Western Kentucky's logo is its giant red blob of a mascot waving a towel.

I wouldn't have much pride in that, either.

I apologize in advance for the pedantry, but it should be "student body comprises a lot of Kentucky fans." Nothing is ever "comprised of" something. (At least for now. Who knows, in 20 or 30 years it may be acceptable usage.)

Pedantry complete, you may now resume your college sports discussion.

Is he wrong?

/never been to Kentucky

thecpt: Is he wrong?

/never been to Kentucky

Not completely, but there are a lot of people from TN there, too, since it's near the border. I grew up in a town in TN, not far from it, and many of my high school classmates went there. I considered it.

/went to UT Knoxville, instead
//there's also more UT fans than Vandy fans in Nashville, too

ongbok: Is it that hard to get into UK?

Not if you're good at basketball.

You have to be a very special individual if you can't get into UK.

thecpt: Is he wrong?

/never been to Kentucky

No..he isn't.

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UK as an undergraduate institution is not particularly remarkable and has one of the lowest retention rates in the SEC. I teach recitation classes as a part of my TA duties and the range of preparedness is quite large. Can't speak for WKU, but I did my undergrad at the equivalent of a directional uni in Indiana even though I could have gotten into IU or Purdue. There's cache with the big names, but there are a lot of good mid-sized state universities too. I just can't imagine the difference in quality between WKU and UK for most programs is that different. A lot of factors (should) go into choosing a university. Not just fan affiliation.

Cataholic: thecpt: Is he wrong?

/never been to Kentucky

No..he isn't.

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New slogan idea: Western Kentucky: At least we're not Eastern Kentucky

thecpt: Is he wrong?

/never been to Kentucky

The former definitely true. The University of Kentucky has fans over the entire state including Louisville. Louisville fans are mostly contained to the Louisville metro area. The other non FBS schools are sort of treated like a different league, some who have personal connections are big fans of those schools, some just like to see the state get some positive headlines when for example a Western Kentucky makes the Sweet Sixteen or Pikeville wins the NAIA basketball championship . I know Kentucky fans have a hard time cheering too much against them in head to head matchups. The Kentucky/Louisville rivalry is a very heated one and some of the non FBS schools have good rivalries but there's lots of people who are fans of one of each or one big and like to see the little ones do well.

The academic thing probably not so much. Maybe a bit easier to get into Western Kentucky and probably a bit cheaper but I've known people who could have gotten into Kentucky choose to go to a school like Western to get away from home.

zpb52: Cataholic: thecpt: Is he wrong?

/never been to Kentucky

No..he isn't.

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New slogan idea: Western Kentucky: At least we're not Eastern Kentucky

Not new at all. A known fact for all WKU alumni.

/class of '00
/fark Bowling Green, it's like the restrooms of Branson theaters became a town.

12349876: The other non FBS schools

whoops, needs to non BCS Automatic Qualifier conference schools. Or non Power 6 conference schools.

roll tide

I'm from near WKU. The stereotype of Western as a school for people who couldn't get into UK exists, for sure. I'm not sure if there's actually any data to support it, though. As an anecdote, however, I will note that I wouldn't trust many people I know that went to WKU to find their way out of a piss-soaked paper bag. Most of the people I know who went to UK probably could.

zpb52: New slogan idea: Western Kentucky: At least we're not Eastern Kentucky

EKU may not be the most... academically stringent school out there, but there are a whole lot of EKU grads who were the first in their family to graduate from college. The children of EKU grads then go to the better schools. Its numbers may not look great, but as a tool to break the cycle of Appalachian poverty, it does OK.

//Grew up close to Eastern.

He's being honest, not a dumbass. Is the obvious tag on vacation?

zpb52: Cataholic: thecpt: Is he wrong?

/never been to Kentucky

No..he isn't.

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New slogan idea: Western Kentucky: At least we're not Eastern Kentucky

As an Eastern Graduate, I take offense to that! It wasn't too long ago that EKU was beating the Hillsloppers in football, thank you very much.

ongbok: Is it that hard to get into UK?

Probably, if you're a product of the Kentucky school system...

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: ongbok: Is it that hard to get into UK?

Probably, if you're a product of the Kentucky school system...

but, but, but i was told education pays in kentucky.



/and so does coach cal.

Western Kentucky has probably the best photojournalism program in the country.

To put an NFL spin on this, I know Jet fans are really just Giants fans who missed out on season tickets.

velvet_fog: He's being honest, not a dumbass.

They're not mutually exclusive.

As a UK grad, I'll say this:

If you can't get into UK for a non-STEMM degree, you need to rethink going to college. The program I was in was arguably the best in the country, but outside of the sciences, UK doesn't offer a whole lot in terms of the arts.

babysealclubber: As a UK grad, I'll say this:

If you can't get into UK for a non-STEMM degree, you need to rethink going to college. The program I was in was arguably the best in the country, but outside of the sciences, UK doesn't offer a whole lot in terms of the arts.

They state has been pretty committed to making UK the flagship research school. I know WKU has a pretty solid journalism school, and EKU is known for something, if I remember correctly. Morehead (yes, really) State, I believe is supposed to be a good theater school. The regional schools of Kentucky (WKU, EKU, Murray, Morehead, NKU) have their niches.

But the coach was a dumbass. Never denigrate the university that hired you. And the students are dumbasses. Always cheer for your alma mater, not the school you picked as a front-running 9-year-old. You can cheer for UK when they aren't playing your school.

Osomatic: I apologize in advance for the pedantry, but it should be "student body comprises a lot of Kentucky fans." Nothing is ever "comprised of" something. (At least for now. Who knows, in 20 or 30 years it may be acceptable usage.)

The style manuals are still holding the line against the man on the street, but the dictionaries are being routed. Not much chance of that distinction lasting another generation.

"1 Comprise primarily means 'consist of', as in the country comprises twenty states. It can also mean 'constitute or make up a whole', as in this single breed comprises 50 per cent of the Swiss cattle population. When this sense is used in the passive (as in the country is comprised of twenty states), it is more or less synonymous with the first sense ( the country comprises twenty states). This usage is part of standard English, but the construction comprise of, as in the property comprises of bedroom, bathroom, and kitchen, is regarded as incorrect. 2 On the differences between comprise and include, see include (usage)."
--Oxford

"to have as parts or members, or to be those parts or members
The course comprises a class book, a practice book and an audio tape.
The class is comprised mainly of Italian and French students.
Italian students comprise 60% of the class."
--Cambridge

"3: compose, constitute "
--Merriam-Webster

"2. Usage Problem To compose; make up; constitute: the countries and territories that comprised the British Empire....
Usage Note: The traditional rule states that the whole comprises the parts and the parts compose the whole. In strict usage: The Union comprises 50 states. Fifty states compose (or make up) the Union. Even though careful writers often maintain this distinction, comprise is increasingly used in place of compose, especially in the passive: The Union is comprised of 50 states. Our surveys show that opposition to this usage is abating. In the 1960s, 53 percent of the Usage Panel found this usage unacceptable; in 1996, only 35 percent objected. See Usage Note at include."
--American Heritage

oops, the missing M-W bit was:

[a misconception as to what comprises a literary generation - William Styron] [about 8 percent of our military forces are comprised of women - Jimmy Carter]

pion: babysealclubber: As a UK grad, I'll say this:

If you can't get into UK for a non-STEMM degree, you need to rethink going to college. The program I was in was arguably the best in the country, but outside of the sciences, UK doesn't offer a whole lot in terms of the arts.

They state has been pretty committed to making UK the flagship research school. I know WKU has a pretty solid journalism school, and EKU is known for something, if I remember correctly. Morehead (yes, really) State, I believe is supposed to be a good theater school. The regional schools of Kentucky (WKU, EKU, Murray, Morehead, NKU) have their niches.

But the coach was a dumbass. Never denigrate the university that hired you. And the students are dumbasses. Always cheer for your alma mater, not the school you picked as a front-running 9-year-old. You can cheer for UK when they aren't playing your school.

EKU is know for both their College of Justice and Safety (their Police Studies degree is one of only a handful in the US), College of Nursing, and College of Education.