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(WFMZ Allentown)   Parents: "Remove pornographic books from reading list" School Board: "Those books were completely optional and you were warned of the content and kids are exposed to worse language than that on a daily basis". Parents: "Derpy Derp"   (wfmz.com) divider line 228
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2012-09-11 01:11:45 PM
Fade by Robert Cormier was required reading in my 8th grade english class. That book was all kinds of farked up.
 
2012-09-11 01:20:11 PM
"As parents we work hard to guide our kids," said Wittman. "We want them to grow up to be upstanding citizens.

No you don't. You want them to grow up exactly like you did and not be exposed to anything that might be controversial or, I don't know, make you think outside your stupid little boundaries.
 
2012-09-11 01:23:01 PM
Wittman said "Prep" is on the 9th grade reading list and "Acid Test" is on the 10th grade list.

You want to censor what high school students read? Really REALLY?

My god, do you know what "Prep" is about? It takes place IN A HIGH SCHOOL.
 
2012-09-11 01:29:59 PM
Any farkers know what the actual 'problems' were?
 
2012-09-11 01:31:22 PM
If your ideology is too weak to stand up to your kid being exposed to something that doesn't agree with it, then you might want to re-think your ideology. If you've taught your kids properly, they'll be able to decide that bad things are, in fact, bad.
 
2012-09-11 01:32:02 PM

what_now: You want to censor what high school students read? Really REALLY?


Ya know, that's a good point. You'd figure they would want those books to be read. So when their whore of a daughter ends up pregnant at 17, they can blame the education system for teaching her how to whore it up.
 
2012-09-11 01:36:49 PM
MY GOD MY KIDS ARE ASKING ME QUESTIONS ABOUT SEX

/hides under bed
 
2012-09-11 01:37:41 PM
Let's use the Fark litmus test: Someone post the offending passages and, if the modmins don't remove it and/or you aren't perma-banned, then it's probably suitable reading for teenagers.
 
2012-09-11 01:39:06 PM

Coolfusis: If your ideology is too weak to stand up to your kid being exposed to something that doesn't agree with it


They weren't even exposed to it. It's just a reading list. It's not like they were given these books to read.

Basically what these parents are saying is that they don't even want their kids to know these books exist.
 
2012-09-11 01:42:27 PM
She said page 176 of "Acid Test" describes a drug and alcohol-induced gang bang "with detailed pornographic descriptions."

I would guess without knowing anything about the book that it is presented in a negative context.

But hey, if you want your daughter gang banged the first time she gets drunk, knock your socks off. Shelter away.
 
2012-09-11 01:45:04 PM
"As parents we work hard to guide our kids," said Wittman. "We want them to grow up to be upstanding citizens. We don't expect to be undermined by our own school district.

If reading Tom Wolfe is enough to undermine the morals and ethics that you've taught your kid, then you have already failed as a parent. Sit down and shut up.
 
2012-09-11 01:47:37 PM

Lucky LaRue: Let's use the Fark litmus test: Someone post the offending passages and, if the modmins don't remove it and/or you aren't perma-banned, then it's probably suitable reading for teenagers.


There's plenty of stuff that's suitable for teenagers that isn't suitable for fark.

Like Huckleberry Fin.
 
2012-09-11 01:53:57 PM
Things really have changed and gotten far more strict. When I was a HS Senior in 1979, we had a human sexuality class. There were discussions about porn, having sex, different kinds of sexuality, sex toys, etc. I can't imagine many schools allowing that sort of thing these days. Even with parental permission (which we had to get back then, too).
 
2012-09-11 01:54:38 PM

FloydA: If reading Tom Wolfe is enough to undermine the morals and ethics that you've taught your kid, then you have already failed as a parent. Sit down and shut up.


I'd pay money for a school board member to say this, word for word, to the parent in open session.
 
2012-09-11 01:55:04 PM
"As parents we work hard to guide our kids," said Wittman. "We want them to grow up to be upstanding citizens. We don't expect to be undermined by our own school district. The school board and administration owe the public an explanation about how pornographic material like this could be recommended to our children."

Damn. I can hear her vagina skreeking just from reading that.
 
2012-09-11 01:56:18 PM

Some Bass Playing Guy: can't imagine many schools allowing that sort of thing these days.


Eighth-grade health class, Pelham Junior High School, Pelham, NY. 1980. When we got to the human sexuality section, the first day the male teacher walked into the room, shut the door, turned to the class and said, and I quote: "95% of the boys in this room masturbate. The other five percent lie." (It was a coed class, btw.)

Yeah, if a teacher said that today...oy.
 
2012-09-11 02:01:48 PM

ferretman: Any farkers know what the actual 'problems' were?


I read Electric Koolaid Acid Test back in... oh yeah. High school. Yes, as you might have deduced from the title, there are drugs involved. And there are some sex scenes.

It's also an accurate picture of a critical period of time in our country's history, as told from the viewpoint of a marginalized segment of society.

I would let my HS kid read it.

Didn't read Prep.
 
2012-09-11 02:15:23 PM

Lucky LaRue: Let's use the Fark litmus test: Someone post the offending passages and, if the modmins don't remove it and/or you aren't perma-banned, then it's probably suitable reading for teenagers.


One day the older daughter said to the younger, "Our father is old, and there is no man around here to give us children-as is the custom all over the earth. Let's get our father to drink wine and then sleep with him and preserve our family line through our father."

That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and slept with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.

The next day the older daughter said to the younger, "Last night I slept with my father. Let's get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and sleep with him so we can preserve our family line through our father." So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.

So both of Lot's daughters became pregnant by their father.
 
2012-09-11 02:18:14 PM

impaler: Lucky LaRue: Let's use the Fark litmus test: Someone post the offending passages and, if the modmins don't remove it and/or you aren't perma-banned, then it's probably suitable reading for teenagers.

One day the older daughter said to the younger, "Our father is old, and there is no man around here to give us children-as is the custom all over the earth. Let's get our father to drink wine and then sleep with him and preserve our family line through our father."

That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and slept with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.

The next day the older daughter said to the younger, "Last night I slept with my father. Let's get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and sleep with him so we can preserve our family line through our father." So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.

So both of Lot's daughters became pregnant by their father.


Well done!
 
2012-09-11 02:19:51 PM

impaler: So both of Lot's daughters became pregnant by their father.


Fark is not your personal religious erotica site.
 
2012-09-11 02:22:03 PM

dramboxf: Some Bass Playing Guy: can't imagine many schools allowing that sort of thing these days.

Eighth-grade health class, Pelham Junior High School, Pelham, NY. 1980. When we got to the human sexuality section, the first day the male teacher walked into the room, shut the door, turned to the class and said, and I quote: "95% of the boys in this room masturbate. The other five percent lie." (It was a coed class, btw.)

Yeah, if a teacher said that today...oy.


We had no sex ed class whatsoever, and god knows our parents barely talked to us. We learned the truth about sex the old fashioned way: porn we had stolen from various dads, brothers, and convenience stores. Because that's the way Jesus intended.
 
2012-09-11 02:25:09 PM

kid_icarus: dramboxf: Some Bass Playing Guy: can't imagine many schools allowing that sort of thing these days.

Eighth-grade health class, Pelham Junior High School, Pelham, NY. 1980. When we got to the human sexuality section, the first day the male teacher walked into the room, shut the door, turned to the class and said, and I quote: "95% of the boys in this room masturbate. The other five percent lie." (It was a coed class, btw.)

Yeah, if a teacher said that today...oy.

We had no sex ed class whatsoever, and god knows our parents barely talked to us. We learned the truth about sex the old fashioned way: porn we had stolen from various dads, brothers, and convenience stores. Because that's the way Jesus intended.


shiat we had sex ed class in 5th grade (public school). Granted it was a one day class with a cartoon video, but there was still penetration. Had to get a permission slip signed by my parents to watch it.
 
2012-09-11 02:26:56 PM

dramboxf: FloydA: If reading Tom Wolfe is enough to undermine the morals and ethics that you've taught your kid, then you have already failed as a parent. Sit down and shut up.

I'd pay money for a school board member to say this, word for word, to the parent in open session.


I may have to run for school board.
 
2012-09-11 02:37:03 PM
In my high school we read Brave New World.

Even back then I said to myself "wow, this is pretty f*cked up, I wonder why no one has complained?"

/excellent book
 
2012-09-11 02:46:40 PM

scottydoesntknow:
We had no sex ed class whatsoever, and god knows our parents barely talked to us. We learned the truth about sex the old fashioned way: porn we had stolen from various dads, brothers, and convenience stores. Because that's the way Jesus intended.

shiat we had sex ed class in 5th grade (public school). Granted it was a one day class with a cartoon video, but there was still penetration. Had to get a permission slip signed by my parents to watch it.


In all seriousness, we really had no sex ed class (aside from physiology class where the body parts were discussed in the "reproduction chapter"). We did have a Health & Wellness class where (I think) it was suppose to be discussed, but I don't recall that it ever was.
I actually did learn all about the, uh...actual mechanics of sex from the first porn I saw at around 15.
 
2012-09-11 03:46:02 PM
25 posts and no one has mentioned that it was reported on 69 news.
 
2012-09-11 03:46:33 PM
"After the meeting, Seidenberger stressed no student is forced to read anything"

And there we have the root problem of the American edjakashiomal system.
 
2012-09-11 03:47:41 PM

Some Bass Playing Guy: Things really have changed and gotten far more strict. When I was a HS Senior in 1979, we had a human sexuality class. There were discussions about porn, having sex, different kinds of sexuality, sex toys, etc. I can't imagine many schools allowing that sort of thing these days. Even with parental permission (which we had to get back then, too).


I bet they told you it was required to graduate too. And it didn't show up on your transcripts due to a clerical error. And all the rooms were full, so it took place in the empty lot behind the shop building. And it IS odd how no one else remembers having to take that class or any other class with Miss Triss.
 
2012-09-11 03:48:11 PM
how many of the complaining mothers likely had 50 shades of grey on their e reader?
 
2012-09-11 03:50:37 PM

Rev.K: In my high school we read Brave New World.

Even back then I said to myself "wow, this is pretty f*cked up, I wonder why no one has complained?"

/excellent book


I was discussing 1984 with my 13 year old, suggesting she read it. I wondered for a minute if she was old enough, then realized that I must have been 10 or 11 when I read it, because I clearly remember thinking, "That's not even four years away!" (turned 14 in 1984)

Then I realized that my almost 14 year old is way behind on some really good books and we need to make a trip to the bookstore.
 
2012-09-11 03:50:39 PM
scottydoesntknow

kid_icarus: dramboxf: Some Bass Playing Guy: can't imagine many schools allowing that sort of thing these days.

Eighth-grade health class, Pelham Junior High School, Pelham, NY. 1980. When we got to the human sexuality section, the first day the male teacher walked into the room, shut the door, turned to the class and said, and I quote: "95% of the boys in this room masturbate. The other five percent lie." (It was a coed class, btw.)

Yeah, if a teacher said that today...oy.

We had no sex ed class whatsoever, and god knows our parents barely talked to us. We learned the truth about sex the old fashioned way: porn we had stolen from various dads, brothers, and convenience stores. Because that's the way Jesus intended.

shiat we had sex ed class in 5th grade (public school). Granted it was a one day class with a cartoon video, but there was still penetration. Had to get a permission slip signed by my parents to watch it.



Probably explains why you so farked up as an adult.
 
2012-09-11 03:50:49 PM

impaler: Lucky LaRue: Let's use the Fark litmus test: Someone post the offending passages and, if the modmins don't remove it and/or you aren't perma-banned, then it's probably suitable reading for teenagers.

One day the older daughter said to the younger, "Our father is old, and there is no man around here to give us children-as is the custom all over the earth. Let's get our father to drink wine and then sleep with him and preserve our family line through our father."

That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and slept with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.

The next day the older daughter said to the younger, "Last night I slept with my father. Let's get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and sleep with him so we can preserve our family line through our father." So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.

So both of Lot's daughters became pregnant by their father.


Wincest!
 
2012-09-11 03:51:04 PM
Ah Pennsyltucky.
 
2012-09-11 03:51:33 PM

kungfu jesus with a side of lime: how many of the complaining mothers likely had 50 shades of grey on their e reader?


I can't believe it took 29 posts for someone to offer this.

Fark, I am disappoint.
 
2012-09-11 03:52:30 PM
From 69 news.

With little 69 logos all over the page.

*snicker*
 
2012-09-11 03:52:38 PM
Sounds like these parents would miserably fail their parenting exam.
 
2012-09-11 03:52:58 PM
kungfu jesus with a side of lime


how many of the complaining mothers likely had 50 shades of grey on their e reader?



and a dildo in their nightstand?
 
2012-09-11 03:53:38 PM

impaler: Lucky LaRue: Let's use the Fark litmus test: Someone post the offending passages and, if the modmins don't remove it and/or you aren't perma-banned, then it's probably suitable reading for teenagers.

One day the older daughter said to the younger, "Our father is old, and there is no man around here to give us children-as is the custom all over the earth. Let's get our father to drink wine and then sleep with him and preserve our family line through our father."

That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and slept with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.

The next day the older daughter said to the younger, "Last night I slept with my father. Let's get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and sleep with him so we can preserve our family line through our father." So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.

So both of Lot's daughters became pregnant by their father.


This passage is probably expurgated from the New Revised Improved Family version read by most Jeebus aficionados.
 
2012-09-11 03:53:50 PM

Huck Chaser: Fade by Robert Cormier was required reading in my 8th grade english class. That book was all kinds of farked up.


I got annoyed with Cormier as a tween. I have no idea why English teachers thought he was so awesome, but I had to read that and The Chocolate War and I am the Cheese, each one in a different school. His style was like fingernails on a blackboard to me.
 
2012-09-11 03:55:17 PM

Coolfusis: If your ideology is too weak to stand up to your kid being exposed to something that doesn't agree with it, then you might want to re-think your ideology. If you've taught your kids properly, they'll be able to decide that bad things are, in fact, bad.


This is an interesting one for me because I am a co-parent. Their mom is religious and I used to be but now not so much. It is a difficult issue to deal with because I want to respect their mother (the filthy cheating whore that she is) but I want them to come to their own conclusions about religion. They are young still (10 and 7) so most of the time when they ask what I believe I tell them "it isn't important what I believe, what is important is what you believe" and when they ask specific questions about mom's mythology (I am a fairly knowledgable former Christian, ironically indepth study is what made me a non-believer) I tell them "some people believe this... but some don't agree". I often wonder at what point I will be able to tell them what I believe without mom going ape-shiat.


My step kids came home with lists of books they were going to read independantly throughout the year and some required parental permission. I made them choose at least one book from the "needs permission" list. When asked why I told them, "If someone doesn't want you to read something, you should."
 
2012-09-11 03:55:31 PM
I was actually thinking about my "required" reading in the 7th and 8th grade the other day. On the list were books such as Animal Farm, 1984, Wuthering Heights, Farenheit 451, etc.

I was thinking how the themes of such books really go straight over most readers heads at that age. I wish we could have started such books at a much older age, like 16 or so rather than 12 or so. I would have appreciated them much more.

I def think "Acid Test" would have gone straight over people's heads at 13 or so. 17? Not so much.
 
2012-09-11 03:55:59 PM

halB: "After the meeting, Seidenberger stressed no student is forced to read anything"

And there we have the root problem of the American edjakashiomal system.


I think (I want to believe) that he meant it the way that our district does. There's a long list of books for each grade, and each student must pick two or more (the number depends on level) for summer reading. The letter goes home to parents to please preview the books and choose some that are appropriate for your children. There are always a few cupcake G rated boring books on there for the fundie parents. Very few parents actually bother to read the books ahead of their children, but the option is there.

So no one is forced to read any particular book, but they have to read something.
 
2012-09-11 03:56:00 PM
gf
 
2012-09-11 03:56:32 PM
I can't farking stand helicopter parents.
 
2012-09-11 03:56:59 PM
...oops, what i meant was:
www.destgulch.com
 
2012-09-11 03:57:09 PM
When I was in school, my teacher confiscated my ocarina in sex-ed class.
 
2012-09-11 03:58:07 PM
At least they picked the correct TV channel to report it.

img0.fark.net

/that was great, but I don't think I can do it 68 more times.
 
2012-09-11 03:59:32 PM

jst3p: My step kids came home with lists of books they were going to read independantly throughout the year and some required parental permission. I made them choose at least one book from the "needs permission" list. When asked why I told them, "If someone doesn't want you to read something, you should."


If there were a parenting exam, I think you'd pass just on this alone.
 
2012-09-11 03:59:52 PM

ferretman: Any farkers know what the actual 'problems' were?


The parents.
 
2012-09-11 04:00:36 PM
Tom Wolfe - The ElectricKool-Aid Acid Test:

"THE HELL'S ANGELS PARTY WENT ON FOR TWO DAYS AND THE cops never moved in. Everybody, Angels and Pranksters, had a righteous time and no headswere broken. There had been one gang-bang, but the girl was a volunteer. It was her movie. In fact, for the next six or seven weeks, it was one long party with the Angels.The news spread around intellectual-hip circles in the San Francisco-Berkeley arealike a legend. In these circles, anyway, it once and for all put Kesey and the Prankstersup above the category of just another weirdo intellectual group."

I hope I don't get perma-banned for posting this abhorrent pornography.
 
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