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(NPR)   Inside the straight-to-DVD world of "mockbusters," which is what SyFy broadcasts when it's not showing wrestling   (npr.org) divider line 41
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2012-09-10 10:31:07 PM
Carnosaur starred Diane Ladd and was released just two weeks before the larger-scale blockbuster Jurassic Park, which featured Ladd's daughter, Laura Dern.

And the funny thing about Carnosaur was that it was a direct plot rip-off of Aliens. Two movies ripped-off for the price of one!
 
2012-09-10 10:48:54 PM
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2012-09-11 01:04:03 AM
Serious questions (kind of): Has anyone seen one of these movies that somehow accidentally turned out to be really good?

Not, "so terrible it's awesome," but actually a really good movie.
 
2012-09-11 01:21:18 AM

Nickster79: Serious questions (kind of): Has anyone seen one of these movies that somehow accidentally turned out to be really good?

Not, "so terrible it's awesome," but actually a really good movie.


Nope. And they're not even Ed Wood good. Or Roger Corman good
Ed Wood made terrible movies, but in his heart, he was making great movies. These Asylum mockbusters are just churned out with no effort at all made to put out something good.
 
2012-09-11 04:30:39 AM
christ, i can write total trash on the cheap for double nickels on the dime.

is it time to break out of my narrow genre with "Fifty Shades of Gay"? A story of lesbian domination. You'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll kiss at least $5 goodbye?
 
2012-09-11 04:42:44 AM
Is this the thread where I confess that I own "Snakes On A Train" on DVD? And have watched it at least 5 times, by choice?

/including directors commentary
//yep. There is one
 
2012-09-11 05:08:32 AM
Renegade came out with Tappy Toes. And Kung Fu Panda was reborn as Chop Kick Panda.

I saw those in K-Mart last week while waiting on my prescriptions. Thought that was the weakest attempt to rip off big money movies that I'd seen in a long time. They were in a 4 pack, though i don't recall what the other 2 movies were.
 
2012-09-11 06:07:58 AM
Syfy also made 500 million last year. They found a business model - mostly involving making shows that people would watch at broadcast time rather than format shift by torrent. They were losing money on Eureka and stuff like SGU (even though those shows rated highly according to TorrentFreak's measure)
 
2012-09-11 06:08:10 AM
SyFy premiered their BATTLESHIP rip-off the Saturday after the movie opened, and they were running
commercials for both the 'original' and the rip-off back-to-back for a while.

It was an indictment of all that is wrong with modern media.

/No longer watches SyFy now that they axed EUREKA
 
2012-09-11 06:52:21 AM
Does SyPhilis have anything worth watching these days? I've heard "Alphas" has gotten better.
 
2012-09-11 06:53:47 AM
I can understand this crap showing up in WalMart bargain bins and even in the darker corners of NetFlix. But what the fark is RedBox thinking? Their single biggest constraint on their business model is the number of physical slots in their machines. Why would they waste any of those precious slots on refuse that nobody rents except by mistake?

/Further proof, if it were needed, that every ecosystem has a bottom feeder
 
2012-09-11 06:57:47 AM
Eh, would Troma under any other name smell as sweet? Even the shiat TV that kids have today is better than what we had.
 
2012-09-11 07:40:51 AM
I rather liked Carnosaur.
As for Troma, I will to my dying breath insist that Tromeo and Juliet a masterpiece. No, I'm not being ironic --it's a crazily funny and at times touching movie.
 
2012-09-11 07:48:30 AM
I miss USA's Up All Night, those were some fantastic Grade B movies.

As for SyFy, Alphas is surprisingly good when you get past the Pilot.
 
2012-09-11 07:51:50 AM
Sure, it's all fun and games until you sit down on a Friday night with a big bowl of popcorn to watch Battle OF Los Angeles on Netflix.
 
2012-09-11 08:23:00 AM

Nickster79: Serious questions (kind of): Has anyone seen one of these movies that somehow accidentally turned out to be really good?

Not, "so terrible it's awesome," but actually a really good movie.


I kinda liked Abraham Lincoln vs. Zombies. And Nazis at the Center of the Earth was gonzo crazy.
 
2012-09-11 09:15:57 AM
a friend once gave me a vhs of "Night of the Twisters", a "Twister" knock-off starring John Schneider of the Dukes of Hazzard.

considering it seemed to have about 1/16 of the fx budget of "Twister", and not as many known movie stars, it was actually enjoyable
 
2012-09-11 09:28:05 AM

DeathByGeekSquad: I miss USA's Up All Night, those were some fantastic Grade B movies.

As for SyFy, Alphas is surprisingly good when you get past the Pilot.


And Warehouse 13 isn't as good as Eureka, but it's still enjoyable enough to follow.
 
2012-09-11 09:44:34 AM
Sharktopus is the greatest Syfy movie of them all. I can't wait for the sequal
 
2012-09-11 09:57:32 AM

AlanSmithee: I rather liked Carnosaur.
As for Troma, I will to my dying breath insist that Tromeo and Juliet a masterpiece. No, I'm not being ironic --it's a crazily funny and at times touching movie.


That movie actually had a fairly artsy (for Troma) part in it as well. In the first concert, the speed freak cousin is moving at normal speed while everyone else is super slowed down
 
2012-09-11 10:00:31 AM

bungle_jr: a friend once gave me a vhs of "Night of the Twisters", a "Twister" knock-off starring John Schneider of the Dukes of Hazzard.

considering it seemed to have about 1/16 of the fx budget of "Twister", and not as many known movie stars, it was actually enjoyable


It's also based on a book I remember reading back in grade school :P.

www.harpercollinschildrens.com

/needs twister on blu-ray...
 
2012-09-11 10:01:27 AM

DeathByGeekSquad: Alphas is surprisingly good


IMO, the best show on Syfy (I feel dirty even typing that word) right now. Granted, that's not saying much.
 
2012-09-11 10:39:10 AM
I hate to admit this, but my wife and I frequently watch these movies. Asylum, Anchor Bay, etc..

Most of them are patently awful, but we like to watch them in MST3K mode... and get lots of laughs poking fun at their gaping plot holes, bad script, etc..

Once in a while, though, we do find one that genuinely surprises us by being kinda good.. although it's rare. Some do the opposite - At least once we were both rendered speechless at the sheer morbid awfulness..

I have even coined a word for some of these movies that are terrible but also terribly entertaining- Awefulsome. Abraham Lincoln vs. Zombies was one such movie, IMHO.

..but I digress.

There is really only one 'cheese' movie worth watching.. when it finally gets released, that is: Ghost Shark 2: Urban Jaws 

/Goddamn Ghost Shark!!!
 
2012-09-11 10:59:43 AM
I realize it's a pointless semantic argument that often falls on deaf ears, but can we retire the term "mockbusters" in favor of the more descriptive "knockbusters"?

"Mockbusters" sounds like a category of parodies of blockbuster films, or perhaps something like Rifftrax.

"Knockbusters", on the other hand, implies what they actually are -- knock-offs of blockbuster films attempting to ride the coattails of familiarity to achieve some level of success.
 
2012-09-11 12:45:40 PM

SockMonkeyHolocaust: Eh, would Troma under any other name smell as sweet? Even the shiat TV that kids have today is better than what we had.


There was actually a lot more creativity in the Troma films than in the Asylum dreck.
 
2012-09-11 12:58:51 PM

propasaurus: Or Roger Corman good


It amazed me when I found out that Corman produces a good amount of the direct to SyFy movies. All of the sharktapus type movies have his name on it.
 
2012-09-11 02:04:56 PM

StrikitRich: [cdn2.holytaco.com image 418x600][cdn2.holytaco.com image 316x450][cdn2.holytaco.com image 316x450]

No comment on movie parodies?


The Scooby Doo parody is freakin' sweet.
 
2012-09-11 02:17:46 PM

Mr. Cat Poop: StrikitRich: [cdn2.holytaco.com image 418x600][cdn2.holytaco.com image 316x450][cdn2.holytaco.com image 316x450]

No comment on movie parodies?

The Scooby Doo parody is freakin' sweet.


Is there a full-length Scooby Doo one? I know the 60s-style Batman and the Star Trek: TNG parodies were unbelievably well done.
 
2012-09-11 04:06:01 PM
Well I, for one, learned from the article that Laura Dern's mom is Dianne Ladd. So there's that!

//new fantasy created
//I'm calling it "The Reese's Cup"
//Two great flavors that go great together!
//"You got Dern in my Ladd"
//"You got Ladd in my Dern"
//"Heeeeyyyy!"
 
2012-09-11 05:33:37 PM
Alphas is great.
I just watched the latest episode about an hour ago. Soo good.
 
2012-09-11 06:57:28 PM

SockMonkeyHolocaust: Eh, would Troma under any other name smell as sweet? Even the shiat TV that kids have today is better than what we had.


Did you know they released a bunch of their stuff on YouTube for free?
 
2012-09-11 07:51:41 PM

Nickster79: Serious questions (kind of): Has anyone seen one of these movies that somehow accidentally turned out to be really good?

Not, "so terrible it's awesome," but actually a really good movie.


Yes. "Eye of the Beast", a giant squid movie with James Van der Beek. Also, "Sharktopus" with Eric Roberts is a thing of beauty.
 
2012-09-11 08:00:18 PM

Galileo's Daughter: Nickster79: Serious questions (kind of): Has anyone seen one of these movies that somehow accidentally turned out to be really good?

Not, "so terrible it's awesome," but actually a really good movie.

Yes. "Eye of the Beast", a giant squid movie with James Van der Beek. Also, "Sharktopus" with Eric Roberts is a thing of beauty.


Anything with Eric Roberts is worth checking out. He seems to be the current cream of the crop for B-movie villain actors.
 
2012-09-11 08:48:19 PM

Nickster79: Serious questions (kind of): Has anyone seen one of these movies that somehow accidentally turned out to be really good?

Not, "so terrible it's awesome," but actually a really good movie.


I don't know if The Objective counts, since it wasn't direct to video (it made $95 its opening weekend), but I thought it was pretty good when I watched it on Netflix.
 
2012-09-12 01:59:39 AM
I watched Battle of Los Angeles, and was surprised that a movie so bad made it to the big screen. The next day I was comparing notes about it with a friend who had watched in the theater, and a few "WTF?"s later and a trip to Wikipedia we figured out that I had not watched Battle: Los Angeles. The bastards.
 
2012-09-12 04:30:10 AM
Whenever I used to see the Transmorphers DVD on the shelf next to Transformers I always pictured some tired mom returning home to her brat after giving into his demands and handing him the Transmorphers DVD. 15 to 20 minutes later he figures out he's been screwed over and tears his poor tired mom a new asshole.
 
2012-09-12 07:46:46 AM

fusillade762: Does SyPhilis have anything worth watching these days? I've heard "Alphas" has gotten better.


Alphas definitely has improved, even though it wasn't that bad to begin with. I'm a little concerned, however, that one of the head guys behind The 4400 is running Alphas now; that show was a steaming pile.

Sigh ... I remember when that channel showed real promise about a decade ago. Sad to see it slip so far.
 
2012-09-12 07:49:23 AM

SirTanon: I hate to admit this, but my wife and I frequently watch these movies. Asylum, Anchor Bay, etc..

Most of them are patently awful, but we like to watch them in MST3K mode... and get lots of laughs poking fun at their gaping plot holes, bad script, etc..

Once in a while, though, we do find one that genuinely surprises us by being kinda good.. although it's rare. Some do the opposite - At least once we were both rendered speechless at the sheer morbid awfulness..

I have even coined a word for some of these movies that are terrible but also terribly entertaining- Awefulsome. Abraham Lincoln vs. Zombies was one such movie, IMHO.

..but I digress.

There is really only one 'cheese' movie worth watching.. when it finally gets released, that is: Ghost Shark 2: Urban Jaws 

/Goddamn Ghost Shark!!!


"Awefulsome" is a great portmanteau; stealing it (but not taking credit).
 
2012-09-12 08:06:05 AM

GeekIsGood: Mr. Cat Poop: StrikitRich: [cdn2.holytaco.com image 418x600][cdn2.holytaco.com image 316x450][cdn2.holytaco.com image 316x450]

No comment on movie parodies?

The Scooby Doo parody is freakin' sweet.

Is there a full-length Scooby Doo one? I know the 60s-style Batman and the Star Trek: TNG parodies were unbelievably well done.


I'm not sure if it's full length, I only caught a few different scenes on youjizz
 
2012-09-12 10:10:42 AM

Lernaeus: fusillade762: Does SyPhilis have anything worth watching these days? I've heard "Alphas" has gotten better.

Alphas definitely has improved, even though it wasn't that bad to begin with. I'm a little concerned, however, that one of the head guys behind The 4400 is running Alphas now; that show was a steaming pile.

Sigh ... I remember when that channel showed real promise about a decade ago. Sad to see it slip so far.


I loved The 4400 initially. It got worse as it went along, and every year it seemed like it was going to be cancelled. Then it finally was cancelled and didn't do anything to wrap up the big plot it had created.
 
2012-09-14 02:44:38 AM

Sick and Tired of Being Sick and Tired: DeathByGeekSquad: Alphas is surprisingly good

IMO, the best show on Syfy (I feel dirty even typing that word) right now. Granted, that's not saying much.


I generally cheat and say 'TV Series on Netflix', but this is a Syfy thread.
 
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