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(Sydney Morning Herald)   Body falls from plane onto car in London. No word on whether the bunny was put back in the box   (smh.com.au) divider line 73
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2012-09-11 09:08:03 AM
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2012-09-11 10:16:49 AM
media.avclub.com

First thing I thought of... Might be obscure for some, possibly because I couldn't find a better picture...
 
2012-09-11 12:00:43 PM
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He is doing it all wrong. Let me show you.
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2012-09-11 12:02:36 PM
images.wikia.com
 
2012-09-11 12:24:16 PM
I'm genuinely worried that this is the new big thing, and that in the 'escape from whichever shiatty country i live in' game, where said person gives big man lots of cash for a new life in a different country...that said person is going to keep saying 'yeah sure we can get you to England/France/Brazil' All you have to do is climb into the wheel well for the plane.

Whereupon one idiotic black man or more, stowaway in the compartment, freeze to death 90 minutes later and then fall out as the plane comes into land.

/I couldn't give a shiat about it happening to me i'm not on a flightpath
 
2012-09-11 12:24:50 PM
Must have gotten a good parking place at the airport hospital.
 
2012-09-11 12:25:21 PM
Again?
 
2012-09-11 12:27:22 PM
3.bp.blogspot.com
Don't be sorry, George. It's bad to be sorry.
 
2012-09-11 12:27:23 PM
Very nice, subby...the clever is impressive.

Nick Cage still has bird hair though...thereby, making your arguement invalid.
 
2012-09-11 12:28:57 PM
encrypted-tbn0.google.com

Be on the lookout for a flamboyant businessman...
 
2012-09-11 12:30:19 PM
...Bits of his body were everywhere, and the police were putting their cones by them," he said.


i2.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-11 12:32:07 PM
Good bye Pinball!
 
2012-09-11 12:32:31 PM
Brown Bunny?
 
2012-09-11 12:33:19 PM
There was a successful one in 1969. I remember a Reader's Digest story about him. That was before the Internet and before I learned Reader's Digest is actually a Communist publication if you take the "a" and "er" out of it: RED's DIGEST. (Thanks Col Flagg)

Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stowaway

On 4 June 1969, Armando Socarras Ramirez and Jorge Perez Blanco climbed into the right landing gear well of an Iberia DC-8, Flight 904 from Havana, Cuba to Madrid, Spain. Socarras survived the flight with severe shock and exposure. Initially it was thought Perez fell from the aircraft during flight, either during a secondary retraction to clear a warning light, or during landing preparation as Socarras indicated he spoke to Perez during some duration of the flight. Later he claimed that Perez attempted to climb into the left well, failed and believes Perez is in a Cuban prison.
 
2012-09-11 12:39:17 PM
So, how long before they mandate that the wheel wells need to be large enough to accommodate stowaways, you know, for the children?
 
2012-09-11 12:40:40 PM
I know it ruins that Con Air buzz you worked up subby but the dead guy landed in the street, not on a car.
 
2012-09-11 12:42:11 PM
BTW sneaking into the cargo hold doesn't work any better...though at least you don't fall out of the plane. So there's that.
 
2012-09-11 12:44:02 PM
I'm not the subby, but you really need to do some research

"On 9 September 2012, a man thought to be of North African origin was found dead with multiple injuries on top of a car in a residential street in Mortlake London"

Even a quick wikipedia would do...
 
2012-09-11 12:48:05 PM
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Seems only fair...
 
2012-09-11 12:49:02 PM
Would have been better if it were a sturgeon.
 
2012-09-11 12:50:14 PM
This thread us useless without Gorgar.
 
2012-09-11 12:51:58 PM

WhyteRaven74: BTW sneaking into the cargo hold doesn't work any better...though at least you don't fall out of the plane. So there's that.


If pets can be transported in the cargo hold, so can people.
 
2012-09-11 12:52:39 PM

Eirik: So, how long before they mandate that the wheel wells need to be large enough to accommodate stowaways, you know, for the children?


Are you kidding me? The airlines are probably going to add paying seats in there and add a heat or pressurisation surcharge for people who choose a seat in the plane.
 
2012-09-11 12:56:24 PM
They dropped a real N-bomb on that town.
 
2012-09-11 12:58:15 PM

nytmare: WhyteRaven74: BTW sneaking into the cargo hold doesn't work any better...though at least you don't fall out of the plane. So there's that.

If pets can be transported in the cargo hold, so can people.


That statement works both ways, doesn't it?
 
2012-09-11 12:58:19 PM
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RIP
 
2012-09-11 01:03:46 PM
Thank you for flying Air Darwin.
 
2012-09-11 01:05:17 PM

WhyteRaven74: BTW sneaking into the cargo hold doesn't work any better...though at least you don't fall out of the plane. So there's that.


The cargo hold is pressurized and even heated (nominally) - otherwise you'd have all kinds of personal goods freezing/exploding and making a godawful mess. The problem is that the cargo hold (by international law) is never left unmanned, so is VERY difficult to access. If the baggage handlers are finished with it, they are required to close it up and back the belt away from the plane to stowage position. No such rules with the landing gear for obvious reasons.
 
2012-09-11 01:08:15 PM
He was riding coach
 
2012-09-11 01:10:41 PM

scottydoesntknow: [images.wikia.com image 315x389]


This was the thread-winner for me.
 
2012-09-11 01:10:44 PM
Those wheel wells need to be heated and pressurized, with seat belts, food, and water provided. Those poor people are just trying to reach someplace where they can start a better life. To deny them that opportunity is wrong, and to force them to risk their lives is cruel.
 
2012-09-11 01:12:14 PM

nytmare: If pets can be transported in the cargo hold, so can people.


I'm aware of at least one case of someone hiding in a cargo hold not making it.
 
2012-09-11 01:14:16 PM

Paris1127: [media.avclub.com image 627x325]

First thing I thought of... Might be obscure for some, possibly because I couldn't find a better picture...


Bond Air? Obscure?
 
2012-09-11 01:14:33 PM
No multipass.
 
2012-09-11 01:15:15 PM

Lone Stranger: They dropped a real N-bomb on that town.


You made Coke go up my nose.

If I wasn't lazy (and cheap), I'd sponser you for a month of Total Fark.
 
2012-09-11 01:17:56 PM
I don't know - why not just change the design so a stowaway could fit. This world is such that people are always going to be desperate enough to try this.
 
2012-09-11 01:18:07 PM
He should have flown Southwest. Bags fly free.
 
2012-09-11 01:18:15 PM

WhyteRaven74: nytmare: If pets can be transported in the cargo hold, so can people.

I'm aware of at least one case of someone hiding in a cargo hold not making it.


the cargo hold is only pressurized and heated IF there is a known live cargo. Otherwise, not so much.
I was working the mid shift for Airborne when a guy was discovered trying to ship himself from Alaska to NYC, he was discovered when he knocked over his pee jar prior to being loaded into the plane.
 
2012-09-11 01:27:26 PM

Moonshade01: No multipass.


www.blogcdn.com

unavailable for comment.
 
2012-09-11 01:28:04 PM
One resident in the affluent London neighbourhood of Mortlake, about 20 kilometres from Heathrow Airport, reported hearing a "monstrous bang" before the man's remains were discovered lying on the street ... Body parts were strewn over a 25-metre area, residents told The Daily Telegraph in London.

Holy damn; that man was hauling ass when he touched down!
 
2012-09-11 01:34:13 PM

madgordy: WhyteRaven74: nytmare: If pets can be transported in the cargo hold, so can people.

I'm aware of at least one case of someone hiding in a cargo hold not making it.

the cargo hold is only pressurized and heated IF there is a known live cargo. Otherwise, not so much.
I was working the mid shift for Airborne when a guy was discovered trying to ship himself from Alaska to NYC, he was discovered when he knocked over his pee jar prior to being loaded into the plane.


The cargo hold is always pressurized, it is within the (more or less) cylindrical pressure vessel. It might not be ventilated or directly heated if no live cargo is present, but it is always pressurized. At least for any relatively modern airliner.
 
2012-09-11 01:35:45 PM

WhyteRaven74: nytmare: If pets can be transported in the cargo hold, so can people.

I'm aware of at least one case of someone hiding in a cargo hold not making it.


I'm aware of one pet that almost didn't make it.

img269.imageshack.us

Left Savannah, GA in 80 degree temps. Arrived in Anchorage lethargic and hypothermic. Developed severe pneumonia by the next morning requiring an emergency trip to the vet's office and a 2 night hospital stay.

/she got better
 
2012-09-11 01:39:18 PM
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Welcome to the party, pal!
 
2012-09-11 01:46:53 PM

UtileDysfunktion: Paris1127: [media.avclub.com image 627x325]

First thing I thought of... Might be obscure for some, possibly because I couldn't find a better picture...

Bond Air? Obscure?


Huh? I can't tell whether you're saying "Bond Air" is not obscure or you're referencing "Bond Air" and then asking if it's obscure... Either way, I don't get the reference...

/the pic's from Sherlock, fyi
//episode: "A Scandal in Belgravia"
 
2012-09-11 01:49:49 PM
"That Chinese fellow dropped in some poor old boy's roof and into the bath. Looks like a bowl of gumbo with ribs."
 
2012-09-11 01:56:47 PM
Dropped from a plane, down in aaaaafriicaaaaa
Gonna take some time to pick up fragments of his heaaaaaaaaaaad... 
 
2012-09-11 01:57:24 PM
The body was said to get up and walk away. Without further evidence the reports are being treated as the unsubstantiated bullshiat they almost certainly are.
 
2012-09-11 02:03:24 PM

talkertopc: Eirik: So, how long before they mandate that the wheel wells need to be large enough to accommodate stowaways, you know, for the children?

Are you kidding me? The airlines are probably going to add paying seats in there and add a heat or pressurisation surcharge for people who choose a seat in the plane.


Oh dear god, don't give them any ideas!!!
 
2012-09-11 02:21:13 PM
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The Cold Equations- a 1954 short story by Tom Godwin (no, not the one who made the Law). Was adapted to screen 3 times, the one I'm familiar with was the 80's Twilight Zone version.

Perky idiot girl stows aboard an Emergency Dispatch Spaceship, which is given only an exact mass of fuel for acceleration and deceleration with only a tiny margin. Discovering her near the end of the flight, it becomes evident that there's no solution by to eject her into space. It's an unusual story in that they try to work through all the logical alternatives, but run out of nonessential equipment to jettison. The cargo is serum critically needed to prevent mass death at the destination so he can't just turn and miss the planet. She can't land the ship so him sacrificing himself instead would be pointless. See, logical alternatives are rarely done in fiction- everyone sticks with one premise "this one object must be used in this one way- that's the ONLY way this plot can be resolved. And there's only ONE of this object, no other can possibly exist or act as a substitute. Because we said so!"

The story's basic premise is to set up circumstances where she's done nothing at all malicious, just foolish- essentially innocent- yet must be executed in cold blood by another good person who is doing nothing wrong, not evil.

Still, it was bad science. Well, the basic premise was valid, but there's no conceivable reason a human's mass of ~65kg could be that critical. Well, part of the problem is they depicted this as a large spaceship for theatrical purposes, blocking and all (space to walk around). That dwarfs the mass of a single person, and you can see all sorts of set props that still might be removed. If it were a super-light minimalist capsule it would have been slightly more plausible, but then traditional blocking can't happen, and it's less plausible for someone to stow away in a closet. They didn't jettison clothing to save weight, either.

Of course, in modern times it's absurd for a weight-critical ship to be manned at all. But it was written in 1954 when that option wasn't prevalent, and the dramatic content basically still requires it even though the concept is obsolete.

It's also flawed in that almost all the fuel loss would happen on acceleration, deceleration doesn't quite work the same way. Pretty implausible that the discrepancy wasn't noticed before then, and also that the added weight causes an issue where there was still a way to land at all when most of the fuel loss was on acceleration. Generally the margin also just makes it less LIKELY to land based on unknowns of weather conditions, not a hard number.
 
2012-09-11 02:28:19 PM

Oznog: [movie-poster.allsubs.org image 500x500]

The Cold Equations- a 1954 short story by Tom Godwin (no, not the one who made the Law). Was adapted to screen 3 times, the one I'm familiar with was the 80's Twilight Zone version.

Perky idiot girl stows aboard an Emergency Dispatch Spaceship, which is given only an exact mass of fuel for acceleration and deceleration with only a tiny margin. Discovering her near the end of the flight, it becomes evident that there's no solution by to eject her into space. It's an unusual story in that they try to work through all the logical alternatives, but run out of nonessential equipment to jettison. The cargo is serum critically needed to prevent mass death at the destination so he can't just turn and miss the planet. She can't land the ship so him sacrificing himself instead would be pointless. See, logical alternatives are rarely done in fiction- everyone sticks with one premise "this one object must be used in this one way- that's the ONLY way this plot can be resolved. And there's only ONE of this object, no other can possibly exist or act as a substitute. Because we said so!"

The story's basic premise is to set up circumstances where she's done nothing at all malicious, just foolish- essentially innocent- yet must be executed in cold blood by another good person who is doing nothing wrong, not evil.

Still, it was bad science. Well, the basic premise was valid, but there's no conceivable reason a human's mass of ~65kg could be that critical. Well, part of the problem is they depicted this as a large spaceship for theatrical purposes, blocking and all (space to walk around). That dwarfs the mass of a single person, and you can see all sorts of set props that still might be removed. If it were a super-light minimalist capsule it would have been slightly more plausible, but then traditional blocking can't happen, and it's less plausible for someone to stow away in a closet. They didn't jettison clothing to save weigh ...


Lots of plot holes in that story... How long were they in space? What was she eating the whole time? How'd she even sneak on? If her weight made that much difference, and they were operating on a razor thin margin of error, I would think the ship would have never even taken off with her extra weight on it.
 
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