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(Politico)   After bear-hugging the president, pizza parlor owner sees an uptick in business following the exposure and... just kidding. The teahadis are boycotting his store   (politico.com) divider line 406
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2012-09-11 12:47:52 AM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: rewind2846: MyRandomName: Demetrius: Way to support small business.

Stay classy, GOP.

LOL. Liberals boycott Rush, any business that advertises on Rush, Komen Foundation, etc... They are the heroes of the liberal world.

Some conservatives boycott.. "stay classy." What intellectually inconsistent shiatheads the fark liberal elite are.

"Liberals" boycott organizations and people who do and say assholey things.

Eye of the beholder



/The Susan G.Komen was libs eating their own.
//Don't take away someone's right to boycott, or devalue it
///Just countervote with your pocketbook


Komen was assholish by trying to dictate what parts of women's health they would and would not support.

Rush called a woman a slut repeatedly because, at 58 years old and having been married 4 times, this supposedly straight man still has no idea how birth control pills work.

So, in your drive to build up an equivalency, what was the assholish thing the pizza guy did?

Being nice to the president of the United farking States?
 
2012-09-11 12:49:03 AM  
The GOP's Big Tent is so exclusive that a Republican can't get in.
 
2012-09-11 12:49:50 AM  
tenpoundsofcheese


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2012-09-11 12:37:01 AM

jpo2269: tenpoundsofcheese


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2012-09-11 12:19:43 AM

jpo2269: While this guy is no hero like Nguyen Ngoc Loan, he has every right to advocate for President Obama without have the lessor of us trying to boycott his pizza shop.

That really is a silly argument. Of course he has the right to say what he wants.

But he isn't entitled to have the business he has - he has to earn it. If you say something that annoys part of your customer base, there may be a consequence of doing that.

No different than a guy in Boston talking about how much he supports the Yankees. He may make a great pizza, but he shouldn't be surprised if he doesn't have a lot of people ordering from him when the Yankees face the Sox.

While I do not disagree with what you are saying, I would argue there is a world of difference between someone advocating for someone/something in which we might not agree vs. advocating against what we support

I don't get it why you think there is a real distinction there.
Using my example:
1I advocate that the Yankees should win the world series (something in which we might not agree).
2. I advocate that the Yankees should beat the Sox in the world series (advocating against your support of the Sox)

Pizza guy wants 0bama to win.
People who don't want to buy his pizza want Romney to win.


You don't see the difference between someone saying "I like person x" and "person y is a meanie poopie head and anyone whom supports that meanie poopie head is obviously a retard?"

I have unfortunately lived my life as an Orioles fan, I am rooting for the Orioles in this race for first place, however, I do not hate the Yankees or their fans and would not boycott a Yankee friendly pub or restaurant.
 
2012-09-11 12:50:58 AM  

fqhollis: The GOP's Big Tent is so exclusive that a Republican can't get in.


I think it's time for rebranding. It's more like the GOP's Big Taint.
 
2012-09-11 12:55:12 AM  

StewPie: fqhollis: The GOP's Big Tent is so exclusive that a Republican can't get in.

I think it's time for rebranding. It's more like the GOP's Big Taint.


A message that has been sewn onto every pair of underwear Chris Christie has ever owned.
 
2012-09-11 12:55:51 AM  

jpo2269: I have unfortunately lived my life as an Orioles fan, I am rooting for the Orioles in this race for first place, however, I do not hate the Yankees or their fans and would not boycott a Yankee friendly pub or restaurant.


if you ever went to Dorian's on the Upper East Side you would. Wanker central
 
2012-09-11 12:57:05 AM  
The tea party is run by people that otherwise would not have a job. Hate mongering, ignorant, lazy, stupid, uneducated bastards that make a living lying, destroying lives, and breeding more of the previously mention qualities in others.
 
2012-09-11 12:57:08 AM  
Muscles don't equal Brains

I am a restaurant vendor, the smartest owners shy away from political publicity unless they have have a real "bone to pick" with the other party.

I've heard stories of local political guy asking to have an event at given establishment and the smart owner says "no, i'd rather not be a part of that". Yes, he's walking away from easy business, but he's not aligning himself with and BS as well
 
2012-09-11 12:57:23 AM  

rosebud_the_sled: That being said, the teabagger response to some guy showing his affection for the president of the US just shows how un-American they are. Courting treason in fact. But then, what else would anyone expect from some idiotic teabagger?


courting treason...
 
2012-09-11 12:59:51 AM  

jpo2269: I don't get it why you think there is a real distinction there.
Using my example:
1I advocate that the Yankees should win the world series (something in which we might not agree).
2. I advocate that the Yankees should beat the Sox in the world series (advocating against your support of the Sox)

Pizza guy wants 0bama to win.
People who don't want to buy his pizza want Romney to win.

You don't see the difference between someone saying "I like person x" and "person y is a meanie poopie head and anyone whom supports that meanie poopie head is obviously a retard?"
strawman. no one said that.

I have unfortunately lived my life as an Orioles fan, I am rooting for the Orioles in this race for first place, however, I do not hate the Yankees or their fans and would not boycott a Yankee friendly pub or restaurant.

would you go to one when the Orioles are playing the Yankees?

 
2012-09-11 01:03:31 AM  

Salt Lick Steady: zipdog: The difference between the CFA boycotts and the boycotts against this guy's pizza place is that the CFA boycotts actually happened. The pizza guy only said he was hoping nobody boycotted his restaurants. I do have to say though that subby gets an 11/10 on a trolling headline, and he should be legitimately proud of that here on fark.

"People are saying a lot of bad things and boycotting my restaurant," Scott Van Duzer, 46, told POLITICO. "

Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it?


just curious, how does he know people are boycotting his restaurant? That it actually had an effect on his business?
a sharp drop off in business on Monday morning and Monday afternoon after the Sunday event?

The guy is great at PR. Brilliant move.
 
2012-09-11 01:04:55 AM  

pippi longstocking: The tea party is run by people that otherwise would not have a job. Hate mongering, ignorant, lazy, stupid, uneducated bastards that make a living lying, destroying lives, and breeding more of the previously mention qualities in others.


Yeah, hate mongers are bad.
Are you a Tea Party member?
 
2012-09-11 01:06:50 AM  
I'm getting here late, but I really hope people either celebrate this establishment or boycott it. Let the people speak. If you want to hug the president and love him then great.

Hey, if the pizza is good I don't care if it's made by a crew of TERRORISTS/NAZIS/COMMUNISTS, I just like good pizza.

If you're dumb enough to involve your business with politics, then make stand
 
2012-09-11 01:08:02 AM  
And Obama supporters are always complaining about how conservatives have a "victim complex"?? LOLOL
 
2012-09-11 01:09:18 AM  

timujin: tenpoundsofcheese: jpo2269: While this guy is no hero like Nguyen Ngoc Loan, he has every right to advocate for President Obama without have the lessor of us trying to boycott his pizza shop.

That really is a silly argument. Of course he has the right to say what he wants.

But he isn't entitled to have the business he has - he has to earn it. If you say something that annoys part of your customer base, there may be a consequence of doing that.

These people aren't "part of his customer base," they state in their reviews that they've never eaten at his restaurant. They don't even live in the same state.

No different than a guy in Boston talking about how much he supports the Yankees. He may make a great pizza, but he shouldn't be surprised if he doesn't have a lot of people ordering from him when the Yankees face the Sox.

These people aren't boycotting him, they're leaving false negative reviews for his business. It's not the same and you're being disingenuous by trying to pretend it is.


I was referring to his comment that he is being boycotted (bolded above), please try to follow along.
So you are saying he lied when he said people were boycotting his business?
 
2012-09-11 01:10:15 AM  

WaffleStomper: And Obama supporters are always complaining about how conservatives have a "victim complex"?? LOLOL


Direct your attention 2 threads down and you have Princess Pranceyhorse asking everyone to weave wittle Mittens awone.

Your move, homeschool.
 
2012-09-11 01:10:28 AM  
Look at the right wingers in this thread.....so funny. They actually think they have a chance. Good luck you farking cocks.
 
2012-09-11 01:12:10 AM  
Problem: Bring a voter who was a Republican until the party went full derp back to the fold.

Solution: Boycott his business because Obama went there!
 
2012-09-11 01:12:37 AM  
DNRTFT.

Besides this guy saying it, what evidence is there that there is a 'boycott'?
 
2012-09-11 01:13:49 AM  

skygod: Look at the right wingers in this thread.....so funny. They actually think they have a chance. Good luck you farking cocks.


Nah, most right wingers know that we will have another 4 years of high unemployment, yearly trillion dollar deficits, declining job growth, rising gas prices and rising health care costs.
 
2012-09-11 01:15:14 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Salt Lick Steady: zipdog: The difference between the CFA boycotts and the boycotts against this guy's pizza place is that the CFA boycotts actually happened. The pizza guy only said he was hoping nobody boycotted his restaurants. I do have to say though that subby gets an 11/10 on a trolling headline, and he should be legitimately proud of that here on fark.

"People are saying a lot of bad things and boycotting my restaurant," Scott Van Duzer, 46, told POLITICO. "

Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it?

just curious, how does he know people are boycotting his restaurant? That it actually had an effect on his business?
a sharp drop off in business on Monday morning and Monday afternoon after the Sunday event?

The guy is great at PR. Brilliant move.


So you agree that Chick Fil'A was a PR stunt?
 
2012-09-11 01:15:36 AM  

BojanglesPaladin: DNRTFT.

Besides this guy saying it, what evidence is there that there is a 'boycott'?


None.
Brilliant PR move. Got 1800 "reviews" on yelp with a 5 star rating overall, and will have a line of libs outside his door tomorrow giving him money.

Probably will need to hire a couple people to keep up with demand.
 
2012-09-11 01:16:49 AM  

AirForceVet: Fark the teabaggers. Next time I'm in Florida, I'll swing over to Ft. Pierce and have one of his pizzas.


For every pizza you eat I won't eat two!
 
2012-09-11 01:18:34 AM  
Troll thread! Why can't we all just get along? Because, we're trolls, silly.
 
2012-09-11 01:20:15 AM  
FTFA "There's no middle line anymore, and that's exactly what's wrong with our country right now."

Nice try libs, there is a middle, and it's the Republican party, if you ain't republican you ain't middle which makes you a dirty lib socialist commie nazi
 
2012-09-11 01:21:04 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Krymson Tyde: Republicans are assholes.

This pizza person is a republican

People like you who make statements like that are the problem. You aren't helping


I modified my statement to "Most republicans are assholes." Care to guess which part of the republican party I classify you with?
 
2012-09-11 01:21:29 AM  
I moved to Tennessee from the Fort Pierce area. Tomorrow I will order a large pizza from this fine establishment and have it delivered to a random address courtesy of President Obama. fark the GOP.
 
2012-09-11 01:24:04 AM  

Serious Black: PresiDebt Taxbongo HUSSEIN ObaMao Zedong al-Chicago.


That is the best Fark login that never existed. I wish i thought of it so i could make it my login.

/even though my login is stolen
 
2012-09-11 01:24:50 AM  
The Pres should make this guy the Minister of Pizza just to rub salt in Rock Me Like a Herman Cain's wounds. A Pizz-czar, if you will
 
2012-09-11 01:26:50 AM  

someonelse: tony41454: (he was a guest at the White House earlier today


Hold up. Is there a cite for that?
 
2012-09-11 01:26:59 AM  

AirForceVet: FTA:
"People are saying a lot of bad things and boycotting my restaurant," Scott Van Duzer, 46, told POLITICO. "There's no middle line anymore, and that's exactly what's wrong with our country right now."

How sad. How true.

Fark the teabaggers. Next time I'm in Florida, I'll swing over to Ft. Pierce and have one of his pizzas.


I recon that depends on where you draw the line.

Oh, while we're farking people and their ideas, Fark the libtards. I'll make sure to go to his competitor's pizza joint in Ft. Pierce next week while I'm there to have one of their politically non-denominational pizzas.
 
2012-09-11 01:26:59 AM  

Krymson Tyde: tenpoundsofcheese: Krymson Tyde: Republicans are assholes.

This pizza person is a republican

People like you who make statements like that are the problem. You aren't helping

I modified my statement to "Most republicans are assholes." Care to guess which part of the republican party I classify you with?


You don't seem to be the type of person who would correct their statements based on a a comment from an asshole.
so since you took my feedback and corrected your statement, and since I am not a republican, I guess that you didn't classify me at all.
 
2012-09-11 01:27:41 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: timujin: tenpoundsofcheese: jpo2269: While this guy is no hero like Nguyen Ngoc Loan, he has every right to advocate for President Obama without have the lessor of us trying to boycott his pizza shop.

That really is a silly argument. Of course he has the right to say what he wants.

But he isn't entitled to have the business he has - he has to earn it. If you say something that annoys part of your customer base, there may be a consequence of doing that.

These people aren't "part of his customer base," they state in their reviews that they've never eaten at his restaurant. They don't even live in the same state.

No different than a guy in Boston talking about how much he supports the Yankees. He may make a great pizza, but he shouldn't be surprised if he doesn't have a lot of people ordering from him when the Yankees face the Sox.

These people aren't boycotting him, they're leaving false negative reviews for his business. It's not the same and you're being disingenuous by trying to pretend it is.

I was referring to his comment that he is being boycotted (bolded above), please try to follow along.
So you are saying he lied when he said people were boycotting his business?


The original point of this thread and the point of the article, is that people are leaving fake reviews on his Yelp page, people who are admitting they've never eaten there and wouldn't because he's a "traitor" or whatever other crazy spews from their malformed brains.

But you're right, you weren't the one who brought it up, I conflated your comment with that of others here who are putting up the "boycott" strawman. Now, there are those who have said it's a shiatty thing to boycott a guy who does as much for his community as this man does, but no one has argued against their right to do so. The real problem is as I outlined above, leaving false criticisms of his establishment simply because they don't agree with his politics.

All that being said, your second comment is still one of the most pants-on-head retarded in the thread:

The guy made an unwanted physical advance on the President of the United States. Not good.

Unwanted? It was cleared with the Secret Service beforehand. Do you really think some guy just walks up and lifts the President up in the air without clearance?
 
2012-09-11 01:28:45 AM  

Bloody William: shotglasss: pciszek: unlikely: Pokey.Clyde: Teahadis? Really? God, you came from the shallow end of the gene pool, didn't you subby?

It's a fairly standard synonym for the American Taliban. I'm surprised you hadn't heard it.

I still prefer "teabaggers", since that's what they called themselves until someone told them what it meant.

You are either stupid or lying. The f-tards on MSNBC started that.

Wrong.

Or to quote National Review Online:

They asked people to send a tea bag to the Oval Office. One of the exhortations was "Tea Bag the Fools in D.C." A protester was spotted with a sign saying, "Tea Bag the Liberal Dems Before They Tea Bag You." So, conservatives started it: started with this terminology. But others ran with it and ran with it.

If conservatives had any balls, they'd take their licks and swallow the fact that they teabagged first.


Bloody William (can I call you "BW"?), I'll see those two links of yours and raise you this one.

This is the actual Freeper thread in which the Tea Party first organized online, a full week before the earliest event listed in the timeline in The Week's blog article that you linked to!

Note that they come up with the name "Operation Tea Bag" in the subject of the thread. The very Weeners was one of their own suggesting that they pick a different name! Several others who also knew of the innuendo meaning of "teabag" also warned them to change the name. But, the majority, even after having that meaning explained to them, continued to push for keeping the name, on the grounds that the innuendo would obviously be applied to their enemies,, not themselves!

Read the whole thread. It's not all that long (all of one page and only a dozen posts on a second page).

This is where it really started, and this is why it's sweet, sweet Karma to call them that.
 
2012-09-11 01:29:50 AM  
Chicagoan goes and has pizza in FARKING FLORIDA. I think that tells you all you need to know about the deep dish vs good, actual pizza debate.
 
2012-09-11 01:31:17 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: BojanglesPaladin: DNRTFT.

Besides this guy saying it, what evidence is there that there is a 'boycott'?

None.
Brilliant PR move. Got 1800 "reviews" on yelp with a 5 star rating overall, and will have a line of libs outside his door tomorrow giving him money.

Probably will need to hire a couple people to keep up with demand.


Seriously. None? Anyone here able to point to a boycott and not just people outraged at vapor ware boycott?

And, hey! If the guy has to hire additional staff, then Obama IS creating jobs! Only 800,000 more pizza joints to go...
 
2012-09-11 01:34:57 AM  

timujin: s'okay, it looks like it has backfired, he currently has five stars on Yelp. 

There are only three one-star reviews and one of them says this:

The crust was terrible on this pizza! way too chewy and too much salt in the sauce. Gimme Papa John's ANYDAY

So at least they let us know they're an idiot.


That won't last too long. If he's not paying Yelp their "tribute", they'll hide all those good reviews, and just post the bad ones, with all the stars he earned with the good reviews moved to the "don't count" column. If he wants the good reviews back on the front page, all he has to do is sign up for one of Yelps advertising packages.
 
2012-09-11 01:35:14 AM  
TPers are shameless thugs.
 
2012-09-11 01:38:13 AM  

timujin: The original point of this thread and the point of the article, is that people are leaving fake reviews on his Yelp page,

No. There was nothing in the article about Yelp. He said he was being boycotted.

But you're right, you weren't the one who brought it up, I conflated your comment with that of others here who are putting up the "boycott" strawman.

You mean like the headline for this thread which was about the Tea Party boycotting him based on his his comment in the article about him being boycotted? That strawman?

The real problem is as I outlined above, leaving false criticisms of his establishment simply because they don't agree with his politics.
Then start a thread about people doing that in yelp. (use the submit a link button). Don't threadjack. This thread was about his being boycotted (hint: it is what the headline said and what was said in the article. NO mention of yelp and people leaving false criticisms in either the headline or TFA).


Unwanted? It was cleared with the Secret Service beforehand.

Do you have a citation that this was cleared ahead of time? I thought he was cleared for the meet and greet and the handshake and this was a spontaneous display.

 
2012-09-11 01:41:59 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Krymson Tyde: tenpoundsofcheese: Krymson Tyde: Republicans are assholes.

This pizza person is a republican

People like you who make statements like that are the problem. You aren't helping

I modified my statement to "Most republicans are assholes." Care to guess which part of the republican party I classify you with?

You don't seem to be the type of person who would correct their statements based on a a comment from an asshole.
so since you took my feedback and corrected your statement, and since I am not a republican, I guess that you didn't classify me at all.


I never said you are an asshole. Why do you insist on lying about things I said?
 
2012-09-11 01:42:24 AM  

skullkrusher: Chicagoan goes and has pizza in FARKING FLORIDA. I think that tells you all you need to know about the deep dish vs good, actual pizza debate.


I don't know if I'd go that far, but it does bother me that with deep-dish pizza, you can't always see what's inside it. It might look like an innocent piece of cheese pizza, but then I bite into it and discover that there were anchovies hiding below the surface.

/pizza > politics
 
2012-09-11 01:43:43 AM  

rudemix: Because hating and ruining this guys business has everything to do with the election? Absolute proof that this is a group of hateful people that really have no plan or organizaed approach to anything. They are like rats in a trap snapping at everything that gets close as they see the Amurca the know and love (that never existed) being hauled down and replaced by everything they hate (that also never existed).

These are people that have been spoonfed all their lives. Sadly the pablum turned from anything nurturing to hate and bile somewhere about the time douche-bags like Rush and the like gained some traction.


The internet happened. Instant information wherever you are.
 
2012-09-11 01:48:21 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: rewind2846: Orange-Pippin: The restaurant is right next to a college. Good luck with boycotting that "small business supporters."

The college kids are probably going to make this place their number one off-campus restaurant this semester, if they're anything like the kids I went to school with this past year, especially now with all this national attention.


The guy is a republican. He knows how to run a business, generate PR, and get libs to give him money.

You've been trolled by him.


Yeah, I love the stupid libs donating to a charity brought to national attention by Obama. Those Republicans sure pulled a fast one.
 
2012-09-11 01:49:04 AM  
OK. No evidence of a boycott and no mention of the tea party.

HUNDREDS of dutiful outrage posts railing dutifully full of hate against 'teh othah side' with only a perceived offense.

This is getting beyond stupid. It's just downright boring.

I loathe the teabaggers as much as the next guy, but I don't have time for this level of full-on blind binary politico derpfest.
 
2012-09-11 01:50:59 AM  

MyRandomName: Demetrius: Way to support small business.

Stay classy, GOP.

LOL. Liberals boycott Rush, any business that advertises on Rush, Komen Foundation, etc... They are the heroes of the liberal world.

Some conservatives boycott.. "stay classy." What intellectually inconsistent shiatheads the fark liberal elite are.


You mean boycotting people who call women "sluts" or stop funding for breast cancer is the same as boycotting someone for giving Obama a hug?

You don't see the difference in that?
 
2012-09-11 01:51:27 AM  

Krymson Tyde: tenpoundsofcheese: Krymson Tyde: tenpoundsofcheese: Krymson Tyde: Republicans are assholes.

This pizza person is a republican

People like you who make statements like that are the problem. You aren't helping

I modified my statement to "Most republicans are assholes." Care to guess which part of the republican party I classify you with?

You don't seem to be the type of person who would correct their statements based on a a comment from an asshole.
so since you took my feedback and corrected your statement, and since I am not a republican, I guess that you didn't classify me at all.

I never said you are an asshole. Why do you insist on lying about things I said?


I never said that you said that. I said just the opposite.

You asked me which group you classified me with and I said that since you are not the type of person who would correct themselves based on feedback from an asshole, that you didn't classify me at all.
 
2012-09-11 01:58:30 AM  

Corvus: You mean boycotting people who call women "sluts"


Do you boycott everyone who has referred to a women as a slut?
(if so, I would expect your ignore list to be really big)
 
2012-09-11 01:59:36 AM  

skullkrusher: rosebud_


Why not? It's a skosh better than molesting children.
 
2012-09-11 02:02:22 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Corvus: You mean boycotting people who call women "sluts"

Do you boycott everyone who has referred to a women as a slut?
(if so, I would expect your ignore list to be really big)


Do they have radio shows calling them sluts because they only disagree with their political views? Yes.

I don't know the people you hang out with, but the people I hang out with don't call women sluts.
 
2012-09-11 02:03:17 AM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Meanwhile..... boycotts were called, by liberals, against the dude in Pennsylvania who put the English only sign on his storefront. It's all well and good to call for boycotts, but it's disingenuous to act surprised when the other side also employs boycotts.

A boycott is a boycott, and everybody has the right to ask for one.
Just as everyone has the right to either assist the boycott or ignore the boycott.

All this 'we would never do that!' from liberals is moronic. the homeless dude in OC has a point.

Just support Van Duzer if you want to show him support, and don't get tied up in knots if others disagree with you. Same diff with the Chick-Fil-A shiat. Support Chick-Fil-A, and don't pitch a biatch if others disagree with you.


You don't see a difference between one owner receiving backlash for expressing bigotry, and another owner receiving backlash for hugging the President?

You really are a Republican.
 
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