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2012-09-10 10:36:24 PM  

shotglasss: Fart_Machine: shotglasss: OTOH, I can't blame anyone who's boycotting him for his political stance.

What political stance, hugging the President?

shotglasss: We saw 1000 threads on Fark a month ago against CFA for a political stance by the owner, so it's fair game to reverse it.

So where does this guy donate millions to gay hate groups again?

His political stance is being an Obama supporter and voter. Sorry, but that's the blood sport politics has become these days. Thank a Democrat for that.

Which gay hate groups are you talking about?


Focus on the Family, Family Research Council, and Exodus International. All groups that are directly antagonistic towards homosexuals.
 
2012-09-10 10:38:33 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: deadcrickets: tenpoundsofcheese: deadcrickets: tenpoundsofcheese: deadcrickets: So much for the Tea Party stating they believe in a Free Market and Free Speech.

So much for people accusing the Tea Party of something that there is no evidence of them doing.

Chik Fil'A

I was referring to the subby who claimed that it was the Tea Party who was boycotting the Pizza Guy.

Tea Party is the GOP. GOP is the Tea Party.

Okay, if that is your view, well that explains a lot then.

Where in the article does it say the GOP is boycotting him?

Was it the GOP that protested 0bama at the Convention? Is the GOP now Code Pink and OWS?


FOX News talked about it. And you seem to be missing your talking points. Go visit sites like Hot Air where they openly talk about boycotting the place in the comments

But don't worry, I'm sure it's not organized:

"And on Monday, Van Duzer found that the Yelp profile page for his pizza place was inundated with hundreds of reviews, "making it perhaps the most politically charged pizza review board around," according to the New York Times."
 
2012-09-10 10:38:52 PM  

starsrift: tenpoundsofcheese: starsrift: I'm not sure I remember elections being this awful. Punish a small business owner and altruist because of who he's gonna vote for? How did we get here?

Meh. If you run a pizza parlor in NYC and you talk about how much you like the Red Sox, don't be surprised if your business drops off a bit.

Perhaps the comparison of the crazy zealotry of sports fans who don't stop to form a logical or congenial thought to far right-wing political partisans is not an inaccurate one.


Also, New York has tons of sports bars and other places popular outside of the Yankees/Mets/Jets/Giants crowd. Professor Thom's on 2nd avenue is a popular Red Sox bar.

I mean, it's not like we're Boston. A Yankees bar there would get burned down. farking savages and their delicious chowder.
 
2012-09-10 10:40:14 PM  

starsrift: tenpoundsofcheese: starsrift: I'm not sure I remember elections being this awful. Punish a small business owner and altruist because of who he's gonna vote for? How did we get here?

Meh. If you run a pizza parlor in NYC and you talk about how much you like the Red Sox, don't be surprised if your business drops off a bit.

Perhaps the comparison of the crazy zealotry of sports fans who don't stop to form a logical or congenial thought to far right-wing or far left-wingpolitical partisans is not an inaccurate one.


ftfy.
 
2012-09-10 10:41:45 PM  
Nothing like a Fark hypocrisy party! CHIC-FIL-A!!!!!! You hypocrites wanted to boycott a company just because its owner stood up for morality. NOW you're saying it's NOT okay to boycott this RHINO (he was a guest at the White House earlier this year) for HIS policies. Fark off, hypocrites. I say boycott him. And I wouldn't be talking so loud about "right-wing political partisans" if I were you, because the left-wing PPs are all over the place here.

How can you people even sleep at night? Good grief, liberalism is rightly called a mental disorder.
 
2012-09-10 10:41:46 PM  
Okay, dickheads across the nation can say bad things online.

It's a beach side food place and the beginning of September. If his sales take a dive what are the odds that the customers have gone back to school.
 
2012-09-10 10:44:25 PM  

Bloody William: shotglasss: Fart_Machine: shotglasss: OTOH, I can't blame anyone who's boycotting him for his political stance.

What political stance, hugging the President?

shotglasss: We saw 1000 threads on Fark a month ago against CFA for a political stance by the owner, so it's fair game to reverse it.

So where does this guy donate millions to gay hate groups again?

His political stance is being an Obama supporter and voter. Sorry, but that's the blood sport politics has become these days. Thank a Democrat for that.

Which gay hate groups are you talking about?

Focus on the Family, Family Research Council, and Exodus International. All groups that are directly antagonistic towards homosexuals.


Antagonism based on religion. That's what you're going with? I thought we were talking about hate here. You know, burning buildings and other property...shooting and maiming, sometimes killing...those are hateful acts, not spoken disagreements. Can you show me where Cathy has advocated for hate against ANYONE? Or are your simplistic definitions and strawman arguments all you have to go on?
 
2012-09-10 10:44:38 PM  

gameshowhost: Blues_X: Eat a giant bag of dicks, you inbred goat farkers.

+1


+1. Would read again.
 
2012-09-10 10:45:30 PM  

deadcrickets: Go visit sites like Hot Air where they openly talk about boycotting the place in the comments

OMG. In the comments! Well we all know that the GOP controls all the commenting sites out there. Great catch

But don't worry, I'm sure it's not organized:
I agree. Grass roots, how does it work. If a pizza parlor owner in Boston had a news story about how much he likes the Yankees, I bet he would get a lot of comments too....without it being organized by the Red Sox franchise.

"And on Monday, Van Duzer found that the Yelp profile page for his pizza place was inundated with hundreds of reviews, "making it perhaps the most politically charged pizza review board around," according to the New York Times."

Hundreds?! OMG. That sounds like the work of the Koch Brothers and the Trilateral Commission. Quick, more tinfoil!!

 
2012-09-10 10:47:08 PM  
The Hugger?

thr1.pgmcdn.net
 
2012-09-10 10:48:29 PM  
shotglasss: I thought we were talking about hate here. You know, burning buildings and other property...shooting and maiming, sometimes killing...

you make it so easy to argue with yourself
 
2012-09-10 10:48:54 PM  

Blues_X: Eat a giant bag of dicks, you inbred goat farkers.

I think this sums up the way most of us feel. Quite nicely, in fact.
 
2012-09-10 10:49:14 PM  
Igor Jakovsky: Lernaeus: Demetrius: Way to support small business.

Stay classy, GOP.

Having a politician in your place of business for a photo op is really damn stupid.

Unless your employees and patrons are really damn stupid, then by all means, show the world how stupid you are by getting photographed with a politician.

Anyone that thinks that makes them look better needs their head checked (I wonder, is that covered by the PPACA?).

Well to be fair to Scott, he did only have an hour and a half of advance notice. Obama knew he was going to show up but Scott didn't. He was on the driving range when he got the call. Who would farkin turn down a visit from the President anyway? Its not like he lobbied Obama to come get some takeout pizza. If he had turned him down it would have made him look like an arse.


Timmy Thomas. Made something about his team selfishly about himself.

Dude is whacked in the head though. He's been pulling stunts ever since and pissing off even the small number of conservatives in this state.
 
2012-09-10 10:51:34 PM  

Bloody William: boycotting a restaurant because... the owner said he would vote the other way just seems petty.


Yes, yes it is. Have you met people, in particular members of the Tea Party? Those people are offended because President Obama suggested each small business in isolation was not responsible for all of the roads and bridges of this country. This seems more logical by compare.
 
2012-09-10 10:52:11 PM  
tenpoundsofcheese sounds tired
 
2012-09-10 10:53:22 PM  

shotglasss: Antagonism based on religion. That's what you're going with?


Oddly enough even though In N Out is run by an evangelical, they don't feel the need to donate to anti-gay groups. How about that?

shotglasss: His political stance is being an Obama supporter and voter. Sorry, but that's the blood sport politics has become these days. Thank a Democrat for that.


Um, Obama paid the guy a visit because of his foundation that raises awareness for blood shortages. Damn that Fartbongo, he's so divisive!
 
2012-09-10 10:54:05 PM  

alienated: Dancin_In_Anson: You would lock people up for not going to a pizza parlor. You are one farked up individual.

You failed at reading what he/she said, didnt you ?

They're utterly terrible people who are doing everything they can to drive this country into ruin. I almost wish we really did have FEMA camps, so these people could stop ruining us. 

I see no mention of pizza. ....


Why, it's almost as though republicans aren't above a little dishonesty.
 
2012-09-10 10:54:38 PM  

tony41454: Nothing like a Fark hypocrisy party! CHIC-FIL-A!!!!!! You hypocrites wanted to boycott a company just because its owner stood up for morality. NOW you're saying it's NOT okay to boycott this RHINO (he was a guest at the White House earlier this year) for HIS policies. Fark off, hypocrites. I say boycott him. And I wouldn't be talking so loud about "right-wing political partisans" if I were you, because the left-wing PPs are all over the place here.

How can you people even sleep at night? Good grief, liberalism is rightly called a mental disorder.


Bloody William's repetition of Lando Lincoln's comment aside, the real false equivalency is this: The Chik Fil A owner was putting money from his profits to fund those causes that the boycotters were against, making customers indirect supporters of the owner's causes. The more nebulous "I wanna elect this guy" and "I want this specific policy enacted" false equivalency aside, this pizza parlor dude is putting his profits towards blood donations and local victims of hardship, making his customers indirect supporters of aid for people who need help.

The tertiary false equivalence is that, of course, of a small business versus a large one in several states. Many large fast food chains have boycotts levied against them, usually by left extremists. Animal cruelty folks, environment folks, the list goes on. Because of their size and ubiquitous nature, they don't notice the loss in business. A small local business that may lose 30%(to pull a number out of the air based on the idea that Florida is a swing state and not all right-wingers are this extremist) of its customers, he'd notice that.
 
2012-09-10 10:56:14 PM  

tony41454: Nothing like a Fark hypocrisy party! CHIC-FIL-A!!!!!! You hypocrites wanted to boycott a company just because its owner stood up for morality. NOW you're saying it's NOT okay to boycott this RHINO (he was a guest at the White House earlier this year) for HIS policies. Fark off, hypocrites. I say boycott him. And I wouldn't be talking so loud about "right-wing political partisans" if I were you, because the left-wing PPs are all over the place here.

How can you people even sleep at night? Good grief, liberalism is rightly called a mental disorder.


LOUD NOISES!!!
 
2012-09-10 10:58:47 PM  

Bloody William: Vangor: A. Snatchfold: Significant issues like hugging the president?

Support for a President would be a significant issue. As said, boycotting this is ridiculous, but this isn't because he hugged the President; this is because he has explicitly said he would vote for President Obama.

Really? Just... voting is enough now? It's your right to boycott that just as it's your right to boycott anything, but unlike boycotting a chain of restaurants where the head vocally advocated a policy that limits the rights of my friends and loved ones, boycotting a restaurant because... the owner said he would vote the other way just seems petty.


Right wingers are not known for understanding any type or level of context. Group X does Y, so Y can do X. They see eveything in the barest of arguments that will help them continue the 'Us vs them' mentality, keeping everything balanced. Democrats respond to something? Well then so can WE! However, they never fully explore WHY things occur and instead just run with it because the other side did something.

They never do apples to oranges comparisons. Hell, they are incapable to do apples to rocket launchers comparisons. They see both items as tangible objects that people can physically hold, so both situations must be EXACTLT the same in every single aspect no matter what. Because democrats boycotted a store, so will they. However, all they can wrap their minds around is the idea that democrats only boycotted because of party affliation. 'You hate them because they are republican!' "no, I'm boycotting because they send money to damage the rights of others.' 'He likes Obama, I'm going to boycott him!!' They don't even wait to see why he likes Obama. Just liking him is enough to warrent a boycott.

They do it all the time with their attacks. Any side not them will point how someone on their side said something wrong, lying or vile and respond with a criticism to it. All they see is that someone said negative about someone on their side, so they respond with either equal or worst levels of verbal retaliation on ANYONE on the other side. Democrats say that this senator is wrong because he see gays to be evil and inhuman? Well, right wingers will counter by saying that this democrat who mentions that people should grow their own garden is a lazy fat evil biatch. Its similar to how every time an actual politician will say something bad, they dig up some random blogger saying something bad (but not at the same levels of bad) are exactly the same, so excuse our side.

they never see why a republican got a negative reponse, just that the republican got a negative reponse, so all they focus on is turnabout is fair play. However, they never remotely even come close to something on the other side that can justify their "both sides are bad' mentality.
 
2012-09-10 10:59:04 PM  
This borders on the sort of "I heard he's an Arab" crazycakes stuff that turned voters off McCain/Palin by association.
 
2012-09-10 11:00:37 PM  

starsrift: Bloody William's repetition of Lando Lincoln's comment aside, the real false equivalency is this: The Chik Fil A owner was putting money from his profits to fund those causes that the boycotters were against, making customers indirect supporters of the owner's causes.


The pizza guy voted for a guy who was against gay marriage.
The chick guy is against gay marriage.
 
2012-09-10 11:00:50 PM  

Bloody William: Focus on the Family, Family Research Council, and Exodus International. All groups that are directly antagonistic towards homosexuals.


Also as for Chik-Fil-A their own business practices are deplorable. As is their attitude, take people and convince them a lifetime of bad wages is a good career.
 
2012-09-10 11:01:39 PM  
If you don't want your business to be treated based upon your politics as an owner, don't make public appearances and open your yap about political activities. No one would have cared if he were just a face in the crowd at a rally; but, he chose to make a scene in his restaurant. Can't say he should really feel surprised that Republicans would act like the petty children they are...
 
2012-09-10 11:02:21 PM  

WhyteRaven74: Bloody William: Focus on the Family, Family Research Council, and Exodus International. All groups that are directly antagonistic towards homosexuals.

Also as for Chik-Fil-A their own business practices are deplorable. As is their attitude, take people and convince them a lifetime of bad wages is a good career.


They're a fast food company. I can't fault them so much for that. That's standard procedure, isn't it?

tenpoundsofcheese: The pizza guy voted for a guy who was against gay marriage.
The chick guy is against gay marriage.


We all have a vote. We don't all have millions to donate to hate groups to curtail Americans' rights.
 
2012-09-10 11:04:10 PM  

TV's Vinnie: "One of the reasons that we wanted to stop by is that Scott has been doing unbelievable work out of this pizza shop in promoting the importance of donating blood," Obama told the Times."

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 638x314]
"BOOOOO! GIVING AWAY BLOOD IS SOCIALISM! IF THEY CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT FREE BLOOD THEN LET THEM DIE. LET THEM DIE!!!!"


What's weird is you can totally see that woman's skull.
 
2012-09-10 11:04:15 PM  

vernonFL: We are all free to shop, or not shop, wherever we want. This includes Chick Fil A and this guy's pizza place.


Chick Fil A was boycotted for supporting hate.

This guy is being boycotted for not actively hating the right person.
 
2012-09-10 11:06:03 PM  

Bloody William: That's standard procedure, isn't it?


There's a difference between McDonald's, Burger King and Chik-Fil-A, the people at McDonald's and Burger King know that for the vast majority of their employes they're just job experience, they won't stay long, and they make no effort to try to sway them into staying on for years and years. At Chik-Fil-A? They want people who will stay for years and years, and then they try to make them feel proud that they got conned into thinking this is the most they could do with their life. Your average McDonald's manager is going to think there's something up if a 20 year old shows up and says he wants to work there as long as possible, his entire career if possible. A Chik-Fil-A manager? They're taught to value people like that.
 
2012-09-10 11:06:28 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: I don't care for either side of the aisle.


i.imgur.com

/ProTip: that "line" only 'works' when you're new
 
2012-09-10 11:07:26 PM  
For those curious about Chik-Fil-A here's a piece from Forbes of all places, that's not exactly a ringing endorsement.
 
2012-09-10 11:07:55 PM  

Some 'Splainin' To Do: Are they still feeling butthurt about Chick-Fil'a?


No, no, you see when liberals boycotted Chik-Fil-A, that was liberals hating the corporation's freedom of speech. When teabaggers boycott this pizza place, that's the teabaggers exercising their freedom of speech.

See? That was simple.
 
2012-09-10 11:08:16 PM  
The more this election drags on the more I lament for the loss of the Republican Party. The party of Lincoln has fallen upon dark times. We sold our ideals for hollow arguments, our values for bibles, and our national pride to corporate interest.

Has it really come to this? Are we so blinded by pure hatred that we are willing to our own? The man simply hugged the president. He is a small business owner who makes great strides in his community, if this man was $100 million richer he would be upon a giant marble base for all to gaze upon, he would be a hero of the old republican guard and model for the new! But no, we have taken a person who has earned success in the most ethical way possible and turned him into a target for boycotting. He runs a charity about donating blood for Christ's sake! Not about converting gays with the power of prayer, not about supporting fundamentalist teachings, not to shout vile things at scared young girls as they make the toughest call of their lives inside an abortion clinic, but giving blood! It doesn't get more non-partisan than that.

I worry about the future of my party.

/Damn Talibaggers
 
2012-09-10 11:09:05 PM  

Fart_Machine: shotglasss: Antagonism based on religion. That's what you're going with?

Oddly enough even though In N Out is run by an evangelical, they don't feel the need to donate to anti-gay groups. How about that?


Does that evangelical take money that he makes from In-N-Out and donate to groups that don't support gay marriage? Like his church?

It was rumored that they supported Prop 8 btw, but I don't know if that is just a rumor from the left.
 
2012-09-10 11:10:10 PM  
But But, we were told in the previous thread!

surfrider:

Um, it's not the Republicans known for reactionary boycotts and protests...just sayin.
 
2012-09-10 11:11:06 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: I am not a Republican, so what is your point again?


tenpoundsofcheese is a librul plant.
 
2012-09-10 11:11:28 PM  

WhyteRaven74: As is their attitude, take people and convince them a lifetime of bad wages is a good career.


Virtually every fast food franchise does this.
 
2012-09-10 11:11:34 PM  
tenpoundsofcheese: You sound tired stupid.
 
2012-09-10 11:12:31 PM  
You can also like his foundation's page on FB. It'll make you feel like you did something.
 
2012-09-10 11:13:16 PM  
Large company donates to homophobic groups who fight against gay rights.
Small business pizza guy hugs Obama, donates to various non hatey charities.

Yes the two are totally equivalent.
 
2012-09-10 11:13:23 PM  
https://www.facebook.com/TheVanDuzerFoundation Van-dur.... There's the link
 
2012-09-10 11:23:07 PM  
secret service?
 
2012-09-10 11:23:39 PM  

tinderfitles: The more this election drags on the more I lament for the loss of the Republican Party. The party of Lincoln has fallen upon dark times. We sold our ideals for hollow arguments, our values for bibles, and our national pride to corporate interest.

Has it really come to this? Are we so blinded by pure hatred that we are willing to our own? The man simply hugged the president. He is a small business owner who makes great strides in his community, if this man was $100 million richer he would be upon a giant marble base for all to gaze upon, he would be a hero of the old republican guard and model for the new! But no, we have taken a person who has earned success in the most ethical way possible and turned him into a target for boycotting. He runs a charity about donating blood for Christ's sake! Not about converting gays with the power of prayer, not about supporting fundamentalist teachings, not to shout vile things at scared young girls as they make the toughest call of their lives inside an abortion clinic, but giving blood! It doesn't get more non-partisan than that.

I worry about the future of my party.

/Damn Talibaggers


Yeah, they sold out the last good thing they had going for them, but that was back in 1964 with the southern strategy; their economics had been retarded since Teddy left for the bull moose party; their foreign policy was never that great and went straight to hell when the likes of Cheney got their hands in the pot under Nixon. Reagan's deals with the religious right just made a terrible mess worse. So when precisely did you join this clusterfark that you feel you can lament it's current position?
 
2012-09-10 11:24:33 PM  
Boy there is a whole lot of this going on here...

www.picturenose.com

Sadly, this is what our country has come to and there are very few on this thread whom wouldn't react in the same way if this guy had bear hugged Mitt Romney.

There needs to be some adults who can point out to the fringes that there is a huge difference between someone advocating/campaigning for an individual and someone who is campaigning AGAINST someone..

If I lived in the area around this guy's pizza shop, I would probably make it a point to buy a couple of pies from him, provided he made something worth eating.

While this guy is no hero like Nguyen Ngoc Loan, he has every right to advocate for President Obama without have the lessor of us trying to boycott his pizza shop.
 
2012-09-10 11:28:07 PM  

jpo2269: ... and there are very few on this thread whom wouldn't react in the same way if this guy had bear hugged Mitt Romney.


The rest of your post made sense, but this part was outright delusional.

A few certain whackjobs aside, most of us would crack a few jokes but otherwise wouldn't give a damn.
 
2012-09-10 11:28:12 PM  
beta_plus:
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Then get it line libs and support him.

It's a free country.

Of course, have the dignity to do it with money you earned and not your welfare checks.

img849.imageshack.us

You sound tired.

No one takes you even remotely seriously.
 
2012-09-10 11:34:22 PM  
Sorry, but I think we need to support the Job Creators and not just some guy that sells pizzas. ExxonMobil hires and fires more people in a day than this guy does all year! It's obvious that this country is far too worried about small businesses and not concerned enough about corporate profits. That's the real barometer of our economy.

That's why I'm with Mitt.
 
2012-09-10 11:37:12 PM  

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2012-09-10 11:28:07 PM

jpo2269: ... and there are very few on this thread whom wouldn't react in the same way if this guy had bear hugged Mitt Romney.

The rest of your post made sense, but this part was outright delusional.

A few certain whackjobs aside, most of us would crack a few jokes but otherwise wouldn't give a damn


So, maybe you are part of the "very few," notice I did not.try to make an absolute statement.....
 
2012-09-10 11:37:32 PM  

Fart_Machine: Virtually every fast food franchise does this.


No, McDonald's doesn't expect people who are applying for jobs to be there forever.

jpo2269: Sadly, this is what our country has come to and there are very few on this thread whom wouldn't react in the same way if this guy had bear hugged Mitt Romney.


I wouldn't give a damn if he did that. It would rank a solid 0 on my give-a-fark-o-meter
 
2012-09-10 11:39:31 PM  

Sandelaphon: tinderfitles: The more this election drags on the more I lament for the loss of the Republican Party. The party of Lincoln has fallen upon dark times. We sold our ideals for hollow arguments, our values for bibles, and our national pride to corporate interest.

Has it really come to this? Are we so blinded by pure hatred that we are willing to our own? The man simply hugged the president. He is a small business owner who makes great strides in his community, if this man was $100 million richer he would be upon a giant marble base for all to gaze upon, he would be a hero of the old republican guard and model for the new! But no, we have taken a person who has earned success in the most ethical way possible and turned him into a target for boycotting. He runs a charity about donating blood for Christ's sake! Not about converting gays with the power of prayer, not about supporting fundamentalist teachings, not to shout vile things at scared young girls as they make the toughest call of their lives inside an abortion clinic, but giving blood! It doesn't get more non-partisan than that.

I worry about the future of my party.

/Damn Talibaggers

Yeah, they sold out the last good thing they had going for them, but that was back in 1964 with the southern strategy; their economics had been retarded since Teddy left for the bull moose party; their foreign policy was never that great and went straight to hell when the likes of Cheney got their hands in the pot under Nixon. Reagan's deals with the religious right just made a terrible mess worse. So when precisely did you join this clusterfark that you feel you can lament it's current position?


I was born into it. Family is from Pennsyltucky, born in Georgia and spent most of my life here on and around military bases. I've been listening to Limbaugh since I was little. Hell even called into his show once when I was maybe 11 to tell him that "Maybe we should talk it over before we storm a Chinese base to take back our electronic surveillance aircraft". I have seen a lot of good republicans, my dad included, been talked down to like some sort of "race traitor" for daring to even think of compromise. I mean when a man graduates from west point, serves in the military for most of his life, wins a bronze star, earns a legion of merit, who considers himself a strict constitutionalists, and has a picture of him circa '83 with a cutout of Ronald Reagen, is shut off for not being republican enough then I consider it time to lament.

/In case you are wondering I am 23.
 
2012-09-10 11:51:40 PM  

Demetrius: Way to support small business.

Stay classy, GOP.


LOL. Liberals boycott Rush, any business that advertises on Rush, Komen Foundation, etc... They are the heroes of the liberal world.

Some conservatives boycott.. "stay classy." What intellectually inconsistent shiatheads the fark liberal elite are.
 
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