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(CBC)   You used a picture of a penny? That'll be $1200 please   (cbc.ca) divider line 94
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2012-09-11 06:30:13 AM
Suggestion: He should just skip the picture and glue a real Penny onto each album.

Instant WIN in the comments section.

/Plus one for appropriate usage of the Asinine tag.
 
2012-09-11 07:39:48 AM
Wow. That's RIAA-style douche, right there
 
2012-09-11 07:45:39 AM
Change the album name to "F*ck pennies", and remove the image.
 
2012-09-11 07:47:17 AM
Patent/Copyright laws will be the death of Western Civillization, especially since entities are forced to defend them in every instance.

/Mint is just protecting itself and following the law
 
2012-09-11 07:48:11 AM

Trance750: Wow. That's RIAA-style douche, right there


The Canadians have learned well.
 
2012-09-11 07:48:32 AM
This is a surprise? Most works of fiction are copyrighted.
 
2012-09-11 07:49:23 AM
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2012-09-11 07:50:14 AM
What do I owe?
 
2012-09-11 07:50:52 AM
Use of that penny has got him huge amounts of publicity for only $12000
 
2012-09-11 07:54:28 AM

Summercat: Patent/Copyright laws will be the death of Western Civillization, especially since entities are forced to defend them in every instance.

/Mint is just protecting itself and following the law


Technically, that's just trademarks; copyrights and patents you don't have to protect if you don't want to.
 
2012-09-11 08:05:23 AM
Why should the mint "have to" protect it's IP? It seems a little more reasonable to simply enact a law outlining acceptable use of currency imagery. Which, IMO, should mean "you can't replicate the image of any currency in an attempt to use it as currency" - and that's it.
 
2012-09-11 08:09:38 AM

untaken_name: This is a surprise? Most works of fiction are copyrighted.


Architecture is art. So is fashion design. Be prepared for a lot of boring CD covers.
 
2012-09-11 08:11:48 AM
Mint... suck on it.
 
2012-09-11 08:13:48 AM
upload.wikimedia.org

I wonder how long until the US government takes this as a cue to go retroactively sue the Cobain estate
 
2012-09-11 08:16:24 AM
"Gunning said he had no idea the mint would charge for images of its coins."

Not to be a dick, but it's the guy's own damn fault he owes money. If you're going to be printing copies of an image, you first check what permissions you need. This is common sense.

He doesn't get my sympathy or my pennies.
 
2012-09-11 08:17:11 AM
prosecuting people for violating a copyright is not protecting yourself. it is suing a fan to increase your own ability to make monopolist profit from the image. does the canadian mint need to make monopolist profit from the penny image? the us mint does not, and cannot hold copyrights.
 
2012-09-11 08:22:27 AM

LordOfThePings: What do I owe?


You owe me a new keyboard.

/*golfclap*
 
2012-09-11 08:22:45 AM
Share it fairly but don't take a slice of my pie.
 
2012-09-11 08:23:27 AM
I agree with the commenter who said that the government itself or it's agencies should not be allowed to hold copyrights. We pay for everything they do, so everything they print and images of their "products" should be public domain.
 
2012-09-11 08:23:31 AM

ChromoSomes: Mint... suck on it.


Awesome

+1
 
2012-09-11 08:23:53 AM

Summercat: Patent/Copyright laws will be the death of Western Civillization


You know, I used to think that the terrorist based nations and extreme dictators were going to be the cause of our downfall. With the advancements in technology, weapons development, religious fanaticism, Dictators flexing their Military's abilities on the world stage, the refusal to export oil and other raw goods to the US and the like. Really, I thought that this is what would cause the major damages to us. But now, as I step back and see the protections that Big Business/Wall Street has lobbied so hard for...the patent after patent of total bullshiat and the ever present lawsuit after lawsuit of one company to another...I see what our downfall will be. Corporations and IP law.

Our collapse will not be quick, rather other countries that laugh at the ridiculousness of US IP laws will continue to develop their products without restriction and eventually surpass us in technology, weapons advancements and the like.
 
2012-09-11 08:23:59 AM
"The Mint has an Intellectual Property Policy

Not in my opinion it doesn't.
 
WD
2012-09-11 08:26:41 AM
They have to subsidize the things somehow!
 
2012-09-11 08:28:21 AM
Is there any chance this guy will sell 2000 albums?
It's not like he's Loverboy, or anything.
 
2012-09-11 08:28:21 AM
Owe, Canada.
 
2012-09-11 08:28:24 AM

vartian: untaken_name: This is a surprise? Most works of fiction are copyrighted.

Architecture is art. So is fashion design. Be prepared for a lot of boring CD covers.


So what you're saying is that nothing is changing, then?
 
2012-09-11 08:29:41 AM
No More Pennies is the gayest name for an album ever.
 
2012-09-11 08:29:42 AM

PunkRockLawyer: If you're going to be printing copies of an image, you first check what permissions you need. This is common sense.


He's not using a copyrighted image without permission, but rather the problem is that the *subject* of the image is itself copyrighted. It's a reasonable expectation that one could take a photograph of money and publish it without worrying about such things, but this is apparently not the case in Canada.
 
2012-09-11 08:31:37 AM
I used to have a copy of Noel Coward singing "Here's a penny for your thoughts and incidentally you can keep the change".

Can't find that now.
 
2012-09-11 08:31:47 AM

quatchi: Suggestion: He should just skip the picture and glue a real Penny onto each album.

Instant WIN in the comments section.

/Plus one for appropriate usage of the Asinine tag.


Since they stopped making pennies that might cause a contraction in the remaining supply.

Then again they're all twisted up over 2000 copy printings. Oh, and they want 60 cents per copy, plenty of reason to redo the art work.
 
2012-09-11 08:33:12 AM

Saber: No More Pennies is the gayest name for an album ever.


I misread it at first as "No More Peonies", which I submit would be a gayer album name.
 
2012-09-11 08:35:56 AM
 
2012-09-11 08:37:42 AM

StrangeQ: [upload.wikimedia.org image 220x220]

I wonder how long until the US government takes this as a cue to go retroactively sue the Cobain estate


In the United States, works of the U.S. government and other governments are automatically in the public domain.

Canadians might want to look into copying this law. We won't even charge a fee for it.
 
2012-09-11 08:39:29 AM
Governments should not be allowed to hold copyrights for which they can extort fees from their own citizens. It was created with public funds. That copyright should rightfully belong to the public and be unencumbered.
 
2012-09-11 08:41:38 AM

StrangeQ: [upload.wikimedia.org image 220x220]

I wonder how long until the US government takes this as a cue to go retroactively sue the Cobain estate


Actually, the images on US coins and bills are works of the US Government and therefore not subject to copyright, just counterfeiting laws. So you can reproduce them, just not in a manner that would be confused with real money. You can reproduce the images much smaller or larger than real money.
 
2012-09-11 08:42:39 AM
Only in America!
 
2012-09-11 08:43:24 AM

cgremlin: It's a reasonable expectation that one could take a photograph of money and publish it without worrying about such things, but this is apparently not the case in Canada.


If our bendover-boy PM Harper gets his way talking about pennies will be chargeable. For his infinite faults his predecessor still had the stones to tell the American IP Taliban to screw themselves. Harper starts lubing before the wheels leave LAX.
 
2012-09-11 08:48:15 AM

Mr. Potatoass: Is there any chance this guy will sell 2000 albums?
It's not like he's Loverboy, or anything.


Maybe he's just working for the weekend?
 
2012-09-11 08:49:08 AM
That just loonie
 
2012-09-11 08:52:19 AM
Wow. So does this mean I don't even have any money, I'm just renting a license to pretend I have possession of money?
 
2012-09-11 08:52:48 AM

Mr_Crink: Only in America!


Please tell me you don't mean this

/*face palm*
 
2012-09-11 08:52:55 AM

Nem Wan: StrangeQ: [upload.wikimedia.org image 220x220]

I wonder how long until the US government takes this as a cue to go retroactively sue the Cobain estate

In the United States, works of the U.S. government and other governments are automatically in the public domain.

Canadians might want to look into copying this law. We won't even charge a fee for it.


Yeah, unless you're Boeing, Ford or Chrysler etc and seem to think that aircraft and vehicles designed for the government during WW II are somehow deserving of royalties.
 
2012-09-11 08:53:20 AM

Trance750: Mr. Potatoass: Is there any chance this guy will sell 2000 albums?
It's not like he's Loverboy, or anything.

Maybe he's just working for the weekend?


Maybe he just wants a little romance?
 
2012-09-11 08:58:41 AM
So a real penny is worth one cent but a picture of a penny is worth $1.60. That makes cents.
yep. quatchi wins the thread. Remove the picture of the penny and tape a penny to cd jacket.
 
2012-09-11 09:01:29 AM
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2012-09-11 09:03:34 AM

PunkRockLawyer: "Gunning said he had no idea the mint would charge for images of its coins."

Not to be a dick, but it's the guy's own damn fault he owes money. If you're going to be printing copies of an image, you first check what permissions you need. This is common sense.

He doesn't get my sympathy or my pennies.


Well, since taxpayers paid for the creation of the mint and continue to pay for its ongoing operating expenses, it was reasonable to assume that any products of that mint wouldn't be subjected to trademarks. I know *I* was surprised.
 
2012-09-11 09:07:14 AM
I was on the fence about canada. I am no longer.

/dicks
 
2012-09-11 09:14:25 AM
contravening?
 
2012-09-11 09:18:51 AM

Thudfark: Nem Wan: StrangeQ: [upload.wikimedia.org image 220x220]

I wonder how long until the US government takes this as a cue to go retroactively sue the Cobain estate

In the United States, works of the U.S. government and other governments are automatically in the public domain.

Canadians might want to look into copying this law. We won't even charge a fee for it.

Yeah, unless you're Boeing, Ford or Chrysler etc and seem to think that aircraft and vehicles designed for the government during WW II are somehow deserving of royalties.


It's not really a work OF the U.S. Government then, is it? It's a work of Boeing, Ford or Chrysler.

The whole thing about government works is meant so that manuals and regulations, forms and official working documents and products of the government (not government contractors) are in the open.

In the U.S.A. you can reproduce images of money all day, as long as you're not trying to counterfiet them by making an image that could be used in place of the real thing.

Those old US government instructional films on Youtube? Not copyrighted because they are a work of the US government.

U.S. government forms, manuals, pamphlets, regulations, and such? Not copyrighted.

The US government can have trademarks and patents though, IIRC the United States Marine Corps has patent and trademark protections on their MARPAT camouflage uniforms, but not copyright.
 
2012-09-11 09:19:12 AM
$1,200.00 Cdn? That's like 123,504 'merikun pennies!
 
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