but the multitude of of students convening from around the country poses more of a threat to the child than the other way around....
 
2012-09-12 01:17:07 AM

Strongbeerrules: A feminist anthropology class. About as useful as tits on a turkey. Or a community college journalism course.


Hell I even saw a 2Pac course once.
 
2012-09-12 01:22:03 AM
I understand her situation, and personally I wouldn't have given a shiat, but her behavior does defy social norms, and serves as a distraction for many of the students. It's not just a baby sitting against the breast that is distracting, it's the fact that they can be quite loud while suckling. Someone making loud suckling noises in class would no doubt be reprimanded by the teacher for a distraction, but breastfeeding a baby isn't?
Just because a certain behavior is legally ok or won't get you fired, doesn't mean your students won't find it distasteful enough to drop your class, and the students aren't learning anything from your class if they don't take it.

And one of my questions is, why couldn't she just have pumped some milk earlier, and fed the child from a bottle? I understand women that are out and about doing errands not doing so because you can't really carry around breast milk since it will go bad, but the professor certainly had access to a refrigerator and could have saved it for a few hrs until feeding time, thus preventing the whole issue. Or she could have taken a 5-10 min break and had her aid fill in temporarily, since the first day of class is mainly covering rules, handing out papers, sometimes a pre-test, and going over the rest of the semesters curriculum. No reason the aid couldn't have taken over 5-10 mins of that.
While I think she should have the right to breastfeed in public, having the right doesn't mean you MUST defy social norms and offend other people just for the sake of doing so. A polite and understanding person would have considered the other people present and chosen a different way. 
I mean, it's my legal right to burp and fart in public, and no doubt it's probably more comfortable and healthy to let it out as necessary, but that doesn't mean I do that since most would find it distasteful and socially unacceptable.
 
2012-09-12 01:22:51 AM

The My Little Pony Killer: So Pine brought her sick baby to class.

She should have cancelled that day's class.


Yep, and really only for that reason. Don't expose others to your sick kid.
 
2012-09-12 01:25:05 AM

monstour: Gyrfalcon: FishyFred: BunkyBrewman: The My Little Pony Killer: So Pine brought her sick baby to class.

She should have cancelled that day's class.

She had an assistant that could care for her precious crotchfruit. She couldn't trust her class to this person for the next hour, or so?

It was the first class of the semester. I can understand the pressure. You wouldn't want to call in sick on the day you're supposed to start a big project, would you?

If it's that or infect my entire project team with whatever my sick infant has got...Yeah, I'd stay home. And were I one of the team members, I would TOTALLY understand. Please, keep your sick kid and his sick germs away from work. Or school.

i'm sorry, but the multitude of of students convening from around the country poses more of a threat to the child than the other way around....


Spoken like someone who never got sick from other people's kids at work.

Why yes, I have, and I did.
 
2012-09-12 01:31:48 AM

skullkrusher: gonegirl: That's not an "again," that's you admitting for the first time that texting during class is an arrogant asshole behavior. Texting is an arrogant asshole behavior that says, "I do not give a shiat if I am bothering any of my fellow students or my instructor."

So tell me, now, why is being an arrogant asshole who doesn't give a shiat about anyone around them better than breastfeeding a child in a classroom?

And a professor bringing her sick child in to chase her around and breast feed is saying "I don't really give a shiat about all of you despite the fact that you pay me to come here to teach you"

Give it up, the teacher was an unprofessional douche - far worse than a college kid checking FB on his phone during class


Such a wonderous display of biological ignorance while simultaneously ignoring all context. Bravo, sir. To be accused of trolling by you is indeed an honor.
 
2012-09-12 01:36:39 AM
When I was in undergrad, Intro to Womens' Studies fulfilled the "cross cultural" requirement.

Always struck me as odd.

I took Native American History instead, since I was minoring in History and needed an elective.

And then I took Native American Literature, because I misread the catalog and didn't realize the history class filled the C.C. requirement.

I never claimed I was college material, just that I went.
 
2012-09-12 01:41:50 AM

doglover: Moonk: doglover: Moonk: I would be more concerned for the kid's health, since his immune system is already stressed and/or compromised. The college kids are much less likely to catch something from the kid than the other way around. Theoretically, most college students are adults, would be nice if they acted like it.

It's called a sick day.

Breastfeeding, changing a diaper, scracthing your ass and smelling your finger: all of these are perfectly natural things you can do at home or even in the park.

But as a professor coming in with a sick kid is a BAD move. Fecundity is not carte blanche to bring your home to work with you.

I generally hate children, even thinking about getting snipped. But i understand this woman not wanting to leave a sick child and i understand her fear/aversion to missing the first day of class. Things like that don't look good on a review. Granted, her response doesn't look good in a review either. And as i already said, i think she put the kid at greater risk exposing him to filthy freshman.

But it has been shown time and again that breast milk is much better for infants than formula, and i do not believe that infants should be denied sustenance, even for an hour if the child is hungry. Therefore i still side with her.

Pretty interesting logic on your part.

"I don't believe infants should be denied sustinence, so it's okay to just cart them around even though I think exposing them to disease vectors is bad."

A potentially fatal infection is a lot worse than a little thunder belly, even for an infant.


No, not really making a logical argument. I was just saying i understand the conflict she was having. And i thought it was clear from my post that staying at home was the least worse of her choices, but i guess i wasn't clear

/sustenance


skullkrusher: Moonk: doglover: Moonk: I would be more concerned for the kid's health, since his immune system is already stressed and/or compromised. The college kids are much less likely to catch something from the kid than the other way around. Theoretically, most college students are adults, would be nice if they acted like it.

It's called a sick day.

Breastfeeding, changing a diaper, scracthing your ass and smelling your finger: all of these are perfectly natural things you can do at home or even in the park.

But as a professor coming in with a sick kid is a BAD move. Fecundity is not carte blanche to bring your home to work with you.

I generally hate children, even thinking about getting snipped. But i understand this woman not wanting to leave a sick child and i understand her fear/aversion to missing the first day of class. Things like that don't look good on a review. Granted, her response doesn't look good in a review either. And as i already said, i think she put the kid at greater risk exposing him to filthy freshman.

But it has been shown time and again that breast milk is much better for infants than formula, and i do not believe that infants should be denied sustenance, even for an hour if the child is hungry. Therefore i still side with her.

what do you think the baby does every other day when she isn't at home taking care of her? Drinks breast milk that the mother pumped the day before is my guess.


that is a good point, hadn't thought of that.
 
2012-09-12 01:44:54 AM

dahmers love zombie: djkutch: TheDumbBlonde: Anyone stupid enough to pay for a class on the subject, deserve a teacher such this one.

True. Biatches should know there they're place. Why this woman is working in a professional capacity instead of in the kitchen is a mystery.

/pet peave


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

AAAAAAAAH

AAAAH


Biatches should know there they're their place.
 
2012-09-12 02:02:12 AM

optikeye: To be fair the rules plainly state "No Food in the Classroom".


We had a sign in the classroom that I THOUGHT said "No Food in the Classroom" but when I actually read it it said "No FOOLS in the Classroom"

True story.
 
2012-09-12 02:03:11 AM

Lunaville: Wow, am I really the only one who thinks the student who whined should have gotten a zero for the day for being a whiny little biatch?

I had both high school teachers and college professors, male and female, occasionally bring a very small child to class. It caused no disruptions at all. Some people just bend over backwards to find something to complain about.


Because then the Dean will give them an A?
 
2012-09-12 02:04:21 AM

scottydoesntknow: FishyFred: You wouldn't want to call in sick on the day you're supposed to start a big project, would you?

To be fair, most professionals wouldn't bring their kid with them on a big project and proceed to breastfeed them in front of the other team members.


How can I tell you live in a flyover state?
 
2012-09-12 02:08:44 AM

baronbloodbath: dahmers love zombie: vudukungfu: coco ebert: o_O

I teach English to migrants.
Bonus points for sharing recipes.

Ooh, I need bonus points.

Migrant Stew

1 haunch of migrant, 5-8 lbs.
3 stalks celery
5 carrots, peeled
2 cloves garlic
1 medium onion, chopped coarse
2 cups migrant broth

Sear haunch in large cast iron skillet with olive oil until browned on all sides (if you can find a haunch from a migrant who worked in an organic field, it tastes better). Place in Dutch Oven with celery, carrots, garlic, onion, and migrant broth. Cover and cook at 325 degrees F. for 3 to 3.5 hours or until fork-tender. Serves 8-10.

How many points do I get?

13/10. Extra points for stylish name, and extra point for using the right version of coarse.



Um, I already have a PhD, but I'd like to audit any class you are grading. Please?
 
2012-09-12 02:12:53 AM

Nutsac_Jim: This wouldn't have happened if her employer provided her with dependent care services.
Why does education hate women?


Cause they get knocked up, or bleed all over the place if they aren't?
 
2012-09-12 02:16:15 AM

Moonk: I would be more concerned for the kid's health, since his immune system is already stressed and/or compromised. The college kids are much less likely to catch something from the kid than the other way around. Theoretically, most college students are adults, would be nice if they acted like it.


HA

Currently only 14% of collage students are adults. They can't drink, they can barely smoke, and some are even statutory rape charges walking. Plus they have parents who think if they strike out at T-ball the NEED another at bat.

And to think that some of their grandfathers, or great-grandfathers went off to fight WWII at an age when some, or most, of them were still at the tit.
 
2012-09-12 02:22:03 AM
Kids are frickin' germ vectors.

Anybody remember "Bring Your Daughter To Work Day?" It started out as a way for professional women to show their reasonably-sentient daughters that women can be effective and involved in the workplace, and to introduce them to a world of work that didn't involve shopping carts or bedpans.

Then somebody biatched, and then it was "Bring Your Children To Work Day." And within two years, it devolved, for the most part, into "Save A Day's Worth Of Daycare Money And Piss Off Your Co-Workers When Your Toddler Shoves a Fruit Roll-Up Into The Server's DVD Drive Day."

farking worthless.
 
2012-09-12 02:27:45 AM

TheTurtle: Kids are frickin' germ vectors.

Anybody remember "Bring Your Daughter To Work Day?" It started out as a way for professional women to show their reasonably-sentient daughters that women can be effective and involved in the workplace, and to introduce them to a world of work that didn't involve shopping carts or bedpans.

Then somebody biatched, and then it was "Bring Your Children To Work Day." And within two years, it devolved, for the most part, into "Save A Day's Worth Of Daycare Money And Piss Off Your Co-Workers When Your Toddler Shoves a Fruit Roll-Up Into The Server's DVD Drive Day."

farking worthless.



Well FARK you too juicebag, breaking up my string.
 
2012-09-12 02:45:05 AM

TheTurtle: Kids are frickin' germ vectors.

Anybody remember "Bring Your Daughter To Work Day?" It started out as a way for professional women to show their reasonably-sentient daughters that women can be effective and involved in the workplace, and to introduce them to a world of work that didn't involve shopping carts or bedpans.

Then somebody biatched, and then it was "Bring Your Children To Work Day." And within two years, it devolved, for the most part, into "Save A Day's Worth Of Daycare Money And Piss Off Your Co-Workers When Your Toddler Shoves a Fruit Roll-Up Into The Server's DVD Drive Day."

farking worthless.


Snarf. Shows what you know. The IT guys guard the sweaty, dark, gnarly IT closet of servers like it was the hidden closet of the Holy Grail!
 
2012-09-12 02:45:43 AM

BunkyBrewman: The My Little Pony Killer: So Pine brought her sick baby to class.

She should have cancelled that day's class.

She had an assistant that could care for her precious crotchfruit. She couldn't trust her class to this person for the next hour, or so?


Oh goody. "Crotchfruit" by the third response. I wonder how long it will take for "biatch" and "coont" to show up?
 
2012-09-12 02:46:08 AM

Smallberries:

Well FARK you too juicebag, breaking up my string.


Ah, crap. I'm bad at pattern recognition after a night of sorting Skittles.
 
2012-09-12 02:48:05 AM

Allen. The end.: Snarf. Shows what you know. The IT guys guard the sweaty, dark, gnarly IT closet of servers like it was the hidden closet of the Holy Grail!


She was the network admin. And actually, it was a Lunchables®, I just thought "Fruit Roll-Ups" sounded better.
 
2012-09-12 02:50:30 AM

poe_zlaw: Since breastfeeding is natural and so are erections,and masturbation, then she shouldnt mind next time when I watch her with my natural eyes and naturally masturbate to her breastfeeding.


Since nose-blowing is natural and so is masturbating, anybody who blows their nose in public should be arrested for indecency.
 
2012-09-12 02:52:42 AM

dennysgod: I wouldn't have gave a single fark if one of my female professor breast feed their child in class, however what does bother me is the fact this woman brought in a sick child which means she could have either spread whatever the kid had to her students or worse you brought a child with a weaken immune system to a classroom full of college students who aren't normally the pillar of good heath.


Babies have gripey sick says which are nothing to do with infectious illness. They also have infectious illnesses, but those tend to be very short, as their little immune systems learn how to fight them off, and they are things to which everyone else has already developed immunity. In other words, you are very unlikely to catch anything from a sick baby.
 
2012-09-12 02:55:38 AM

Smallberries: To be fair, most professionals wouldn't bring their kid with them on a big project and proceed to breastfeed them in front of the other team members.

How can I tell you live in a flyover state?


Know how I can tell that you are an idiot?
 
2012-09-12 02:58:12 AM

zzrhardy: If we can put up with breeders negroes demanding that all aspects of society pass their approval, I guess they can put up with the use of the word "crotchfruit ni-bong".


/don't you think?
 
2012-09-12 02:59:12 AM

Fish in a Barrel: The verb "express" always seems like a weird one to use for squeezing out some boob juice. On the other hand, I can't seem to think of any verb that doesn't come across as either crude, flippant, or needlessly vague.


Great, now I'm going to picture her "expressing" into a FedEx box.
 
2012-09-12 03:04:55 AM

skullkrusher: ricochet4: is there a way to automatically filter out anyone who uses the word "crotchfruit?"

alas, no. Still regarded as a witticism around these parts.


I prefer the term "Crotch Goblin" or "Goblyn of Crotche".

In regards to the incident? If I paid good money for the class, I expect quality instruction. Your personal problems should not pervade into the classroom.

Yes, your kid is YOUR problem. Not mine. What is irksome is that you continually push said crotch-dropping into my space (even though I really do try to avoid you), making it my problem and most children are too large to flush down the toilet.

/Kick the baby!
//(Don't kick the baby)
 
2012-09-12 03:05:09 AM

doglover: A potentially fatal infection is a lot worse than a little thunder belly, even for an infant.


If you think babies are at risk of potentially fatal infections from college students, do you think they should be banned from buses, shops, parks and anywhere else where they might encounter groups of college students. Hell, I sometimes meet groups of college students. To what potentially fatal diseases am I exposing myself?
 
2012-09-12 03:07:19 AM

skullkrusher: what do you think the baby does every other day when she isn't at home taking care of her? Drinks breast milk that the mother pumped the day before is my guess.


Or eats baby food. It's not a binary situation - many babies have breast milk as part of their diet. It's superb for calming them down, and I suspect that in this case it was as much about soothing as feeding.
 
2012-09-12 03:08:58 AM

skullkrusher: And a professor bringing her sick child in to chase her around and breast feed is saying "I don't really give a shiat about all of you so despite the fact that my baby is a bit unwell I appreciate that you pay me to come here to teach you"


FTFY
 
2012-09-12 03:19:24 AM

orbister: zzrhardy: If we can put up with breeders negroes demanding that all aspects of society pass their approval, I guess they can put up with the use of the word "crotchfruit ni-bong".

/don't you think?


No - actually, I don't think that. I specifically mean "parents".

If you really want to look for a racial straw man then I could draw a long bow and say that the "won't somebody please think of the children" is a white disease.
 
2012-09-12 03:33:30 AM
Welcome to the US workplace - where people are so afraid of losing their jobs, and feel like they have to work every waking hour, even to the detriment of their own childs best interest.
The US - where the work/life balance is farked.
 
2012-09-12 04:07:17 AM

zzrhardy: orbister: zzrhardy: If we can put up with breeders negroes demanding that all aspects of society pass their approval, I guess they can put up with the use of the word "crotchfruit ni-bong".

/don't you think?

No - actually, I don't think that. I specifically mean "parents".

If you really want to look for a racial straw man then I could draw a long bow and say that the "won't somebody please think of the children" is a white disease.


If you meant "parents" why did you write "breeders"? If you meant "children" why did you write "crotchfruit"? Do you use the n-word (so coy!) to describe black people?

It's not a racial thing, it's a language thing.
 
2012-09-12 04:23:15 AM

Smallberries: Moonk: I would be more concerned for the kid's health, since his immune system is already stressed and/or compromised. The college kids are much less likely to catch something from the kid than the other way around. Theoretically, most college students are adults, would be nice if they acted like it.

HA

Currently only 14% of collage students are adults. They can't drink, they can barely smoke, and some are even statutory rape charges walking. Plus they have parents who think if they strike out at T-ball the NEED another at bat.

And to think that some of their grandfathers, or great-grandfathers went off to fight WWII at an age when some, or most, of them were still at the tit.


76% of college students are under 18? You need to recheck your statisticals.
 
2012-09-12 04:48:11 AM

Gyrfalcon: Smallberries: Moonk: I would be more concerned for the kid's health, since his immune system is already stressed and/or compromised. The college kids are much less likely to catch something from the kid than the other way around. Theoretically, most college students are adults, would be nice if they acted like it.

HA

Currently only 14% of collage students are adults. They can't drink, they can barely smoke, and some are even statutory rape charges walking. Plus they have parents who think if they strike out at T-ball the NEED another at bat.

And to think that some of their grandfathers, or great-grandfathers went off to fight WWII at an age when some, or most, of them were still at the tit.

76% of college students are under 18? You need to recheck your statisticals.


Where did I say that? Who said 18 was an adult? How can you call yourself an adult if you can't drink? What are you 24?
 
2012-09-12 04:48:57 AM

TheTurtle: Smallberries:

Well FARK you too juicebag, breaking up my string.

Ah, crap. I'm bad at pattern recognition after a night of sorting Skittles.


Taste the rainbow? (I wish one of us had...)
 
2012-09-12 04:50:07 AM

TenJed_77: Smallberries: To be fair, most professionals wouldn't bring their kid with them on a big project and proceed to breastfeed them in front of the other team members.

How can I tell you live in a flyover state?

Know how I can tell that you are an idiot?


Cause your mom told you I forgot a condom?
 
2012-09-12 05:38:51 AM
I've had instructors bring their children to class for various reasons, but never while they were sick. None of those kids were distracting at all. As adults we all understood that sometimes shiat happens.

I don't think she should've brought her sick kid.... That certainly couldn't have been good for babby. And she was an idiot for not letting the TA take over the class when it came time to breast feed- even if the only reason to step out was so the kid could concentrate and relax and not omg ew boobies! First days are usually syllabus days anyway.

No one is going to think of you as a martyr or hero because of what you did only as someone with bd judgement skills.
 
2012-09-12 05:40:57 AM
*bad


Damnit. Preview is my friend.
 
2012-09-12 06:24:15 AM
It's absolutely disgusting when young people act like useless stubborn old people.
 
2012-09-12 06:35:46 AM
Ok, so the students need to be allowed to bring their kids to class etc., or else Prof Mommy is just perpetuating the hierarchy. Gasp.
 
2012-09-12 07:04:45 AM

doyner: Her only error was in not doing it as being integral to the day's lecture. Feminist anthropology you say? Breastfeeding seems pretty farking relevent to me. Talk about a great opportunity to address an undeserving taboo relating directly to the intersection of gender roles and biology....


So very much this. WHY is it inappropriate to breastfeed ANYWHERE? if she'd fed the baby a bottle of formula, or even of previously expressed breastmilk, not a soul would have complained.
 
2012-09-12 07:07:26 AM

dahmers love zombie: djkutch: TheDumbBlonde: Anyone stupid enough to pay for a class on the subject, deserve a teacher such this one.

True. Biatches should know there they're place. Why this woman is working in a professional capacity instead of in the kitchen is a mystery.

/pet peave


It's THEIR. And peeve
/facepalm
 
2012-09-12 07:10:45 AM

vudukungfu: dahmers love zombie: How many points do I get?

2.
Your mirepoix forgot the carrots.
Even Bugs Bunny would remember the carrots.


I want Hossenfeffer!
 
2012-09-12 07:24:29 AM

Smallberries: TenJed_77: Smallberries: To be fair, most professionals wouldn't bring their kid with them on a big project and proceed to breastfeed them in front of the other team members.

How can I tell you live in a flyover state?

Know how I can tell that you are an idiot?

Cause your mom told you I forgot a condom?


No, but she did say you were aptly named.
 
2012-09-12 07:33:38 AM

doglover: Moonk: doglover: Moonk: I would be more concerned for the kid's health, since his immune system is already stressed and/or compromised. The college kids are much less likely to catch something from the kid than the other way around. Theoretically, most college students are adults, would be nice if they acted like it.

It's called a sick day.

Breastfeeding, changing a diaper, scracthing your ass and smelling your finger: all of these are perfectly natural things you can do at home or even in the park.

But as a professor coming in with a sick kid is a BAD move. Fecundity is not carte blanche to bring your home to work with you.

I generally hate children, even thinking about getting snipped. But i understand this woman not wanting to leave a sick child and i understand her fear/aversion to missing the first day of class. Things like that don't look good on a review. Granted, her response doesn't look good in a review either. And as i already said, i think she put the kid at greater risk exposing him to filthy freshman.

But it has been shown time and again that breast milk is much better for infants than formula, and i do not believe that infants should be denied sustenance, even for an hour if the child is hungry. Therefore i still side with her.

Pretty interesting logic on your part.

"I don't believe infants should be denied sustinence, so it's okay to just cart them around even though I think exposing them to disease vectors is bad."

A potentially fatal infection is a lot worse than a little thunder belly, even for an infant.


Uh, how about no? If the child is sick and has any fever at all, they're in danger of dehydration, its not just being hungry. Plus a hungry baby doesn't know how to wait quietly for dinner and would have provided a far worse distraction than feeding it. The male student who complained is a farkwit
 
2012-09-12 08:30:00 AM
http://sarek.ytmnd.com/

//Obligatory
 
2012-09-12 08:54:20 AM
I agree this is a clear case of 'calm the fark down'. College students live in such close proximity to each other I don't think they are going to get sick from being within 5 feet of a BABY. Second, the baby was there for a few hours- hardly torture for the kid and it sounds like he/she wasn't even tired enough to be sleeping. Third, breast feeding is not and never will be offensive. I don't care if I see a obese woman breast feeding a five year old and get a full boob flash. It isn't offensive. It is a woman feeding her child. It is good for the kid.

Get over it!
 
2012-09-12 08:56:50 AM
It still amazes me that people forget we are animals and flip out when we do animal things like feed our offspring. Boobies are sexy, but not just for sex. Seeing one in a non-sex situation will not destroy your soul.
 
2012-09-12 09:28:27 AM
Could care less about breast feeding. Anyone that has a problem with this has bigger problems with themselves.

Taking your kid to work is very inappropriate and certainly unprofessional. If I was taking a class I would find a child very distracting.

Am a parent.
 
2012-09-12 09:34:13 AM
Lunaville

Wow, am I really the only one who thinks the student who whined should have gotten a zero for the day for being a whiny little biatch?

I had both high school teachers and college professors, male and female, occasionally bring a very small child to class. It caused no disruptions at all.

Good for you.
This one on the other hand was disrupting the class by eating paperclips, sticking its fingers in electrical outlets and sucking on saggy hippy boobs.
 
2012-09-12 09:39:25 AM
Put me in the category of people who see nothing wrong with the breastfeeding, but see a lot wrong with her bringing a sick kid to class. It's the first day of class. All she's doing is going over the syllabus with the students. They said she had an assistant - the assistant could have done that for her and she could have stayed home with the kid instead of exposing her class to the kid's illness. College students are diseased creatures as it is (I work with them), they don't need more illnesses to spread around.
 
2012-09-12 10:11:21 AM
NEWSFLASH: The worst possible place for a sick baby is the floor of a university lecture hall.


farkwit..
 
2012-09-12 10:15:23 AM

doyner: skullkrusher: gonegirl: That's not an "again," that's you admitting for the first time that texting during class is an arrogant asshole behavior. Texting is an arrogant asshole behavior that says, "I do not give a shiat if I am bothering any of my fellow students or my instructor."

So tell me, now, why is being an arrogant asshole who doesn't give a shiat about anyone around them better than breastfeeding a child in a classroom?

And a professor bringing her sick child in to chase her around and breast feed is saying "I don't really give a shiat about all of you despite the fact that you pay me to come here to teach you"

Give it up, the teacher was an unprofessional douche - far worse than a college kid checking FB on his phone during class

Such a wonderous display of biological ignorance while simultaneously ignoring all context. Bravo, sir. To be accused of trolling by you is indeed an honor.


which "biological ignorance" is that? The context is the point. Breastfeeding and chasing your baby around, cool. Breastfeeding and chasing your baby around when you're supposed to be teaching a class, not cool
 
2012-09-12 10:34:11 AM
Jeez. Don't get your tits in a bunch.
 
2012-09-12 10:34:26 AM

willfullyobscure: lulz


"I wasn't able to get my point across. Heather continued hounding me, as my voice became increasingly hoarse and pained. I, unfortunately, was in professor mode, too polite to tell her to go to hell. So when she asked me "do I consider the classroom a private or public space," presumably trying to bust me for doing something "private" somewhere public, I told her it was both. AU is so expensive and exclusionary, in addition to formally being a private university, that the classroom could be argued to be private; however, the ideal of the University is to be a forum where ideas can be exchanged and debated publicly, and I hoped my classroom corresponded to that model of open inquiry. But, I added, coughing, "whether it is private or public has no bearing on whether I would choose to feed a hungry child."

"When the incident occurred..." she began.

"I didn't think of it as an 'incident'," I responded, with what I'd hoped would be visible annoyance. "But obviously one of my students told you, so I guess you think it was."

She continued, "When the incident occurred, were you worried about what your students would think? Did they seem uncomfortable, did they say anything?"

I slapped my palm on my forehead in frustration...
Heather then tried to catch me on cultural insensitivity. "AU prides itself on its diversity and on having a large number of foreign students among its student body. Were you worried about what they'd think?" Exasperated, I skirted the issue of AU's lack of class and racial diversity (in Washington DC, of all places) and tried to explain that in most other societies, people don't have the kind of ridiculous Puritanical hangups that would turn a working woman breastfeeding into a newsworthy "incident."

"Since it's natural, after all, right?" She chipped in, nodding as if she got it.

I held my hands up and rolled my eyes.

She asked me if I thought the District of Columbia was doing enough to protect mothers' rights to breastfeed. I told her ...


Thanks for the link. I remember my college newspaper. It was a useless rag. The upcoming events section was the only good thing.
 
2012-09-12 11:07:54 AM

BarkingUnicorn: Baby is sick, so let it crawl around on a no-doubt perfectly sterile classroom floor, chewing on a paper clip and exploring electrical outlet.

First day of class consisted mainly of reviewing syllabus, something a TA could do.

"I've nothing to be ashamed of, but please don't use my name in your article."

"News" is not what the whole campus is talking about.

Translation: I realize I was an idiot, so I'm going on the attack.


Yeah. I have no problem with her breastfeeding in class. I have a problem with the baby there at all--you can't really teach and watch a baby at the same time. Why didn't she bring a playpen???
 
2012-09-12 11:19:55 AM

Loren: BarkingUnicorn: Baby is sick, so let it crawl around on a no-doubt perfectly sterile classroom floor, chewing on a paper clip and exploring electrical outlet.

First day of class consisted mainly of reviewing syllabus, something a TA could do.

"I've nothing to be ashamed of, but please don't use my name in your article."

"News" is not what the whole campus is talking about.

Translation: I realize I was an idiot, so I'm going on the attack.

Yeah. I have no problem with her breastfeeding in class. I have a problem with the baby there at all--you can't really teach and watch a baby at the same time. Why didn't she bring a playpen???


Wait, if you don't have a problem with her breastfeeding in class but you do have a problem with a baby being present... who is able to acceptably feed from her breast in class? Students? I personally think that might be worse... but maybe I'm just being prudish.
 
2012-09-12 11:27:29 AM
I'll never understand the "breast-feeding is natural" argument, especially in this situation. Urinating, defecating, eating and sleeping are natural too. That doesn't make them OK to do while you're supposed to be giving a lecture.
 
2012-09-12 11:32:59 AM

dahmers love zombie: djkutch: TheDumbBlonde: Anyone stupid enough to pay for a class on the subject, deserve a teacher such this one.

True. Biatches should know there they're place. Why this woman is working in a professional capacity instead of in the kitchen is a mystery.

/pet peave


'peeve'
 
2012-09-12 11:36:06 AM
If it's a class attracting students attracted to the word "feminist", you can bet there will be some "naughty bits are creepy" types in there. These are the emotional weasel sisters of the types who liked to tell the Gestapo which households were hiding Jews.
 
2012-09-12 11:39:56 AM

Nezray: I'll never understand the "breast-feeding is natural" argument, especially in this situation. Urinating, defecating, eating and sleeping are natural too. That doesn't make them OK to do while you're supposed to be giving a lecture.


stop your war on women (tm)
 
2012-09-12 12:48:22 PM

vudukungfu: coco ebert: This is a clear case of "everyone calm the f*ck down".

And that, however it could be a case of THIS

Seriously.
AWing. Will they ever get over it?
No. They will meet a meal ticket in school and marry him and emasculate him and milk him dry of everything but semen and then cast off the shell of a human and find an older, wealthier, meal ticket*.

*see also ATM


Annnnnnnnd... favourited!
 
2012-09-12 01:18:01 PM
People with children don't have anymore rights than people without children.

You aren't entitled to free child care or free health care for your children anymore than I'm entitled to free pet care and free health care for my pets. Having a child is a choice just like having a pet is a choice. You think your child is more important than my pet and that's fine, you can think whatever you want. You can also take care of your child on your own time, just like I take care of my pet on my own time.

You made the decision to have children so you're the one responsible for taking care of the children. If you can't take care of them then you need to give them to someone who can. Budgeting your time and money so you can provide the care and attention your child needs is 100% your responsbility. It's not your employers job to provide care for your children, it's not the goverment's job, it's not my job. It's your job and only your job. Don't bring you sick kids into work. Take the day off or hire a babysitter.

It's not fair that you think you can bring your little parasite into my professional space. When I go to McD's I don't expect there to be sick kids running around the kitchen and neither would you. How is this lady bringing her baby into work any different from that? If anyone, ANYONE, brought their little brats into my workplace I would be on the phone with HR before they were all the way in the door. I have the right to have a clean and healthy workplace free of distractions and disturbances. You have the right to take the day off to take care of your kid. I don't work in a daycare, I will not work in a daycare, and I will not have your children disrupting my work, creating a hostile and unpleasant environment.

As for breastfeeding, your kid shouldn't have been there in the first place and even with it there it's unprofessional to do that in front of teenagers when you're supposed to be an authority figure. They are teenagers, seriously. Why would you think that was a good idea? In my private life I'm strongly pro breastfeeding. It's not sexual, it's natural and good. But if even a man that I work with took off his shirt while sitting at his desk I would complain. Go to the other room, act like a professional.

I had an itchy tag on my shirt the other day while I was working that was driving me crazy. Did I take off my top sitting at my desk so I could cut the tag off? It's only natural that I would want to remove that tag and there's absolutely nothing unnatural about being topless. But of course I didn't, I'm a professional when I'm at work so I took a pair of sissors into the bathroom and took care of it.
 
2012-09-12 02:17:47 PM
So, Zero Tolerance, now at a college near you, right?
 
2012-09-12 02:36:00 PM

scottydoesntknow: FishyFred: You wouldn't want to call in sick on the day you're supposed to start a big project, would you?

To be fair, most professionals wouldn't bring their kid with them on a big project and proceed to breastfeed them in front of the other team members.


Exactly. I had class where a prof busted a kid's balls for being 5 minutes later once. Then a week later she breezes in half an hour late and acts like nothing is wrong, all because she had to take her kid's lunch to school. A number of us walked out of the class right then and there and walked over to the chair's office. We had a new prof the next week. One expects a level of professionalism from the people they're paying tuition dollars to support. That means finding child care or a backup to teach the class when your kid is sick (or reschedule the class). I'm dropping 13k a year on in-state right now and a prof pulled this shiat in my daughter's class, I'd be pretty pissed off.
 
2012-09-12 02:41:20 PM
For that matter, in addition to the above, most universities tend to have fairly generous sick leave balances and they consider staying home to care for a sick child to be a valid use of a sick day (you can take X sick days as family care days). It is a public health issue to bring a sick kid to the class. The baby's immune system is compromised so bringing it into a room full of undegrads is a dumb idea. For that matter, the undergrads likely don't need the exposure to extra germs. Considering she had a TA she had a lot of options. Send the lecture to the TA and ask them to cover it (although it may be against the grad student's contract to do that), ask another prof or lecturer to cover it, or just plain reschedule. Her playing the "anti-woman" card just cheapens the woman's rights movement. This isn't women's rights, it is about professionalism. A male prof bringing his sick kid in and bottle feeding at the lecture podium would be the exact same issue.
 
2012-09-12 02:46:24 PM

ha-ha-guy: A male prof bringing his sick kid in and bottle feeding at the lecture podium would be the exact same issue.


Unless it involved him whipping out a breast, no.
 
2012-09-12 03:03:43 PM

SkunkWerks: in and bottle feeding at the lecture podium would be the exact same issue.

Unless it involved him whipping out a breast, no.


Same issue: attention is not focused solely on instructing the class.
 
2012-09-12 03:21:57 PM

ha-ha-guy: Same issue: attention is not focused solely on instructing the class.


Maybe. Then again some syllabi don't exactly leave room to slack for an entire day...
 
2012-09-12 04:16:52 PM
Ever notice people who wig out about women breastfeeding in public are also the same people who would say their trip to the grocery store is ruined because they heard some kid crying from the cereal aisle? It's a tit. Get over it.

Ever notice how only stupid biatches take their whiny ass crotchfruit to the grocery store?
 
2012-09-12 05:03:55 PM

Old Smokie: Ever notice people who wig out about women breastfeeding in public are also the same people who would say their trip to the grocery store is ruined because they heard some kid crying from the cereal aisle? It's a tit. Get over it.

Ever notice how only stupid biatches take their whiny ass crotchfruit to the grocery store?


cause the alternative is leaving it at home, alone, to then be taken away from Children and Youth Services?
 
2012-09-12 05:35:35 PM

TenJed_77: Smallberries: TenJed_77: Smallberries: To be fair, most professionals wouldn't bring their kid with them on a big project and proceed to breastfeed them in front of the other team members.

How can I tell you live in a flyover state?

Know how I can tell that you are an idiot?

Cause your mom told you I forgot a condom?

No, but she did say you were aptly named.


Yep, a big twig makes the berries look small.
 
2012-09-13 03:48:22 AM

Smallberries: TenJed_77: Smallberries: TenJed_77: Smallberries: To be fair, most professionals wouldn't bring their kid with them on a big project and proceed to breastfeed them in front of the other team members.

How can I tell you live in a flyover state?

Know how I can tell that you are an idiot?

Cause your mom told you I forgot a condom?

No, but she did say you were aptly named.

Yep, a big twig makes the berries look small.


You keep thinking that, cause we all know the twig and berries go hand in hand. And dried out old twig always has shriveled berries.
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2012-09-13 06:28:17 PM

TenJed_77: Smallberries: TenJed_77: Smallberries: TenJed_77: Smallberries: To be fair, most professionals wouldn't bring their kid with them on a big project and proceed to breastfeed them in front of the other team members.

How can I tell you live in a flyover state?

Know how I can tell that you are an idiot?

Cause your mom told you I forgot a condom?

No, but she did say you were aptly named.

Yep, a big twig makes the berries look small.

You keep thinking that, cause we all know the twig and berries go hand in hand. And dried out old twig always has shriveled berries.
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Really? It took you 24 hours to come up with that?
 
2012-09-14 08:27:20 AM
Not really, I'm just not on Fark every day.
And I live in Europe
 
2012-09-14 10:51:05 AM

BolshyGreatYarblocks: dahmers love zombie: djkutch: TheDumbBlonde: Anyone stupid enough to pay for a class on the subject, deserve a teacher such this one.

True. Biatches should know there they're place. Why this woman is working in a professional capacity instead of in the kitchen is a mystery.

/pet peave

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