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(Outside The Redzone)   Dolphins not as bad in Week 1 as score would indicate, not as good as watching them on Hard Knocks   (outsidetheredzone.com) divider line 20
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2012-09-11 07:28:19 AM  
Nah they are pretty bad. Talent is thin at several positions, and they still can't finish in the red zone. The defense is OK, but doesn't force turnovers, and the secondary breaks down too quick.

If Tannehill continues getting passes batted down like he has all preseason and against the Texans then they might struggle to get one or two wins this year.

/FIreland
 
2012-09-11 08:23:54 AM  
I don't know, subbs, they are fortunate that Houston wasn't playing up to speed. The Dolphins are bad.
 
2012-09-11 09:14:02 AM  
All it took was one quarter to completely deflate them. The 3 interceptions and 1 fumble were just killing their confidence. Tannehill just wanted the half to be over, but it wouldn't end for him.

The Texans did not look good when playing off a punt, but I'll be damned if they don't rally around turnovers.
 
2012-09-11 10:01:35 AM  
If you take the second quarter away, the Dolphins actually outscored Houston 10-6.

If you ignore the part where they lost, they actually won.
 
2012-09-11 10:29:58 AM  
Dolphins were a horrible choice for hard knocks. No characters after Chad Johnson, boring coach, boring QB. They tried so hard to get that white TE's girlfriend in as many shots until he was cut since nothing else was going on. As usej.
 
2012-09-11 10:45:35 AM  

4NSpy: Dolphins were a horrible choice for hard knocks. No characters after Chad Johnson, boring coach, boring QB. They tried so hard to get that white TE's girlfriend in as many shots until he was cut since nothing else was going on. As usej.


Jets were the -obvious- choice. Surprised they couldn't make it happen.
 
2012-09-11 10:46:29 AM  
I don't think that comparing the entirety of the game is a good idea, considering Kubiak had the game locked at halftime and wasn't interested in running up the score.
 
2012-09-11 10:51:52 AM  

4NSpy: Dolphins were a horrible choice for hard knocks. No characters after Chad Johnson, boring coach, boring QB. They tried so hard to get that white TE's girlfriend in as many shots until he was cut since nothing else was going on. As usej.


Well they did get record ratings for the show on several episodes. You're right though...I'm a Dolphins fan and I thought they were a poor choice. Philbin may be the world's least interesting man. He doesn't drink, but if he did it would be a Bud Light.
 
2012-09-11 10:52:39 AM  

scottydoesntknow: All it took was one quarter to completely deflate them. The 3 interceptions and 1 fumble were just killing their confidence. Tannehill just wanted the half to be over, but it wouldn't end for him.


I don't understand why more teams don't have their QB holding a clipboard for year one and just give him some reps in garbage time. (I mean I understand from the business and the "we must win right this very second" standpoint)...

But time and time again...teams put all their faith in a young QB...and watch it fail. And time and time again...QBs who sit the first year (or so) are so much more prepared when the time comes. Even the ones that don't fail right away take years to get good.
 
2012-09-11 11:02:39 AM  
If you ignore the turnovers and missed receivers, Tannehill had a great game! On the plus side for him, his wife was the other good thing about Hard Knocks besides the TEs girlfriend, and he is still on the team.
 
2012-09-11 11:04:41 AM  

MayoSlather: Nah they are pretty bad. Talent is thin at several positions, and they still can't finish in the red zone. The defense is OK, but doesn't force turnovers, and the secondary breaks down too quick.

If Tannehill continues getting passes batted down like he has all preseason and against the Texans then they might struggle to get one or two wins this year.

/FIreland


WR and TE are the most glaring problem right now with Miami. Running a west coast offense with zero options in the passing game - and really, Miami has no one that I would consider an impact option at those positions - is a losing proposition week in and week out. I don't care who we are playing. The offensive line is intact and I expect they will continue to mesh into a productive unit this year. RBs look solid. The defensive line looks very good. Linebackers didn't produce during the Houston game, but they have the talent and the bodies to compete. The secondary would be a helluva lot stronger if our dumbass GM didn't trade away Vontae, so they will probably have to address that position with the new 2nd round pick.

Ireland is such an idiot. The guy has shown a pedestrian ability to evaluate talent, at best. So many draft failures coming out of his office. Free agents do not want to come to Miami because of him. Ireland should have been fired when Sparano was let go, and Ross should have let Carl Peterson lead the search for a new GM.
 
2012-09-11 11:09:49 AM  

KFBR392: scottydoesntknow: All it took was one quarter to completely deflate them. The 3 interceptions and 1 fumble were just killing their confidence. Tannehill just wanted the half to be over, but it wouldn't end for him.

I don't understand why more teams don't have their QB holding a clipboard for year one and just give him some reps in garbage time. (I mean I understand from the business and the "we must win right this very second" standpoint)...

But time and time again...teams put all their faith in a young QB...and watch it fail. And time and time again...QBs who sit the first year (or so) are so much more prepared when the time comes. Even the ones that don't fail right away take years to get good.


I've wondered about that, too. At the very least, they get used to the atmosphere of the NFL lifestyle before having to also shoulder the responsibility of playing. Also, they get more time to study the playbook.
 
2012-09-11 12:01:30 PM  

Orgasmatron138: KFBR392: scottydoesntknow: All it took was one quarter to completely deflate them. The 3 interceptions and 1 fumble were just killing their confidence. Tannehill just wanted the half to be over, but it wouldn't end for him.

I don't understand why more teams don't have their QB holding a clipboard for year one and just give him some reps in garbage time. (I mean I understand from the business and the "we must win right this very second" standpoint)...

But time and time again...teams put all their faith in a young QB...and watch it fail. And time and time again...QBs who sit the first year (or so) are so much more prepared when the time comes. Even the ones that don't fail right away take years to get good.

I've wondered about that, too. At the very least, they get used to the atmosphere of the NFL lifestyle before having to also shoulder the responsibility of playing. Also, they get more time to study the playbook.


Tannehill is running the same playbook that he had at TAMU. Miami's OC was his HC in college.
 
2012-09-11 12:17:33 PM  

Quiefenburger: Orgasmatron138: KFBR392: scottydoesntknow: All it took was one quarter to completely deflate them. The 3 interceptions and 1 fumble were just killing their confidence. Tannehill just wanted the half to be over, but it wouldn't end for him.

I don't understand why more teams don't have their QB holding a clipboard for year one and just give him some reps in garbage time. (I mean I understand from the business and the "we must win right this very second" standpoint)...

But time and time again...teams put all their faith in a young QB...and watch it fail. And time and time again...QBs who sit the first year (or so) are so much more prepared when the time comes. Even the ones that don't fail right away take years to get good.

I've wondered about that, too. At the very least, they get used to the atmosphere of the NFL lifestyle before having to also shoulder the responsibility of playing. Also, they get more time to study the playbook.

Tannehill is running the same playbook that he had at TAMU. Miami's OC was his HC in college.



Yeah, but going from college to NFL is so different. The game is faster, defenses are better (and blitzes and schemes are disguised better)...There is so much more than just memorizing plays...I could memorize the plays and run a practice...I'd probably end up in the hospital if tried to play in an actual game.
 
2012-09-11 01:35:54 PM  
They should continue the Hard Knocks series through the regular season because then things will be interesting. They have an easy road to the bye week:

Raiders - Loss
JETS - toss up it is at home, but the Jets played well last week.
Cardinals - toss up, but Kolb turned it on
Bengals - Bengals looked like crap against the Ravens, but who wouldn't? Bengals win
Rams - who knows

They could easily be 0-6 going into the bye or 3-3. The rest of their schedule are a bunch of toss ups too minus the two Patriots games and 49er game.

My point? I hope they lose everyone of them and Ross figures out Ireland is a DUMBASS! Until he is gone, the franchise can't really move on.
 
2012-09-11 01:36:46 PM  
To the Fins credit, they were giving Houston everything they could handle up until the 2nd quarter when JJ Watt decided to take the game into his own hands (literally). I think after that their confidence was shot. I see no reason why they can't beat up on the Raiders next week.
 
2012-09-11 02:48:11 PM  

Wettner: Cardinals - toss up, but Kolb turned it on


Kolb is a great reliever who is terrible at being a starter. But the Cards' defense will eat Tannehill for lunch.
 
2012-09-11 03:46:06 PM  
Tannehill needs to sit--Moore is a far better quarterback.


Lifelong Dolphins fan and you'd think this would get easier every year, but it doesn't.
 
2012-09-11 05:07:55 PM  

fastfxr: Lifelong Dolphins fan and you'd think this would get easier every year, but it doesn't.


You do get kind of numb. I live in Jets territory (well actually that would be Long Island but North Jersey has its share) and to be honest, the Jets fans don't even pick on me anymore. Well, my friends do, but random Jets fans at the sports bars actually give me credit for wearing Dolphins gear on Sunday.
 
2012-09-13 11:58:47 AM  

H31N0US: fastfxr: Lifelong Dolphins fan and you'd think this would get easier every year, but it doesn't.

You do get kind of numb. I live in Jets territory (well actually that would be Long Island but North Jersey has its share) and to be honest, the Jets fans don't even pick on me anymore. Well, my friends do, but random Jets fans at the sports bars actually give me credit for wearing Dolphins gear on Sunday.


I never liked the Tannnehill pick. So much of the fanbase wanted a QB in the 1st Round, whether that QB was worth it or not. So we wound up spending the 8th pick on a guy who's got all the same problems Henne had, with the added bonus of serious issues with getting the ball tipped at the line.

The draft picks have all sucked so far (no surprise given the GM). Martin can't block. Egnew can't catch or block. Lamar Miller makes Reggie Bush look like Greg Jones. With the exception of Olivier Vernon, who's simply mediocre, all the draft picks have sucked this year.

None of the moves the coaching staff has made make sense to me other than ditching Chad Johnson and perhaps trading Vontae -- although, even on the latter, I'd still take him over Sean Smith any day of the week.

People wanted a fast, high-scoring offense. Instead it looks like Henning-Henne on depressants. Daboll's offense under Moore looks like the Patriots next to this.
 
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