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(Salon)   More and more Republicans are calling on Mitt Romney to reveal his tax records and, y'know, actually express an opinion on things like foreign policy, the national debt, and health care instead of relying on his OBAMA BAD platform   (salon.com) divider line 202
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2012-09-11 09:47:37 AM
Don't take away the two minutes hate.
 
2012-09-11 09:51:50 AM
Mitt would actually have to have the integrity to stand by a position and belief, and I think we all know he is incapable of that.
 
2012-09-11 09:53:32 AM
"OBAMA BAD platform" is all he has. Good luck Mitt, The GOP is counting on you.
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2012-09-11 09:57:59 AM
Could somebody please give me a reason why to vote for Mitt Romney other than he is not Barack Obama?
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-09-11 09:59:42 AM
I don't think the "I avoided prosecution for tax evasion by taking the IRS amnesty" platform is going to be a big hit.
 
2012-09-11 09:59:56 AM
Cut to the chase. Just give us 2009 and then drop out.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-09-11 10:01:24 AM

Serious Black: Could somebody please give me a reason why to vote for Mitt Romney other than he is not Barack Obama?


He's white. And his horse dances.
 
2012-09-11 10:03:32 AM

Serious Black: Could somebody please give me a reason why to vote for Mitt Romney other than he is not Barack Obama?


Nope. Or vice versa. Their corporate bosses are not going to let them change things too much.
 
2012-09-11 10:05:39 AM

Serious Black: Could somebody please give me a reason why to vote for Mitt Romney John Kerry other than he is not Barack Obama George Bush?


Because it worked so well before.
 
2012-09-11 10:08:32 AM

Serious Black: Could somebody please give me a reason why to vote for Mitt Romney other than he is not Barack Obama?


He's white and he's not a registered Democrat. His wife always seems to wear tops with sleeves and she's blonde. Netanyahu seems to like him a little more. He pinky-swears that he'll 'fix the economy' and also "add 12 million jobs" while taking a hard line with Iraq Iran and keeping those awful Soviets in check.
 
2012-09-11 10:09:34 AM
A different kind of dog whistle. These are the things unconsolable Republicans will go back to in late November as they try to make some sense of their sad, bitter lives. Eventually we'll find that much like the end of W's presidency when people became retro-independants by the busload, GOP shills will claim they cooled over Romney after the conventions and didn't support him because of him not having a platform or releasing his taxes. They'll all have voted for him, or have written in Lavrenty Beria, despite these claims.
 
2012-09-11 10:10:28 AM

quatchi: Cut to the chase. Just give us 2009 and then drop out.


dropping out is fine, so long as it's after the time when it's too late to re-print ballots ;)
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-09-11 10:20:15 AM
peterjsullivan.files.wordpress.com

I think they see the writing on the wall and are trying to distance themselves from the fail.
 
2012-09-11 10:23:23 AM
Just... argh. They played a clip of Mitt this morning where he was doing his schtick adding talking points to the pledge, and I just about threw up in my mouth when he said, "I will not take God out of my heart, I will not take God out of the public square and I will not take it out of the platform of my party."

... GODAMNNIT ALL SO MUCH. WHY THE FARK DO WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS. GOD HAS NO FARKING PLACE IN THE FARKING GOVERNMENT, SHOULD NEVER BE QUOTED AS A REASON TO RUN OR REASON TO PUSH FOR LEGISLATION, OR EVER.

Sorry. Sorry. But the moron won't come out about any of his talking points, won't identify what he'll do, or really say anything. He does realize he will be creamed in the debates, right? Even if he finally reveals his plan at the debates, Obama will eviscerate him the moment he opens his mouth.
 
2012-09-11 10:24:04 AM
Yeah that'll happen.
 
2012-09-11 10:26:33 AM
I find it interesting that he mentioned he'd like to keep the pre-existing conditions part of ObamaCare, but his campaign then quickly "corrected" his stance on that. Very revealing that the platform he's running on isn't actually what he believes in. No wonder he has trouble connecting to voters, he's an empty suit.
 
2012-09-11 10:27:00 AM

vpb: I think they see the writing on the wall and are trying to distance themselves from the fail.


Nah, they're only good at doing that after the fact. So Mitt Romney won't be invited to the 2016 RNC.
 
2012-09-11 10:28:30 AM

BrynnMacFlynn: Just... argh. They played a clip of Mitt this morning where he was doing his schtick adding talking points to the pledge, and I just about threw up in my mouth when he said, "I will not take God out of my heart, I will not take God out of the public square and I will not take it out of the platform of my party."

... GODAMNNIT ALL SO MUCH. WHY THE FARK DO WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS. GOD HAS NO FARKING PLACE IN THE FARKING GOVERNMENT, SHOULD NEVER BE QUOTED AS A REASON TO RUN OR REASON TO PUSH FOR LEGISLATION, OR EVER.

Sorry. Sorry. But the moron won't come out about any of his talking points, won't identify what he'll do, or really say anything. He does realize he will be creamed in the debates, right? Even if he finally reveals his plan at the debates, Obama will eviscerate him the moment he opens his mouth.


I don't think the ABO people really care. One of my Prosperity Gospel thumper FB friends posted yesterday that he thinks Mitt needs to start treating this like a "death-match brawl," and that he needs to start airing ads of the Democrats booing God over and over again.
 
2012-09-11 10:28:35 AM

make me some tea: Very revealing that the platform he's running on isn't actually what he believes in.


Was this really something which needed "revealing"?
 
2012-09-11 10:29:28 AM

make me some tea: I find it interesting that he mentioned he'd like to keep the pre-existing conditions part of ObamaCare, but his campaign then quickly "corrected" his stance on that. Very revealing that the platform he's running on isn't actually what he believes in. No wonder he has trouble connecting to voters, he's an empty suit.


That's what they want. Or at least what Grover Norquist wants, that is: somebody to sign whatever shiat Congress puts in front of him.
 
2012-09-11 10:30:41 AM

DamnYankees: make me some tea: Very revealing that the platform he's running on isn't actually what he believes in.

Was this really something which needed "revealing"?


To some people, yes.
 
2012-09-11 10:31:23 AM

make me some tea: he's an empty suit chair

 
2012-09-11 10:32:34 AM

make me some tea: DamnYankees: make me some tea: Very revealing that the platform he's running on isn't actually what he believes in.

Was this really something which needed "revealing"?

To some people, yes.


But for those people, do you really think an article like this will change their mind? "You can't trust the liebrul media in this country. Not like them nice folks on Fox News.
 
2012-09-11 10:33:10 AM

Serious Black: I don't think the ABO people really care. One of my Prosperity Gospel thumper FB friends posted yesterday that he thinks Mitt needs to start treating this like a "death-match brawl," and that he needs to start airing ads of the Democrats booing God over and over again.


I know, and that just makes me so incredibly depressed. I want to know what the hell is wrong with a "keep it to yourself" policy about religion--I don't need to hear about it, I don't care about it, and unless I ask you about your religion, don't bring it up. That way everyone's happy--you're free to practice your religion all you want, and I don't have my rights trampled because your God is so special. What the hell is so damn hard about that?
 
2012-09-11 10:33:41 AM
And just think -- Rmoney has to deal with these attacks from his own people for the next three weeks while preparing for the presidential debate against Obama.
 
2012-09-11 10:33:55 AM

make me some tea: I find it interesting that he mentioned he'd like to keep the pre-existing conditions part of ObamaCare, but his campaign then quickly "corrected" his stance on that. Very revealing that the platform he's running on isn't actually what he believes in. No wonder he has trouble connecting to voters, he's an empty suit.


Which has happened with literally every single policy position the Romney campaign has put forward other than "Romney should be president"
 
2012-09-11 10:39:44 AM
Remember way back in school when they had actual chalkboards with those multiline drawing things that teachers could use to create lines for cursive writing or musical staff with? We would sometimes be assigned to write sentences on the board for misbehavior and if the teacher left the room you could sneak over and use that to write 5 lines at once.
We need something like that for Mittens but instead of the same thing it could write down 5 different things at once so he could be sure he is covering all his bases.

www.teachersparadise.com
 
2012-09-11 10:52:12 AM

BrynnMacFlynn: Serious Black: I don't think the ABO people really care. One of my Prosperity Gospel thumper FB friends posted yesterday that he thinks Mitt needs to start treating this like a "death-match brawl," and that he needs to start airing ads of the Democrats booing God over and over again.

I know, and that just makes me so incredibly depressed. I want to know what the hell is wrong with a "keep it to yourself" policy about religion--I don't need to hear about it, I don't care about it, and unless I ask you about your religion, don't bring it up. That way everyone's happy--you're free to practice your religion all you want, and I don't have my rights trampled because your God is so special. What the hell is so damn hard about that?


Well, if you believe that your religion is the only true religion and that all others are blasphemy, that kind of throws any semblance of pluralism out the window. Honestly, I've grown to expect that from him. The thing that upset me more was his calling the election campaign a death-match brawl. We aren't going to kill the loser of the election, and Americans aren't going to die for the sole, express reason that one guy gets elected president over the other.
 
2012-09-11 10:57:11 AM

RedPhoenix122: But for those people, do you really think an article like this will change their mind? "You can't trust the liebrul media in this country. Not like them nice folks on Fox News.


It won't change the minds of that particular demographic, but there are still plenty of truly undecided people out there. I don't know how anyone can be undecided at this point, but they are.

Undecided voters weigh in on Romney's speech
Undecided voters weigh in on Obama's speech
 
2012-09-11 10:57:21 AM

make me some tea: I find it interesting that he mentioned he'd like to keep the pre-existing conditions part of ObamaCare, but his campaign then quickly "corrected" his stance on that. Very revealing that the platform he's running on isn't actually what he believes in. No wonder he has trouble connecting to voters, he's an empty suit.


No, but you have revealed the problem: Romney is too liberal. If they'd nominated Santorum this would all be over by now.
 
2012-09-11 11:00:41 AM

make me some tea: It won't change the minds of that particular demographic, but there are still plenty of truly undecided people out there. I don't know how anyone can be undecided at this point, but they are.


To be fair, many of the undecided voters work a lot of hours, don't research the candidates, and get all of their information from the news networks.
 
2012-09-11 11:01:31 AM

make me some tea: I find it interesting that he mentioned he'd like to keep the pre-existing conditions part of ObamaCare, but his campaign then quickly "corrected" his stance on that. Very revealing that the platform he's running on isn't actually what he believes in. No wonder he has trouble connecting to voters, he's an empty suit.


not only that, but that the GOP mantra of choice these days is that Obama is the 'empty suit' guy while Romney is the 'man with a plan'. very Orwellian.
 
2012-09-11 11:07:41 AM

Weaver95: make me some tea: I find it interesting that he mentioned he'd like to keep the pre-existing conditions part of ObamaCare, but his campaign then quickly "corrected" his stance on that. Very revealing that the platform he's running on isn't actually what he believes in. No wonder he has trouble connecting to voters, he's an empty suit.

not only that, but that the GOP mantra of choice these days is that Obama is the 'empty suit' guy while Romney is the 'man with a plan'. very Orwellian.


It always baffles me that the GOP tries to tar Obama as both an empty suit panderer and a dictatorial and egotistical megalomaniac.
 
2012-09-11 11:09:21 AM

BrynnMacFlynn: Just... argh. They played a clip of Mitt this morning where he was doing his schtick adding talking points to the pledge, and I just about threw up in my mouth when he said, "I will not take God out of my heart, I will not take God out of the public square and I will not take it out of the platform of my party."

 

He called God "it?" If Obama did that we'd be already hearing from the "Real 'Merc'ns Who Believe In Their Hearts God Is Not a Pre-Op or Post-Op Transsexual" PAC
 
2012-09-11 11:09:56 AM

Serious Black: We aren't going to kill the loser of the election, and Americans aren't going to die for the sole, express reason that one guy gets elected president over the other.


That's the hope, at least. When Clinton was re-elected, the nutters went apeshiat for a while before finally quieting down for the most part. It is always possible some of those crazies holed up in their compound in East Bumf*ck, Georgia or Idaho could mini-rampage if Obama wins.
 
2012-09-11 11:10:20 AM

NuttierThanEver: Remember way back in school when they had actual chalkboards with those multiline drawing things that teachers could use to create lines for cursive writing or musical staff with? We would sometimes be assigned to write sentences on the board for misbehavior and if the teacher left the room you could sneak over and use that to write 5 lines at once.
We need something like that for Mittens but instead of the same thing it could write down 5 different things at once so he could be sure he is covering all his bases.

[www.teachersparadise.com image 350x200]


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/oblig
 
2012-09-11 11:11:13 AM

King Something: And just think -- Rmoney has to deal with these attacks from his own people for the next three weeks while preparing for the presidential debate against Obama.


This was written pre-convention if you'll note.
 
2012-09-11 11:13:09 AM

Serious Black: Could somebody please give me a reason why to vote for Mitt Romney other than he is not Barack Obama?


Do you believe in trickle-down economics?
 
2012-09-11 11:13:57 AM

GAT_00: King Something: And just think -- Rmoney has to deal with these attacks from his own people for the next three weeks while preparing for the presidential debate against Obama.

This was written pre-convention if you'll note.


Is that better or worse for his position? Signs that he experienced zero bounce in polls due to the convention and offered zero new details either would tell me he's maxed out support and has no plan.

I wouldn't write off any election as a done deal until the votes are in (and counted, challenged in court-whatever), but on the surface at least, it appears Romney is only able to go down from here support-wise.
 
2012-09-11 11:18:28 AM

Serious Black:
It always baffles me that the GOP tries to tar Obama as both an empty suit panderer and a dictatorial and egotistical megalomaniac.


I think you can get away with that sort of thing when you're inside the GOP echo chamber. nobody there stops to thing about their reasons for opposing Obama or bothers putting it all together in a logical and consistent manner. it's enough that they hate Obama, they don't like his policies and are vocal about their opposition. reason, logic and consistency are secondary matters at best.

of course, the problem NOW is that the GOP has to justify their plans outside their echo chamber. That's why it's all falling apart. people NOT in the GOP mythos are asking questions and trying to connect the dots. And the GOP pundits themselves are used to simply ignoring (or purging) opposing viewpoints. The Republican pundits (and shills) find themselves having to actually confront their own logical flaws and inconsistent viewpoints IN PUBLIC and they can't just purge the question or the person who actually asked such an impertinent question in the first place. even weapons of mass distraction only work for so long - and not at all well in an online environment.

gonna be a rough election for 'em.
 
2012-09-11 11:23:29 AM

dr_blasto: I wouldn't write off any election as a done deal until the votes are in (and counted, challenged in court-whatever), but on the surface at least, it appears Romney is only able to go down from here support-wise.


Romney is going to have to herp some derp in ways man has never even thought possible. He's going to have to spew a Sistine Chapel's worth of herpaderpadoo in order to pull this election off.
 
2012-09-11 11:38:38 AM

Lando Lincoln: dr_blasto: I wouldn't write off any election as a done deal until the votes are in (and counted, challenged in court-whatever), but on the surface at least, it appears Romney is only able to go down from here support-wise.

Romney is going to have to herp some derp in ways man has never even thought possible. He's going to have to spew a Sistine Chapel's worth of herpaderpadoo in order to pull this election off.


At some point in the near future, Romney is going to have a one-on-one nationally televised debate with Obama, all under the pitiless gaze of Jim Leherer's black eyes. I'm not sure even the derpiest whargarbl can survive in that sort of environment.
 
2012-09-11 11:47:01 AM

dr_blasto: GAT_00: King Something: And just think -- Rmoney has to deal with these attacks from his own people for the next three weeks while preparing for the presidential debate against Obama.

This was written pre-convention if you'll note.

Is that better or worse for his position? Signs that he experienced zero bounce in polls due to the convention and offered zero new details either would tell me he's maxed out support and has no plan.

I wouldn't write off any election as a done deal until the votes are in (and counted, challenged in court-whatever), but on the surface at least, it appears Romney is only able to go down from here support-wise.


I don't think there's any evidence that such attacks are hurting him. People who will vote for Romney are unlikely to care about the facts, and people who do care about them are unlikely to be persuaded by a select few.
 
2012-09-11 12:03:00 PM

GAT_00: dr_blasto: GAT_00: King Something: And just think -- Rmoney has to deal with these attacks from his own people for the next three weeks while preparing for the presidential debate against Obama.

This was written pre-convention if you'll note.

Is that better or worse for his position? Signs that he experienced zero bounce in polls due to the convention and offered zero new details either would tell me he's maxed out support and has no plan.

I wouldn't write off any election as a done deal until the votes are in (and counted, challenged in court-whatever), but on the surface at least, it appears Romney is only able to go down from here support-wise.

I don't think there's any evidence that such attacks are hurting him. People who will vote for Romney are unlikely to care about the facts, and people who do care about them are unlikely to be persuaded by a select few.


These attacks aren't the source of pain, merely a symptom of a greater uneasiness with him as a candidate. Lots of GOP-leaning voters don't want to vote for Obama for whatever reason they have, none of which are policy if they even remotely consider Romney as a viable candidate. Policy-voters will either be forced 3rd party or to sit out.

That leaves team-politics-voters, the uninformed, and a pile of nutter or quasi-racists; all of whom are likely currently supporting Romney. Team-politics-voters will vote for him, simply because (R). Racists with either vote for Romney or not vote.

That leaves low-information or uninformed voters. As pressure to identify his position on any subject increases from his opposition, the press and within his own party, the uninformed numbers will decline-many just haven't paid attention to any detail, oddly, and will probably pick up information over the course of the next month. Given that Romney has steadfastly withheld any detail and will likely continue to do so, these uninformed voters will either not vote or start to consider voting for Obama.

Unless there's a major event, I can only see Romney's support dropping from what will have been considered his high-water mark a couple weeks ago (interestingly, just before the convention-not during or after).
 
2012-09-11 12:09:50 PM

Weaver95: Serious Black:
It always baffles me that the GOP tries to tar Obama as both an empty suit panderer and a dictatorial and egotistical megalomaniac.

I think you can get away with that sort of thing when you're inside the GOP echo chamber. nobody there stops to thing about their reasons for opposing Obama or bothers putting it all together in a logical and consistent manner. it's enough that they hate Obama, they don't like his policies and are vocal about their opposition. reason, logic and consistency are secondary matters at best.

of course, the problem NOW is that the GOP has to justify their plans outside their echo chamber. That's why it's all falling apart. people NOT in the GOP mythos are asking questions and trying to connect the dots. And the GOP pundits themselves are used to simply ignoring (or purging) opposing viewpoints. The Republican pundits (and shills) find themselves having to actually confront their own logical flaws and inconsistent viewpoints IN PUBLIC and they can't just purge the question or the person who actually asked such an impertinent question in the first place. even weapons of mass distraction only work for so long - and not at all well in an online environment.

gonna be a rough election for 'em.


Oh, I agree. I think they'll need a stunning October surprise and Romney crushing Obama in the debates to be able to pull off a win. And even then, it'll probably be like Bush's two victories that were won by the slimmest of EV margins. There just isn't a big ceiling for Romney, and the floor is pretty low.
 
2012-09-11 12:14:22 PM

Serious Black: It always baffles me that the GOP tries to tar Obama as both an empty suit panderer and a dictatorial and egotistical megalomaniac.


well, they also paint obama as a:

marxist/tool of wall street
muslim/radical black christian
silver-tongued hypnotist/teleprompter addict

remember - cognitive dissonance is the oxygen republicans breathe.
 
2012-09-11 12:47:56 PM
"In this Aug. 16, 2012, file photo Republican presidential candidate, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney writes on a white board as he talks about Medicare during a news conference in Greer, S.C."

too good for a blackboard, eh Mitt?
 
2012-09-11 12:48:24 PM
Why does Salon pretend the election matters?
 
2012-09-11 12:50:28 PM
Another good article about Romney and the issues with the Mormon Church - Link
 
2012-09-11 12:51:47 PM

GAT_00: King Something: And just think -- Rmoney has to deal with these attacks from his own people for the next three weeks while preparing for the presidential debate against Obama.

This was written pre-convention if you'll note.


No, the words under the photo were written per-convention. The rest is dated today above the photo.
 
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