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(NewsBusters)   Woman: I was a botched abortion survivor and was left discarded. WaPo FactCheckers(tm): You liar, you weren't discarded, you were left to die. It's totally different   (newsbusters.org) divider line 107
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2012-09-11 09:28:58 AM  
Down with factcheckers! Nobody should be able to check facts in MY America!
 
2012-09-11 09:30:01 AM  
The sun glistened off her discarded abortion.
 
2012-09-11 09:31:58 AM  
www.nndb.com

I suspect this woman has abandonment issues and something something with her mother.
 
2012-09-11 09:32:15 AM  
So if God wants someone alive he will intervene....if he doesn't he will not.

/The system works.
 
2012-09-11 09:33:20 AM  
Refuse to give newsbusters my traffic. Anyone have a link to the Washington Post article?
 
2012-09-11 09:33:25 AM  
"We're not going to let our abortion be dictated by fact-checkers"
 
2012-09-11 09:34:52 AM  
I think the solution here is a federal program to better train abortion doctors.
 
2012-09-11 09:36:38 AM  
I bet the abortion doctor DNC that coming.
 
2012-09-11 09:37:04 AM  
Here's the actual doctor's report from the birth:

This baby was born prematurely to a 19-year-old unmarried mother. According to the mother's hospital record, her last menstrual period was 5/01/77, however, she reportedly stated she had had no period in March or April. She was estimated to be about 18 weeks pregnant. On August 24th, Saline infusion for an abortion was done but was unsuccessful. On August 27th, the Pitocin drip was started. It was also repeated on August 28th. Her bag of water broke about 6:30 PM. Pitocin drip was continued on the 29th. The baby was delivered spontaneously in bed by a nurse. Apgar at one minute was reported to be 6 and at 5 minutes 2. The baby is reported to have had a spontaneous weak cry, it was a vertex ROA presentation. The mother is reported to be a Group A, Rh positive. The baby was brought to the Intensive Care Nursery and was put in about 35 percent O2, was bagged some and respiration were established but the cry remained rather weak. Capillary blood gases were ordered. etc.

The report confirms an abortion but says the baby was born and then saved. No baby left in medical waste or "left to die". The story is profound enough without adding lies by pro-life groups or you, subby.
 
2012-09-11 09:37:12 AM  

Citrate1007: So if God wants someone alive he will intervene....if he doesn't he will not.

/The system works.


images3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-09-11 09:37:31 AM  
comedycentral.mtvnimages.com
 
2012-09-11 09:37:35 AM  

Carth: Refuse to give newsbusters my traffic. Anyone have a link to the Washington Post article?


Third one down
 
2012-09-11 09:37:57 AM  
I survived the abortion, DAD

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2012-09-11 09:39:02 AM  
I guess I'm confused. TFA points out her mother "gave birth" prematurely to the baby, who the doctors then determined was barely alive and took efforts to improve her condition. The woman, OTOH, claims she was "aborted" and "discarded", presumably because her mother did not want to continue the pregnancy. So which is it?
 
2012-09-11 09:39:21 AM  

Im_Gumby: Carth: Refuse to give newsbusters my traffic. Anyone have a link to the Washington Post article?

Third one down


thank you
 
2012-09-11 09:39:34 AM  

vernonFL: The sun glistened off her discarded abortion.


That reads like one of the entries in the "Dark and Stormy Night" contest.
 
2012-09-11 09:39:41 AM  
Mother lied about last period to get an abortion later then it would have otherwise been permitted.
 
2012-09-11 09:40:07 AM  
From comments:

"Blacks get hundreds of thousands of abortions each year. The KKK couldn't hope to kill that many Black babies yearly, and legally too. Where is the racial outrage? The White babies? well, no one actually, you know, cares about them. They don't have the correct pigmentation to be worthy of consideration."

LOL wut?
 
2012-09-11 09:40:41 AM  

Citrate1007: So if God wants someone alive he will intervene....if he doesn't he will not.

/The system works.


Those doctos should've been aborted.
 
2012-09-11 09:41:01 AM  
Bulwer-Lytton Contest for the unlettered savages among you.
 
2012-09-11 09:41:14 AM  
Naturally, she became a republican.
 
2012-09-11 09:43:19 AM  

Bmore O's: From comments:

"Blacks get hundreds of thousands of abortions each year. The KKK couldn't hope to kill that many Black babies yearly, and legally too. Where is the racial outrage? The White babies? well, no one actually, you know, cares about them. They don't have the correct pigmentation to be worthy of consideration."

LOL wut?


Forget it Jake. It's the comments.
 
2012-09-11 09:44:55 AM  

Lumpmoose: Here's the actual doctor's report from.... . The story is profound enough without adding lies by pro-life groups or you, subby.


well said. Like most incredibly serious issues that have become politicized, their devastating nature speaks volumes in simply providing the facts. that is why those of us who have been impacted by these difficult decisions and unsavory procedures take equal offense at a NARAL executive bragging about her two abortions as we do with pro life protesters flinging fetal parts at politicians. The extremists are demeaning and offensive.
 
2012-09-11 09:45:45 AM  

CokeBear: Mother lied about last period to get an abortion later then it would have otherwise been permitted.


Agreed.

And the late term abortion attempt then triggered a pre-term delivery.

And this is why late term abortions aren't legal.

Much ado about nothing.
 
2012-09-11 09:47:29 AM  

Bmore O's: "Blacks get hundreds of thousands of abortions each year. The KKK couldn't hope to kill that many Black babies yearly, and legally too. Where is the racial outrage? The White babies? well, no one actually, you know, cares about them. They don't have the correct pigmentation to be worthy of consideration."

LOL wut?


Black women do nothing but get abortions. An average black woman will have over 740 abortions under her belt by the time she turns 21. Therefore, THEY'RE the racist ones for thinking abortions should be legal.
 
2012-09-11 09:48:37 AM  
'I was aborted and my body discarded like I didn't exist. But a nurse heard me crying and cared enough to save my life.'" Hicks flunked the ad because he didn't like the word "discarded":

No, he flunked the ad because she has no way to back up that story. No first hand accounts. Nothing but the supposed word of a nurse she met at the hospital she was transferred to who was not there at her birth and who she won't name in order to allow the newspapers to interview.

What part of "In fact, it shows that the medical staff took steps to preserve her life after checking her Apgar score - which measures the health of newborn babies - and hearing a weak cry. part of her medical records she makes available on her OWN WEBSITE is this guy equating to "discard"?

/Also, that pic makes my "don't stick yer wick in crazy" quatchi-sense tingle most unpleasantly. 
 
2012-09-11 09:50:21 AM  
The fact that the mother lied about her last period in order to get an abortion later than would otherwise be permissible is pretty bad on its own, you know. You don't have to make up shiat about being chucked in the waste bin in order to make the story terrible. Albeit, the lying about the time of the pregnancy is already illegal under current law, so maybe you do I guess.

//I guess discarded by the _mother_ is true enough, just not discarded by the doctors, who apparently saved her when it was realized the baby was a baby and not a fetus.
 
2012-09-11 09:52:23 AM  
subtard: WaPo FactCheckers(tm): You liar, you weren't discarded, you were left to die. It's totally different

actual text: A birth record posted on Ohden's Web site says nothing about the medical staff laying aside, discarding or leaving the newborn's body for dead. In fact, it shows that the medical staff took steps to preserve her life after checking her Apgar score - which measures the health of newborn babies - and hearing a weak cry


Who are you subby? a dumbass or just trolling?
 
2012-09-11 09:54:35 AM  

Jim_Callahan: The fact that the mother lied about her last period in order to get an abortion later than would otherwise be permissible is pretty bad on its own, you know. You don't have to make up shiat about being chucked in the waste bin in order to make the story terrible. Albeit, the lying about the time of the pregnancy is already illegal under current law, so maybe you do I guess.

//I guess discarded by the _mother_ is true enough, just not discarded by the doctors, who apparently saved her when it was realized the baby was a baby and not a fetus.


I bet current medicine would make the mother's lie impossible these days.
 
2012-09-11 09:54:54 AM  

Bendal: I guess I'm confused. TFA points out her mother "gave birth" prematurely to the baby, who the doctors then determined was barely alive and took efforts to improve her condition. The woman, OTOH, claims she was "aborted" and "discarded", presumably because her mother did not want to continue the pregnancy. So which is it?


THIS. Not expected to live =/= left to die.
 
2012-09-11 09:55:12 AM  
Now, Newsbusters, shall we discuss the stories of botched executions that ended with the criminal screaming in agony as they gave injection after injection and still couldn't kill him? My guess is that the general reaction from Newsbuster to a story like that would be raucous "serves 'em right" belly laughter; roughly akin to the reaction to a story about a woman dying of a botched back-alley abortion.
 
2012-09-11 09:57:54 AM  

Bmore O's: From comments:

"Blacks get hundreds of thousands of abortions each year. The KKK couldn't hope to kill that many Black babies yearly, and legally too. Where is the racial outrage? The White babies? well, no one actually, you know, cares about them. They don't have the correct pigmentation to be worthy of consideration."

LOL wut?


Simple:

- Liberals are the real racists for supporting abortion because they know that black and Hispanic women are more prone to abort than whites are: it's a trick to promote genocide.

- Why don't liberals try to stop whites from aborting then? Because they only care about minorities and want to see white people eliminated.
 
2012-09-11 09:59:13 AM  
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Lie.
 
2012-09-11 09:59:56 AM  
I bet Mother's Day is awkward in that family.
 
2012-09-11 10:00:39 AM  
Her mother should have flushed...
 
2012-09-11 10:06:00 AM  

Lumpmoose: I bet current medicine would make the mother's lie impossible these days.


Maybe. They can make a much better evaluation of fetal development, but even viable babies can have some pretty large size and proportioning variations, which is sort of the primary way to make the fine distinctions between the last few stages of development.

So they do probably still rely to some extent on the patient providing a reliable medical history. Not as much as they would have when this woman was born (due to better imaging tech), but it's still important.
 
2012-09-11 10:07:48 AM  
That abortion sounds a lot like induced labor.
 
2012-09-11 10:09:14 AM  
Also, how did any of this have anything to do with Obama?
 
2012-09-11 10:09:35 AM  

Headso: subtard: WaPo FactCheckers(tm): You liar, you weren't discarded, you were left to die. It's totally different

actual text: A birth record posted on Ohden's Web site says nothing about the medical staff laying aside, discarding or leaving the newborn's body for dead. In fact, it shows that the medical staff took steps to preserve her life after checking her Apgar score - which measures the health of newborn babies - and hearing a weak cry

Who are you subby? a dumbass or just trolling?


But it sounds better to say that some random nurse helped her survive against the protests of the rest of the medical staff than to say that when she barely survived the abortion and the doctors determined she had strong enough vitals to be determined to not be stillborn at which point the baby was nursed back to health. Besides, maybe the doctors were lying; if she says it happened and it conflicts with the records, obviously she remembers what really happened the day she was born and there is a coverup.

Seriously though, this is the same crap as the "Obama voted against making it illegal to murder newborns" thing: it's already the law that if a baby is not stillborn the doctors will care for it, regardless of if the mother wanted an abortion or not. Trying to demand that doctors treat any stillbirth as alive until they've exhausted all attempts to save the child is expensive and unnecessary, as this story shows that doctors check for that anyway.
 
2012-09-11 10:11:46 AM  
she sure is boot strappy , she pushed herself out of the womb, only to be tossed in the trash, but she climbed out of that trash can and instantly formed a small business recycling used hyperbole, while most parasitic liberal preemies would choose to luxuriate in tax payer funded incubators. She is an Conservative American Success story...

...meaning most of her story is entirely fictional.
 
2012-09-11 10:12:03 AM  

Grungehamster: Seriously though, this is the same crap as the "Obama voted against making it illegal to murder newborns" thing: it's already the law that if a baby is not stillborn the doctors will care for it, regardless of if the mother wanted an abortion or not. Trying to demand that doctors treat any stillbirth as alive until they've exhausted all attempts to save the child is expensive and unnecessary, as this story shows that doctors check for that anyway.


Now you're just applying logic.

There is no room for that here.
 
2012-09-11 10:13:06 AM  

GameSprocket: Also, how did any of this have anything to do with Obama?


Obama owned the medical waste company that makes money from discarded fetuses.
 
2012-09-11 10:14:40 AM  

vernonFL: GameSprocket: Also, how did any of this have anything to do with Obama?

Obama owned the medical waste company that makes money from discarded fetuses.


where do you think Baccos Bacon Bits come from? that shiat doesn't grow on trees
 
2012-09-11 10:16:57 AM  
The ad plays in my market and it has the creepiest closeup of her face. I think I can actually count her nose hairs in it.
 
2012-09-11 10:16:58 AM  

vernonFL: GameSprocket: Also, how did any of this have anything to do with Obama?

Obama owned the medical waste company that makes money from discarded fetuses.


But he had the sekrit mooslim conspirators at the SEC put it in Mitt Romney's name. Retroactively.
 
2012-09-11 10:17:56 AM  
She's basically "testifying" to something of which she has absolutely ZERO first hand knowledge. Her claims, appear to be based on something a nurse told her some 20 yrs later or so.

The claims she makes appear to be completely contradicted by the medical charts she herself has posted on the website. She was delivered and steps were immediately taken to keep her alive, according to those very charts.

Yep, that is subject to a "fact check" and her claims and story do not appear to match the reality as reflected by the medical records. Now, who am I going to believe? Some contemporaneous medical records, or some woman's hearsay testimony based on someone else's potentially faulty memory of events some 20+ yrs prior?
 
2012-09-11 10:20:11 AM  
images.wikia.com
 
2012-09-11 10:21:34 AM  

GameSprocket: Also, how did any of this have anything to do with Obama?


Obama traveled back in time and falcon-punched her mom?
 
2012-09-11 10:23:23 AM  

lawboy87: She's basically "testifying" to something of which she has absolutely ZERO first hand knowledge. Her claims, appear to be based on something a nurse told her some 20 yrs later or so.

The claims she makes appear to be completely contradicted by the medical charts she herself has posted on the website. She was delivered and steps were immediately taken to keep her alive, according to those very charts.

Yep, that is subject to a "fact check" and her claims and story do not appear to match the reality as reflected by the medical records. Now, who am I going to believe? Some contemporaneous medical records, or some woman's hearsay testimony based on someone else's potentially faulty memory of events some 20+ yrs prior?


Conservatives don't seem to care that their beliefs contradict facts and reality.......it's kind of their thing.
 
2012-09-11 10:24:13 AM  
I can now say I want to have sex with a botched abortion. A new personal low
 
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