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2012-09-10 09:19:31 PM  
Hello. Can I borrow a cup of "sugar?"
 
2012-09-10 09:21:10 PM  
"If he did," she said in her yard across the street from her son and the Smiths, "he was drunk."

Oh, if he was drunk it's all fine then.
 
2012-09-10 09:23:13 PM  

serial_crusher: "If he did," she said in her yard across the street from her son and the Smiths, "he was drunk."

Oh, if he was drunk it's all fine then.


THANKS MOM!
 
2012-09-10 09:26:05 PM  

serial_crusher: "If he did," she said in her yard across the street from her son and the Smiths, "he was drunk."

Oh, if he was drunk it's all fine then.


"No no, my son wasn't drunk... the victim's mom wants to take over our LAND. Yeah, that's it!"

/how many other excuses did this woman come up with?
 
2012-09-10 09:45:56 PM  
I seriously thought that said "Horny Country"
 
2012-09-10 09:46:42 PM  
Did his mommy defend him in court too?
 
2012-09-10 09:59:21 PM  
"When it's all stripped away," Smith said, "I still have a convicted, registered sex offender living next door."

Am I allowed to chuckle at that statement? Because it's making me chuckle.
 
2012-09-10 10:03:01 PM  

gameshowhost: "When it's all stripped away," Smith said, "I still have a convicted, registered sex offender living next door."

Am I allowed to chuckle at that statement? Because it's making me chuckle.


Really? kinda makes me all stroppy and gun-cleanie.
And edgy.
Really edgy.
Like sitting-on-the-roof- with a night-scope-and-twitchy edgy.
 
2012-09-10 10:07:55 PM  
Smith said his daughter told him that Marlowe, who was standing on his side of the fence, started what would have been a criminal conversation by asking the 10-year-old her bra size. He then said he wanted to rub lotion on her, exposed himself to her and leaned over the fence to kiss her, Smith said.

Oh FFS. What the f*cking hell? Can you not get a restraining order? But yes the guy should be allowed nowhere near the 10 year old he exposed himself to.
 
2012-09-10 10:16:50 PM  
According to Candice Lively, senior assistant 5th District solicitor who prosecuted the case, Marlowe did not try to grope the girl, but admitted he was drink and that he asked her if she would sleep with him.


Ah, the spell checker. Best friend of the lazy journalist.
 
2012-09-10 11:43:40 PM  

vudukungfu: gameshowhost: "When it's all stripped away," Smith said, "I still have a convicted, registered sex offender living next door."

Am I allowed to chuckle at that statement? Because it's making me chuckle.

Really? kinda makes me all stroppy and gun-cleanie.
And edgy.
Really edgy.
Like sitting-on-the-roof- with a night-scope-and-twitchy edgy.


So you didn't think the preface "When it's all stripped away," tied the sentence together. :|
 
2012-09-10 11:52:16 PM  
"Due to high population of transients..."

gya-!
 
2012-09-11 01:00:14 AM  
Neighborhood cookouts are going to be awkward as hell.
 
2012-09-11 02:35:22 AM  
Regardless of whether or not you think he's guilty, he was convicted, and the fact that a convicted sex offender slipped through the cracks (no pun intended) and is now living next door to the victim...that's really farking pathetic. That's some mighty fine police work there, Lou.
 
2012-09-11 03:57:10 AM  
If I were him, I would get the fark away from there as fast as I could. After something like this, there will be people who will try to kill him because he lives that close to his victim.
 
2012-09-11 04:13:07 AM  

RedPhoenix122: the fact that a convicted sex offender slipped through the cracks (no pun intended) and is now living next door to the victim...that's really farking pathetic.


Honestly, he's about the only sex offender that DIDN'T slip through the cracks in America. Do you have any idea how many people are driven into homelessness and unable to work after realtively minor sex convictions because of sex offender registries? Neither do I. No one does. Which is why the article mentioned that it's refreshing that he was able to get arrested because usually it's wandering hobos molesting the kids and they wander some more and are lost to the night. farkin' scary shiat if you take the time to read the subtext.


I'm in agreement he SHOULD go, even if he DIDN'T do it because the Dad will be after him with a shotgun at some point, but I don't think it's unreasonable that a property owner, newly convicted, be allowed to reside at their property for a short time to settle their affairs. It's not like he's been uncooperative since his arrest.

Also if this WAS a political power play by the family next door, they really don't deserve the property so he needs a little time to sell it to someone else. It's not at all uncommon for a hatchet job to ruin someone's reputation before an attempt to seize their assets. It's actually a really good strategy as it lowers their ability to defy your attempted coup. Look at how hard the Republicans have been digging for dirt on Obama. They wouldn't be doing that if it didn't work in politics when dirt were stuck.

But to say he "fell through the cracks" as opposed to "got a sane judge" is bit disingenuous.
 
2012-09-11 04:24:10 AM  

doglover: RedPhoenix122: the fact that a convicted sex offender slipped through the cracks (no pun intended) and is now living next door to the victim...that's really farking pathetic.

Honestly, he's about the only sex offender that DIDN'T slip through the cracks in America. Do you have any idea how many people are driven into homelessness and unable to work after realtively minor sex convictions because of sex offender registries? Neither do I. No one does. Which is why the article mentioned that it's refreshing that he was able to get arrested because usually it's wandering hobos molesting the kids and they wander some more and are lost to the night. farkin' scary shiat if you take the time to read the subtext.


I'm in agreement he SHOULD go, even if he DIDN'T do it because the Dad will be after him with a shotgun at some point, but I don't think it's unreasonable that a property owner, newly convicted, be allowed to reside at their property for a short time to settle their affairs. It's not like he's been uncooperative since his arrest.

Also if this WAS a political power play by the family next door, they really don't deserve the property so he needs a little time to sell it to someone else. It's not at all uncommon for a hatchet job to ruin someone's reputation before an attempt to seize their assets. It's actually a really good strategy as it lowers their ability to defy your attempted coup. Look at how hard the Republicans have been digging for dirt on Obama. They wouldn't be doing that if it didn't work in politics when dirt were stuck.

But to say he "fell through the cracks" as opposed to "got a sane judge" is bit disingenuous.


That's a fair point. But you also do hear about sex offenders being relocated (especially by the Catholic Church), or just those that didn't register, and the police never followed up on it. And there's no levels for sex offender, so that runs the gambit between "trouser malfunction" and "legitimate rape-rape". My only issue is that when convicted, they should have at least made sure there was some range between the offender and the victim. Next door is too close.
 
2012-09-11 05:17:03 AM  

RedPhoenix122: Next door is too close.


I agree, if it's something likely to persist. But I'm sure, especially after this article, he'll be moving toot sweet. (sic) I wasn't joking when I said the dad's likely to come after the guy with a shotgun at some point.

But this is just a very unfortunate case that you will see again where the only reasonable option seems very unreasonable because of the retarded restrictions placed on people who manage to get on one of these Orwellian shiats lists. It's gonna be really hard for him to move and subsist anywhere now without becoming a hobo or living at the property his family already owns. If he's not going to jail and he's not being executed, where else is he gonna go on short notice?

If you want actual draconian law, you have to put on your man pants and just kill people who probably don't deserve to die for minor and frivolous infractions of law. Think Judge Dredd, but with a bronze spear. If you don't want actual draconian law, sometimes you have to deal with temporary discomfort vis a vis actual reason and compassion being applied to enforcing the stricter of the penalties that isn't straight up PMITA time.
 
2012-09-11 05:19:24 AM  
Draco from Horrible Histories

This is draconian law. Please consider that this is what the constitution was trying to AVOID.
 
2012-09-11 05:23:56 AM  

RedPhoenix122: That's a fair point. But you also do hear about sex offenders being relocated (especially by the Catholic Church),


To be fair, the Catholic Church is relocating priests, which they do pretty regularly anyways, kind of like the military shifting it's members around. Priests, unlike normal people, also aren't supposed to have 'real property', it's all owned by the church. Makes moving out of the church provided home into a new one easier. No 15% value bite from having to hire a real estate agent and do all that crud(and if he needs to sell ASAP, he's going to need an agent).

or just those that didn't register, and the police never followed up on it. And there's no levels for sex offender, so that runs the gambit between "trouser malfunction" and "legitimate rape-rape". My only issue is that when convicted, they should have at least made sure there was some range between the offender and the victim. Next door is too close.

There are levels, but not for the registration requirements.
 
2012-09-11 05:27:32 AM  
Keep your friends close, your sex offenders closer.
 
2012-09-11 05:33:11 AM  

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Cool. I always wanted to join the Next-door Sex Offender Club.
 
2012-09-11 05:35:08 AM  

ManateeGag: I seriously thought that said "Horny Country"


I saw 'Horror County'
 
2012-09-11 05:53:57 AM  

hackhix: serial_crusher: "If he did," she said in her yard across the street from her son and the Smiths, "he was drunk."

Oh, if he was drunk it's all fine then.

THANKS MOM!


Yeah, that's a vote of confidence.
 
2012-09-11 06:35:23 AM  
Convenient.
 
2012-09-11 06:36:31 AM  
Haters gonna hate.
 
2012-09-11 06:54:17 AM  
FTA: Marlowe, who was standing on his side of the fence, started what would have been a criminal conversation by asking the 10-year-old her bra size.

Is it really illegal to ask someone their bra size? Or did they just word that badly, and the "criminal" part is what came next?
 
2012-09-11 06:56:35 AM  
d99929140340823821.typepad.com

"Oh him? He moved."
 
2012-09-11 07:04:52 AM  

gameshowhost: vudukungfu: gameshowhost: "When it's all stripped away," Smith said, "I still have a convicted, registered sex offender living next door."

Am I allowed to chuckle at that statement? Because it's making me chuckle.

Really? kinda makes me all stroppy and gun-cleanie.
And edgy.
Really edgy.
Like sitting-on-the-roof- with a night-scope-and-twitchy edgy.

So you didn't think the preface "When it's all stripped away," tied the sentence together. :|


Don't feel bad - I couldn't read the article, but the snippet you put up there made
me chuckle too.

Ain't disagreein' with vudukungfu, either. But yeah, the choice of words, was, well,
choice.
 
2012-09-11 07:15:31 AM  

Bhruic: FTA: Marlowe, who was standing on his side of the fence, started what would have been a criminal conversation by asking the 10-year-old her bra size.

Is it really illegal to ask someone their bra size? Or did they just word that badly, and the "criminal" part is what came next?


10 year olds wear bras?
 
2012-09-11 07:32:02 AM  
The Smiths laughed when they were told Osborne said the whole mess was cooked up by Laura Smith.

That seems like an unusual reaction to your ten-year-old traumatized daughter being accused of lying about something so serious and ruining someone's life and you yourselves are accused of perjury.
 
2012-09-11 07:42:35 AM  
Horry County man outraged that his daughter's sex offender can continue to live next door

She owns her own sex offender at 10 years old? I'm 36 and I still can't afford one. Damn spoiled kids.
 
2012-09-11 07:52:53 AM  

AndreMA: The Smiths laughed when they were told Osborne said the whole mess was cooked up by Laura Smith.
That seems like an unusual reaction to your ten-year-old traumatized daughter being accused of lying about something so serious and ruining someone's life and you yourselves are accused of perjury.


I'd say you have a point here. I think the guy is some kind of screwed up but at the same time I agree with you.
 
2012-09-11 08:09:48 AM  

vudukungfu: Hello. Can I borrow a cup of "sugar?"


Sounds like the starrt of a bad porn.
 
2012-09-11 08:24:34 AM  
I'm confused. How would this end in them getting his land? do victims get property?
 
2012-09-11 08:29:54 AM  

spentshells: AndreMA: The Smiths laughed when they were told Osborne said the whole mess was cooked up by Laura Smith.
That seems like an unusual reaction to your ten-year-old traumatized daughter being accused of lying about something so serious and ruining someone's life and you yourselves are accused of perjury.

I'd say you have a point here. I think the guy is some kind of screwed up but at the same time I agree with you.


Yeah, I don't think anyone in TFA has their head screwed on straight.
 
2012-09-11 08:30:43 AM  

MythDragon: Horry County man outraged that his daughter's sex offender can continue to live next door

She owns her own sex offender at 10 years old? I'm 36 and I still can't afford one. Damn spoiled kids.


You're better off... They require lots of care and attention... You have to feed them, bring them fresh alcohol every day, occassionally let them molest you, etc... It's a big responsibility!
 
2012-09-11 08:34:09 AM  

5monkeys: I'm confused. How would this end in them getting his land? do victims get property?


Step 1: Demonize your enemy. "He's dang dum diddy kiddler!"

Step 2: Force drive them off. *internet lynch mob drives off neighbor after this story*

Step 3: Be the only one who wants the property and acquire it for pennies on the dollar after telling all prospective buyers the previous guy was a pedo and had a torture dungeon and probably a meth lab too.

Not even hard. Just highly unethical.

Then again, it could be they're just neighbors whose alcoholic waste of a next door really did try to lotion up their ten year old while drunk.
 
2012-09-11 08:34:16 AM  

I think the allegation is that they hoped to buy it at fire-sale prices. Possibly by depressing the price by badmouthing the seller... which they already did in reference to the posibility of selling their own home:


He'd sell his home and move, he said, but he doesn't think anyone would buy it after discovering what's next door.


Note the demonization in using "what's" rather than "who's"

No idea if they are actually after the property, but their behavior doesn't do much to dispell the notion for me.
 
2012-09-11 08:46:20 AM  

MythDragon: Horry County man outraged that his daughter's sex offender can continue to live next door

She owns her own sex offender at 10 years old? I'm 36 and I still can't afford one. Damn spoiled kids.


It almost seems like she was issued one when she became a certain age...
 
2012-09-11 08:58:49 AM  

Bhruic: FTA: Marlowe, who was standing on his side of the fence, started what would have been a criminal conversation by asking the 10-year-old her bra size.

Is it really illegal to ask someone their bra size? Or did they just word that badly, and the "criminal" part is what came next?


Beats me. But I certainly enjoyed having it pointed out that saying the wrong thing can make one a criminal.
 
2012-09-11 09:13:44 AM  
That's some of the worst writing I've read in months. Steve Jones of The Sun News is a really bad writer.
 
2012-09-11 09:15:43 AM  
Sex offenders (and calling this guy one is really stretching it) must register, but they cannot be compelled to sell their home and move. So if these cretins don't want to live next to a sex offender, the onus is on them to move, not Marlowe.
 
2012-09-11 09:16:05 AM  
Here's the thing: is it illegal for him to live there otherwise? Was he ordered by the court to specifically stay away from where she lives? If not, too bad. I guess my perspective has changed, but my girlfriend works for the county and she has a case where a pre-teen is living across the street from the man who raped her mother at the same age and sent her into a spiral of prostitution and drug use. The court doesn't care enough to allow the girl to move to a different relative's house over the current guardian's objections, even with the case worker requesting it.

If the judge didn't take steps to prevent this, then it's on him or her. Or maybe the judge didn't see the whole thing as quite so credible as the story has led us to believe.
 
2012-09-11 09:16:19 AM  
Lively said that what Marlowe did was creepy, but she doesn't believe he is a sex offender. He has none of the characteristics that fit the profile of a sex offender, she said.

What part of asking a ten year old to describe her undergarments, lotion up, and sleep with you doesn't fit the profile of a sex offender??

Also: his mother, Sally Osborne, said she doesn't believe her son did anything to Smith's daughter.

"If he did," she said in her yard across the street from her son and the Smiths, "he was drunk."

She said her son watched Smith's daughter grow up and she has no fear that there would ever be a reoccurrence of the circumstances that led to her son's conviction, if they actually happened at all.

"Everything was going just fine," she said. "I was just shocked. He would never bother them."


Mom denies but then qualifies her denial, weakening it. She knows something is not right with her boy. She knows he's creepy. "Everything was going just fine" meaning he hadn't done anything yet, but the real possibility was there. "Bother" is an unusual word choice when talking about an adult discussing sex with a ten year old. It's a word a parent would use for a small child who was making too much noise and bothering the neighbors. She still sees the son as a child. She is not surprised that he "bothered" someone.

Mom tries to stand up for her son, but fails.
 
2012-09-11 09:20:10 AM  
TFAShe said her son watched Smith's daughter grow up

First thing that came to mind:

Hannibal Lecter: No! He covets. That is his nature. And how do we begin to covet, Clarice? Do we seek out things to covet? Make an effort to answer now.
Clarice Starling: No. We just...
Hannibal Lecter: No. We begin by coveting what we see every day. Don't you feel eyes moving over your body, Clarice? 

Maybe it was the lotion reference... who knows
 
2012-09-11 09:23:19 AM  

cy_co_whore: TFAShe said her son watched Smith's daughter grow up


Yeah, that struck me as icky, too. Not, "We've been neighbors for years," or "we've known her since she was born."

She specifically says that her son watched the girl grow up. Mom's words are saying that she knew there was a problem with her son.
 
2012-09-11 09:48:31 AM  
So, are we ever going to find out her damn bra size or not?!?!
 
2012-09-11 09:53:56 AM  

namegoeshere: Lively said that what Marlowe did was creepy, but she doesn't believe he is a sex offender. He has none of the characteristics that fit the profile of a sex offender, she said.

What part of asking a ten year old to describe her undergarments, lotion up, and sleep with you doesn't fit the profile of a sex offender??

Also: his mother, Sally Osborne, said she doesn't believe her son did anything to Smith's daughter.

"If he did," she said in her yard across the street from her son and the Smiths, "he was drunk."

She said her son watched Smith's daughter grow up and she has no fear that there would ever be a reoccurrence of the circumstances that led to her son's conviction, if they actually happened at all.

"Everything was going just fine," she said. "I was just shocked. He would never bother them."

Mom denies but then qualifies her denial, weakening it. She knows something is not right with her boy. She knows he's creepy. "Everything was going just fine" meaning he hadn't done anything yet, but the real possibility was there. "Bother" is an unusual word choice when talking about an adult discussing sex with a ten year old. It's a word a parent would use for a small child who was making too much noise and bothering the neighbors. She still sees the son as a child. She is not surprised that he "bothered" someone.

Mom tries to stand up for her son, but fails.


I've heard "bother" used to refer to inappropriate sexual advances, by someone who grew up during the Great Depression. It's uncommon to hear it today, but it isn't quite that strange, nor is it indicative of anything else by itself.
Now, her statement that "if he did it, he was drunk" is enlightening.
Put all of mom's statements together, and you get that he does, in fact, go after the little ones when he's drunk. He's done it before. Probably more than just asking bra sizes. But nobody found out, because his victim didn't live right next door.

And another thing: it is common when accused of a crime in such circumstances to accuse the accuser of having an ulterior motive, in order to deflect from the distasteful nature of the crime. "He only accused me of threatening him in such an awful way because he owes me money." It's transparent as hell, of course, and the accused eventually gives themselves away by behaving in the manner of which they were accused.
 
2012-09-11 10:00:24 AM  

stonicus: So, are we ever going to find out her damn bra size or not?!?!


No.
 
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