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(The Atlantic)   A September 11th catastrophe you've probably never heard about   (theatlantic.com) divider line 50
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2012-09-10 09:48:50 PM
I can't really say if our government is more contemptible now or then.
 
2012-09-10 10:46:07 PM
Never forg-oh, wait.
 
2012-09-10 11:42:31 PM
From what I've been told, that is not anywhere NEAR the only "close call" they've had at Rocky Flats.
 
2012-09-11 12:09:52 AM

Demetrius: I can't really say if our government is more contemptible now or then.


Well, until recently, we had a very intelligent ban on more nuclear reactors, so we were smarter for a while.
 
2012-09-11 03:34:33 AM
All the Jews working there were told not to show up to work that day.
 
2012-09-11 03:34:44 AM
It really eats when today's your birthday.
 
2012-09-11 03:36:03 AM
Actually, I had heard about this, but only because I heard an interview about this women's book on NPR a month or two back.

But don't you dare question the nuclear age, citizen.
 
2012-09-11 03:37:03 AM

Straight to doom: It really eats when today's your birthday.


It's okay. It only affects something a little more than a quarter of a percent of all people.
 
2012-09-11 03:38:10 AM
Hipster catastrophes?
 
2012-09-11 03:38:38 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Straight to doom: It really eats when today's your birthday.

It's okay. It only affects something a little more than a quarter of a percent of all people.


So I'm .25 of .01... I think I'll have my cake no- fark.
 
2012-09-11 03:41:26 AM

Straight to doom: It really eats when today's your birthday.


I thought about people with 9/11 for a B'Day. That must suck.
Anyway, have a good one.
 
2012-09-11 03:43:50 AM
The second lucky break occurred when a firefighter was unable to push a burning pile of plutonium into a corner.


Hey, somebody give me a hand pushing this burning pile of plutonium into the corner.
 
2012-09-11 03:46:12 AM

RayD8: Straight to doom: It really eats when today's your birthday.

I thought about people with 9/11 for a B'Day. That must suck.
Anyway, have a good one.


It's off to a rough start, but if I'm lucky my HDTV will get fixed or I'll be up one Fall of Cybertron. Either way I win.
 
2012-09-11 03:49:46 AM

Straight to doom: It really eats when today's your birthday.


Happy Birthday....and I really do hope it gets better from here on out :3 (and you have many more!)
 
2012-09-11 03:54:08 AM
Rumor has it that the so-called "demon core" involved in multiple criticality accidents and deaths at Los Alamos made its way to Colorado. It's just been sitting there, biding its time, with only the occasional outburst to mark its atomic rage. People say the whole Rocky Flats area is lousy with Azathoth cultists, praying and making sacrifices in the hopes that their mindless god will make his presence felt on earth, even for just a few entropic moments...
 
2012-09-11 03:54:13 AM

Hector Remarkable: The second lucky break occurred when a firefighter was unable to push a burning pile of plutonium into a corner.


Hey, somebody give me a hand pushing this burning pile of plutonium into the corner.


Nobody puts plutonium in a corner
 
2012-09-11 03:56:18 AM
 
2012-09-11 04:17:21 AM
 
2012-09-11 04:19:03 AM

Paris1127: Here's another nuclear near catastrophe you've probably never heard of...

But that's only one entry on lists of civilian nuclear accidents, of civilian nuclear incidents, and of military nuclear accidents.


Do you have a link to a site that shows how many people are dying from volatile and particulate coal emissions in ways that don't show up on either Geiger counters or CNN?
 
2012-09-11 04:25:02 AM
It's extremely fashionable!
 
2012-09-11 04:30:06 AM

cptjeff: Actually, I had heard about this, but only because I heard an interview about this women's book on NPR a month or two back.

But don't you dare question the nuclear age, citizen.


Ehh, a hundred times as many people die every year from coal - either from accidents in mining it or from the various unpleasant diseases you get from the pollution. When nuclear power kills people, they die all at once in one very dramatic catastrophe and so it feels scarier, but overall it's still probably safer than most of the alternatives.
 
2012-09-11 04:33:11 AM
Good to know that Dow chemicals not only contaminated foreign soil.

And yay for government secrecy. I guess in 50 years time they will have to admit either they or a company was behind 9/11
 
2012-09-11 04:40:02 AM

RayD8: I thought about people with 9/11 for a B'Day. That must suck.
Anyway, have a good one.


Today's my anniversary!

/We had it first, so SUCK it, Bin Laden!
/Oh wait, you can't.
/Because you're dead.
 
2012-09-11 04:46:39 AM
The marriage of my parents?

/Still married after 38 years.
//I have no idea why.
 
2012-09-11 05:00:11 AM
that was a great article.
I remember hearing a piece in NPR several months ago, either Fresh Air or All things Considered where they talked about this too.
Thanks Subby,
 
2012-09-11 05:07:45 AM

lucksi: Good to know that Dow chemicals not only contaminated foreign soil.

And yay for government secrecy. I guess in 50 years time they will have to admit either they or a company was behind 9/11


Are Dow the agent orange guys?

If so, those really suck.
 
2012-09-11 05:08:54 AM
THEY really suck.
/Dammit.
 
2012-09-11 05:16:30 AM
 
2012-09-11 05:21:48 AM

Tsar_Bomba1: SL-1 is pretty fascinating...


SL-1 is my favorite reactor accident.
 
2012-09-11 05:44:17 AM
I got engaged two years ago today. Mostly so I wouldn't forget the date. I forgot the date. But I'm married now so another date's a little more important.

Anywho, off to wish everyone a happy 9/11.

/It's only a matter of time before it becomes a bank holiday
//Call me stupid but the whole thing is still suspect
///You trust the Govt. or the Internet?
 
2012-09-11 06:10:17 AM
This is not to excuse what happened, but the development of nuclear weapons and the cold war means that certain communities were dumped on in a major way and hundreds of thousands in more localized/minor ways. The areas around Oak Ridge, Hanford, and Rocky Flats face significant issues thanks to their importance in national defense. It is tragic, but ultimately many of the positives out of those institutions contributed to the end of the cold war. The legacy of contaimination makes it easy to forget about the work that went on there and benefits gained.
 
2012-09-11 06:44:44 AM
BUILDING SEVEN!!!
 
2012-09-11 06:47:53 AM
I realized only this morning that it's THE ANNIVERSARY OF 9/11! Maybe that suggests we've moved on from a decade of pants-shiatting paranoia.
 
2012-09-11 07:05:00 AM
Let's go bomb Iran as a distraction. Iran caused 9/11 anyway, so they deserve it.
 
2012-09-11 07:50:44 AM

Bonanza Jellybean: Rumor has it that the so-called "demon core" involved in multiple criticality accidents and deaths at Los Alamos made its way to Colorado. It's just been sitting there, biding its time, with only the occasional outburst to mark its atomic rage. People say the whole Rocky Flats area is lousy with Azathoth cultists, praying and making sacrifices in the hopes that their mindless god will make his presence felt on earth, even for just a few entropic moments...


Last I heard the demon core went out in this blaze of glory...

upload.wikimedia.org 

but maybe that's what they want us to think, muhahahahahaha
 
2012-09-11 07:56:13 AM
I knew about the fire but I didn't know the date. At the time it was the most expensive industrial fire in world history. I remember reading one guy's description. He said he was running past the lead-lined room where they kept the plutonium. The room was on fire and molten drops of lead were falling from the ceiling like glowing raindrops.
img52.imageshack.us
 
2012-09-11 08:02:58 AM
September 11, 1957 and the fire in Building 71.
September 11, 2001 and the fire in Building 7.
 
2012-09-11 08:17:13 AM
upload.wikimedia.org

The second biggest disaster of September 11, 2001.
 
2012-09-11 08:18:42 AM

halloran: September 11, 1957 and the fire in Building 71.
September 11, 2001 and the fire in Building 7.


Conspiracy? in my 9-11?
 
2012-09-11 09:06:41 AM
Oh, another moronic anti-nuke article.
 
2012-09-11 09:29:40 AM

RminusQ: [upload.wikimedia.org image 300x300]

The second biggest disaster of September 11, 2001.


static.rateyourmusic.com (Original cover was a Bible covered in blood) The white cross dust-jacket was added because the album was too offensive.

And most notably:
upload.wikimedia.org

It originally actually had this cover upon release:

static.rateyourmusic.com

Yes, it's the WTC in flames in the middle of it. Dream Theater was just beyond themselves after the events. The album was pulled and new cover released. Crazy stuff, eh? How in the hell does something like that coincide?
 
2012-09-11 09:31:11 AM

Ambivalence: From what I've been told, that is not anywhere NEAR the only "close call" they've had at Rocky Flats.


Very very true. I had a friend who worked there as a machinist during the 80s. After two years his kids began using him as a nightlite.

On the other hand, this 1957 incident explains Boulder.
 
2012-09-11 10:17:55 AM
My birthday is on the first day of Iraq War invasion and so every year I am late getting home because of the protests.
 
2012-09-11 10:37:49 AM

Straight to doom: It really eats when today's your birthday.


My cousin's birthday is today. She's the only one who I think of as having a worse Bday than I do. Christmas Eve is not a good day for the type of fun I like to have.
 
2012-09-11 10:45:37 AM

GAT_00: Well, until recently, we had a very intelligent ban on more nuclear reactors, so we were smarter for a while.


You mean the ban that kept us from building newer, safer and more efficient nuclear power plants, while the first-generation plants that had already been built had their operation licenses and contracts extended well past plants' recommended lifetime, and corners cut to maintain the status quo?

How'd that work out for the Japanese?
 
2012-09-11 11:40:48 AM
i141.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-11 12:07:49 PM
9/11/1857
Never forget
 
2012-09-11 01:28:30 PM

fat boy: 9/11/1857
Never forget


That's what I was expecting. Crazy religious zealots.
 
2012-09-11 02:37:48 PM

Clemkadidlefark: On the other hand, this 1957 incident explains Boulder.


Amen.
 
2012-09-11 05:47:21 PM
I think the History Channel had this on their show Enginering Disasters
 
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