HeadLever: xynix: This why to me it's a non-topic.Here is your 'non-topic' in graphical form:[garyk.com image 640x466]Looks like it may just - in fact - be a topic
HeadLever: X-boxershorts: You farking idiots who buy into the austerity bullshiat....Austerity is not necessarily the same as doing away with social saftey nets. In fact, you can cut spending by quite a bit and leave the safety net alone. If you think that the only ones that suggest we pull back on the spending reigns are those same folks that want to 'kill the poor' or some other retarded talkking point you have the partisan blinders on.
HeadLever: X-boxershorts: Cut their taxes again? FARK NO!!! Raise the top marginal rate to 90% again,,,,and build some god damned schools, roads, bridges and a new electrical grid. Those fark sticks can suck my anusU Mad?Seriously, quit with the devisive BS, It is time we suck it up and fight for getting our fiscal house in order. That is going to take serious will power from both sides. Making it an 'us vs them' issue only drives the sides further away from every making this happen.
HeadLever: X-boxershorts: meager American social safety netMeager? You mean the $815 billion we spend in Medicare/medicaid? Or how about the $750 billion we spend in Social Security? Maybe the $370 Billion we spend on other Income Security programs?Add that up and that is about 2 Trillion per year we spend on this 'meager' saftey net. That is about 12.6% of the GDP. Per capita, that cost is about $6200 per citizen and about $17,000 per person that files income taxes.Add in what we pay each year in interest on the extended federal debt and you have effectly used up all federal goverment tax revenue.I personally like the idea of having a saftey net for those that really need it. However, we need to balance it with what we can afford in the long term
CmndrFish: Hauser's Law is not a law. You can look at pretty much any other country in the Western world, because they all manage to collect over 20% GDP of taxes.
GranoblasticMan: 2080? You honestly think nothing will change in 60 years?
HeadLever: GranoblasticMan: 2080? You honestly think nothing will change in 60 years?Did you read the title to the graph?
HeadLever: I am not sure why you stay with the pie in the sky dream that we can be like someone else where the circumstances are completely different. The Netherlands is a very homogenous population that has a land area about 1/2 the size of South Carolina with a population of 16 million (about the same population density as Rhode Island.
X-boxershorts: Austerity ALWAYS ends up being taken out on the poor.
GranoblasticMan: Yes, I did. And if nothing changes in 60 years, I'm not sure how you can blame it on Obama.
CmndrFish: The size of our government scales up with the size of our population.
HeadLever: One thing is for certain, those that blissfuly wrap themselves in ignorance and partisan talking points are those that are keeping the solutions to these problems from being realized. Yes, that goes for both sides.
X-boxershorts: Cite where I am wrong.
HeadLever: X-boxershorts: Cite where I am wrong....Never mind. I don't need your shiat. Rot your brain at your own expense fool.And there it is. The classic 'LALALALALA! I can't hear you!' dribble that keep the narrow minded safley cloaked in ignorance. Folks like you make good sheep.
that1guy77: He lost a long time go, which is why he tried to flip the tables around via spewing that last little insult, claimed you're essentially clueless and then gave up on the hopeless 're-educationing' of you. I'm sure he won't be coming back soon... and that you saw it, too..
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