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(Gothamist)   Teenager wins $14.5 million from the company that made the baseball bat that hit the ball that struck him, spilling his hot coffee onto very expensive pants, hit the pole and dropped the net onto his plastic mice   (gothamist.com) divider line 105
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2012-09-11 01:33:05 PM
Anything that helps get these cheater bats out of youth sports is fine by me.
 
2012-09-11 01:44:37 PM
*rtfa*

What's his FARK handle?
 
2012-09-11 02:10:55 PM
I've never liked the metal bats, feeling that they cheapen the game.

I've listened to both sides (wood and metal) defend their bats and heard about how well the metal bat does and why it does it, but when all the BS stops, the game was created around a wooden bat and wood has greater benefits than metal.

Besides, I prefer to hear the KRAK of a solid wooden bat connecting with the ball than that stupid ping!

I don't think you'd find the Brits trading in their wooden bats for their traditional game of Cricket to use aluminum ones. That'd start a riot.

Of course, now you get to consider the ecological problem. The best bats are made from Oak. Oak trees are slow growing and much in demand for wood. Is it right to strip a forest for a game?

Then again, they do it for toothpicks.

Plus there is the feel of a good, wooden bat in one's hands that absolutely can't be copied by metal.
 
2012-09-11 02:12:34 PM
That's farked up. I don't even have any snark. I doubt the $145-million is any consolation.

...well, that is a lot of money.
 
2012-09-11 02:14:27 PM

Rik01: Of course, now you get to consider the ecological problem. The best bats are made from Oak. Oak trees are slow growing and much in demand for wood. Is it right to strip a forest for a game?


Some bats are made from maple and ash.
 
2012-09-11 02:20:28 PM

Mugato: That's farked up. I don't even have any snark. I doubt the $145-million is any consolation.

...well, that is a lot of money.


$14 point 5 million. You're off by an order of magnitude.

Still, that's a very expensive Mouse Trap.
 
2012-09-11 02:25:34 PM

xanadian: *rtfa*

What's his FARK handle?


Dunno, but he's over in the politics tab for sure.
Farking dumbasses in this world.
If anyone was liable to keep him breathing for 15 - 20 minutes, it would be Mr CPR trained coach.
But since he spends his time volunteering, he has no money in his pockets.
Better to go after the Ball manufact...oh? The don't have money/
Then the Bat people. SUE THE BAT PEOPLE!.
Kid should have been wearing chest protection and his parents didn't make him wear it.
I hope the Bat people beat his parents right out of the courtroom and make them feel like bad parents, because they are and they should feel bad.
Also, I give my self a pre-emptive 8/10 on this.
But I'm also dead serious.
 
2012-09-11 02:37:21 PM

King Something: $14 point 5 million. You're off by an order of magnitude.


I just copied and pasted from the title. I don't like to typ
 
2012-09-11 02:44:46 PM

vudukungfu: If anyone was liable to keep him breathing for 15 - 20 minutes, it would be Mr CPR trained coach.


I agree with ya' here.
Really??? NOBODY watching the game knew CPR.
Hell even before I got trained I got my son breathing once when he was 3, while my CPR "trained" stupid ex-wife was screaming at the 911 operator.
I just did what I'd seen on tv a million times, hell somebody at least try.
 
2012-09-11 02:55:52 PM

old_toole: I just did what I'd seen on tv a million times, hell somebody at least try.


You delivered hammer fists to his chest while screaming "BREATHE, DAMN YOU!!!"?

/Reason metal bats are still used at the amateur level: wooden bats break.
 
2012-09-11 02:59:52 PM
And people scoff at limitations of liability
 
2012-09-11 03:09:21 PM

Harv72b: You delivered hammer fists to his chest while screaming "BREATHE, DAMN YOU!!!"?


OK that made me laugh.
Wasn't quite what I was thinking but HAHAHAHA
 
2012-09-11 03:13:44 PM
And people wonder why we move manufacturing over seas.
 
2012-09-11 03:46:39 PM

vudukungfu: But I'm also dead serious.


No, I feel you. Uh. Not *FEEL* you, but feel you. This country is too damn litigious.
 
2012-09-11 03:50:14 PM

Rik01: I've never liked the metal bats gloves or catchers' pads or machine-created baseballs or finely curated fields or not chewing tobacco all game or the idea that the game could be played as a career or pitchers not pitching every other day for every pitch, feeling that they cheapen the game.


FTFY
 
2012-09-11 03:56:03 PM

Rik01: I've never liked the metal bats, feeling that they cheapen the game.

I've listened to both sides (wood and metal) defend their bats and heard about how well the metal bat does and why it does it, but when all the BS stops, the game was created around a wooden bat and wood has greater benefits than metal.

Besides, I prefer to hear the KRAK of a solid wooden bat connecting with the ball than that stupid ping!

I don't think you'd find the Brits trading in their wooden bats for their traditional game of Cricket to use aluminum ones.



Yeah, but it's only because they can't pronounce that word.
 
2012-09-11 04:05:05 PM
The little league team decided to allow its use, knowing the ratings ahead of time. The parents allowed the kid to play baseball, knowing they used metal bats.

So why do they get to use the manufacturer of the bat, instead of ONLY the little league management? Oh right, because the little league wouldn't have $14.5 million to spare.
 
2012-09-11 04:16:48 PM
I'm sure his parents would much rather have a normal kid than any amount of money.
 
2012-09-11 04:17:17 PM
So ... by this judgement's logic, we can sue gun manufacturers for guns killing people?
 
2012-09-11 04:17:33 PM

Harv72b: old_toole: I just did what I'd seen on tv a million times, hell somebody at least try.

You delivered hammer fists to his chest while screaming "BREATHE, DAMN YOU!!!"?

/Reason metal bats are still used at the amateur level: wooden bats break.


Think I saw two, maybe three bats break in my little league career. The reason metal bats are used is because the ball carries farther. Hate 'em.

/*crack* beats *ping* every day
 
2012-09-11 04:19:39 PM
If the bats were super dangerouns this kind of think would happen more often. This sounds more like an event that happened out of millions of events, meaning it was more bad luck and likely slow reflexes than ot was a dangerous bat.

I'm so tired of people ignoring risks of every day life and then sueing someone when one of those risks bites them in the ass.

Yes, I feel badly for the kid, but there is no one to blame here except God, if you believe in him. I mean, he does control everything, right?
 
2012-09-11 04:20:05 PM
Learn to read everyone. It's a settlement, not a judgment.
 
2012-09-11 04:20:28 PM
While this is a tragic accident that happened to the kid, it's part of the game. You are the pitcher. You are in direct line with the path of a baseball if hit. Was it illegal to use a metal bat at that time (the article didn't say)? If so, then it's the league's fault, not the bat manufacturer's fault - I'm surprised that the gun manufacturers aren't balking at this ruling.
 
2012-09-11 04:21:00 PM
so if this kid got hit with a ball from a wood bat, none of this would have happened right?, cause clearly that ball would have been going slower by at least 30 -40 mph, this ruling is a crock of shait
 
2012-09-11 04:21:11 PM
Subby. I like your headline.

that is all
 
2012-09-11 04:25:30 PM

Rik01: I don't think you'd find the Brits trading in their wooden bats for their traditional game of Cricket to use aluminum ones. That'd start a riot..


It was tried precisely once by those cheating convicts the Aussies, it nearly did start a riot, and it was promptly banned.

/There's nothing like the sound of leather on willow
 
2012-09-11 04:30:34 PM

PsyLord: While this is a tragic accident that happened to the kid, it's part of the game. You are the pitcher. You are in direct line with the path of a baseball if hit. Was it illegal to use a metal bat at that time (the article didn't say)? If so, then it's the league's fault, not the bat manufacturer's fault - I'm surprised that the gun manufacturers aren't balking at this ruling.


Thing is, it has nothing to do with the bat (or very little). It's a condition that has happened in other sports (lacrosse for example), where a couple kids have died after getting hit in the chest at just the right spot at just the right time.

Rather than change the bats or blame the bats, they should look into making the pitchers, maybe all the infielders, wear a chest protector under their uniforms. It doesn't have to be anything big or bulky.
 
2012-09-11 04:34:40 PM
Metal bat cartel?
 
2012-09-11 04:35:46 PM

Wall_of_Doodoo: Metal bat cartel?


Forget it, he's rolling.
 
2012-09-11 04:39:39 PM
Has Brandon McCarthy filed his lawsuit yet?

Baseball, while safer than some sports can still be dangerous...With or without aluminum bats or PED enhanced ball players.
 
2012-09-11 04:43:49 PM

drewsclues: Learn to read everyone. It's a settlement, not a judgment.


Had to go back and look.

Unf*ckingbelievable.

We're done.
 
2012-09-11 04:46:11 PM
I'm surprised they didn't also sue the helmet manufacturers who failed to produced a helmet that would adequately protect his tender cranium without him having to wear it.
 
2012-09-11 04:47:40 PM

Foxxinnia: I'm surprised they didn't also sue the helmet manufacturers who failed to produced a helmet that would adequately protect his tender cranium without him having to wear it.


He got hit in the chest
 
2012-09-11 04:49:14 PM

Rik01: Of course, now you get to consider the ecological problem. The best bats are made from Oak. Oak trees are slow growing and much in demand for wood. Is it right to strip a forest for a game?


Wooden bats are historically made from ash wood. Maple is in fashion now but the better bats are from ash. Maple bats tend to shatter when they break, due to the cellular structure.
 
2012-09-11 04:49:29 PM

The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: I'm sure his parents would much rather have a normal kid than any amount of money.


So, because my son's kneecap was fractured playing soccer, I should file suit against the maker of the shoe worn by the other player? Sucks for the kid and the parents but I fail to see how the bat manufacturer is at fault.

drewsclues: Learn to read everyone. It's a settlement, not a judgment.


Thanks, missed that. How does "awarded a $xxx settlement" work; does this mean the judge approved a settlement between plaintiff and defendant?
 
2012-09-11 04:50:25 PM

The Muthaship: Foxxinnia: I'm surprised they didn't also sue the helmet manufacturers who failed to produced a helmet that would adequately protect his tender cranium without him having to wear it.

He got hit in the chest


Exactly.
 
2012-09-11 04:51:01 PM

Foxxinnia: The Muthaship: Foxxinnia: I'm surprised they didn't also sue the helmet manufacturers who failed to produced a helmet that would adequately protect his tender cranium without him having to wear it.

He got hit in the chest

Exactly.


I like it. Are you licensed to practice in Federal court?;)
 
2012-09-11 04:53:43 PM
This injury occured from one of those composite bats that are now forbidden in Little League play.

"Little League said injuries to its pitchers fell from 145 a year before the accord was reached to the current level of about 20 to 30 annually."

When your product causes around a 700% increase in injuries to your customers --right or wrong, you are going to get sued.

Anyone seen Klick Klacks or Lawn Darts around lately?
 
2012-09-11 04:56:44 PM
Careful, subby. People around here get very angry if you suggest the McDonald's coffee lawsuit was a frivolous one.
 
2012-09-11 04:58:51 PM

Odd Bird: The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: I'm sure his parents would much rather have a normal kid than any amount of money.

So, because my son's kneecap was fractured playing soccer, I should file suit against the maker of the shoe worn by the other player? Sucks for the kid and the parents but I fail to see how the bat manufacturer is at fault.

drewsclues: Learn to read everyone. It's a settlement, not a judgment.

Thanks, missed that. How does "awarded a $xxx settlement" work; does this mean the judge approved a settlement between plaintiff and defendant?


Instead of going to a jury trial and being in the hands of 12 peers (that I'm assuming could have awarded them even more), the defendant offered a settlement that the plaintiff agreed on and the case was dropped.
 
2012-09-11 05:01:56 PM

The Muthaship: Foxxinnia: I'm surprised they didn't also sue the helmet manufacturers who failed to produced a helmet that would adequately protect his tender cranium without him having to wear it.

He got hit in the chest


The helmet was supposed to dive into the path of the ball dumbass.
 
2012-09-11 05:02:16 PM

mjones73: Instead of going to a jury trial and being in the hands of 12 peers (that I'm assuming could have awarded them even more), the defendant offered a settlement that the plaintiff agreed on and the case was dropped.


Yep. If you have deep pockets you are almost certainly better off settling than you are letting a jury of your "peers" decide if you owe and how much.
 
2012-09-11 05:02:54 PM
If we lived in a country with socialized health care, this type of lawsuit would not happen. The parents would not be left with a lawsuit as their only option to fund the lifetime of care that this kid needs.

It's amazing to me that the same people that want to limit lawsuit award size ("tort reform") are some of the same people that are against healthcare reform.
 
2012-09-11 05:03:02 PM
Just wondering why the parents didn't include suing all those present at the game, the batter, the park they played the game in, oh, and the pitcher...

Wait, he WAS the pitcher! So in essence he was responsible for the incident the entire time. Hopefully they'll appeal. I feel bad for the kid but that's life and you don't get rewarded for accidents. Plus, isn't there a mandatory insurance policy in place?
 
2012-09-11 05:07:28 PM

srhp29: Has Brandon McCarthy filed his lawsuit yet?


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He's got other things on his mind, apparently.
 
2012-09-11 05:08:06 PM

Harv72b: /Reason metal bats are still used at the amateur level: wooden bats break.


That's one reason, but it, along with the rest of the "reasons" are all poor excuses for putting children at risk.

lunchinlewis: Rather than change the bats or blame the bats, they should look into making the pitchers, maybe all the infielders, wear a chest protector under their uniforms. It doesn't have to be anything big or bulky.


Good point, but metal bats are unnecessarily dangerous.

Odd Bird: So, because my son's kneecap was fractured playing soccer, I should file suit against the maker of the shoe worn by the other player? Sucks for the kid and the parents but I fail to see how the bat manufacturer is at fault.


They make a product that endangers the users. Why shouldn't they be liable? You might as well give a four year old a bag of glass to play with and advise them to "be careful with that."

Baseball should be played with wooden bats - at all levels. Not because it's tradition, or because it's easier for a kid to hit a homer with it and keep them interested in the game, or because of the feel of a wooden bat, or because it prepares them for the pros, but because balls come off a metal bat at absurdly high velocity, often directly toward players who are untrained to defend themselves against it.
 
2012-09-11 05:08:14 PM

Rik01: I've never liked the metal bats, feeling that they cheapen the game.

I've listened to both sides (wood and metal) defend their bats and heard about how well the metal bat does and why it does it, but when all the BS stops, the game was created around a wooden bat and wood has greater benefits than metal.

Besides, I prefer to hear the KRAK of a solid wooden bat connecting with the ball than that stupid ping!

I don't think you'd find the Brits trading in their wooden bats for their traditional game of Cricket to use aluminum ones. That'd start a riot.

Of course, now you get to consider the ecological problem. The best bats are made from Oak. Oak trees are slow growing and much in demand for wood. Is it right to strip a forest for a game?

Then again, they do it for toothpicks.

Plus there is the feel of a good, wooden bat in one's hands that absolutely can't be copied by metal.


All of that bullshiat aside, metal bats don't increase the speed of the ball off of the bat all that much compared to woodenb bats. Metal bats offer a few benefits, however. They are lighter. Most...and I mean most...kids are not strong enough to swing a wooden bat and be able to keep up with pitching. Second, metal bats offer a larger sweet spot, which increases the chances of hitting the ball well. Having played for decades and played with both metal and wooden bats, I never really saw a difference when the ball hits the sweet spot. However, wooden bats also have a few drawbacks other than being too heavy for kids. They break. I almost speared a third baseman with a broke bat once. I also did nail a catcher with a broken barrell once. He was ok, but walked funny for the rest of the game. Fact is, there are risks with being an athlete and this is one of them. I'm sorry the kid got screwed up from a liner, but he could have just easily been killed by a line drive off of a wooden bat.
 
2012-09-11 05:09:32 PM

The Muthaship: Foxxinnia: The Muthaship: Foxxinnia: I'm surprised they didn't also sue the helmet manufacturers who failed to produced a helmet that would adequately protect his tender cranium without him having to wear it.

He got hit in the chest

Exactly.

I like it. Are you licensed to practice in Federal court?;)


Federal, international maritime, Islamic, b-ball, I got what you need.
 
2012-09-11 05:11:06 PM

MyPenIsHuge: Wait, he WAS the pitcher! So in essence he was responsible for the incident the entire time. Hopefully they'll appeal.


No, blame his coach for not taking him out of the game when his curve ball started floating up over the middle of the plate.
 
2012-09-11 05:11:08 PM
They should be blaming the doctors that brought him back after being without oxygen for 15-20 minutes. His death would have been due to an accident, bringing him back after not breathing for so long has pretty obvious consequences that anyone with medical training would have known about.
 
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