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(WTVR)   Should the online quiz to earn a gun permit be a simple true-false? Can we mix in an essay or maybe multiple choice question with one of those tricky D) All of the above options?   (wtvr.com) divider line 208
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2012-09-11 09:16:49 AM
based on the questions presented in the article, they are the same questions that you get in person on a test in TN. getting a carry permit isnt difficult anywhere, except now god forbid virginia made it easy for people who work all day to get one. taking the class vs. doing it online, same questions. only difference is no shooting part, which anybody who buys a gun is going to take it to the range and shoot it anyway, so whats the diff?
 
2012-09-11 09:49:26 AM
I learned everything I need to know about guns from the movies.

- Don't ever shoot an M16.
- You can shoot ropes and wires from a distance with a pistol.
- Miniguns are a good option to carry on the ground against aliens.
- You can dodge bullets, shoot bullets in curves and take shots while doing cartwheels.
- The bad guys will always aim for your chest and you'll have body armor. Never worry about your exposed head.
- Swords can deflect gunfire and cut bullets in half.
- It's fine to have a loaded shotgun under your bed in a house with small children in it.
 
2012-09-11 10:58:42 AM

bdub77: I learned everything I need to know about guns from the movies.

- Don't ever shoot an M16.
- You can shoot ropes and wires from a distance with a pistol.
- Miniguns are a good option to carry on the ground against aliens.
- You can dodge bullets, shoot bullets in curves and take shots while doing cartwheels.
- The bad guys will always aim for your chest and you'll have body armor. Never worry about your exposed head.
- Swords can deflect gunfire and cut bullets in half.
- It's fine to have a loaded shotgun under your bed in a house with small children in it.



- 12 gauge shotguns can blast holes the size of car tires into front doors.

- Getting hit with a shotgun will cause you to fly backwards.
 
2012-09-11 11:29:01 AM
First and last question: True or False, a gun is a toy to be played with.

99% of accidental gun deaths could be averted by this question alone.
 
2012-09-11 11:34:59 AM
The classroom "written" test that I took for my concealed weapon certification was "true-false". I do not understand why a more comprehensive test for online test-takers is warranted.
 
2012-09-11 11:35:37 AM

Livingroom: getting a carry permit isnt difficult anywhere


It is in MA. You need the permission of the police chief of whatever town you live in. The Chief can deny you for no reason at all.

The_Sponge: bdub77: I learned everything I need to know about guns from the movies.

- Don't ever shoot an M16.
- You can shoot ropes and wires from a distance with a pistol.
- Miniguns are a good option to carry on the ground against aliens.
- You can dodge bullets, shoot bullets in curves and take shots while doing cartwheels.
- The bad guys will always aim for your chest and you'll have body armor. Never worry about your exposed head.
- Swords can deflect gunfire and cut bullets in half.
- It's fine to have a loaded shotgun under your bed in a house with small children in it.


- 12 gauge shotguns can blast holes the size of car tires into front doors.

- Getting hit with a shotgun will cause you to fly backwards.


-If you have a pump action shotgun, you always must pump it before firing, ejecting a perfectly good shell for no reason.
 
2012-09-11 11:35:47 AM

bdub77: I learned everything I need to know about guns from the movies.

- Don't ever shoot an M16.
- You can shoot ropes and wires from a distance with a pistol.
- Miniguns are a good option to carry on the ground against aliens.
- You can dodge bullets, shoot bullets in curves and take shots while doing cartwheels.
- The bad guys will always aim for your chest and you'll have body armor. Never worry about your exposed head.
- Swords can deflect gunfire and cut bullets in half.
- It's fine to have a loaded shotgun under your bed in a house with small children in it.




In a zombie apocalypse, headshots on moving targets with a handgun are easy as pie for everyone!
 
2012-09-11 11:35:52 AM

Livingroom: based on the questions presented in the article, they are the same questions that you get in person on a test in TN. getting a carry permit isnt difficult anywhere, except now god forbid virginia made it easy for people who work all day to get one. taking the class vs. doing it online, same questions. only difference is no shooting part, which anybody who buys a gun is going to take it to the range and shoot it anyway, so whats the diff?


You do have to pass a background check; then pay $300 for the permit. Anyone can take the test. That does not mean that they'll pass the background check.

/ how about a little fire, scarecrow?
 
2012-09-11 11:36:45 AM

Ennuipoet: First and last question: True or False, a gun is a toy to be played with.

99% of accidental gun deaths could be averted by this question alone.


People would have to answer it honestly though, not just know the "correct" answer
 
2012-09-11 11:36:55 AM

MorePeasPlease: bdub77: I learned everything I need to know about guns from the movies.

- Don't ever shoot an M16.
- You can shoot ropes and wires from a distance with a pistol.
- Miniguns are a good option to carry on the ground against aliens.
- You can dodge bullets, shoot bullets in curves and take shots while doing cartwheels.
- The bad guys will always aim for your chest and you'll have body armor. Never worry about your exposed head.
- Swords can deflect gunfire and cut bullets in half.
- It's fine to have a loaded shotgun under your bed in a house with small children in it.



In a zombie apocalypse, headshots on moving targets with a handgun are easy as pie for everyone!


Even if an attempted shot to the head misses, all handguns feature negligible or no recoil and a second shot may be easily attempted.
 
2012-09-11 11:37:30 AM
This is my safety, sir.

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2012-09-11 11:37:58 AM
But voter ID is racist!
 
2012-09-11 11:38:59 AM

fluffy2097: -If you have a pump action shotgun, you always must pump it before firing, ejecting a perfectly good shell for no reason.


Same with the 1911 or other pistols, but only after saying something dramatic
 
2012-09-11 11:39:11 AM
c) STANJERGRON! BLAM BLAM BLAM!
 
2012-09-11 11:39:20 AM

Livingroom: based on the questions presented in the article, they are the same questions that you get in person on a test in TN. getting a carry permit isnt difficult anywhere, except now god forbid virginia made it easy for people who work all day to get one. taking the class vs. doing it online, same questions. only difference is no shooting part, which anybody who buys a gun is going to take it to the range and shoot it anyway, so whats the diff?


You have access to a computer while taking the test, so you can look up just about any answer or bring a cheat sheet. I'm sure there are websites with the questions and the correct answers listed. You could literally just have one window open with all the answers or a print out of the site next to you while taking the test.

What's the point of even having a test at that point?
 
2012-09-11 11:40:40 AM
In a modern cartoon, all side-by-side double barrels will be racked like a pump action.

/Simpsons did it!
 
2012-09-11 11:41:57 AM
Three day waiting period? But I'm angry now!
 
2012-09-11 11:42:22 AM
We don't even have a test. You take an eight-hour class, then go to the range. Done.
 
2012-09-11 11:44:53 AM
lh5.ggpht.com

If you shoot a tanker truck with a 12 gauge, then this will happen.
 
2012-09-11 11:47:22 AM
By all means yes, let's make it easy for morons to get CCW permits.

In the state where I live we had to take 8 hours of classroom instruction, then we had to go to a shooting range and fire at least 30 practice rounds.

I would consider that a bare minimum, as a lot of the people in the class had never handled a weapon, and a few of them didn't even own one.

I've always had one and got the permit because I started a new job just over a year ago in a neighborhood where I have a much greater chance of having to use one than ever before, and I decided to graduate from the school of CYA.

Why in God's name would you want to turn someone loose with a firearm that doesn't have a clue about what they're doing?
 
2012-09-11 11:47:43 AM

Sherman Potter: We don't even have a test. You take an eight-hour class, then go to the range. Done.


Pretty rigorous standards compared to some states. Texas for example has comparatively rigorous standards because they are not idiots. Wisconsin has virtually no standards, not even specifying what a course is or who can teach it or how long it should be or having any proficiency test at all.
 
2012-09-11 11:48:48 AM
If a bullet becomes lodged in the barrel you should keep on shooting.

That sounds like a question you'd give to a gun safety class for 12 year olds.
 
2012-09-11 11:48:49 AM
Hell, I didn't even need to take a quiz when I applied for my permit.
 
2012-09-11 11:49:19 AM
What problem is the author seeking to solve? Are concealed carry holders responsible for many unjustified shootings? I always thought the number was negligible.
 
2012-09-11 11:49:22 AM
An ignorant person voting is much more dangerous to the populace than an ignorant person obtaining a gun...why do we have a knowledge test for one and not the other?
 
2012-09-11 11:49:23 AM

AKTurkey: What's the point of even having a test at that point?


Exactly. If you aren't a criminal, and of sound mind, I think everyone who wants one should be issued something like a Hi Point long gun or pistol. If you want something different, or nicer, you'll have to pay for it.
 
2012-09-11 11:49:40 AM
How did making the test to have multiple children available online work out?
What about the test to set little fires and inhale the toxic and carcinogenic fumes up to 40+ times per day? Did that work well?


I need more information before I can weigh in on this test. I mean, it is super important because its about your right to exercise your constiFARKINGtutional rights.
 
2012-09-11 11:49:47 AM

Cold_Sassy: Why in God's name would you want to turn someone loose with a firearm that doesn't have a clue about what they're doing?


Because it's in the Constitution and the Supreme Court has ruled on it twice in the last four years.
 
2012-09-11 11:50:59 AM
The Second Amendment implies that the test should consist of two questions:

1. Do you have a handgun?
2. Would you like to carry it?
 
2012-09-11 11:51:19 AM

fluffy2097: -If you have a pump action shotgun, you always must pump it before firing, ejecting a perfectly good shell for no reason.



Well......

Doing that is fine if you just loaded the tube magazine and there isn't a shell in the chamber.
 
2012-09-11 11:52:51 AM

The_Sponge: fluffy2097: -If you have a pump action shotgun, you always must pump it before firing, ejecting a perfectly good shell for no reason.


Well......

Doing that is fine if you just loaded the tube magazine and there isn't a shell in the chamber.


Watch the movies. They always waste a perfectly good shell. It doesn't look movietastic enough without pumping it AND having a shell come out.
 
2012-09-11 11:53:59 AM
This will allow me - if I wish - to carry a handgun, concealed, in the Old Dominion and the other states in the union with reciprocity, which is most of them.

13 states is not most

When writers are blatantly wrong I have a hard time believing anything else they write. He could say the sky is blue but I'd look outside to check.

/The sky is kinda grey right now
 
2012-09-11 11:55:40 AM

clovis69: Cold_Sassy: Why in God's name would you want to turn someone loose with a firearm that doesn't have a clue about what they're doing?

Because it's in the Constitution and the Supreme Court has ruled on it twice in the last four years.


Well, yeah -- don't have a problem with that; you don't have to have a license to keep one to protect your home or use for hunting etc. on private property, but if you're going to be packing all over the place, then I'd say most folks could use a little education/practice first.
 
2012-09-11 11:56:56 AM

Sherman Potter: We don't even have a test. You take an eight-hour class, then go to the range. Done.


We don't have a test or range time, simple pay $52 bucks and have your fingerprints done, Concealed Carry Permit in mail in 30 days.
 
2012-09-11 11:57:21 AM

bdub77: - Swords can deflect gunfire and cut bullets in half.


Actually, that can happen, but it's probably not going to help you very much.
 
2012-09-11 11:57:50 AM

fluffy2097: The_Sponge: fluffy2097: -If you have a pump action shotgun, you always must pump it before firing, ejecting a perfectly good shell for no reason.


Well......

Doing that is fine if you just loaded the tube magazine and there isn't a shell in the chamber.

Watch the movies. They always waste a perfectly good shell. It doesn't look movietastic enough without pumping it AND having a shell come out.



I know I've seen a few movies where that happens....I just can't think of one right now.
 
2012-09-11 11:57:59 AM
I question the need to take a test to exercise an enumerated constitutional right.
 
2012-09-11 11:58:33 AM

Cuyose: Sherman Potter: We don't even have a test. You take an eight-hour class, then go to the range. Done.

We don't have a test or range time, simple pay $52 bucks and have your fingerprints done, Concealed Carry Permit in mail in 30 days.



A fellow Washingtonian, eh?
 
2012-09-11 11:58:43 AM

Cold_Sassy:
Why in God's name would you want to turn someone loose with a firearm that doesn't have a clue about what they're doing?



You wouldn't, but it isn't necessarily the government's (meaning state government in this case) job to teach you how to shoot a gun or otherwise make sure you can handle it. Parents, teach your children well.
 
2012-09-11 11:59:13 AM
I'm a huge proponent of nation-wide Concealed Carry, but I think the testing should be way more difficult than it is in most states. When I got mine, I had to attend 4 hours of classroom instruction, at the end of which we were given an open book test and the instructor went over each question with us and basically gave all the answers. Those who wanted a Class 1 Permit (which has reciprocity in more states) needed to stay for the firing exam. When we got in the range, the instructor mentioned that anybody who couldn't pass with their own firearm could use one of his Match .22s to do the shooting exam. Several guys with .40s they bought because they look cool couldn't pass - which consisted of hitting a paper target 16 of 20 times from 7 yards and 12 yards. When they grabbed the .22s and shot, they all passed.

I think if you're going to carry a deadly weapon, you should know how to shoot the weapon you're going to carry. We wouldn't let a guy get a license to drive a semi without being able to drive it. It's like letting him take the test in a Honda Civic.

That said, I firmly believe that much like licensing people to drive vehicles, I should be able to carry in whatever state I want just like I can drive in whatever state I want once I've proven that I can responsibly handle the firearm.
 
2012-09-11 11:59:13 AM

Silly Jesus: An ignorant person voting is much more dangerous to the populace than an ignorant person obtaining a gun...why do we have a knowledge test for one and not the other?


This is an amazingly dumb statement. A person with a gun can kill. A person voting can only choose someone else who may or may not be a good politician. Not at all equivalent.
 
2012-09-11 12:00:54 PM

Quinzy: Silly Jesus: An ignorant person voting is much more dangerous to the populace than an ignorant person obtaining a gun...why do we have a knowledge test for one and not the other?

This is an amazingly dumb statement. A person with a gun can kill. A person voting can only choose someone else who may or may not be a good politician. Not at all equivalent.


Yeah? What if you voted for Hitler?
 
2012-09-11 12:00:56 PM

The_Sponge: Cuyose: Sherman Potter: We don't even have a test. You take an eight-hour class, then go to the range. Done.

We don't have a test or range time, simple pay $52 bucks and have your fingerprints done, Concealed Carry Permit in mail in 30 days.


A fellow Washingtonian, eh?


This is correct, oddly enough one of the most liberally thought of states is the easiest to get your carry license in. Go figure
 
2012-09-11 12:01:17 PM

dittybopper: I question the need to take a test to exercise an enumerated constitutional right.


One assumes that many of these permit holders would wish to use their guns in hunting, target practice, or self-defense against criminals, and such activities are not covered by the second amendment, hence the test should make sure they understand the scope of permissible uses.

/and do you think it's reasonable to have a test for exercise a non-enumerated constitutional right?
 
2012-09-11 12:02:41 PM
Here's a two question quiz which few conservatives can pass.

1) What is the 2nd amendment to the US Constitution? Describe in your own words how it affects your rights.

2) Name another amendment to the US Constitution.
 
2012-09-11 12:04:21 PM

The_Sponge: 12 gauge shotguns can blast holes the size of car tires into front doors.


For those of us ignorant about such things, what will a 12-gauge shotgun do to a front door at close range? Some front doors are cheesier than others.
 
2012-09-11 12:06:56 PM

jaytkay: Here's a two question quiz which few conservatives can pass.

1) What is the 2nd amendment to the US Constitution? Describe in your own words how it affects your rights.

2) Name another amendment to the US Constitution.



I imagine most conservatives wouldn't have a problem with those.
Republicans however...
 
2012-09-11 12:07:40 PM

Molavian: Quinzy: Silly Jesus: An ignorant person voting is much more dangerous to the populace than an ignorant person obtaining a gun...why do we have a knowledge test for one and not the other?

This is an amazingly dumb statement. A person with a gun can kill. A person voting can only choose someone else who may or may not be a good politician. Not at all equivalent.

Yeah? What if you voted for Hitler?


I thought that's what we did in 2008?
 
2012-09-11 12:07:46 PM

fluffy2097: If you have a pump action shotgun, you always must pump it before firing, ejecting a perfectly good shell for no reason.


I thought it was a bad idea to carry a gun around with a live round in the chamber. If you follow that advice, then wouldn't you have to pump before firing the first round? (Sans the ejection, of course, since you shouldn't leave a spent round lying around in the chamber either.)
 
2012-09-11 12:08:44 PM
The last time I checked the Second Amendment gives me the right to bear arms, no questions asked.

Why should I ask for "permission" to do something I have a right to do anyway?

They already want to control my light bulbs, what I eat and what kind of car i drive, tell them to go f themselves.
 
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