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2012-09-11 08:16:31 PM
Damn subby, there's a img1.fark.net tag for a reason!
 
2012-09-11 08:29:17 PM
Strange? Fark off Subby.
 
2012-09-11 08:33:56 PM
Um, yeah, that's strange, Subby.
 
2012-09-11 08:35:49 PM
I've found that weed is an excellent solution to baby colic. When baby starts to cry, I smoke a couple bowls and the crying doesn't bother me anymore. It's pretty miraculous the way it works.
 
2012-09-11 08:36:43 PM
Pat Robertson is still against gay marijuana, I bet.
 
2012-09-11 08:37:09 PM
Why 'urge' to legalize? It's easier and cheaper to purchase than alcohol. Has been for years. Not to mention free delivery with no tipping.
 
2012-09-11 08:37:45 PM
FTFA:

The initiative has drawn an unusual array of supporters: Seattle City Attorney Pete Holmes, former U.S. Attorney John McKay, Bellingham Mayor Kelly Linville, travel guru Rick Steves


Interesting. I like his show.
 
2012-09-11 08:40:07 PM
Cypress Hill CD's are finally available in Seattle?
 
2012-09-11 08:40:19 PM
So, anyone else planning their next vacation for Colorado? 

/legalization still leading in recent polls
 
2012-09-11 08:44:19 PM
 
2012-09-11 08:46:59 PM
They got my vote.
 
2012-09-11 08:49:49 PM

DeathByGeekSquad: I'd prefer to keep my cajones cancer free...


Double what? If it doubles from .0001% to .0002% I don't give a shiat.
 
2012-09-11 08:50:17 PM
The laws and law enforcement around MJ cause far, far more harm to those that come into contact with it than the drug itself ever could. It's obvious we (as a society) just get off on ruining the lives of those that transgress our arbitrary rules.

Sick society.
 
2012-09-11 08:50:38 PM

DeathByGeekSquad: I'd prefer to keep my cajones cancer free...


Well, you know what cures cancer, right? Marijuana!
 
2012-09-11 08:50:50 PM
FTFA: - Pat Robertson: Many people found themselves oddly cheering for the longtime conservative televangelist, after he lectured on the need to soften marijuana laws. But he also said the tornadoes that devastated the Midwest in March could have been prevented if enough people had prayed

Can't avoid taking that unnecessary jab, can you, Seattle PI?
 
2012-09-11 08:52:24 PM

DeathByGeekSquad: I'd prefer to keep my cajones cancer free...


If it's decriminalised that doesn't mean it's mandatory.
 
2012-09-11 08:53:26 PM

zixr: DeathByGeekSquad: I'd prefer to keep my cajones cancer free...

Well, you know what cures cancer, right? Marijuana!


Yea, so we legalize it, and then guess which companies start large scale production.
 
2012-09-11 08:55:41 PM

Tyranicle: Why 'urge' to legalize? It's easier and cheaper to purchase than alcohol. Has been for years. Not to mention free delivery with no tipping.


Because then the cops would have to leave the black kids that smoke it alone as well as the white kids...

That's no joke by the way, inconsistent and racially motivated enforcement of the weed laws occurs in a lot of places.
 
2012-09-11 08:58:03 PM
In one case, a seasonal national park ranger - seeking a Park Service career - was denied admission into a law enforcement course after acknowledging that he took a toke on a marijuana cigarette months earlier at a party.

A federal seasonal law enforcement officer was denied admission into a law enforcement course after violating federal law and his agency's policies? This is an outrage!

Something tells me he picked the wrong career. Even if pot were legal, law enforcement agencies would still deny people for marijuana use.
 
2012-09-11 08:59:11 PM
I'd just like to be able to use it for a back injury without having to worry about the neighbors calling the police. Legally prescribed pain pills, you do nothing!
 
2012-09-11 08:59:29 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: FTFA: - Pat Robertson: Many people found themselves oddly cheering for the longtime conservative televangelist, after he lectured on the need to soften marijuana laws. But he also said the tornadoes that devastated the Midwest in March could have been prevented if enough people had prayed

Can't avoid taking that unnecessary jab, can you, Seattle PI?


The one time such a jab isn't really warranted, they make it....
 
2012-09-11 08:59:29 PM

12349876: DeathByGeekSquad: I'd prefer to keep my cajones cancer free...

Double what? If it doubles from .0001% to .0002% I don't give a shiat.


The same study found that it's not dose-dependent. Means if you smoked a couple of times at college or are an ounce a week toker, it's the same increase in risk. That's an unusual result.

/gets through an oz in about a fortnight when smoking
 
2012-09-11 09:01:01 PM

BobTheHamster:

... Even if pot were legal, law enforcement agencies would still deny people for marijuana use.


Absolutely. Wouldn't want anyone exhibiting an open mind in that field.
 
2012-09-11 09:03:11 PM
Marijuana laws are a powerful, lucrative tool of oppression. I really don't think that the forces of evil are about to give up on them so easily.
 
2012-09-11 09:10:36 PM

Rufus Lee King: Gothnet: Tyranicle: Why 'urge' to legalize? It's easier and cheaper to purchase than alcohol. Has been for years. Not to mention free delivery with no tipping.

Because then the cops would have to leave the black kids that smoke it alone as well as the white kids...

That's no joke by the way, inconsistent and racially motivated enforcement of the weed laws occurs in a lot of places.

See, now, there it goes. Being white, I can walk around smoking weed in public, and the cops will just leave me alone. You don't really believe that, I hope.


Well being white, the chance that you're walking around in a cop free area is much higher than it is for a minority.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2012-09-11 09:16:18 PM
FARK needs an "about frikkin time" tag.
 
2012-09-11 09:16:53 PM

12349876: Rufus Lee King: Gothnet: Tyranicle: Why 'urge' to legalize? It's easier and cheaper to purchase than alcohol. Has been for years. Not to mention free delivery with no tipping.

Because then the cops would have to leave the black kids that smoke it alone as well as the white kids...

That's no joke by the way, inconsistent and racially motivated enforcement of the weed laws occurs in a lot of places.

See, now, there it goes. Being white, I can walk around smoking weed in public, and the cops will just leave me alone. You don't really believe that, I hope.

Well being white, the chance that you're walking around in a cop free area is much higher than it is for a minority.


Hmm, wonder why that could be?
 
2012-09-11 09:17:33 PM

Gothnet: Tyranicle: Why 'urge' to legalize? It's easier and cheaper to purchase than alcohol. Has been for years. Not to mention free delivery with no tipping.

Because then the cops would have to leave the black kids that smoke it alone as well as the white kids...

That's no joke by the way, inconsistent and racially motivated enforcement of the weed laws occurs in a lot of places.


This. The same goes for "driving while black". Some people might say it in jest, but it doesn't make it any less true or sh*tty.
 
2012-09-11 09:19:08 PM

chaosweaver: 12349876: Rufus Lee King: Gothnet: Tyranicle: Why 'urge' to legalize? It's easier and cheaper to purchase than alcohol. Has been for years. Not to mention free delivery with no tipping.

Because then the cops would have to leave the black kids that smoke it alone as well as the white kids...

That's no joke by the way, inconsistent and racially motivated enforcement of the weed laws occurs in a lot of places.

See, now, there it goes. Being white, I can walk around smoking weed in public, and the cops will just leave me alone. You don't really believe that, I hope.

Well being white, the chance that you're walking around in a cop free area is much higher than it is for a minority.

Hmm, wonder why that could be?


The American police hate minorities and use excessive patrolling to keep them in their place.
 
2012-09-11 09:19:37 PM

chaosweaver: 12349876: Rufus Lee King: Gothnet: Tyranicle: Why 'urge' to legalize? It's easier and cheaper to purchase than alcohol. Has been for years. Not to mention free delivery with no tipping.

Because then the cops would have to leave the black kids that smoke it alone as well as the white kids...

That's no joke by the way, inconsistent and racially motivated enforcement of the weed laws occurs in a lot of places.

See, now, there it goes. Being white, I can walk around smoking weed in public, and the cops will just leave me alone. You don't really believe that, I hope.

Well being white, the chance that you're walking around in a cop free area is much higher than it is for a minority.

Hmm, wonder why that could be?


Maybe racism, maybe focusing on high violent crime areas, either way it means the vast vast majority of people getting busted for non-violent pot use are minorities even though all the self-reported surveys say a greater percentage of white people use pot.
 
2012-09-11 09:20:45 PM

Hale-Bopp: So, anyone else planning their next vacation for Colorado? 

/legalization still leading in recent polls


Used to live in Colorado Springs. Every block (almost literally) there is a medical marijuana dispensary. You have to get a Dr. approval and go through a process which costs about $200 to get a card. I was going to then work moved me. BTW if you show up for the Dr. appointment you are classified as having medical need for marijuana. Just show up.

Now I'm in Chicago so yeah, illegal here but....who the f*ck cares about the laws of the land. Carrying a gun is against the law here, too, but that doesn't stop me.

Fu*k the feds...I hope Washington, D.C. is the epicenter of a nuclear bomb. Bring on the chaos!
 
2012-09-11 09:23:13 PM

DeathByGeekSquad: I'd prefer to keep my cajones cancer free...


I didn't know that boxes could get cancer.

scottydoesntknow: Damn subby, there's a [img1.fark.net image 54x11] tag for a reason!


Wrong. This headline requires the Spliffy tag.
 
2012-09-11 09:25:04 PM
You American cats need to try some real, BC Bud. Blow the top off your Yoda bong.
 
2012-09-11 09:26:05 PM
they're right
 
2012-09-11 09:26:07 PM

SovietCanuckistan: You American cats need to try some real, BC Bud. Blow the top off your Yoda bong.


This. Canadian herb is where it's at.
 
2012-09-11 09:27:10 PM

BobTheHamster: In one case, a seasonal national park ranger - seeking a Park Service career - was denied admission into a law enforcement course after acknowledging that he took a toke on a marijuana cigarette months earlier at a party.

A federal seasonal law enforcement officer was denied admission into a law enforcement course after violating federal law and his agency's policies? This is an outrage!

Something tells me he picked the wrong career. Even if pot were legal, law enforcement agencies would still deny people for marijuana use.


On, uh, what grounds there, Skippy?
 
2012-09-11 09:29:32 PM

KaiserRoll: zixr: DeathByGeekSquad: I'd prefer to keep my cajones cancer free...

Well, you know what cures cancer, right? Marijuana!

Yea, so we legalize it, and then guess which companies start large scale production.


My back yard?
 
2012-09-11 09:29:43 PM

lewismarktwo: BobTheHamster: Even if pot were legal, law enforcement agencies would still deny people for marijuana use.

On, uh, what grounds there, Skippy?


Insufficient aggression?
 
2012-09-11 09:31:50 PM

thurstonxhowell: KaiserRoll: zixr: DeathByGeekSquad: I'd prefer to keep my cajones cancer free...

Well, you know what cures cancer, right? Marijuana!

Yea, so we legalize it, and then guess which companies start large scale production.

My back yard?


OMG attractive nuisance!!! Little kids could grab a leaf and take it to show and tell!!! Your busted, chump.
 
2012-09-11 09:32:12 PM

lewismarktwo: BobTheHamster: In one case, a seasonal national park ranger - seeking a Park Service career - was denied admission into a law enforcement course after acknowledging that he took a toke on a marijuana cigarette months earlier at a party.

A federal seasonal law enforcement officer was denied admission into a law enforcement course after violating federal law and his agency's policies? This is an outrage!

Something tells me he picked the wrong career. Even if pot were legal, law enforcement agencies would still deny people for marijuana use.

On, uh, what grounds there, Skippy?


My guess would be the same reason the army can still give you the can even if you have a Medical card and you piss hot. Just because it's legal doesn't mean a business (or anyone that employs anyone) HAS to allow their employees to use it. Just means they can't prosecute them. Just like it's legal for me to dye my beard odd colors, but if I were to walk into work with an electric blue goatee, i'd get written up.

And to those that commented on my boobies here: you got trolled, sorry.
 
2012-09-11 09:32:51 PM

pxlboy: SovietCanuckistan: You American cats need to try some real, BC Bud. Blow the top off your Yoda bong.

This. Canadian herb is where it's at.


Well sure...if you can't get California bud.
 
2012-09-11 09:33:05 PM

pxlboy: SovietCanuckistan: You American cats need to try some real, BC Bud. Blow the top off your Yoda bong.

This. Canadian herb is where it's at.


I do agree that you Canucks have excellent weed, but you don't have a monopoly on the good stuff. I can get similar quality here in Colorado.

//thanks for the seeds, btw
 
2012-09-11 09:33:56 PM

Gothnet: The laws and law enforcement around MJ cause far, far more harm to those that come into contact with it than the drug itself ever could. It's obvious we (as a society) just get off on ruining the lives of those that transgress our arbitrary rules.

Sick society.


It s a relatively harmless substance and should not be considered criminal at all.
 
2012-09-11 09:36:08 PM
Surprised the article doesn't mention the incentive to try the legal fake pot. God only knows what the chemicals in that stuff does to the body but I bet its a lot worse than weed.
 
2012-09-11 09:39:05 PM

lewismarktwo: Your busted, chump.


My busted what?
 
2012-09-11 09:40:54 PM

chaosweaver: lewismarktwo: BobTheHamster: In one case, a seasonal national park ranger - seeking a Park Service career - was denied admission into a law enforcement course after acknowledging that he took a toke on a marijuana cigarette months earlier at a party.

A federal seasonal law enforcement officer was denied admission into a law enforcement course after violating federal law and his agency's policies? This is an outrage!

Something tells me he picked the wrong career. Even if pot were legal, law enforcement agencies would still deny people for marijuana use.

On, uh, what grounds there, Skippy?

My guess would be the same reason the army can still give you the can even if you have a Medical card and you piss hot. Just because it's legal doesn't mean a business (or anyone that employs anyone) HAS to allow their employees to use it. Just means they can't prosecute them. Just like it's legal for me to dye my beard odd colors, but if I were to walk into work with an electric blue goatee, i'd get written up.

And to those that commented on my boobies here: you got trolled, sorry.


Sure, private companies could make that policy, but a public sector job would only be worried about what was legal and what wasn't.

The only reason not to allow your employees to use it is because insurance companies use it as an excuse not to pay. If they had to prove actual intoxication like with booze instead of mere use (minor use can show up to 6 months later in older women or people with metabolism issues), only people getting high at work would be affected.

No one but die hard authoritarian hardons actually cares if people toke up off the clock. (Excepting people who still believe the propaganda, which is not many educated folks)

As for the military, they own your ass.
 
2012-09-11 09:41:53 PM

thurstonxhowell: lewismarktwo: Your busted, chump.

My busted what?


I believe he misspelled. He meant to say 'your busted rump', as in the reason you'll need medical MJ.
 
2012-09-11 09:43:27 PM

Tyranicle: It's easier and cheaper to purchase than alcohol. Has been for years. Not to mention free delivery with no tipping.


Yeah, I wish. If I want beer, I walk 3 blocks to the supermarket and buy myself a 12 pack. I'm back home in minutes.

If I want to buy weed, I call my connection. He tells me he'll be over at 6pm, but I'll be really lucky if he shows up by 8pm. Of course, he's stoned when he shows up, and doesn't bring the weed himself because he has to get it from "his guy". So I give him my money and wait. Then by 10pm, I'm starting to get antsy, so I call my connection and get his voicemail. He finally returns my call at 11pm, and apologizes. He couldn't hear the phone because he was playing video games at his guy's house. So he promises to stop playing video games and will be by to drop off my weed. By midnight, I give up and go to sleep. At 1:30am, my daughter comes into my room and tells me some guy came to her window asking for me. I go outside and it's my connection with my weed. He's totally shiatfaced. Gives me my weed and the bag looks small. I ask him if that's all, and he says he thinks it is, but when I look at the passenger seat in the car, I see a whole bunch of weed on it. "Is that my weed that spilled out of the bag onto your seat?" He laughs, apologizes, then reaches into his car and gives me the rest of my weed. Then, completely oblivious to the fact that it's 1:30am and he's driving through a quiet, upscale neighborhood, he cranks up Lil' Wayne loud on his car stereo and burns out right in front of my house.

It's been my experience that the people who sell weed are brain-addled and unreliable. I hate dealing with people like this. I'm a middle-aged professional and parent - the amount of people I know who actually still smoke weed I could probably count on one hand, so it's not as if it'd be easy for me to find another connection. If it were legal, I would be able to pick it up at my local convenience store and I wouldn't have to put up with all kinds of crap just to buy it.
 
2012-09-11 09:44:17 PM

Dextro: Surprised the article doesn't mention the incentive to try the legal fake pot. God only knows what the chemicals in that stuff does to the body but I bet its a lot worse than weed.


Something scraped off the walls of a room full of dead meth cooks. That's got to be some good shiat, just cut the dose by 10x and call it safe I Can't Believe I'm Eating Face!
 
2012-09-11 09:45:07 PM

KaiserRoll: zixr: DeathByGeekSquad: I'd prefer to keep my cajones cancer free...

Well, you know what cures cancer, right? Marijuana!

Yea, so we legalize it, and then guess which companies start large scale production.


Monsanto?
 
2012-09-11 09:46:27 PM

thurstonxhowell: lewismarktwo: Your busted, chump.

My busted what?


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2012-09-11 09:46:49 PM
I'm happy to have signed the Oregon legalization initiative. I was kind of drunk when my bud's wife brought it up, and I figured if it helps with chronic pain there might be a nugget of good in helping seed the idea. It might not get anywhere this time, but good ideas stem from small attempts.
 
2012-09-11 09:51:15 PM

davidphogan: I'm happy to have signed the Oregon legalization initiative. I was kind of drunk when my bud's wife brought it up, and I figured if it helps with chronic pain there might be a nugget of good in helping seed the idea. It might not get anywhere this time, but good ideas stem from small attempts.


Definitely voting YES on that one myself. Since I can't effect the presidential race at all I might as well accomplish *something* with my ballot.
 
2012-09-11 09:52:18 PM

Gothnet: The laws and law enforcement around MJ cause far, far more harm to those that come into contact with it than the drug itself ever could. It's obvious we (as a society) just get off on ruining the lives of those that transgress our arbitrary rules.

Sick society.


we've all seen the documentaries on how and why MJ is illegal in america. once again, as always, it is not you and i, it is not the masses across the land that pull the strings. it is a very few very wealthy and powerful people making sure their personal interests are placed first. these greedy few who are fabulously wealthy care more about their family wealth growing uninterrupted. piling more money on top of the pile that is so large they can never spend it all means more to them than the suffering of thousands and thousands of children who's parents, guardians and concerned adults being put in prison for use, sale or possession.

it is not a sick society. it is directly traced to the actions of a very few people who are by human nature corrupted by their own power, wealth and greed.

society, the masses, the commoners working day to day, show more compassion, kindness, love and generosity toward each other on a daily basis than most people will ever take the time to realize. in america it is even more difficult as we have to tolerate each others differences inherent in our highly diversified backgrounds, religious beliefs, customs etcetera. yet we do it every day.

the sooner key people of wealth and power are identified and their actions are changed to benefit the many instead of the very few, the sooner our country and its citizens will reap those benefits. and what a glorious day that will be.
 
2012-09-11 09:53:54 PM

DaCaptain19: Hale-Bopp: So, anyone else planning their next vacation for Colorado? 

/legalization still leading in recent polls

Used to live in Colorado Springs. Every block (almost literally) there is a medical marijuana dispensary. You have to get a Dr. approval and go through a process which costs about $200 to get a card. I was going to then work moved me. BTW if you show up for the Dr. appointment you are classified as having medical need for marijuana. Just show up.

Now I'm in Chicago so yeah, illegal here but....who the f*ck cares about the laws of the land. Carrying a gun is against the law here, too, but that doesn't stop me.

Fu*k the feds...I hope Washington, D.C. is the epicenter of a nuclear bomb. Bring on the chaos!


Geez... I just want to get some really good weed and chill out, lol.
 
2012-09-11 09:56:53 PM

Stone Meadow: pxlboy: SovietCanuckistan: You American cats need to try some real, BC Bud. Blow the top off your Yoda bong.

This. Canadian herb is where it's at.

Well sure...if you can't get California bud.


Good call. Cali and Colorado also do it up right.
 
2012-09-11 10:02:58 PM

Stone Meadow: pxlboy: SovietCanuckistan: You American cats need to try some real, BC Bud. Blow the top off your Yoda bong.

This. Canadian herb is where it's at.

Well sure...if you can't get California bud.


Stop it people. I think the one thing both parties can agree on: mexican weed is, by far, the worst.

/just had me some girl scout cookie
 
gja [TotalFark]
2012-09-11 10:07:40 PM

pxlboy: SovietCanuckistan: You American cats need to try some real, BC Bud. Blow the top off your Yoda bong.

This. Canadian herb is where it's at.


How 'bout we all meet up at the 'Windsor ballet' and partake?
 
gja [TotalFark]
2012-09-11 10:09:19 PM

CalamitousCrasher: Stone Meadow: pxlboy: SovietCanuckistan: You American cats need to try some real, BC Bud. Blow the top off your Yoda bong.

This. Canadian herb is where it's at.

Well sure...if you can't get California bud.

Stop it people. I think the one thing both parties can agree on: mexican weed is, by far, the worst.

/just had me some girl scout cookie




encrypted-tbn3.google.com

A Girl Scout's cookies?
 
2012-09-11 10:22:44 PM

DeathByGeekSquad: I'd prefer to keep my cajones cancer free...


Then you should choose not to smoke it.
 
2012-09-11 10:26:31 PM

gja: pxlboy: SovietCanuckistan: You American cats need to try some real, BC Bud. Blow the top off your Yoda bong.

This. Canadian herb is where it's at.

How 'bout we all meet up at the 'Windsor ballet' and partake?


Sorry man...can't get off the couch.
 
2012-09-11 10:40:02 PM
I was prepared to facepalm over this, but "yeah, drugs are stupid, but kids do stupid shiat and if you put them in jail for it then you're hurting them much more than their stupidity would have in the first place" is actually fairly legit.

//I was expecting a spiel about the "health benefits" of the drug or whatever, which would have been pretty facepalmeriffic given that juvenile humans are basically the only subset of humanity that does have developmental issues associated with even mild drugs.
 
2012-09-11 11:12:30 PM

gja: CalamitousCrasher: Stone Meadow: pxlboy: SovietCanuckistan: You American cats need to try some real, BC Bud. Blow the top off your Yoda bong.

This. Canadian herb is where it's at.

Well sure...if you can't get California bud.

Stop it people. I think the one thing both parties can agree on: mexican weed is, by far, the worst.

/just had me some girl scout cookie



[encrypted-tbn3.google.com image 225x225]

A Girl Scout's cookies?


Erm, strain I should have added. Calm down there.
 
2012-09-11 11:13:17 PM

lewismarktwo: chaosweaver: lewismarktwo: BobTheHamster: In one case, a seasonal national park ranger - seeking a Park Service career - was denied admission into a law enforcement course after acknowledging that he took a toke on a marijuana cigarette months earlier at a party.

A federal seasonal law enforcement officer was denied admission into a law enforcement course after violating federal law and his agency's policies? This is an outrage!

Something tells me he picked the wrong career. Even if pot were legal, law enforcement agencies would still deny people for marijuana use.

On, uh, what grounds there, Skippy?

My guess would be the same reason the army can still give you the can even if you have a Medical card and you piss hot. Just because it's legal doesn't mean a business (or anyone that employs anyone) HAS to allow their employees to use it. Just means they can't prosecute them. Just like it's legal for me to dye my beard odd colors, but if I were to walk into work with an electric blue goatee, i'd get written up.

And to those that commented on my boobies here: you got trolled, sorry.

Sure, private companies could make that policy, but a public sector job would only be worried about what was legal and what wasn't.

The only reason not to allow your employees to use it is because insurance companies use it as an excuse not to pay. If they had to prove actual intoxication like with booze instead of mere use (minor use can show up to 6 months later in older women or people with metabolism issues), only people getting high at work would be affected.

No one but die hard authoritarian hardons actually cares if people toke up off the clock. (Excepting people who still believe the propaganda, which is not many educated folks)

As for the military, they own your ass.


You have clearly never worked for a city/county/state/federal government agency.
 
2012-09-11 11:18:51 PM

Hector Remarkable: Marijuana laws are a powerful, lucrative tool of oppression.


They're also expensive. One of the reasons Prohibition 1.0 failed is because of the cost of enforcing the Volstead Act. It cost a lot to have all of those agents from the DOJ, IRS and LEOs in the field. Not to mention all of the consumption taxes that went uncollected.

I'm surprised that more fiscal conservatives have not questioned the continued war on marijuana. But I guess lobbying efforts from the firearm and private prison industries as well as police unions keep such progressive thinking at bay.


kidsizedcoffin: I'd just like to be able to use it for a back injury without having to worry about the neighbors calling the police.


Try edibles as opposed to smoking. Stinks a heck of a lot less.


Ow! That was my feelings!: I can get similar quality here in Colorado.


I have to agree that BC Bud is overhyped. There are a number of high quality strains available in the States. As long as you have a good grower who knows what they're doing, you'll get excellent product.
 
2012-09-11 11:24:29 PM

BobTheHamster: lewismarktwo: chaosweaver: lewismarktwo: BobTheHamster: In one case, a seasonal national park ranger - seeking a Park Service career - was denied admission into a law enforcement course after acknowledging that he took a toke on a marijuana cigarette months earlier at a party.

A federal seasonal law enforcement officer was denied admission into a law enforcement course after violating federal law and his agency's policies? This is an outrage!

Something tells me he picked the wrong career. Even if pot were legal, law enforcement agencies would still deny people for marijuana use.

On, uh, what grounds there, Skippy?

My guess would be the same reason the army can still give you the can even if you have a Medical card and you piss hot. Just because it's legal doesn't mean a business (or anyone that employs anyone) HAS to allow their employees to use it. Just means they can't prosecute them. Just like it's legal for me to dye my beard odd colors, but if I were to walk into work with an electric blue goatee, i'd get written up.

And to those that commented on my boobies here: you got trolled, sorry.

Sure, private companies could make that policy, but a public sector job would only be worried about what was legal and what wasn't.

The only reason not to allow your employees to use it is because insurance companies use it as an excuse not to pay. If they had to prove actual intoxication like with booze instead of mere use (minor use can show up to 6 months later in older women or people with metabolism issues), only people getting high at work would be affected.

No one but die hard authoritarian hardons actually cares if people toke up off the clock. (Excepting people who still believe the propaganda, which is not many educated folks)

As for the military, they own your ass.

You have clearly never worked for a city/county/state/federal government agency.


I have and they never told me I couldn't drink in my off hours. Why would weed be any different?
 
2012-09-11 11:25:55 PM
This is merely a ploy to get young folks to register to vote so the man can stick them with all those civic hassles like jury duty.
 
2012-09-11 11:33:52 PM
From a Libertarian standpoint I don't care what someone else chooses to do with their own body so long as they aren't forcing me to join them. Regarding the cost of enforcing prohibition, I'd like to see those billions of dollars currently going to private prisons, courts, and law enforcement get dumped into something like health care or education. There's only so much money and i think it'd do a lot more good there than in arresting, processing, trying, and jailing offenders.

Nothing is likely to change so long as there are millions of dollars to be made by keeping things the way they are. Law enforcement agencies are addicted to the money they receive from federal enforcement disbursements. They also get a ton from from private seizures and the confiscation of property they sell for profit. There are a lot of people lobbying against decriminalization from church/religious groups to insurance/pharmacy/medical groups. It was criminalized as a method to pick economic winners and losers and until it becomes an economic commodity for the people who buy elections nothing is changing.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2012-09-11 11:34:26 PM

CalamitousCrasher: gja: CalamitousCrasher: Stone Meadow: pxlboy: SovietCanuckistan: You American cats need to try some real, BC Bud. Blow the top off your Yoda bong.

This. Canadian herb is where it's at.

Well sure...if you can't get California bud.

Stop it people. I think the one thing both parties can agree on: mexican weed is, by far, the worst.

/just had me some girl scout cookie



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A Girl Scout's cookies?

Erm, strain I should have added. Calm down there.


LOL, I know, I am just farkin with ya......

/blame it on the whiskey, yeah...the sweet sweet single malt
 
2012-09-11 11:36:39 PM

Atomic Spunk: Tyranicle: It's easier and cheaper to purchase than alcohol. Has been for years. Not to mention free delivery with no tipping.

Yeah, I wish. If I want beer, I walk 3 blocks to the supermarket and buy myself a 12 pack. I'm back home in minutes.

If I want to buy weed, I call my connection. He tells me he'll be over at 6pm, but I'll be really lucky if he shows up by 8pm. Of course, he's stoned when he shows up, and doesn't bring the weed himself because he has to get it from "his guy". So I give him my money and wait. Then by 10pm, I'm starting to get antsy, so I call my connection and get his voicemail. He finally returns my call at 11pm, and apologizes. He couldn't hear the phone because he was playing video games at his guy's house. So he promises to stop playing video games and will be by to drop off my weed. By midnight, I give up and go to sleep. At 1:30am, my daughter comes into my room and tells me some guy came to her window asking for me. I go outside and it's my connection with my weed. He's totally shiatfaced. Gives me my weed and the bag looks small. I ask him if that's all, and he says he thinks it is, but when I look at the passenger seat in the car, I see a whole bunch of weed on it. "Is that my weed that spilled out of the bag onto your seat?" He laughs, apologizes, then reaches into his car and gives me the rest of my weed. Then, completely oblivious to the fact that it's 1:30am and he's driving through a quiet, upscale neighborhood, he cranks up Lil' Wayne loud on his car stereo and burns out right in front of my house.

It's been my experience that the people who sell weed are brain-addled and unreliable. I hate dealing with people like this. I'm a middle-aged professional and parent - the amount of people I know who actually still smoke weed I could probably count on one hand, so it's not as if it'd be easy for me to find another connection. If it were legal, I would be able to pick it up at my local convenience store and I wo ...


I smoke crack.
 
2012-09-11 11:43:55 PM

KaiserRoll: zixr: DeathByGeekSquad: I'd prefer to keep my cajones cancer free...

Well, you know what cures cancer, right? Marijuana!

Yea, so we legalize it, and then guess which companies start large scale production.


I bet Monsanto would get a kick out of this.
 
2012-09-11 11:46:27 PM
Well, the thought of having my kid taken away keeps me from going to the trouble of finding weed anymore, since my last dealer was a stupid a-hole who got himself spectacularly busted and I feel like I dodged a bullet, so I guess in that sense the laws work, but then the kid gets to deal with having a biatchier mom than he would have had, and that's not cool. The cat misses hotboxing in the bathroom, so he's biatchy too.
 
2012-09-11 11:48:57 PM

pxlboy: Stone Meadow: pxlboy: SovietCanuckistan: You American cats need to try some real, BC Bud. Blow the top off your Yoda bong.

This. Canadian herb is where it's at.

Well sure...if you can't get California bud.

Good call. Cali and Colorado also do it up right.


Please don't forget The Pakalolo.
50th State FTW
 
2012-09-12 12:02:55 AM

Atomic Spunk: Tyranicle: It's easier and cheaper to purchase than alcohol. Has been for years. Not to mention free delivery with no tipping.

Yeah, I wish. If I want beer, I walk 3 blocks to the supermarket and buy myself a 12 pack. I'm back home in minutes.

If I want to buy weed, I call my connection. He tells me he'll be over at 6pm, but I'll be really lucky if he shows up by 8pm. Of course, he's stoned when he shows up, and doesn't bring the weed himself because he has to get it from "his guy". So I give him my money and wait. Then by 10pm, I'm starting to get antsy, so I call my connection and get his voicemail. He finally returns my call at 11pm, and apologizes. He couldn't hear the phone because he was playing video games at his guy's house. So he promises to stop playing video games and will be by to drop off my weed. By midnight, I give up and go to sleep. At 1:30am, my daughter comes into my room and tells me some guy came to her window asking for me. I go outside and it's my connection with my weed. He's totally shiatfaced. Gives me my weed and the bag looks small. I ask him if that's all, and he says he thinks it is, but when I look at the passenger seat in the car, I see a whole bunch of weed on it. "Is that my weed that spilled out of the bag onto your seat?" He laughs, apologizes, then reaches into his car and gives me the rest of my weed. Then, completely oblivious to the fact that it's 1:30am and he's driving through a quiet, upscale neighborhood, he cranks up Lil' Wayne loud on his car stereo and burns out right in front of my house.

It's been my experience that the people who sell weed are brain-addled and unreliable. I hate dealing with people like this. I'm a middle-aged professional and parent - the amount of people I know who actually still smoke weed I could probably count on one hand, so it's not as if it'd be easy for me to find another connection. If it were legal, I would be able to pick it up at my local convenience store and I wouldn't have to put up with all kinds of crap just to buy it.


Oh man, I feel kinda bad. I just go to the store and buy the best stuff I've ever smoked in my life. Edibles too... sodas, baklava, gummi bears, olive oil, hash, earwax. Crazy.
 
2012-09-12 12:37:30 AM
Dude, I......I......
 
2012-09-12 01:53:04 AM
I was walking through the muni parking lot this morning and found a baggie full of loose weed and a few rolled joints just laying there on the ground.

Here's the funny part: I was wearing a shirt with a sort of badge-shaped crest on the left breast, khaki pants, black shoes and black belt, and aviator-style sunglasses. So I must have looked vaguely cop-like to the college-age stoner who showed up just a few seconds later, frantically looking on the ground.

I held up the bag and said "did you drop this?" and he booked off like a bat out of hell. He's probably STILL in his dorm room closet, wondering if it's safe to go out and buy some Cool Ranch Doritos.
 
2012-09-12 02:31:48 AM

tillerman35: I was walking through the muni parking lot this morning and found a baggie full of loose weed and a few rolled joints just laying there on the ground.

Here's the funny part: I was wearing a shirt with a sort of badge-shaped crest on the left breast, khaki pants, black shoes and black belt, and aviator-style sunglasses. So I must have looked vaguely cop-like to the college-age stoner who showed up just a few seconds later, frantically looking on the ground.

I held up the bag and said "did you drop this?" and he booked off like a bat out of hell. He's probably STILL in his dorm room closet, wondering if it's safe to go out and buy some Cool Ranch Doritos.


/sunglasses

....YEAAAAAAAAAAAAH!"
 
2012-09-12 07:22:43 AM

pxlboy: SovietCanuckistan: You American cats need to try some real, BC Bud. Blow the top off your Yoda bong.

This. Canadian herb is where it's at.


But it's illegal, right? So how on Earth would I ever possibly get my hands on some of this magical manna you're alleging is out there?
 
2012-09-12 07:53:35 AM
Not just the children, but to wean the states off Federal assistance for the prison industry. And that is really what our drug policy has made our prisons: an industry. Not really about crime, but profitizing the system.

Legalize it. Tax it. Let the market do its thing, and in the meantime, watch industries leap at the chance to actually make use of legal hemp and put competition back in the marketplace. This is the first reason for the illegality: competition. Paper, cotton, and drug companies do not want hemp or other products on the market, because they are heavily invested in the infrastructure to harvest their particular crops. Hemp's fast growing seasons, and its fairly large range would make it a great crop. And we don't want that. When you couple it with the Schedule that marijuana is on, then you can reap a lot of benefits if you look at arrests as a source of income. It boosts arrest stats. It boosts conviction stats. You look tough on crime when you look at simple numbers, and you still have seizure auctions to mine for property to browse through when you want a car, boat, or house. It is an easy revenue source when you are asking for aid, and to bolster your departments, and to expand prisons as well.

Legalizing marijuana would have a lot of benefits to the taxpayers, but no one likes to talk about them, not when it's easier to grouse about a "welfare state" and there are easier solutions to trimming budgets. Our police could be chasing real criminals, our courts could process faster, and our prison populations would shrink. And folks don't really want that, because a lot of folks make money on the system as it is, even if it is putting a burden on the taxpayers to continue it, and would put pressure on industries to retool and see competition in the marketplace. It boils down to money in the end, and a lot of folks are invested in keeping the nation paying through the nose for this recockulousness...
 
2012-09-12 10:15:14 AM

12349876: Rufus Lee King: Gothnet: Tyranicle: Why 'urge' to legalize? It's easier and cheaper to purchase than alcohol. Has been for years. Not to mention free delivery with no tipping.

Because then the cops would have to leave the black kids that smoke it alone as well as the white kids...

That's no joke by the way, inconsistent and racially motivated enforcement of the weed laws occurs in a lot of places.

See, now, there it goes. Being white, I can walk around smoking weed in public, and the cops will just leave me alone. You don't really believe that, I hope.

Well being white, the chance that you're walking around in a cop free area is much higher than it is for a minority.


Nice, obvious, but still nice. You'll get some bites.
 
2012-09-12 01:28:57 PM

Hale-Bopp: DaCaptain19: Hale-Bopp: So, anyone else planning their next vacation for Colorado? 

/legalization still leading in recent polls

Used to live in Colorado Springs. Every block (almost literally) there is a medical marijuana dispensary. You have to get a Dr. approval and go through a process which costs about $200 to get a card. I was going to then work moved me. BTW if you show up for the Dr. appointment you are classified as having medical need for marijuana. Just show up.

Now I'm in Chicago so yeah, illegal here but....who the f*ck cares about the laws of the land. Carrying a gun is against the law here, too, but that doesn't stop me.

Fu*k the feds...I hope Washington, D.C. is the epicenter of a nuclear bomb. Bring on the chaos!

Geez... I just want to get some really good weed and chill out, lol.


Yeah, I kinda went all over the place, didn't I?
 
2012-09-12 06:37:47 PM

DaCaptain19: Hale-Bopp: DaCaptain19: Hale-Bopp: So, anyone else planning their next vacation for Colorado? 

/legalization still leading in recent polls

Used to live in Colorado Springs. Every block (almost literally) there is a medical marijuana dispensary. You have to get a Dr. approval and go through a process which costs about $200 to get a card. I was going to then work moved me. BTW if you show up for the Dr. appointment you are classified as having medical need for marijuana. Just show up.

Now I'm in Chicago so yeah, illegal here but....who the f*ck cares about the laws of the land. Carrying a gun is against the law here, too, but that doesn't stop me.

Fu*k the feds...I hope Washington, D.C. is the epicenter of a nuclear bomb. Bring on the chaos!

Geez... I just want to get some really good weed and chill out, lol.

Yeah, I kinda went all over the place, didn't I?


In all seriousness, I learned a little something from your first paragraph. Had no idea it was that easy to get hooked up out there in CO. I don't have any personal connections out there, so everything I learn is word of mouth.

I have it in mind that if Colorado does in fact legalize it this November, by the same time next year the entire country will be flooded with nothing but the best weed (exported from CO) and Mexican weed will become a thing of the past. Mark my words. Can't wait.
 
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