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2012-09-10 10:50:28 AM  

ToeKnee666: The day the cable news ticker was born. Constant updates about how there was nothing new to report rolling across the bottom of your screen.


Actually, the infocrawl was well established prior to the 9/11 attacks; I remember the defining moment
for them being the Columbine attacks, but though their usage was generally confined to actual
breaking news/newsflash type stories.

9/11 is definitely what made them a permanent fixture, though.
 
2012-09-10 10:51:16 AM  
I was at work and they wouldn't let us use the internet. I had to wait until lunch to go home and watch anything. I was also frantically trying to call my friend in NYC but the lines were busy (of course) so I called her mom instead. Said friend was fine. I just remember being really pissed that our work just made us act like nothing was wrong and keep working.
 
2012-09-10 10:51:41 AM  

DjangoStonereaver: We then drive out to one of the outlet malls and went to Harry & David's to buy some moose much
for my inlaws...


What on earth is "moose much?"
 
2012-09-10 10:51:44 AM  

Inigo: The Onion: "Holy farking shiat" Edition


This. List fails without The Onion, most reliable online media outlet of the era.
 
2012-09-10 10:52:20 AM  

whenIsayGO: BigLuca: I've always been amazed at how well Osama's plan worked. Kill a couple thousand people and we bankrupt the country, give up freedom, trample the constitution and pretty much abandon the American way of life. Well, that is hyperbole, but not by much, it's certainly headed in that direction.

Seriously. Those 19 guys are like the most successful people who have ever tried to destroy a world superpower, in proportion to their numbers. I imagine them with their 72 virgins laughing their asses off, while Hitler and Stalin are like, "Seriously? That's all it took? 19 casualties, and a couple boxcutters?"

The saddest part is that what they did isn't the reason it was an effective attack. Our response is what gave it significance long-term.



Aaannnddd...boom goes the funny. Get out the shovels and swabs for the truth.
 
2012-09-10 10:53:17 AM  

bearcats1983: Jake Havechek: In 1999, I knew something like this was coming, but as to the when and how, I did not know. The scope off the attack was a lot bigger than I thought it would be, though.

That's pretty cryptic and broad. What made you think this? Assuming it was the bombing of the USS Cole?


The Palestinian Uprising was one of the things that perked my ears up.
 
2012-09-10 10:55:06 AM  

Alonjar: BolloxReader: I was at work. Those not on direct deposit were told that they wouldn't be receiving their paychecks "until further notice." We learned about the attacks from the food truck driver about three hours later.

Im really curious what you do for a living, where the Weeners to a terror attack is HOLD ALL THE PAYCHECKS!!!!11!1!! we'll them about the attacks in a few hours, just make sure none of those farks get paid for time they've worked.


Many companies outsource their paycheck printing and delivery. The WTC was mostly financial businesses.

/If you couldn't figure that out, you shouldn't be voting. FYI.
 
2012-09-10 10:56:01 AM  

Jake Havechek: bearcats1983: Jake Havechek: In 1999, I knew something like this was coming, but as to the when and how, I did not know. The scope off the attack was a lot bigger than I thought it would be, though.

That's pretty cryptic and broad. What made you think this? Assuming it was the bombing of the USS Cole?

The Palestinian Uprising was one of the things that perked my ears up.


And the embassy bombings. Plus bin Laden seemed very assured with his threats, it didn't sound like the usual "Great Satan" harangue full of boasting and bluster.
 
2012-09-10 10:56:32 AM  
Despite all the snark and armchair quarterbacking hindsight re: Iraq, the things I remember most about 9/11 are the amateur videos that slowly surfaced showing small slices of the horror of that day.

The one that gets me worst is the short video clip of the people being evacuated from tower 1 through the mezzanine. Panicked people everywhere being herded out of the building by firefighters through the 2 story lobby mezzanine...and hearing the bodies of jumpers hitting the roof just above having jumped 80 some stories above them.

Not many things bring tears to my eyes...but that one never fails for the sheer and utter awfulness of individual lonely deaths...and seeing the firefighters looking at one another knowing exactly what those loud impacts meant while most of the herded didn't seem to know.
 
2012-09-10 10:57:06 AM  
I feel safer.
 
2012-09-10 10:57:27 AM  

oldfarthenry: Nothing like hearing three engineers say `The buildings will hold up' then watching in horror as the towers fell.


Interesting, that. Lots of engineers thought the impacts were insufficient to bring the towers down.
 
2012-09-10 10:57:39 AM  

myrrh: DjangoStonereaver: We then drive out to one of the outlet malls and went to Harry & David's to buy some moose much
for my inlaws...

What on earth is "moose much?"


Grrr. Damn fingers.....

"Moose Munch" is the stuff the Gods eat in between servings of ambrosia, and is unfortunately linked
in my mind to the 9/11 attacks.
 
2012-09-10 10:58:16 AM  
Could it have been prevented beforehand? Who the hell knows. Could Pearl Harbor have been prevented? Hitler?
 
2012-09-10 10:58:47 AM  

dahmers love zombie: vudukungfu: Be outraged that the blood of innocent people is being spilled over a knee jerk reaction to an incident that should have been brushed off as the cost of doing business as a free country

Yeah, um, no. We'd never had anything of that magnitude happen here before. Hell, NOBODY had had a terrorist attack of that magnitude occur on a single day. Did we end up massively screwing the pooch with our overreaction? Yep. But saying "shrug it off" is probably a bit ignorant of mass psychology. If we'd done Afghanistan correctly, and ignored Iraq, we would have continued to have the support of the world community for far longer, and would have been able to put the troops in place to do it correctly. Yeah, land war in Asia and all that, but we were going to blow SOMEONE up. I just wish we'd focused on the (nominally) correct target.

I didn't join Fark until later that year. It almost instantly became my main source for news. I'm a different me now (on Fark and in real life), and it's odd how much of a role Fark still plays in my day-to-day knowledge of events. I CAN'T QUIT YOU, FARK!


In a nutshell, this is why people think Americans are retarded.
 
2012-09-10 10:59:08 AM  

RedVentrue: I remember wondering how the Gov. knew that Bin Laden was responsible so quickly, and being angry about all the price gouging that day.


Well it was his what 3rd or 4th try to take down the buildings. Too bad Clinton let him go when he was offered to be turned over to US custody.
 
2012-09-10 10:59:47 AM  

Alonjar:
Im really curious what you do for a living, where the Weeners to a terror attack is HOLD ALL THE PAYCHECKS!!!!11!1!!.


Nice. Love that Fark filter.
 
2012-09-10 10:59:49 AM  
Point of the FA: I'm still looking for it.
 
2012-09-10 11:00:49 AM  
Too bad Clinton let him go when he was offered to be turned over to US custody

That's a motherfarking lie.

Meanwhile, he was found and killed on Obama's watch, while Bush just didn't give a shiat.
 
2012-09-10 11:02:32 AM  

thisispete: [i48.tinypic.com image 850x81]

http://www.fark.com/comments/45086/


407? Wow.

I think slashdot's comments section reached into the thousands.

That was probably the last time slashdot was relevant.
 
2012-09-10 11:04:15 AM  

WMittensRomney: dahmers love zombie: vudukungfu: Be outraged that the blood of innocent people is being spilled over a knee jerk reaction to an incident that should have been brushed off as the cost of doing business as a free country

Yeah, um, no. We'd never had anything of that magnitude happen here before. Hell, NOBODY had had a terrorist attack of that magnitude occur on a single day. Did we end up massively screwing the pooch with our overreaction? Yep. But saying "shrug it off" is probably a bit ignorant of mass psychology. If we'd done Afghanistan correctly, and ignored Iraq, we would have continued to have the support of the world community for far longer, and would have been able to put the troops in place to do it correctly. Yeah, land war in Asia and all that, but we were going to blow SOMEONE up. I just wish we'd focused on the (nominally) correct target.

I didn't join Fark until later that year. It almost instantly became my main source for news. I'm a different me now (on Fark and in real life), and it's odd how much of a role Fark still plays in my day-to-day knowledge of events. I CAN'T QUIT YOU, FARK!

In a nutshell, this is why people think Americans are retarded.


Indeed. I'll just leave this here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_India_Flight_182

In terms of population ratios, it was almost precisely as deadly to Canada as 9/11 was to the U.S. and was about as badly handled in the aftermath.
 
2012-09-10 11:12:00 AM  
it worked a lot better on my phone... i remember that much. mobile slideshows with ibm crap are BRUTAL
 
2012-09-10 11:14:46 AM  

whenIsayGO: BigLuca: I've always been amazed at how well Osama's plan worked. Kill a couple thousand people and we bankrupt the country, give up freedom, trample the constitution and pretty much abandon the American way of life. Well, that is hyperbole, but not by much, it's certainly headed in that direction.

Seriously. Those 19 guys are like the most successful people who have ever tried to destroy a world superpower, in proportion to their numbers. I imagine them with their 72 virgins laughing their asses off, while Hitler and Stalin are like, "Seriously? That's all it took? 19 casualties, and a couple boxcutters?"

The saddest part is that what they did isn't the reason it was an effective attack. Our response is what gave it significance long-term.


Yep. The ultimate Streisand Effect.
It took a chimpanzee president to go full retard.
 
2012-09-10 11:16:15 AM  

Inigo: The Onion: "Holy farking shiat" Edition


American Life Turns Into Bad Jerry Bruckheimer Movie
SEPTEMBER 26, 2001 | ISSUE 37•34 | MORE NEWS

Not from the 11th, but yeah - The Onion summed up a lot that happened over the past few weeks better than any news agency.

Headlines like "U.S. Vows To Defeat Whoever It Is We're At War With".... "Massive Attack On Pentagon Page 14 News" etc.... really hit the spot.

"I always thought terrorists blowing shiat up would be cool," Martin continued. "Like, if the Pentagon was bombed, I figured they'd mobilize a special elite squadron of secret-agent ninjas, and half of them would be hot babes. How could I ever think that? This is actually happening, and it's just not cool at all."
 
2012-09-10 11:16:59 AM  
The internet where I worked at the time slowed to a crawl. I couldn't wait to get home to the TV. The walk home was eerie because there were no jets in the air at all, although later you would hear the distinctive sound of fighter planes high up from time to time.
 
2012-09-10 11:17:39 AM  

ToeKnee666: The day the cable news ticker was born.


No, it wasn't.
 
2012-09-10 11:19:11 AM  

Jake Havechek: The internet where I worked at the time slowed to a crawl. I couldn't wait to get home to the TV. The walk home was eerie because there were no jets in the air at all, although later you would hear the distinctive sound of fighter planes high up from time to time.


Yup; they were doing CAPs over DC for weeks afterwards. Unnerving, to say the least.
 
2012-09-10 11:20:29 AM  
Probably been mentioned up-thread, but most of the sites didn't look quite like that on 9/11, as they were forced to remove images and other extraneous items to serve pages without their servers bursting into flames.
 
2012-09-10 11:21:50 AM  

Bedstead Polisher: Ed Grubermann: Can we please move on? It's been eleven years.

Perhaps you weren't listening when they said "NEVER FORGET".


What was this thread about again? I forgot.
 
2012-09-10 11:27:48 AM  

Endive Wombat: Rockstone: I was in 2nd grade. I'm now a Freshman in college.

/CSB

I feel teh old.

I was an 18 year old freshmen in college. Now I am married and fat.



I too was an 18 year old freshman in college. Now I am married.
 
2012-09-10 11:29:45 AM  

Starfly: Endive Wombat: Rockstone: I was in 2nd grade. I'm now a Freshman in college.

I was an 18 year old freshmen in college. Now I am married and fat.

I too was an 18 year old freshman in college. Now I am married.


You sound fat.
 
2012-09-10 11:30:14 AM  
Ahhhh yes, it's THAT time of year again ! time to rip that scab off that has been trying to heal for so long, but no one will give it a frikkin rest. Yes people died, planes crashed, wars were started, move on people, move on and get over it already.
 
2012-09-10 11:31:02 AM  

Jake Havechek: Could it have been prevented beforehand? Who the hell knows. Could Pearl Harbor have been prevented? Hitler?


Not sure about Pearl Harbor, but Hitler could have DEFINITELY been prevented. If WWI were to have been just left alone once it ended, Germany would have continued it's extremely liberalizing trend before the hyperinflation set in from Woodie Wilson's "grand scheming". The only factor that allowed for some wild eyed extremist like Hitler to come to power was the extreme monetary crash, which he used the Jews, incorrectly, as a scapegoat.

Thanks Uncle Woodie!!!! You gave us Hitler (ya idiot bastid!)
 
2012-09-10 11:31:32 AM  
I remember wiring up a antenna using a length of cat5 in our tech support office to watch a tiny little TV set we had.

Still work there, but not in tech support.
 
2012-09-10 11:35:34 AM  

soporific: Confabulat: I know exactly what online news looked like on 9/11 cause I spent the whole day refreshing this little site called Fark.com on my dial-up modem. I figured I maybe oughta register so I could chime in that day but they had this annoying 24-hour waiting period for new accounts, pain in the ass.

It changed a lot of lives, 9/11.

Same here. Every other site pretty much crashed, while Fark had a few good backdoor links to up-to-the-minute news.


Fark & BBC were the only sites I could get that morning. Everything else was being crushed solid. I was in training at a new job with about a dozen others and they were all crowded around my computer as we kept scrolling through the Fark comments.
 
2012-09-10 11:35:52 AM  

Nick Nostril: Confabulat: I know exactly what online news looked like on 9/11 cause I spent the whole day refreshing this little site called Fark.com on my dial-up modem. I figured I maybe oughta register so I could chime in that day but they had this annoying 24-hour waiting period for new accounts, pain in the ass.

It changed a lot of lives, 9/11.

Same here, although I was a lurker at that time.

But, no FB or Twatter? Oh my, those really were the Dark Ages.


Brother
Actually I was in the same boat. I was a lurker until later during the decade. I was in the service at the time and working in an airfield in SanDiego. Though it was a fluke when seeing the first coverage on television. Woke up groggy, thought there was a fire at the WTC. Rode the bus to work, when I got there
somebody mentioned the second plane then it sunked in that it was intentional. Isn't this the first year the anniversary hits on a tuesday?
/Also remembered the Walken tag what happened to it?
 
2012-09-10 11:38:22 AM  

brigid_fitch: we kept scrolling through the Fark comments.


fark YOU, OSAMA!!!!
 
2012-09-10 11:39:40 AM  

I agree with you: Ahhhh yes, it's THAT time of year again ! time to rip that scab off that has been trying to heal for so long, but no one will give it a frikkin rest. Yes people died, planes crashed, wars were started, move on people, move on and get over it already.


Yes, but our whole New American Culture (tm), of being afraid of anything that appears foreign, eschewing every bit of Freedom our ancestors fought and died to secure us, having a hard-on for aggressive warfare/world police/grand chessboard/new great game, torture, extra-judicial killing and zero privacy is built on that one event. . .

You think they're going to let us move on from it? NOPE! Once we start to move on and heal from it, we might start questioning our completely insane response, and possibly start rolling back the Stasi-State.

The sad thing is that our own leaders are something of "unintended" (maybe) accomplices to the crime. The terrorists did the first part, and then our own government came in to make sure it terrorized us as much as possible, for as long as possible, and that our very way of life be ended forever to "keep us safe". The way to thwart a terrorist IS to forget what they've done. It's just like a serial killer who revels in the press after they're thrown in the slammer. You're giving them EXACTLY what they were hoping for.

Then again. .. BE AFRAID!!!! BAD GUYS UNDER EVERY ROCK!!
 
2012-09-10 11:40:16 AM  
i had moved to spain on september 10.
i had no idea wtf was happening as i hardly spoke any spanish.

really awful. the outcry of support was really striking too. good thing we never squandered it - that would have been unwise
 
2012-09-10 11:40:20 AM  

I agree with you: Ahhhh yes, it's THAT time of year again ! time to rip that scab off that has been trying to heal for so long, but no one will give it a frikkin rest. Yes people died, planes crashed, wars were started, move on people, move on and get over it already.


Uh-oh, folks, we got a lightning rod over here.
 
2012-09-10 11:41:45 AM  

StrangeQ: Bedstead Polisher: Ed Grubermann: Can we please move on? It's been eleven years.

Perhaps you weren't listening when they said "NEVER FORGET".

NEVAR!


PFFFFT, I remember the first time I heard that song I was hitting TAD orders for South Korea. I was station
in Atsugi when we where waiting for a "pound-jumper" to fly us to South Korea, They played a concert of this "artist" on the White House lawn broadcasted on the Pentagon channel. It was shiat then and is shiat now.
 
2012-09-10 11:42:55 AM  
After about 9:00 AM EST... I think all my pages looked like this...

secure.niceridemn.org
 
2012-09-10 11:44:14 AM  

myrrh: Confabulat: I spent the whole day refreshing this little site called Fark.com on my dial-up modem. I figured I maybe oughta register so I could chime in that day but they had this annoying 24-hour waiting period for new accounts, pain in the ass.

So ... you didn't bother registering until 2004?


Meh, I did the same thing. Reading Fark at work is enough of a time sink as it is. Joining in the conversation can eat up the better part of your day if you're not careful.

/Found Fark sometime in 1999/2000, after following a bored.com link.
//Didn't register until 2004
 
2012-09-10 11:47:38 AM  

gobstopping: I agree with you: Ahhhh yes, it's THAT time of year again ! time to rip that scab off that has been trying to heal for so long, but no one will give it a frikkin rest. Yes people died, planes crashed, wars were started, move on people, move on and get over it already.

Yes, but our whole New American Culture (tm), of being afraid of anything that appears foreign, eschewing every bit of Freedom our ancestors fought and died to secure us, having a hard-on for aggressive warfare/world police/grand chessboard/new great game, torture, extra-judicial killing and zero privacy is built on that one event. . .

You think they're going to let us move on from it? NOPE! Once we start to move on and heal from it, we might start questioning our completely insane response, and possibly start rolling back the Stasi-State.

The sad thing is that our own leaders are something of "unintended" (maybe) accomplices to the crime. The terrorists did the first part, and then our own government came in to make sure it terrorized us as much as possible, for as long as possible, and that our very way of life be ended forever to "keep us safe". The way to thwart a terrorist IS to forget what they've done. It's just like a serial killer who revels in the press after they're thrown in the slammer. You're giving them EXACTLY what they were hoping for.

Then again. .. BE AFRAID!!!! BAD GUYS UNDER EVERY ROCK!!


You do realize you're part of what you're critiquing, right?
 
2012-09-10 11:48:46 AM  

Lachwen: That was the fifth day of my sophomore year of high school. Officially, school went on as normal, but lots of kids didn't show up and none of the teachers even tried to do lessons; they pulled out all of the old TVs on carts and we watched the news all day. There was an assembly at some point, but I can't remember any of what the principal said. It was a surreal and terrifying day.


I was in college on the west coast. We only had a TV to watch the Simpsons over the air, but almost as soon as we were up someone's mom called to say we should turn on the news. We watched for an hour until we had a morning lecture. When we got there, the prof had a radio playing NPR and was telling students as they came in that if they had family in NY they should call home. Most everyone else slept in and so it was the first they'd heard of it. Some people just stayed in the lecture hall listening to the radio. We went back to the dorm to watch the TV coverage.

\Of course, that was back before everyone had portable pocket computers. Whenever I remember how hard it was to get in touch with someone or find something out before smartphones, I feel like I'm living in a science fiction future.
 
2012-09-10 11:53:43 AM  
Mr.Tangent:
If you could even get a site to load at all as they were all being bombarded with traffic. Some sites switched to a text only version and still had problems coping with all the traffic.

This was my experience. We couldn't find out shiat at work due to all news sites being Slashdotted, we had to go find a radio to know what was happening.
 
2012-09-10 11:54:34 AM  

Skirl Hutsenreiter: Lachwen: That was the fifth day of my sophomore year of high school. Officially, school went on as normal, but lots of kids didn't show up and none of the teachers even tried to do lessons; they pulled out all of the old TVs on carts and we watched the news all day. There was an assembly at some point, but I can't remember any of what the principal said. It was a surreal and terrifying day.

I was in college on the west coast. We only had a TV to watch the Simpsons over the air, but almost as soon as we were up someone's mom called to say we should turn on the news. We watched for an hour until we had a morning lecture. When we got there, the prof had a radio playing NPR and was telling students as they came in that if they had family in NY they should call home. Most everyone else slept in and so it was the first they'd heard of it. Some people just stayed in the lecture hall listening to the radio. We went back to the dorm to watch the TV coverage.

\Of course, that was back before everyone had portable pocket computers. Whenever I remember how hard it was to get in touch with someone or find something out before smartphones, I feel like I'm living in a science fiction future.


We watch portable porn wherever we go, and we have sandwiches in a can, and push-up pasta. We are in the Jetsons my friend
 
2012-09-10 11:57:29 AM  

Skirl Hutsenreiter: Of course, that was back before everyone had portable pocket computers. Whenever I remember how hard it was to get in touch with someone or find something out before smartphones, I feel like I'm living in a science fiction future.


You were stupid back then and you are stupid now.
 
2012-09-10 12:00:32 PM  

myrrh: oldfarthenry: Nothing like hearing three engineers say `The buildings will hold up' then watching in horror as the towers fell.

Interesting, that. Lots of engineers thought the impacts were insufficient to bring the towers down.


Why is that "interesting"? They were correct - the impacts were insufficient. The heat from the burning jet fuel, OTOH...
 
2012-09-10 12:02:59 PM  

invictus2: Nick Nostril: Confabulat: I know exactly what online news looked like on 9/11 cause I spent the whole day refreshing this little site called Fark.com on my dial-up modem. I figured I maybe oughta register so I could chime in that day but they had this annoying 24-hour waiting period for new accounts, pain in the ass.

It changed a lot of lives, 9/11.

Same here, although I was a lurker at that time.

But, no FB or Twatter? Oh my, those really were the Dark Ages.

Brother
Actually I was in the same boat. I was a lurker until later during the decade. I was in the service at the time and working in an airfield in SanDiego. Though it was a fluke when seeing the first coverage on television. Woke up groggy, thought there was a fire at the WTC. Rode the bus to work, when I got there
somebody mentioned the second plane then it sunked in that it was intentional. Isn't this the first year the anniversary hits on a tuesday?
/Also remembered the Walken tag what happened to it?


Happened once before, a while ago, but I remember it.
 
2012-09-10 12:03:23 PM  

Skirl Hutsenreiter: \Of course, that was back before everyone had portable pocket computers. Whenever I remember how hard it was to get in touch with someone or find something out before smartphones, I feel like I'm living in a science fiction future.


I had a portable pocket computer, it just wasn't connected to the internet 24/7, which is the big difference.
 
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