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2012-09-10 06:16:37 PM
I can't believe they didn't mention the 4th timeout that Seattle was granted in their game against Arizona. That was probably the most obvious mess up yesterday.
 
2012-09-10 06:21:39 PM
The Pack-Niners game was an utter clusterfark of failed officiating. I'm not sure how the NFL can even put that game on the books.

/the free market in action: lowest-paid = best ... right?
 
2012-09-10 06:21:52 PM

mikemoto: I can't believe they didn't mention the 4th timeout that Seattle was granted in their game against Arizona. That was probably the most obvious mess up yesterday.



Sheesh, indeed.  With 30 second to go.  I had no skin in that game and I was finding myself getting angry.
 
2012-09-10 06:22:25 PM

mikemoto: I can't believe they didn't mention the 4th timeout that Seattle was granted in their game against Arizona. That was probably the most obvious mess up yesterday.


I didn't catch that one. That's... really bad.
 
2012-09-10 06:22:36 PM

gameshowhost: The Pack-Niners game was an utter clusterfark of failed officiating. I'm not sure how the NFL can even put that game on the books.

/the free market in action: lowest-paid = best ... right?



In a sick way I'm so glad that was a national, prime-time game.
 
2012-09-10 06:24:42 PM
I was actually surprised with the refs for the Texans/Dolphins game. Very few missed/shiatty calls in that. Probably the best officiating out of all the games played.
 
2012-09-10 06:30:13 PM
There's bad calls for play on the field that any ref could make but then theres the bad calls a non-ref wouldn't make, yesterday was full of the latter.
 
2012-09-10 06:31:13 PM

mikemoto: I can't believe they didn't mention the 4th timeout that Seattle was granted in their game against Arizona. That was probably the most obvious mess up yesterday.


It got its own post last night because it was such a ridiculous error. It's linked in the second sentence of the article.
 
2012-09-10 06:34:32 PM
I don't understand how the NFL, the most profitable sports group, who have a VERY VESTED interest in keeping their players as healthy has possible based on the amount of cash invested in them, seems so darn stingy on refs.
 
2012-09-10 06:35:01 PM

mikemoto: I can't believe they didn't mention the 4th timeout that Seattle was granted in their game against Arizona. That was probably the most obvious mess up yesterday.


Yeah, that was by far the most glaring one. Perhaps the writer simply doesn't care about either team.


Gratified to see the Saints/Redskins game on there, although really the reffing wasn't at all terrible. I do wish that the author had tossed in that Brees was once sacked by his facemask and no flag was thrown; of course, the real refs miss facemasks fairly often, too, so perhaps it's not worth pointing out.
 
2012-09-10 06:35:21 PM

mikemoto: I can't believe they didn't mention the 4th timeout that Seattle was granted in their game against Arizona. That was probably the most obvious mess up yesterday.


I'm thinking the fact that it had little impact on the game may have something to do with it. Had the timeout been burned properly by the Baldwin injury, Carroll would not have called a run play there and even if he did, there was still plenty of time to stop the clock or run another play. That said...yeah it looked terrible and then it got worse when they created a rule to fit what happened.
 
2012-09-10 06:36:50 PM

snowshovel: I don't understand how the NFL, the most profitable sports group, who have a VERY VESTED interest in keeping their players as healthy has possible based on the amount of cash invested in them, seems so darn stingy on refs.


Because they know they don't have to pay them much. Where else are they going to go?
 
2012-09-10 06:40:02 PM

Misplaced yat: Yeah, that was by far the most glaring one. Perhaps the writer simply doesn't care about either team.


They already did an entire article on it (linked in the opening paragraph).
 
2012-09-10 06:41:53 PM

gameshowhost: The Pack-Niners game was an utter clusterfark of failed officiating. I'm not sure how the NFL can even put that game on the books.

/the free market in action: lowest-paid = best ... right?


Did the officials finally throw some defensive holding flags on the GB defense? If so, I consider the replacements an improvement.
 
2012-09-10 06:43:40 PM
The worst call all day was that dummy offensive coordinator subbing in a vulture to steal a touchdown from my fantasy back. Farking WORST CALL EVER!!! 

//true story
 
2012-09-10 06:44:02 PM

scottydoesntknow: Misplaced yat: Yeah, that was by far the most glaring one. Perhaps the writer simply doesn't care about either team.

They already did an entire article on it (linked in the opening paragraph).


That's what I get for only lightly scanning the article header. Curse them for putting actual information up there this time.
 
2012-09-10 06:46:12 PM

mikemoto: I can't believe they didn't mention the 4th timeout that Seattle was granted in their game against Arizona. That was probably the most obvious mess up yesterday.


It was mentioned in the opening paragraph and linked to the article already written about it last night.
 
2012-09-10 06:52:30 PM
came expecting mlb. leaving disappointed. it was the first week you fanboyz for crying out load.
 
2012-09-10 06:54:11 PM
The Pack-Niners game

they sure favored the Packers, but Alex Smith rose above it
 
2012-09-10 06:57:54 PM
Rodgers got yanked down by a blatant facemask that wasn't called as well. The replay looked like it was from the "This is what a Facemask Penalty Looks Like" informational video.

/Bills fan
//No officiating could save us from our own inept QB and useless Front Four
 
2012-09-10 07:00:45 PM
If you expect perfection, find another planet.
 
2012-09-10 07:02:09 PM
Did any of you guys talking about the time out no read the article at all?

That's not to mention losing track of time outs, which we covered last night.

Right there, second sentence with a link to the article all about the blown timeout.
 
2012-09-10 07:02:59 PM
In regards to the facemask penalties, I saw big Ben getting sacked by his facemask last night, from a sideline cam, on the far side of the field. No call. These refs suck. Sure they looked OK in the preseason but like the NFLPA warned, the speed of the regular season is too much for these guys.

Besides, who watches preseason games. Closely.
 
2012-09-10 07:03:19 PM

bojon: If you expect perfection, find another planet.


The sheer incompetence of the missed calls yesterday makes me think the real refs are geniuses. They were that bad.
 
2012-09-10 07:06:12 PM
whar Monday Football Thread WHAR
 
2012-09-10 07:07:57 PM

12349876: whar Monday Football Thread WHAR


Do people never look down past the first two headlines?

It's been green for hours.
 
2012-09-10 07:08:46 PM
scabwatch
Sep 10, 2012 3:35 PM 37,986 84

Here Are The 21 Worst Replacement Referee Mistakes From Sunday
Timothy Burke

Despite management-friendly scribes swearing to the contrary, the NFL's replacement officials made some enormous errors yesterday-some of which affected the outcome of games and at least one that directly led to a starting quarterback being knocked out of the game. That's not to mention losing track of time outs, which we covered last night. In general, most of the mistakes were of the purely-boneheaded (calling blocks in the back on punt teams, for example) variety, and there were far more than we could illustrate here. We'll try to do this every week, with your help; if you see a replacement referee blunder, tweet at us or use the #scabwatch hashtag.



i have no problem with this guy pointing out referee mistakes but the "scabwatch" and "if you see a replacement referee blunder", just reeks of an agenda.

yeah. we get it. they're using backups. by definition, not the elite, cream of the crop, paid folks that usually do the job. mistakes will happen.

So, when the regular referees return circa Week 5 (some speculation the pain of missing $5,500 game checks is already eroding solidarity), I hope you have the stones to run the same kind of "OMG LOOK AT YESTERDAY'S 20 WORST REGULAR NFL REFEREE COLUMN", Mr. Burke. because Ed "inadvertent whistle" Hochuli or any number of other NFL referees (hasselbeck in the super bowl, botched coin flip, the Lions player that almost decapitated the Vikes QB last year, Giants' Victor Cruz non-fumble fumble, ad motherfarking infiniturm) never make mistakes. right?
 
2012-09-10 07:10:01 PM

FirstNationalBastard: 12349876: whar Monday Football Thread WHAR

Do people never look down past the first two headlines?

It's been green for hours.


It's so far down the page people will give up and never find it. Why the hell do you green a discussion thread 10 hours before the farking event starts anyway?
 
2012-09-10 07:10:41 PM

antidisestablishmentarianism: In regards to the facemask penalties, I saw big Ben getting sacked by his facemask last night, from a sideline cam, on the far side of the field. No call. These refs suck. Sure they looked OK in the preseason but like the NFLPA warned, the speed of the regular season is too much for these guys.

Besides, who watches preseason games. Closely.


Legitimate Roethlisberger not getting the call may been for other reasons. When Ngata punched him in the face and broke his nose, no flag was thrown.
 
2012-09-10 07:12:31 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: The worst call all day was that dummy offensive coordinator subbing in a vulture to steal a touchdown from my fantasy back. Farking WORST CALL EVER!!! 

//true story


who are you referring to?
 
2012-09-10 07:12:37 PM
I did not want the Hawks to win that way. They did not deserve to win that game especially after the no timeout/timeout. Terrible calls against both teams. I can't believe I'm missing the normal refs. It's a ton of little things, game management etc...
 
2012-09-10 07:22:01 PM

litespeed74: I can't believe I'm missing the normal refs.


I think many fans feel that way. Even the blown calls that help your team cheapen the victory a little bit.

overfienduglar: When Ngata punched him in the face and broke his nose, no flag was thrown


I totally missed that one. I may have been pooping, or smoking.
 
2012-09-10 07:30:02 PM
We need Guns and his boys back, that much is clear. Goodell will fold eventually.
 
2012-09-10 07:31:43 PM

antidisestablishmentarianism: litespeed74: I can't believe I'm missing the normal refs.

I think many fans feel that way. Even the blown calls that help your team cheapen the victory a little bit.

overfienduglar: When Ngata punched him in the face and broke his nose, no flag was thrown

I totally missed that one. I may have been pooping, or smoking.


Here
 
2012-09-10 07:39:04 PM

mikemoto: I can't believe they didn't mention the 4th timeout that Seattle was granted in their game against Arizona. That was probably the most obvious mess up yesterday.


Apparently that is the third time in nine seasons that has happened.

It never excuseable though, regular or replacement refs. The rule is pretty clear.
 
2012-09-10 07:44:22 PM
I'd say the most egregious faults are the ones that have nothing to do with penalizing a team. As in, Seattle's phantom 4th timeout, along with 24+5 = 30, failing to stop the clock, etc. These are mundane but terribly important things to get right, since there's no real way to undo the damage caused by that mistake. Rulings on the field can change one way or another, but if you fail to blow the whistle at the right time, everyone's shiat outta luck
 
2012-09-10 07:49:37 PM
Whar is MNF thread? WHAR?
 
2012-09-10 07:51:19 PM

overfienduglar: antidisestablishmentarianism: litespeed74: I can't believe I'm missing the normal refs.

I think many fans feel that way. Even the blown calls that help your team cheapen the victory a little bit.

overfienduglar: When Ngata punched him in the face and broke his nose, no flag was thrown

I totally missed that one. I may have been pooping, or smoking.

Here


Dude, I missed that one until it was replayed in slow motion. Even then I don't know if it was as bad of a missed call as the ones we saw yesterday.
 
2012-09-10 07:53:26 PM
Heh, like there's been no NFL season whatsoever where the fans don't whine about the refs. Or are things like the Immaculate Reception just a dream I had?
 
2012-09-10 07:56:33 PM
in defense of the Patriot/Titan game; The pass interference in the end zone wasn't pass interference. There is contact on almost every play. McCourty may have touched him on the back to keep track of him, but didn't spin him or turn him in a way that would constitute interference.

Secondly, the fumble was a fumble. Dude caught ball, no bobbling, came down, lowered his shoulder and made contact with the DB... THEN, Mayo I believe, came in and knocked him out. It was a KO, UFC style. Ball came loose before he hit the ground. WHEN HE LOWERED HIS SHOULDER AND MADE CONTACT, it completed the catch.

So yeah, the refs make some mistakes, but I was starting to think the official officials were taking bets on the games the way they would push a team like a face in a pro wrestling match.

/It's a wash, quitcherbiatchin
 
2012-09-10 07:59:09 PM

rickythepenguin: scabwatch
Sep 10, 2012 3:35 PM 37,986 84

Here Are The 21 Worst Replacement Referee Mistakes From Sunday
Timothy Burke

Despite management-friendly scribes swearing to the contrary, the NFL's replacement officials made some enormous errors yesterday-some of which affected the outcome of games and at least one that directly led to a starting quarterback being knocked out of the game. That's not to mention losing track of time outs, which we covered last night. In general, most of the mistakes were of the purely-boneheaded (calling blocks in the back on punt teams, for example) variety, and there were far more than we could illustrate here. We'll try to do this every week, with your help; if you see a replacement referee blunder, tweet at us or use the #scabwatch hashtag.


i have no problem with this guy pointing out referee mistakes but the "scabwatch" and "if you see a replacement referee blunder", just reeks of an agenda.

yeah. we get it. they're using backups. by definition, not the elite, cream of the crop, paid folks that usually do the job. mistakes will happen.

So, when the regular referees return circa Week 5 (some speculation the pain of missing $5,500 game checks is already eroding solidarity), I hope you have the stones to run the same kind of "OMG LOOK AT YESTERDAY'S 20 WORST REGULAR NFL REFEREE COLUMN", Mr. Burke. because Ed "inadvertent whistle" Hochuli or any number of other NFL referees (hasselbeck in the super bowl, botched coin flip, the Lions player that almost decapitated the Vikes QB last year, Giants' Victor Cruz non-fumble fumble, ad motherfarking infiniturm) never make mistakes. right?


Amen. You could run this "story" every week. In the games I watched, I thought the refs did fine-what the NFL should be concerned with is all the sarcasm being used by the announcers that they don't use when the regular refs are out there.
 
2012-09-10 08:12:57 PM

Poison: Amen. You could run this "story" every week. In the games I watched, I thought the refs did fine-what the NFL should be concerned with is all the sarcasm being used by the announcers that they don't use when the regular refs are out there.


Sure the professional refs make mistakes, everyone does. But the number of impact mistakes and the effect they had on games yesterday would probably equal a seasons worth of boo boos the regular refs would have made.

In the NFL a only one rookie official is allowed to work with a staff of seasoned zebras. What we had yesterday was a whole staff of rookies and the results showed. Some staffs did better than others but in the three games I saw (bears-colts, packers 49ers, seahawks, cardinals, steelers-broncos) the mistakes were numerous and terrible.
 
2012-09-10 08:13:04 PM
I was expecting this to just be from the Niners/Pack game alone.
 
2012-09-10 08:27:08 PM
Packers/Niners game had a ton of bad calls on both sides.

1. The ones mentioned in this article
2. Rodgers getting facemask sacked. Unless now dragging a guy down by his facemask isn't a facemasking, that was so obvious a blind man could've seen it
3. The missed illegal block in the back on the punt return TD. No explanation needed
4. Quite a few missed holding/PI calls against the Niners. It seemed every other pass, the Niners defense was dry humping the Packer receivers


That said, Niners deserved the win.
 
2012-09-10 08:33:51 PM

TiiiMMMaHHH: In defense of the Patriot/Titan game; The pass interference in the end zone wasn't pass interference. There is contact on almost every play. McCourty may have touched him on the back to keep track of him, but didn't spin him or turn him in a way that would constitute interference.


Dude he knocked him over without playing the ball, before the ball got there.
 
2012-09-10 08:34:56 PM
On that Jermichael Finley end zone PI (Packers Niners)...

In what universe was that pass catchable? It was like 7 feet over Finley's head and kinda behind him.
 
2012-09-10 08:40:03 PM
119 part-timers vs NFL Owners. Good luck with that.
 
2012-09-10 08:56:25 PM

Dafatone: On that Jermichael Finley end zone PI (Packers Niners)...

In what universe was that pass catchable? It was like 7 feet over Finley's head and kinda behind him.


In the universe where teams that believe their teams are better than others and should have won that game so they need someone to blame, they call the redskins/saints PI in the end zone "phantom" yet he was grabbing his arms down before the ball ever got there, you cant do that or you arent allowed to do that yet the NFL officials let that call go every time.
 
2012-09-10 08:57:12 PM
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Photoshop thread fodder?
 
2012-09-10 09:05:26 PM
Fark ups, Fark ups everywhere.
 
2012-09-10 09:17:53 PM
Paul's pushing of Bruno off-track not getting so much as a bat of the eyelids and Seb getting a drive-through for failing to yield to a Ferrari are another pair of bad calls by the officials from yesterday.

/yes I know the link is about football
//at least the NFL refs, regular and subs, have the common decency to at least pretend they're not on the take
///still not quite as bad as the boxing refs in London last month
 
2012-09-10 09:26:38 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: [img.gawkerassets.com image 640x360]

Photoshop thread fodder?


I want to see an animated gif of the spit flying out of his mouth from just after the start of the game.
 
2012-09-10 09:38:39 PM

antidisestablishmentarianism: Poison: Amen. You could run this "story" every week. In the games I watched, I thought the refs did fine-what the NFL should be concerned with is all the sarcasm being used by the announcers that they don't use when the regular refs are out there.

Sure the professional refs make mistakes, everyone does. But the number of impact mistakes and the effect they had on games yesterday would probably equal a seasons worth of boo boos the regular refs would have made.

In the NFL a only one rookie official is allowed to work with a staff of seasoned zebras. What we had yesterday was a whole staff of rookies and the results showed. Some staffs did better than others but in the three games I saw (bears-colts, packers 49ers, seahawks, cardinals, steelers-broncos) the mistakes were numerous and terrible.


Bluto?
 
2012-09-10 10:11:32 PM
Someone needs to go back to last year's first week and count the errors. I guarantee you'll find just as many. Officials screw up all the time. These guys are just under a microscope because of the labor issue.

Go watch the Seahawks/Steelers Superbowl. That entire crew should have been fired.
 
2012-09-10 10:15:56 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: [img.gawkerassets.com image 640x360]

Photoshop thread fodder?


At first I was like Are You A Wizard since that was just on TV but it turns out it was the other Harbaugh bro chewing out a scab zebra.
 
2012-09-10 10:33:23 PM
Meh, I didn't think they were particularly bad. It's not as if the old pros were batting 1.000 in their games.

I wish they had taken the opportunity to finally get rid of the stupid peep show booth on the field and have give all replay calls to the guys upstairs.
 
2012-09-10 10:51:17 PM

gameshowhost: The Pack-Niners game was an utter clusterfark of failed officiating. I'm not sure how the NFL can even put that game on the books.

/the free market in action: lowest-paid = best ... right?


maybe but the calls were so bad both ways i think the loosing team was actually given a better chance to win.
 
2012-09-10 11:13:32 PM
If we could vacate all Ed Hochuli-reffed games and retroactively install instant replay for all scoring plays, the Eagles would have at least three less division titles and the Giants probably 2-3 more Super Bowl victories.

/Yes, Giants fan
//Holding on Cruz last week = 1st and goal on the 1. Cruz is on my FF team too, dammit.
///Randall Cunningham STILL didn't cross the goal line 24 years later.
////In fairness, DeSean Jackson did score on that punt return
 
2012-09-10 11:27:45 PM
the 4th timeout for the trollhawks is deserving of an entirely separate posting.
 
2012-09-10 11:33:46 PM

TiiiMMMaHHH: in defense of the Patriot/Titan game; The pass interference in the end zone wasn't pass interference. There is contact on almost every play. McCourty may have touched him on the back to keep track of him, but didn't spin him or turn him in a way that would constitute interference.

Secondly, the fumble was a fumble. Dude caught ball, no bobbling, came down, lowered his shoulder and made contact with the DB... THEN, Mayo I believe, came in and knocked him out. It was a KO, UFC style. Ball came loose before he hit the ground. WHEN HE LOWERED HIS SHOULDER AND MADE CONTACT, it completed the catch.


Nope, both were originally called incorrectly. On the PI, the DB literally runs over the WR while the ball is in the air. And on the fumble/inc the receiver barely has his feet on the ground and if he is doing anything it is just trying to defend himself when he gets creamed. He is not attempting to "making a football move" when the ball comes loose.

That being said, the article is wrong about the Jennings PI against the colts though. The refs made the correct call and It was pass interference. You can see the right hand of Jennings on the receivers arm stopping him from extending to try to catch the ball. There may be more later on that are wrong, but I stopped watching after that.
 
2012-09-10 11:50:41 PM

machoprogrammer: Packers/Niners game had a ton of bad calls on both sides.

1. The ones mentioned in this article
2. Rodgers getting facemask sacked. Unless now dragging a guy down by his facemask isn't a facemasking, that was so obvious a blind man could've seen it
3. The missed illegal block in the back on the punt return TD. No explanation needed
4. Quite a few missed holding/PI calls against the Niners. It seemed every other pass, the Niners defense was dry humping the Packer receivers


That said, Niners deserved the win.


100% agree except that there were a few missed PI calls on the Packers too.

/the Packers were terrible yesterday and I'm not sure they're going to be any better on Thursday
 
2012-09-10 11:58:54 PM

Doogled: gameshowhost: The Pack-Niners game was an utter clusterfark of failed officiating. I'm not sure how the NFL can even put that game on the books.

/the free market in action: lowest-paid = best ... right?

Did the officials finally throw some defensive holding flags on the GB defense? If so, I consider the replacements an improvement.


E_Henry_Thripshaws_Disease: The Pack-Niners game

they sure favored the Packers, but Alex Smith rose above it


Wow. Were you guys watching the game in less than three dimensions or something?

/yes the packers played like crap and deserved to lose
//but the officiating was utter crap across the board, packers weren't being handed the game by any means
///the whole thing was just a crapsack of an excuse for a gridiron battle, thanks to the scabs
 
2012-09-11 12:00:36 AM

gameshowhost: Doogled: gameshowhost: The Pack-Niners game was an utter clusterfark of failed officiating. I'm not sure how the NFL can even put that game on the books.

/the free market in action: lowest-paid = best ... right?

Did the officials finally throw some defensive holding flags on the GB defense? If so, I consider the replacements an improvement.

E_Henry_Thripshaws_Disease: The Pack-Niners game

they sure favored the Packers, but Alex Smith rose above it

Wow. Were you guys watching the game in less than three dimensions or something?

/yes the packers played like crap and deserved to lose
//but the officiating was utter crap across the board, packers weren't being handed the game by any means
///the whole thing was just a crapsack of an excuse for a gridiron battle, thanks to the scabs


Nhojwolfe: gameshowhost: The Pack-Niners game was an utter clusterfark of failed officiating. I'm not sure how the NFL can even put that game on the books.

/the free market in action: lowest-paid = best ... right?

maybe but the calls were so bad both ways i think the loosing team was actually given a better chance to win.


YOU TOO, BUDDY
lol
 
2012-09-11 12:08:56 AM
Really though... do any Niners fans really want the win that bad that they think this officiating is really worth it? The entire league is suffering from the refs' FUBAR-orama; legitimate competition is what's being destroyed... and the fans (consumers of NFL games) are the ones that are going to lose. If nothing changes? It'll be your team's turn in the barrel, next.
 
2012-09-11 12:45:04 AM
As a Detroit Lion fan, I LOVE the replacement refs.

Old refs farked us over on "bad reputation" calls. New refs let players play.

fark Ed Steroidlis and company. Suck a dick and never come back.
 
2012-09-11 01:51:07 AM
I don't get the complaint on the Skins interference call, heck it was borderline for sure but seasoned refs might have called it
 
2012-09-11 01:54:43 AM

snowshovel: I don't understand how the NFL, the most profitable sports group, who have a VERY VESTED interest in keeping their players as healthy has possible based on the amount of cash invested in them, seems so darn stingy on refs.


Agreed. Refs, in my view, are like insurance on your house. If you have a million-dollar house, you don't want a policy that writes you a check for $450,000.
I'm surprised players didn't stage a strike of their own for their own safety. If this country had significant presence of organized labor anymore, they probably would have.
 
2012-09-11 06:36:51 AM

gameshowhost: The Pack-Niners game was an utter clusterfark of failed officiating. I'm not sure how the NFL can even put that game on the books.

/the free market in action: lowest-paid = best ... right?


As a packer fan, i would LOVE to blame the loss on officiating, but it was so horrible how could you POSSIBLY determine which team was helped most?
 
2012-09-11 06:40:05 AM

HanShotFirst: Someone needs to go back to last year's first week and count the errors. I guarantee you'll find just as many. Officials screw up all the time. These guys are just under a microscope because of the labor issue.

Go watch the Seahawks/Steelers Superbowl. That entire crew should have been fired.


um, no.

Sure there are mistakes, but... no.
 
2012-09-11 08:23:52 AM
I enjoyed the Pats-Titans crew, one would throw a flag and all the others would immediately throw their flags at the first flag.
 
2012-09-11 08:28:52 AM

TiiiMMMaHHH: in defense of the Patriot/Titan game; The pass interference in the end zone wasn't pass interference. There is contact on almost every play. McCourty may have touched him on the back to keep track of him, but didn't spin him or turn him in a way that would constitute interference.

Secondly, the fumble was a fumble. Dude caught ball, no bobbling, came down, lowered his shoulder and made contact with the DB... THEN, Mayo I believe, came in and knocked him out. It was a KO, UFC style. Ball came loose before he hit the ground. WHEN HE LOWERED HIS SHOULDER AND MADE CONTACT, it completed the catch.

So yeah, the refs make some mistakes, but I was starting to think the official officials were taking bets on the games the way they would push a team like a face in a pro wrestling match.

/It's a wash, quitcherbiatchin


Watched both of those closely, the fumble absolutely should've been overturned as it was -- but I thought the refs made the right call at the moment to let the play finish before the automatic review triggered, it was close enough that it would've really hosed the Pats if the got it wrong. In hindsight it sucks that Locker got taken out on that play. However, given the way Hassie played in relief I think the refs did Ten a solid here anyway.

/PI was very PI

//Neither play really affected the outcome contrary to TFAs claims

///Pats fan

////slashies
 
2012-09-11 08:50:31 AM

I sound fat: gameshowhost: The Pack-Niners game was an utter clusterfark of failed officiating. I'm not sure how the NFL can even put that game on the books.

/the free market in action: lowest-paid = best ... right?

As a packer fan, i would LOVE to blame the loss on officiating, but it was so horrible how could you POSSIBLY determine which team was helped most?


This. There's a difference between bad officiating/favoritism and bad officiating/incompetence. We got the second type in that game. You know it's bad when fans of the winning team complain too.

/niners fan
 
2012-09-11 09:16:45 AM

gameshowhost: gameshowhost: Doogled: gameshowhost: The Pack-Niners game was an utter clusterfark of failed officiating. I'm not sure how the NFL can even put that game on the books.

/the free market in action: lowest-paid = best ... right?

Did the officials finally throw some defensive holding flags on the GB defense? If so, I consider the replacements an improvement.

E_Henry_Thripshaws_Disease: The Pack-Niners game

they sure favored the Packers, but Alex Smith rose above it

Wow. Were you guys watching the game in less than three dimensions or something?

/yes the packers played like crap and deserved to lose
//but the officiating was utter crap across the board, packers weren't being handed the game by any means
///the whole thing was just a crapsack of an excuse for a gridiron battle, thanks to the scabs

Nhojwolfe: gameshowhost: The Pack-Niners game was an utter clusterfark of failed officiating. I'm not sure how the NFL can even put that game on the books.

/the free market in action: lowest-paid = best ... right?

maybe but the calls were so bad both ways i think the loosing team was actually given a better chance to win.

YOU TOO, BUDDY
lol


Nope I was watching the game in a state where no one cared who won.
 
2012-09-11 09:24:44 AM
People whining about the 4th timeout should probably realize if they didn't tell Carroll that he had a timeout still, they probably don't run the ball in that situation and have another shot at the end zone.

/for another WR to drop a pass
 
2012-09-11 09:59:35 AM

Huck And Molly Ziegler: snowshovel: I don't understand how the NFL, the most profitable sports group, who have a VERY VESTED interest in keeping their players as healthy has possible based on the amount of cash invested in them, seems so darn stingy on refs.

Agreed. Refs, in my view, are like insurance on your house. If you have a million-dollar house, you don't want a policy that writes you a check for $450,000.
I'm surprised players didn't stage a strike of their own for their own safety. If this country had significant presence of organized labor anymore, they probably would have.


Even if I thought there was a significant increase in the chance of a major injury (which I don't) the idea that it actually matters to the NFL as a whole that they keep their players healthy is a joke. The NFL loses high profile players every year for significant amounts of time and it is still #1. As long as they are not putting entire teams of replacement players on the field the fans will spend just as much, and so will the advertisers.
 
2012-09-11 10:12:32 AM
Late whistles on almost every series. Lots of subtle holding/disguised hands fouls that are not getting called. A play whistled dead, then the receiver advanced, and they gave him the yardage in the MNF game.The late whistles are a safety issue, with at least 8 collisions on any given play, the longer the play lasts, the more unnecessary collisions occur.
 
2012-09-11 10:34:02 AM

Waldo Pepper: I don't get the complaint on the Skins interference call, heck it was borderline for sure but seasoned refs might have called it


Its whichever bandwagon is the largest right now, the saints is the larger one right now so they scream bullshiat call even though it could have gone either way.

The refs, outside of a few glaring examples, did a fine job.
 
2012-09-11 10:40:48 AM

Rhypskallion: Late whistles on almost every series. Lots of subtle holding/disguised hands fouls that are not getting called. A play whistled dead, then the receiver advanced, and they gave him the yardage in the MNF game.The late whistles are a safety issue, with at least 8 collisions on any given play, the longer the play lasts, the more unnecessary collisions occur.


You do realize holding occurs on almost every play in the NFL, right?

The only thing I noticed was the late whistles a few times, those are dangerous.
 
2012-09-11 10:40:59 AM

Rhypskallion: Lots of subtle holding/disguised hands fouls that are not getting called.


First time watching football?
 
2012-09-11 10:47:31 AM

steamingpile: Waldo Pepper: I don't get the complaint on the Skins interference call, heck it was borderline for sure but seasoned refs might have called it

Its whichever bandwagon is the largest right now, the saints is the larger one right now so they scream bullshiat call even though it could have gone either way.

The refs, outside of a few glaring examples, did a fine job.


so pretty much how it is every game, every week in the NFL.
 
2012-09-11 11:34:16 AM

SuperChuck: I sound fat: gameshowhost: The Pack-Niners game was an utter clusterfark of failed officiating. I'm not sure how the NFL can even put that game on the books.

/the free market in action: lowest-paid = best ... right?

As a packer fan, i would LOVE to blame the loss on officiating, but it was so horrible how could you POSSIBLY determine which team was helped most?

This. There's a difference between bad officiating/favoritism and bad officiating/incompetence. We got the second type in that game. You know it's bad when fans of the winning team complain too.

/niners fan


Yeah, you can't accuse those officials of favoritism. So, so many WTF calls going both ways. Receiver gets mugged, no flag. DB looks cross-eyed at receiver, PI. At one I openly wondered if the league got rid of the false start penalty.

/Packer fan
//49ers outplayed them
///officials trolled both teams
 
2012-09-11 12:43:29 PM

Waldo Pepper: steamingpile: Waldo Pepper: I don't get the complaint on the Skins interference call, heck it was borderline for sure but seasoned refs might have called it

Its whichever bandwagon is the largest right now, the saints is the larger one right now so they scream bullshiat call even though it could have gone either way.

The refs, outside of a few glaring examples, did a fine job.

so pretty much how it is every game, every week in the NFL.


Exactly but people need a reason to biatch other than their team is not ready.
 
2012-09-11 12:53:09 PM

Nhojwolfe: Nope I was watching the game in a state where no one cared who won.


You couldn't spell "losing" correctly; how can we trust you to do something much more advanced, like properly interpreting judgment calls? :-|
 
2012-09-11 02:49:24 PM

steamingpile: they call the redskins/saints PI in the end zone "phantom" yet he was grabbing his arms down before the ball ever got there, you cant do that or you arent allowed to do that yet the NFL officials let that call go every time.


Impressive.

Now can you do 24 + 5 = 30?
 
2012-09-11 04:01:06 PM

mikemoto: I can't believe they didn't mention the 4th timeout that Seattle was granted in their game against Arizona. That was probably the most obvious mess up yesterday.


Sure that was bad.

So was not calling Arizona for about 10 offsides penalties or the fact they they hit Wilson late multiple times without penalty.

Either way, they need the real refs back. It has been painful for just about everybody.
 
2012-09-11 04:11:47 PM

stappawho: So was not calling Arizona for about 10 offsides penalties or the fact they they hit Wilson late multiple times without penalty.


In fairness, they let Okung start half the plays early, too, and only called him for it once.
 
2012-09-12 01:13:11 AM

gameshowhost: Really though... do any Niners fans really want the win that bad that they think this officiating is really worth it? The entire league is suffering from the refs' FUBAR-orama; legitimate competition is what's being destroyed... and the fans (consumers of NFL games) are the ones that are going to lose. If nothing changes? It'll be your team's turn in the barrel, next.


looooooooong time Niner fan here.
The ungodly bad officiating went equally to both teams. there were so many blown and missed calls that neither team was given the advantage.
Yes we want the win over the Pack, and we earned it. Even taking all the WTF calls out of the equation, the Niners outplayed the Packers.
 
2012-09-12 07:28:23 AM

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: gameshowhost: Really though... do any Niners fans really want the win that bad that they think this officiating is really worth it? The entire league is suffering from the refs' FUBAR-orama; legitimate competition is what's being destroyed... and the fans (consumers of NFL games) are the ones that are going to lose. If nothing changes? It'll be your team's turn in the barrel, next.

looooooooong time Niner fan here.
The ungodly bad officiating went equally to both teams. there were so many blown and missed calls that neither team was given the advantage.
Yes we want the win over the Pack, and we earned it. Even taking all the WTF calls out of the equation, the Niners outplayed the Packers.


I definitely agree that the 49ers *deserved* to win, as they played superior football.

My issue addresses the notion of 'earned' -- 'earned' means an outcome based on one's own actions, not on a conveniently-even-handed, haphazard, comedy of errors by the ones who are supposed to be maintaining a level playing field. The end (the more-deserving team winning) doesn't justify the means.

/also, the more officiating errors, the harder it is to determine the 'net fairness-outcome' (for lack of a better term) of said errors
//each officiating error has its peculiarities WRT the game situation...
///again - i agree that the niners deserved to win. but even on a level playing field, the more-deserving team still loses some contests
//'that's why we play the games', no?
/anyhow. i hope this mess gets fix'd. goodell is being a stoopid.
 
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