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2012-09-10 06:32:38 AM
10 votes:
There was a Pollyanna-ish naïveté to not only the media but the average American's view of the world and America's place in it.

Everything was still full of wonder and excitement.

Everything that happened afterwards has been a complete reversal of the very cultural fabric that makes up this country. The America we lived in prior to 9/11 no longer exists. The date marks the moment we stopped looking upward and instead we turned our gaze inward and became fearful of the world around us.

If we had only kept our focus and never stepped foot in Iraq, we might have restored ourselves. But now we are only the latest world power to succumb to paranoia and fear and withering support from our international allies. We're done.
2012-09-10 06:51:43 AM
6 votes:

juvandy: There was a Pollyanna-ish naïveté to not only the media but the average American's view of the world and America's place in it.

Everything was still full of wonder and excitement.

Everything that happened afterwards has been a complete reversal of the very cultural fabric that makes up this country. The America we lived in prior to 9/11 no longer exists. The date marks the moment we stopped looking upward and instead we turned our gaze inward and became fearful of the world around us.

Man, isn't that the truth. It's been all downhill since.


I've always been amazed at how well Osama's plan worked. Kill a couple thousand people and we bankrupt the country, give up freedom, trample the constitution and pretty much abandon the American way of life. Well, that is hyperbole, but not by much, it's certainly headed in that direction.
2012-09-10 09:46:32 AM
3 votes:
We also reacted exactly the way bin Laden wanted us to react, after the attack, and still to this day.
2012-09-10 08:20:58 AM
3 votes:

Ed Grubermann: Can we please move on? It's been eleven years.


Never!

i.imgur.com
2012-09-10 06:31:56 AM
3 votes:
Can we please move on? It's been eleven years.
2012-09-10 09:14:29 AM
2 votes:

vudukungfu: Be outraged that the blood of innocent people is being spilled over a knee jerk reaction to an incident that should have been brushed off as the cost of doing business as a free country


Yeah, um, no. We'd never had anything of that magnitude happen here before. Hell, NOBODY had had a terrorist attack of that magnitude occur on a single day. Did we end up massively screwing the pooch with our overreaction? Yep. But saying "shrug it off" is probably a bit ignorant of mass psychology. If we'd done Afghanistan correctly, and ignored Iraq, we would have continued to have the support of the world community for far longer, and would have been able to put the troops in place to do it correctly. Yeah, land war in Asia and all that, but we were going to blow SOMEONE up. I just wish we'd focused on the (nominally) correct target.

I didn't join Fark until later that year. It almost instantly became my main source for news. I'm a different me now (on Fark and in real life), and it's odd how much of a role Fark still plays in my day-to-day knowledge of events. I CAN'T QUIT YOU, FARK!
2012-09-10 07:34:06 AM
2 votes:
Everyone woke up to the threat of Muslim and the need to wipe that out to ensure peace. Everyone who isn't in the Democrat party anyway.
2012-09-10 06:36:49 AM
2 votes:
2012-09-10 06:02:18 AM
2 votes:
I know exactly what online news looked like on 9/11 cause I spent the whole day refreshing this little site called Fark.com on my dial-up modem. I figured I maybe oughta register so I could chime in that day but they had this annoying 24-hour waiting period for new accounts, pain in the ass.

It changed a lot of lives, 9/11.
2012-09-10 04:38:13 PM
1 votes:
So fortunate social media wasn't around then.
2012-09-10 02:19:01 PM
1 votes:
Sigh. Even though I didn't have any friends or family perish in the attack, any time I watch video clips, read stories, or see pictures from that day, I weep like a child. I'm not sure why.
2012-09-10 12:57:47 PM
1 votes:

JimmyFartpants: I miss



So much this.  I can't stand the content of drudgereport.com, but I love the layout.  Even if he wrote is own articles... just links and a few pictures.  I know Fark has evolved a bit beyond that, but its essentially the same thing.  Links, text/images in the comments.
 
I'm not a luddite, I appreciate a lot of new technology- especially stuff going on with smart phones.  But damn, CNN, Fox, MSNBC are just un-usable nowadays.
2012-09-10 11:57:29 AM
1 votes:

Skirl Hutsenreiter: Of course, that was back before everyone had portable pocket computers. Whenever I remember how hard it was to get in touch with someone or find something out before smartphones, I feel like I'm living in a science fiction future.


You were stupid back then and you are stupid now.
2012-09-10 10:51:44 AM
1 votes:

Inigo: The Onion: "Holy farking shiat" Edition


This. List fails without The Onion, most reliable online media outlet of the era.
2012-09-10 10:50:18 AM
1 votes:

dahmers love zombie: I just wish we'd focused on the (nominally) correct target.


We did focus on the correct target. It became apparent that Osama was going to be a pursuit of years rather than weeks, so they pulled out the Clinton battle plan against Iraq. Iraq was the most ahead in terms of a nuke and they'd be willing to sell one to terrorists.

What we didn't know is the Muslims would band together to save the nuke tech. All of Iraq's supplies went across the boarder to Iran and their program jumped decades in a single year.

Invading Iraq strengthened Iran and probably Lebanon, but caused Libya to give up their nukes and later fall, caused Egypt to fall and is in the process of causing Syria to fall. If public support hadn't disappeared thanks to the communist media, North Korea would probably have fallen by now.
2012-09-10 10:47:03 AM
1 votes:

PanicMan: Is it just me, or does anyone else go into intentional information blackout on Sept 11? I remember it happening, I don't need to be reminded.


Right there with you. It's been 11 years, but I still remember it vividly. Frantically trying to find out if friends made it out before the towers fell, trying to get a hold of my mother who was supposed to fly on AA from Boston to LA later that day, and then getting the calls later that evening and over the next few days that friends/family did not make it out in time. And this is a feeling shared by thousands or maybe millions of other people in NYC.

For all the people that tell others to get over it and how it's been 11 years: fark you.

Seriously. fark you. You weren't there. Chances are, you didn't lose anyone. There are a lot of us that did and we're reminded of it every year with shiathead troll comments and the same sensitivity you give to a kid who scraped his knee.
2012-09-10 10:44:13 AM
1 votes:

Spartacus Finch: I will never forget the phone call that woke me up that morning. My de facto had left me on 2/11 and I'd been drunk and dirty in
every dive bar in San Francisco since. When the phone rang, I figured I was late for work, again. I wasn't expecting my rather reserved best friend to be yelling at me to "turn on my farkin TV". When I finally made out what he was yelling I asked what channel. Knew shiat was going down when he yelled back "it doesn't farking matter". My first image, when the screen flickered to life, was the second plane crashing into the second building.

About 10 days later I got another call that woke me up. I remember answering and joking " not another building?". Nope, one of my best friends, who I was meant to be out with that night to deal with recent separation, had been killed in a car accident.

fark, that was a great month.


Your de facto left you? Dive bars in San Fran?

Sounds like butt pirating.
2012-09-10 10:32:43 AM
1 votes:

BigLuca: I've always been amazed at how well Osama's plan worked. Kill a couple thousand people and we bankrupt the country, give up freedom, trample the constitution and pretty much abandon the American way of life. Well, that is hyperbole, but not by much, it's certainly headed in that direction.


Seriously. Those 19 guys are like the most successful people who have ever tried to destroy a world superpower, in proportion to their numbers. I imagine them with their 72 virgins laughing their asses off, while Hitler and Stalin are like, "Seriously? That's all it took? 19 casualties, and a couple boxcutters?"

The saddest part is that what they did isn't the reason it was an effective attack. Our response is what gave it significance long-term.
2012-09-10 10:25:04 AM
1 votes:
I miss that internet.
2012-09-10 10:16:41 AM
1 votes:

dopekitty74: hoho19: I was in the university center on my way to Chemistry II. I was walking past and a building exploded. I paused and watched for the remainder of the 4 minutes before class. I huffed it over to chemistry to see my teacher sobbing. She let us go and I spent the rest of the day watching on TV and the internet.

On 9/11/2006 my wife and I lost our first born son, Toby. That was very hard, because the day now has a much more sorrowful meaning to us.

12/7/2010 we lost our third born, Lucy. The two days America has been attacked are now days that my wife and I have lost children.

:(

So sorry to hear of your losses. My cat had kittens on sept 11, 2002 and one was stillborn. I always thought there was something very eerie about that, but you've got me beat

/hugs


We are working on turning it into a positive experience. Approximately 1% of all births are stillborn which is one stillborn birth every 20 minutes. In most cases, 40%, the cause of the stillbirth is unknown. For us we had a checkup the week before and were given a thumbs up, but maybe a day or two after that checkup was when the baby declined. We did not know until a week and a half later. There also is a lot of shame and guilt regarding still born children. A lot of women believe that it was their fault, they ate the wrong thing, they did the wrong thing, I sometimes blame myself for not having my wife go to the hospital the minute the contractions started, but sadly it wasn't my fault or hers. The baby probably died several days before that and it was the body's natural response to push the baby out. My wife and I would like to eventually speak to groups about our experiences and how shame and guilt shaped our lives afterwards. The measure of a strong person is the how they deal with a situation that can destroy them. We want to turn our tragedies into weapons to help others combat grief and shame so that they can also find strength and hope in the darkness of a situation like that.
2012-09-10 10:03:49 AM
1 votes:

way south: He didn't make us do anything we weren't already planning.


http://articles.cnn.com/1998-12-16/politics/1998_12_16_transcripts_cl i nton_1_saddam-hussein-unscom-iraq-strike?_s=PM:ALLPOLITICS

To quote Bill Clinton, December 16, 1998

Earlier today, I ordered Americas armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraqs nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.

Their purpose is to protect the national interest of the United States, and indeed the interests of people throughout the Middle East and around the world.

Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons.
2012-09-10 09:45:17 AM
1 votes:
First I read about it, was when the first plane had just crashed into the tower. I just got back from Toronto, sat down at the computer and was browsing fark. There was a "newsflash" regarding a possible plane strike and people were going on about it. And then the second plane hit and the talk changed. It was a horrible and sad day all rolled into one. The day my 3rd son was born (and who died 3 months later) and the day the world changed because some crazy inbred towel wearing f*ckers decided they wanted to start a war because. Just, f*cking because.

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Don't mind me. I've had a sh*tty morning already.
2012-09-10 09:42:33 AM
1 votes:
In 1999, I knew something like this was coming, but as to the when and how, I did not know. The scope off the attack was a lot bigger than I thought it would be, though.
2012-09-10 09:39:40 AM
1 votes:
I remember watching the whole thing online. Never had any problems with websites crashing or running slow but I guess I could get all dramatic about it and say that I was all rip-roaring down the hallway trying to get my information like motherfarker and PRONTO. I was tripping over chairs and pushing down old ladies trying to find a TV or SOMETHING so I could stick my stupid fat farking face inside of it watch the towers GO BOOM!!! I was SOOOOO pissed when the computer in the back office only had a 28k modem hooked up to it but all the farking phone lines were busy because everyone in the whole city was calling 911 even though I live in farking YAKIMA!!! WAT!? So I said screw that noise and, got in my car, and raced down to the local bar and pub internet cafe they had down the street where they served Starbucks coffee (back when they had the original mermaid logo remember?) SOOOOO long ago... Anyways, I broke inside that place and said TURN ON THE TV GODDAMMIT!!!! and everybody FREAKED. I was holding the hands of some hot women inside the bar and they were crying and we didn't know what the hell we were going to do we were under ATTACK!!!! I thought the world was going to cave in motherfarking half.

Holy shiat.

Never been so scared in my life.

God bless Facebook. We NEVER have to go through THAT shiat again.
2012-09-10 09:39:09 AM
1 votes:
Lee Greenwood ruined patriotism for Americans.
2012-09-10 09:27:24 AM
1 votes:
I was at work. Those not on direct deposit were told that they wouldn't be receiving their paychecks "until further notice." We learned about the attacks from the food truck driver about three hours later.

Later at Dennys after work I got so upset at the media. The constant replaying of the planes and the towers collapsing with the voiceovers were classic brainwashing. The only reason to do that was to whip people up into allowing otherwise unacceptable shiat to happen.

And that is exactly what happened.

\got all my news from Bob & Tom back in the day
\\so I was on the Fark audio feed
2012-09-10 09:20:54 AM
1 votes:
Truthfully, on the day of, I didn't think to look online at all. I was thoroughly glued to CNN, first scared to hear that more attacks would continue going westward across the US, and then after the towers fell, just desperate to get any information about what was happening downtown (see CSS below). It was only the day after, when I went to the office to try to distract myself, that I just wound up reading CNN, BBC, etc., hitting refresh like a crack-addicted monkey looking for still more news. When I got tired of that, I finally ended up driving down to one of the scenic lookouts on the Palisades Parkway, hanging out with a bunch of other folks and watching smoke waft into the air from the holes where the towers used to be.

CSS: My sister used to work across the street (north side) of WTC7, so after the second plane hit, I called to see if she was okay. She told me that they were being asked to move to the north side of her building, so she would have to call me back later. Later didn't come until about 5:30 in the afternoon, after she and a few coworkers ran/walked to a colleague's apartment in midtown and were finally able to get a phone call out to my brother-in-law to say she (and my unborn nephew) was safe. The day, bad as it was, at least ended well for us to go through personally. I still feel great empathy and sympathy for those who weren't so lucky.
2012-09-10 09:05:44 AM
1 votes:

schief2:

Wow, I'd forgotten just how much Yahoo's home page was an utterly crap-filled mess back in the day...even on 9/11.


i46.tinypic.com

It's still a crap-filled mess
2012-09-10 09:02:33 AM
1 votes:

Some Bass Playing Guy:
I suspect that a few generations from now, events like Pearl Harbor will simply be historical footnotes because nobody who was there will still be alive and and many of the children of those people will be gone too. Except to people with a specific interest in WW II or history in general.

In any case, I think most would agree, that 11 years still qualifies as a recent event. Especially since things are a lot different post 9/11 than they were pre 9/11.


As soon as you have kids in highschool not wanting to learn about it, it becomes passe' because they are the next wave of adults, consumers, talking heads, politicians.

Just turn off all media tomorrow. Take a day off from the screens, and go about your business.
In fact, think about how much has changed for better or worse since then.
But don't relive it.
Be outraged. Be outraged that you lost 2 of your constitutional rights, and the ability to enjoy your hard won liberties.
Be outraged that we are involved in wars that have nothing to do with 9/11/01 but that 09/11/01 is cited as the reason for those wars.
Be outraged that the blood of innocent people is being spilled over a knee jerk reaction to an incident that should have been brushed off as the cost of doing business as a free country.

Or keep farking that chicken, America. It's a long, swirly way down, the way you're headed now.
2012-09-10 08:50:07 AM
1 votes:

Carth: Some Bass Playing Guy: Ed Grubermann: Can we please move on? It's been eleven years.

11 years is still recent memory, especially considering that people still talk about events like Pearl Harbor when Dec. 7th rolls around. People will be talking about 9/11 for a long time.

For farkers who are in high school or college it must seem like ancient history. I still can't believe there are so many people who don't remember a time when America wasn't at war or what life was like when the average person couldn't name more than one terrorist group.


I suspect that a few generations from now, events like Pearl Harbor will simply be historical footnotes because nobody who was there will still be alive and and many of the children of those people will be gone too. Except to people with a specific interest in WW II or history in general.

In any case, I think most would agree, that 11 years still qualifies as a recent event. Especially since things are a lot different post 9/11 than they were pre 9/11.
2012-09-10 08:44:46 AM
1 votes:

Great_Milenko: Deep Contact: Realy sad day for all of us, well except for Cheney.

Look at the CNN page. McCain was beating the drumbeat for war even before the towers even collapsed..


To be fair, pretty much everyone was as soon as the second tower was hit and everyone realized that it wasn't some accident. I remember the general consensus was that there would be blood.
2012-09-10 08:43:38 AM
1 votes:

Some Bass Playing Guy: Ed Grubermann: Can we please move on? It's been eleven years.

11 years is still recent memory, especially considering that people still talk about events like Pearl Harbor when Dec. 7th rolls around. People will be talking about 9/11 for a long time.


For farkers who are in high school or college it must seem like ancient history. I still can't believe there are so many people who don't remember a time when America wasn't at war or what life was like when the average person couldn't name more than one terrorist group.
2012-09-10 08:33:33 AM
1 votes:
www.naderlibrary.com
2012-09-10 08:30:53 AM
1 votes:

Ed Grubermann: Can we please move on? It's been eleven years.


I found it quieter this year. The 9/11 anniversary snuck up on me. Am I the only one who thinks so?
2012-09-10 08:18:12 AM
1 votes:
I was sitting in 11th grade English. I was mesmerized by the explosion and collapse of the building, it was a beautiful disaster.

Then again my first memories of TV were that of being glued to Operation Desert Storm at 4-5ish years old. Then came OKC Bombing, Columbine, Kosovo War, 9/11, Shock and Awe, etc etc. I'm sure there were other events that filled the empty gaps, I was raised on explosions, war, and violence from Kindergarten - to my adult life
2012-09-10 08:16:26 AM
1 votes:

LuckPusher: It is also remarkable how irrelevant fark has become. It feels like a ghosttown here nowadays.


Really, dude? The original 9/11 thread a few links up had less than 400 comments. These days you get more than that from a Cracked article.
2012-09-10 08:12:27 AM
1 votes:
I'm still upset at Spain..


www.remezcla.com
2012-09-10 08:12:13 AM
1 votes:
2012-09-10 08:07:24 AM
1 votes:
I was right here... I lurked fark a little but 9/11 is what really hooked me. The link is bullshiat, all i was seeing of online news on 9/11 were error codes and server time outs. Fark was the only reliable place to get up to the minute news.

Ive been coming here way too damn long.
2012-09-10 07:53:39 AM
1 votes:
The fact that there was no Facebook or Twitter or any smartphones back then has actually occurred to me several times.

The clips on YouTube of those terrified calls from the Twin Towers on 9/11 to 9-1-1 remain one of the most frightening and upsetting things I've ever heard. I don't know if I would have a heart for someone live-Tweeting the entire thing from the 102nd floor only to have it abruptly end.

/RIP
2012-09-10 07:35:27 AM
1 votes:

Seth'n'Spectrum: AverageAmericanGuy: Everything that happened afterwards has been a complete reversal of the very cultural fabric that makes up this country. The America we lived in prior to 9/11 no longer exists. The date marks the moment we stopped looking upward and instead we turned our gaze inward and became fearful of the world around us.

Well, as some wisecrack once said:

"9/11 was a test of moral strength -- which America failed."


America failed that strength with the election of 2000.

Iraq would have happened even without 9/11, and it probably would have followed nearly the same
script.
2012-09-10 07:23:58 AM
1 votes:
Started donating to the ACLU that day. Wish I could say it helped...
2012-09-10 07:17:15 AM
1 votes:
So here we go with the anniversary coverage in real time, as it happened.

/It was the day my country began to manifest its batshiat insanity outwardly.
2012-09-10 07:09:49 AM
1 votes:
http://deslide.clusterfake.net/?o=html_table&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.networ kworld.com%2Fslideshows%2F2011%2F090611-buzzblog-sept11.html%3Fts3
2012-09-10 07:02:13 AM
1 votes:
Realy sad day for all of us, well except for Cheney.
2012-09-10 07:00:13 AM
1 votes:

Ed Grubermann: Can we please move on? It's been eleven years.


Perhaps you weren't listening when they said "NEVER FORGET".
2012-09-10 06:57:01 AM
1 votes:
What online news looked like: uncluttered, no annoying flash ads, no stupid slideshows interspersed with popover ads, no tons of sluggish Javascript...

Yeah things have certainly improved.
2012-09-10 06:34:45 AM
1 votes:

Ed Grubermann: Can we please move on? It's been eleven years.


I think we have to wait for the wars to catch up and the site to be completely up and running. Otherwise 9/11 is still kind of relevant.
2012-09-10 06:31:30 AM
1 votes:
www.johncell.net

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