PsiChi: All those into intellectual integrity should check out Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth's website. Anyone who saw the "attacks," even on TV, could tell that this was a planned demolition. Well, three planned demolitions: Link

Here's the thing. The same freaks in our government who did this have more surprises in store for us here in the United States, and probably very soon. Please delve into this, people, if you haven't already. If they'll kill so many innocents here, just to start a war and make money for the military-industrial complex off their blood, they will do anything, and I do believe they're about to here. And just as they tried to blame it on "brown people," "Muslims," and "Iraq," they will now try to pin it on Russia, and Iran, and who knows who else. And it won't just be a couple of buildings falling down.

Time is of the essence.

Darn right time is of the essence, you've been without your medication this week again haven't you? I told you not to let the scripts lapse. *sigh*

How goes the national scab pick?

Marine1: Because they're all evil, amirite?

/are you actually a "free thinker" or did Dawkins give that one to you in one of his releases?

wanna know how i know you never read a single thing by him

Buffalo77: PsiChi


All those into intellectual integrity should check out Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth's website. Anyone who saw the "attacks," even on TV, could tell that this was a planned demolition. Well, three planned demolitions: Link

Here's the thing. The same freaks in our government who did this have more surprises in store for us here in the United States, and probably very soon. Please delve into this, people, if you haven't already. If they'll kill so many innocents here, just to start a war and make money for the military-industrial complex off their blood, they will do anything, and I do believe they're about to here. And just as they tried to blame it on "brown people," "Muslims," and "Iraq," they will now try to pin it on Russia, and Iran, and who knows who else. And it won't just be a couple of buildings falling down.

Time is of the essence.


Conservatives have birthers, liberals have guys like this. I guess it evens out.

Leave it to an ignoramus like you with zero demo experience to make such a call.

/in the meantime, I've got a dilapidated hospital to demolish. Back later after the boom.

Maud Dib: blingblingishere: TommyymmoT: [i487.photobucket.com image 460x596]

What color do you suppose we're at now? (In reality)

We're upping the threat level from Blackwatch Plaid to the cover of Rush's Moving Pictures.

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RAWR.

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Nonsense.

So what rational reason was there for all those changes?

EdNortonsTwin: [i2.cdn.turner.com image 640x360]


It's interesting that prosecution of Jihadists spiked the year Obama took the oath of office. 

What, was Bush holding them in reserve?

That appears to be a somewhat misleading graph - number of defendants isn't a very good metric. Also, there's no context - a guy is charged in 2008 and his case lasts into 2009 - is he counted in both charts? Is it based on when the case is filed, or when it goes to trial? What charges specifically constitute "terrorism-related"?

I'd really like more information about that chart before I relied on it for any sort of argument. Also, I believe the answer to your question is yes - there were quite a few on ice at Gitmo, remember? Bush had been trying them all with military tribunals, but Obama brought them to federal court until Congress forced him to stop transferring them. That's my recollection, at least, but I could be wrong. That could be one explanation for the 2009 spike, however - "defendants" means in courts as opposed to tribunals, so the previous cases weren't counted. Again, more info on the chart needed.

Lone Stranger: Maud Dib: blingblingishere: TommyymmoT: [i487.photobucket.com image 460x596]

What color do you suppose we're at now? (In reality)

We're upping the threat level from Blackwatch Plaid to the cover of Rush's Moving Pictures.

[images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 520x390]

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RAWR.

Now furries will be on the terrorist watch list.

/awaits imminent shizzlestorm

Marine1: ghare: Marine1: Al-Qaeda. The Taliban.

There, I just summed up who we should be fighting. If we're not, that's bad, but it doesn't negate the fact that those people are to our detriment.

Not really very much. Look up the number of Americans killed by terrorists in the last oh, 12 years. Then, you could look at other causes of unnatural death.

Terrorism as a risk to the average American is in no possible way worth all the money we spend fighting it. Especially when you throw in the "Invade Iraq because Saudis who were hiding in Afghanistan/Pakistan attacked us" part.

http://danger.mongabay.com/injury_death.htm

I didn't say that Iraq was a good idea.

I said that fighting those who wish to harm us would be a good idea.

Yeah, in theory, but like most theories it's not applicable to the real world without significant modification. Our "war on terror" is not cost effective when you look at actual risk. And if we, as a country, don't feel like paying the taxes necessary to cover the bills, then we should focus on other things.

WhyteRaven74: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Nonsense.

So what rational reason was there for all those changes?

Because these colors don't run and freedom isn't free and such as, furthermore.

FarkedOver: Because these colors don't run and freedom isn't free and such as, furthermore.

*golf clap*

Buffalo77: PsiChi


All those into intellectual integrity should check out Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth's website. Anyone who saw the "attacks," even on TV, could tell that this was a planned demolition. Well, three planned demolitions: Link

Here's the thing. The same freaks in our government who did this have more surprises in store for us here in the United States, and probably very soon. Please delve into this, people, if you haven't already. If they'll kill so many innocents here, just to start a war and make money for the military-industrial complex off their blood, they will do anything, and I do believe they're about to here. And just as they tried to blame it on "brown people," "Muslims," and "Iraq," they will now try to pin it on Russia, and Iran, and who knows who else. And it won't just be a couple of buildings falling down.

Time is of the essence.


Conservatives have birthers, liberals have guys like this. I guess it evens out.

This guy could easily be a Republican. Why do you figure he's a liberal?

Just heard this on the local news, "America remembers those who gave their lives," and it made me want to puke.

this writer's intro and conclusion don't jive

Marine1: HAMMERTOE: Marine1: That's fine. I don't care if you're an atheist. I DO care that you see the solution to the world's problems to be the elimination of differences in human thought, and see it as acceptable to stereotype people based on the very lowest denominator of belief.

I was only replying to your statement, "Yes, these people are a menace." I took that to be referring to Muslims. Are you offended to be reminded that your own "god" is responsible for far greater carnage?

You took it wrong, then.

My "god" isn't responsible for the particular carnage of which you speak. The intolerant who use God as their rallying cry are.

Name one god NOT held as rationale for tens of thousands of murders and atrocities.

thetubameister: Name one god NOT held as rationale for tens of thousands of murders and atrocities.

Ahura Mazda

PsiChi: All those into intellectual integrity should check out Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth's website. Anyone who saw the "attacks," even on TV, could tell that this was a planned demolition. Well, three planned demolitions: Link

Here's the thing. The same freaks in our government who did this have more surprises in store for us here in the United States, and probably very soon. Please delve into this, people, if you haven't already. If they'll kill so many innocents here, just to start a war and make money for the military-industrial complex off their blood, they will do anything, and I do believe they're about to here. And just as they tried to blame it on "brown people," "Muslims," and "Iraq," they will now try to pin it on Russia, and Iran, and who knows who else. And it won't just be a couple of buildings falling down.

Time is of the essence.



/hot like the cinder block

Mock26: Just heard this on the local news, "America remembers those who gave their lives," and it made me want to puke.

Doesn't "gave" sort of imply they were involved in the decision?

khyberkitsune: Anyone else note that the years of non-jihadist terrorists were election years?

Came here to say this.

ghare:
This guy could easily be a Republican. Why do you figure he's a liberal?

Anecdotal evidence, but the vast majority of truthers that I've met personally were Republicans and/or Libertarians (mostly Ron Paul supporters). I'm sure there are some liberal truthers, but they don't seem to be as common.

Of course, I've heard this nonsense about trutherism somehow being a "liberal" thing before. It's a common lie that people who want to draw false equivalency between the craziness of the left and the right like to tell. In reality, it's not really a left vs. right thing, but a sane vs. crazy thing.

As far as I am concerned America changed itself to accommodate for the actions of the very few. This country wasn't dealing with a fellow superpower or some invading alien species, we were dealing with some fringe religious believers that were the minority of their own religion.

It's like oatmeal being outlawed because a bunch of Quakers blew up some buildings due to them viewing their image being tarnished at the breakfast table.

America has plenty of help from Israel in keeping the boogieman alive.

ghare: Buffalo77: PsiChi


All those into intellectual integrity should check out Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth's website. Anyone who saw the "attacks," even on TV, could tell that this was a planned demolition. Well, three planned demolitions: Link

Here's the thing. The same freaks in our government who did this have more surprises in store for us here in the United States, and probably very soon. Please delve into this, people, if you haven't already. If they'll kill so many innocents here, just to start a war and make money for the military-industrial complex off their blood, they will do anything, and I do believe they're about to here. And just as they tried to blame it on "brown people," "Muslims," and "Iraq," they will now try to pin it on Russia, and Iran, and who knows who else. And it won't just be a couple of buildings falling down.

Time is of the essence.


Conservatives have birthers, liberals have guys like this. I guess it evens out.

This guy could easily be a Republican. Why do you figure he's a liberal?

Aside from a certain Republican in name only who managed to fit in a few minutes as President between rounds of golf, neither Republicans as a whole nor conservative Republicans in particular ever refer to the "military industrial complex", the ultimate bogeyman of Liberals.

thetubameister

Name one god NOT held as rationale for tens of thousands of murders and atrocities.


Lemmy Kilmister


Eric Clapton is also acceptable.

I think the problem is that we are now defining "terrorist" to include a mental patient who shot a building manager in the arm. That kind of dilution of the meaning of the word leads to the belief that terrorists aren't that big of a deal anymore. (NO, that does not mean that I think the boogey man is out to get me - just that we should be focusing on "real" terrorists, not some nutjob walking down the street)

Kinda like saying "everybody has SOME sort of depression"...followed by... Depression isn't a big deal for most people who suffer from it.

I think you mean boogie men, don't you subby?

lysdexic: URAPNIS: nicoffeine: Meanwhile, Dec 7, 1952...

*crickets*

I remember when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, damn it.

So do these folks

So do the Americans interred right afterwards; they remember well.

\US is really good at reacting to attacks by ditching their personal freedoms.

Remember when it was bogeyman?

/buck naked

Prophesy.

Mnemia: Anecdotal evidence, but the vast majority of truthers that I've met personally were Republicans and/or Libertarians (mostly Ron Paul supporters).

Though this is likewise anecdotal, on Facebook I've noticed a pretty frequent correlation between truthers and having something on their profile about supporting the gold standard.

Skirl Hutsenreiter: khyberkitsune: Anyone else note that the years of non-jihadist terrorists were election years?

Came here to say this.

Nobody else will see it since I'm prolly blocked or highlighted as a troll.

Let the ignorant farkers drown in ignorance, a research director has given them the heads-up as-is.

WhyteRaven74: Mnemia: Anecdotal evidence, but the vast majority of truthers that I've met personally were Republicans and/or Libertarians (mostly Ron Paul supporters).

Though this is likewise anecdotal, on Facebook I've noticed a pretty frequent correlation between truthers and having something on their profile about supporting the gold standard.


Maybe the people who love fiat currency also hate the truth?

The terrorists are your own government dummies.

thetubameister: Marine1: HAMMERTOE: Marine1: That's fine. I don't care if you're an atheist. I DO care that you see the solution to the world's problems to be the elimination of differences in human thought, and see it as acceptable to stereotype people based on the very lowest denominator of belief.

I was only replying to your statement, "Yes, these people are a menace." I took that to be referring to Muslims. Are you offended to be reminded that your own "god" is responsible for far greater carnage?

You took it wrong, then.

My "god" isn't responsible for the particular carnage of which you speak. The intolerant who use God as their rallying cry are.

Name one god NOT held as rationale for tens of thousands of murders and atrocities.

Raiden?

Bacchus?

Red_Fox

The terrorists are your own government dummies.


Surprisingly this works even without the comma.

Ordinary Genius:

done in one.

Are the Serbs still kvetching about the Field of Blackbirds in 1389?

We've always been at war with Eastasia...

The One True TheDavid: Ordinary Genius:

done in one.

Are the Serbs still kvetching about the Field of Blackbirds in 1389?



They have a new bogeyman now:

ghare: Mock26: Just heard this on the local news, "America remembers those who gave their lives," and it made me want to puke.

Doesn't "gave" sort of imply they were involved in the decision?

Hence the wanting to puke part.

ilambiquated: So embarrassing. My facebook feed was a minefield today.

Mine is full of non-ironic sparkly "Nevar Forget!" GIFs.

*sigh* I thought I had better friends than that

> 11 years later America struggles to keep the boogie man alive

With six 9/11 headlines so far today, so does Fark.

Because it needs to be done:

HectorSchwartz: All this BS amazes me. We lose a couple buildings and 3,500 people. We then retaliate by leveling entire cities and killing about 200,000 people.

/never forget!!!!1

Proportional response - those building were more expensive than the collection of mud huts and those 3,500 people were worth a lot more than the dirty heathen peasants huddling in said huts.

"Terrorist"...can't think of a worse moniker. Have some fun with a plastic bottle and dry ice and you, too, are a terrorist. A shoe-box now instills fear into everyone...we've become a nation of f*cking pussies. Man up, U.S.!!!

Story: Was flying out of Denver, going through security including the whole-body imaging. After I was done two TSA agents told me to come with them to the "little room". While I was being searched I asked them how they decide who gets frisked, etc.

You know what their answer was? "Random". Can you think of a WORSE way to screen for possible terrorists? F*cking random? That means the camel-humper gets through security while the TSA is searching some 88 year-old back in the room. F*cking random...unbelievable.

If you're going to effectively secure an airline for dangerous passengers you HAVE to profile, period.

Gotta Boogie

/DNRTFA