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2012-09-10 09:19:03 AM  
Well, after that asinine loss to Arizona, at least I still have "...at least we're not the Browns" to fall back on.
 
2012-09-10 10:00:48 AM  
He didn't set the ball on fire or try to eat it so I think I'm ready to declare him the greatest Browns QB of the modern era.
 
2012-09-10 10:03:39 AM  
i knew they were going to lose when i saw that. even with Vick trying to earn himself a Jake.
 
2012-09-10 10:51:49 AM  

SlothB77: i knew they were going to lose when i saw that. even with Vick trying to earn himself a Jake.


Lots of contenders for the Jake this week. Who ended up walking away with it?
 
2012-09-10 10:52:05 AM  
Cue the Jeff Garcia "Miss Me Yet?" sign...


/not to get all Jason Whitlock-Jeff George here, but are you telling me the Browns/Seahawks/Titans/Dolphins couldn't give that guy a 1- or 2-year contract and be better off while buying time to shop around for new QBs?
 
2012-09-10 10:56:51 AM  

IAmRight: Well, after that asinine loss to Arizona, at least I still have "...at least we're not the Browns" to fall back on.


Don't see how it's asinine. The Cardinals' defense is legitimately undervalued, evidenced enough by how many offensive and or special team (that throw away INT was hilariously bad, even for us) fark ups put them in short field situations. If anything, they've got plenty of practice with this sort of thing, too: Wilson was the third consecutive rookie QB to start against us for a season opener (Bradford and Newton the others, respectively). The Cardinals-Seahawk games were competitive last year, even in SEA, so I don't know where these predictions of utter routs were coming from.
 
2012-09-10 10:58:29 AM  
Obviously Vick felt badly for the rookie and tossed four picks of his own. Actually, Vick ought to have had five interceptions as the play right before Vick's winning toss should have been intercepted.
 
2012-09-10 11:00:48 AM  

MAYORBOB: Obviously Vick felt badly for the rookie and tossed four picks of his own. Actually, Vick ought to have had five interceptions as the play right before Vick's winning toss should have been intercepted.


Vick is just the latest benefactor of The Curse.
 
2012-09-10 11:02:23 AM  

Your Zionist Leader: SlothB77: i knew they were going to lose when i saw that. even with Vick trying to earn himself a Jake.

Lots of contenders for the Jake this week. Who ended up walking away with it?


Vick got a win, so not sure. Weeden has a strong case.
 
2012-09-10 11:02:47 AM  

Your Zionist Leader: SlothB77: i knew they were going to lose when i saw that. even with Vick trying to earn himself a Jake.

Lots of contenders for the Jake this week. Who ended up walking away with it?


Have to wait for tonight's games. However, IIRC, we have:

Luck: 3INT, 1FUM, loss
Wheedon: 4 INT, loss
Vick: 4 INT, win

All tied with 66.7. Vick had his 2/3 of A Bad Day against the Browns, but he won, so I'm not sure if that balances out. Luck would have lost another fumble, but it got called back on an offsides, and The Jake does not care for what-ifs.
 
2012-09-10 11:04:15 AM  
It isn't like he was TRAPPED under there. No fire department had to come and cut him out. He wasn't injured. Just because we've got another apparently stupid QB on the field is not enough cause to start making fun of the Browns all of a sudden!
 
2012-09-10 11:04:38 AM  
Leave it to the Browns to get flagged during warmups.
 
2012-09-10 11:05:49 AM  

MAYORBOB: Obviously Vick felt badly for the rookie and tossed four picks of his own. Actually, Vick ought to have had five interceptions as the play right before Vick's winning toss should have been intercepted.


DRC dropped what should have been his third pick too, though to be fair to the QBs there was a pick on each side that bounced off receiver's hands. That game was a total shiatshow.

Vick just has no vision. I don't know why the Eagles FO ever expected that to change. At least they're only on the hook for a couple million after this season.
 
2012-09-10 11:06:21 AM  

Harv72b: Leave it to the Browns to get flagged during warmups.


Awesome
 
2012-09-10 11:13:46 AM  
People forget that the run game was garbage as well. Additionally, what's going on with Joe Thomas? I don't know how many times in preseason and the game on Sunday that I've heard an announcer say "It's unlike Joe Thomas to get beat like that". A couple plays I say the DT literally run right by him.
 
2012-09-10 11:16:59 AM  
At least the Eagles defense played well. Now if only Reid would stop calling almost sixty run plays in a game where the other team can't stop the run, they'd be set.
 
2012-09-10 11:19:48 AM  

SilentStrider: At least the Eagles defense played well. Now if only Reid would stop calling almost sixty run plays in a game where the other team can't stop the run, they'd be set.


Going 5 or 6 plays in a row without a holding penalty would help, too.
 
2012-09-10 11:31:34 AM  

SilentStrider: At least the Eagles defense played well. Now if only Reid would stop calling almost sixty run plays in a game where the other team can't stop the run, they'd be set.


[quizzicaldog.jpg]

I don't know if Reid has called 60 run plays in a season before.
 
2012-09-10 11:34:14 AM  

Ted Kennedy's Brain Tumor: The Cardinals-Seahawk games were competitive last year, even in SEA, so I don't know where these predictions of utter routs were coming from.


I didn't think it'd be a rout, but f*ck, our WRs are back to dropping every potential game-winner in the end zone and our OC seems to think that backwards passes are acceptable to throw in the NFL, especially when the pressure is coming from the ends and our tackles are getting annihilated.

/giving up two TD drives is what I'm upset about. If you tell me that Peterson is completely limited in the return game and Fitzgerald is largely shut down to the extent he was, I'm assuming it was a blowout
//at least TRY to block a guy, o-line!
 
2012-09-10 11:51:58 AM  
I'm not sure which QB was worse in that game and that is really saying something about Vick.

/that something being he's awful
//I'm sure Browns fans are excited to watch another year of 10+ 10-3 losses thanks to a decent defense being hamstrung by a JV offense
 
2012-09-10 11:58:27 AM  

Ted Kennedy's Brain Tumor: IAmRight: Well, after that asinine loss to Arizona, at least I still have "...at least we're not the Browns" to fall back on.

Don't see how it's asinine. The Cardinals' defense is legitimately undervalued, evidenced enough by how many offensive and or special team (that throw away INT was hilariously bad, even for us) fark ups put them in short field situations. If anything, they've got plenty of practice with this sort of thing, too: Wilson was the third consecutive rookie QB to start against us for a season opener (Bradford and Newton the others, respectively). The Cardinals-Seahawk games were competitive last year, even in SEA, so I don't know where these predictions of utter routs were coming from.


Yeah, I've been thinking the Cards and their fans have to have a massive chip on their shoulder, considering they were one of the better teams in the NFL in the second half of last season, and no one's expecting them to do shiat this year. I mean, Bill Simmons, in the same column that he picks the Seahawks for the Super Bowl, picks the Cardinals to be the very worst team in the NFL. More commonly they're forecast for 5-11 or 6-10 and third place, and I have no idea why. They might be imperfect but they're a dangerous team. Their defense is going to keep them in games, with a consistent chance to win.
 
2012-09-10 12:38:43 PM  
Colt McCoy might have won that game.
 
2012-09-10 12:42:03 PM  
Drafting that idiot was a mistake, I've been saying it for months. We didn't need him, we needed better players still on the board, now we've wasted a first round pick on a washed up never-was. Something tells me that if you fail at pro baseball, you're going to fail at pro football too.

Although MJ might have made a great WR for the Bears if he'd wanted to.
 
2012-09-10 01:11:36 PM  

basemetal: Colt McCoy might have won that game.


ouch! ha.
 
2012-09-10 01:24:55 PM  
Perhaps foreshadowing his lack of field awareness, Weeden didn't notice what was going on until it was too late. He ducked down underneath the flag as the troops continued to unravel it and eventually found his way back to the sideline.

laughing and crying at the same time
the tears are real
did not expect the Browns too win, but the pulled off a spectacular Browns like defeat.
 
2012-09-10 01:38:40 PM  
Put me in the list of fans who doubted whether Weeden was a good pick or not. The Browns have huge holes on offense, particularly at WR, TE and guard, and the head office somehow thinks getting a QB who is nearly 30 years old, then naming him the starter for Game 1, was a good idea. It was clear after the first half that Weeden just wasn't seeing anything on the field; he airmailed throws, threw into double and triple coverage, and wasn't nearly as accurate as we'd been told he was.

Oh, let's not forget the horrible, horrible playcalling. Late in the 2nd quarter, the coach decides to let the offense just run out the clock and go into halftime with a tie. The Eagles had another idea, they called timeouts, got the ball back, then marched downfield for a TD. The Browns then got the ball back and only then did they try and move the ball, without any luck at all. When they took the lead thanks to a defensive TD, not going for the 2 point conversion meant the Eagles could win with a TD and point after, which of course they did.

/another long season looms ahead
 
2012-09-10 01:43:18 PM  

IAmRight: Well, after that asinine loss to Arizona, at least I still have "...at least we're not the Browns" to fall back on.


It was ex-Brown Braylon Edwards who dropped the game winning TD pass, so Ta-Daaaaa, you're now tainted by The Curse.

Join usssssssssss
 
2012-09-10 01:46:59 PM  
I'm not ready to give up on Weeden after one lousy game. That is all.
 
2012-09-10 01:51:36 PM  
I should go back to the day after the draft thread and find that idiot who was giving me shiat for saying the Browns will always be the Browns until they stop drafting like the Browns.
 
2012-09-10 03:04:18 PM  

cleveoh: IAmRight: Well, after that asinine loss to Arizona, at least I still have "...at least we're not the Browns" to fall back on.

It was ex-Brown Braylon Edwards who dropped the game winning TD pass, so Ta-Daaaaa, you're now tainted by The Curse.

Join usssssssssss


They shoulda kept T.O. and cut Braylon instead
 
2012-09-10 03:09:01 PM  

IAmRight: Ted Kennedy's Brain Tumor: The Cardinals-Seahawk games were competitive last year, even in SEA, so I don't know where these predictions of utter routs were coming from.

I didn't think it'd be a rout, but f*ck, our WRs are back to dropping every potential game-winner in the end zone and our OC seems to think that backwards passes are acceptable to throw in the NFL, especially when the pressure is coming from the ends and our tackles are getting annihilated.

/giving up two TD drives is what I'm upset about. If you tell me that Peterson is completely limited in the return game and Fitzgerald is largely shut down to the extent he was, I'm assuming it was a blowout
//at least TRY to block a guy, o-line!


Okay, so it wasn't just me staring blankly when I saw those laterals. That's reassuring.
 
2012-09-10 03:53:28 PM  

IAmRight: Well, after that completely predictable loss to Arizona, at least I still have "...at least we're not the Browns" to fall back on.



Wait...I did predict it.

Russell Wilson is who I thought he was.
 
2012-09-10 03:55:24 PM  

neuroflare: cleveoh: IAmRight: Well, after that asinine loss to Arizona, at least I still have "...at least we're not the Browns" to fall back on.

It was ex-Brown Braylon Edwards who dropped the game winning TD pass, so Ta-Daaaaa, you're now tainted by The Curse.

Join usssssssssss

They shoulda kept T.O. and cut Braylon instead


Or they should have realized that those guys are both hasbeens and weren't worth it.
 
2012-09-10 04:23:35 PM  

Ted Kennedy's Brain Tumor: Okay, so it wasn't just me staring blankly when I saw those laterals. That's reassuring.


I wish NFL rules were established by precedent in each game, that way when that fumble got challenged, we could point to the other plays and say "look, he threw it backwards to a guy that was about to get blown up on this play, too, and you didn't call it!"

PowerSlacker: Wait...I did predict it.

Russell Wilson is who I thought he was.


...and was still the best QB involved in the game despite Bevell seemingly doing everything he could to prevent any type of success and the line refusing to block anyone (though I suppose when, say, Lynch did pick up a block and destroy his defender, he got called for a phantom hold).

/though Kolb is always good in relief. Still 15 games to go, at least we know we can play a lot better.
 
2012-09-10 04:24:19 PM  

cleveoh: It was ex-Brown Braylon Edwards who dropped the game winning TD pass, so Ta-Daaaaa, you're now tainted by The Curse.


This is Seattle sports we're talking about, like we needed to be associated with Cleveland to fail at sports.
 
2012-09-10 05:33:08 PM  
Know who DIDN'T get trapped under the American flag pre-game?

RG3.
 
2012-09-10 05:45:13 PM  

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Know who DIDN'T get trapped under the American flag pre-game?

RG3.


If you believe Homgren (and you shouldn't, since he'll say anything right now to keep his job), they made a very competitive offer to get the #2 pick from the Rams. BUT... there was apparently some sort of "because they're besties" shenanigans going on between the Rams and Redskins, and Holmgren felt that the Rams simply just preferred trading the rights of RG3 there.

That being said, I was against the Weeden pick from the start. I would rather have had Reilly Reiff or David DeCastro for some help on our absolutely awful offensive line. Our guards are horrid, something we did nothing to address this offseason. Colt McCoy should be a backup, but at least he's a good backup. Weeden; who only looked good playing against awful Big 12 defenses, not ever huddling, working mostly out of the shotgun and throwing it to Justin Blackmon; was a bad pick and it was a worse idea to give him the starting job without him actually earning it.

Though I will admit that our defense looks miles better than I thought it would, and some of those picks (Hughes and Sheard in particular), are looking much better than I predicted. Dick Jauron continues to work his magic as a D-coordinator.
 
2012-09-10 07:03:53 PM  
The Jake is not won yet. Flacco has the ability to throw five INTs when his mood is just right. Dalton is wet behind the ears. And Phillip Rivers is a goddam LOCK to throw at least two interceptions and 75% likely to fumble once with two strange new OTs blocking. Rivers is always two snide comments away from a tantrum and losing all focus. That Jake is far from being claimed yet.
 
2012-09-10 08:28:08 PM  

lacydog: That being said, I was against the Weeden pick from the start. I would rather have had Reilly Reiff or David DeCastro for some help on our absolutely awful offensive line. Our guards are horrid, something we did nothing to address this offseason. Colt McCoy should be a backup, but at least he's a good backup. Weeden; who only looked good playing against awful Big 12 defenses, not ever huddling, working mostly out of the shotgun and throwing it to Justin Blackmon; was a bad pick and it was a worse idea to give him the starting job without him actually earning it.


Not a Browns fan, but I'm still blown away by the pick.

All of the reasons you said are accurate, but I thought "where are the Browns trying to go, and when are they going to get there?" I think the idea of riding a quarterback who will be in his early 30s by the time the Browns are even COMPETING for playoff spots (and that's being rather generous to the Browns) is, was, and forever will be stupid.

I mean, it may not have been a bad idea if they were drafting just an older QB who would have been the defacto #1 pick had he been 23 years old, with all the measurements and intangibles, but he wasn't even THAT good. Heck, even if they said "this guy is ready now, and so are we."
 
2012-09-10 08:32:23 PM  
And I think in 5 years, Browns fans are going to want to strangle someone when they see how good Russell Wilson becomes.
 
2012-09-11 04:04:52 AM  

puffy999: lacydog: That being said, I was against the Weeden pick from the start. I would rather have had Reilly Reiff or David DeCastro for some help on our absolutely awful offensive line. Our guards are horrid, something we did nothing to address this offseason. Colt McCoy should be a backup, but at least he's a good backup. Weeden; who only looked good playing against awful Big 12 defenses, not ever huddling, working mostly out of the shotgun and throwing it to Justin Blackmon; was a bad pick and it was a worse idea to give him the starting job without him actually earning it.

Not a Browns fan, but I'm still blown away by the pick.

All of the reasons you said are accurate, but I thought "where are the Browns trying to go, and when are they going to get there?" I think the idea of riding a quarterback who will be in his early 30s by the time the Browns are even COMPETING for playoff spots (and that's being rather generous to the Browns) is, was, and forever will be stupid.

I mean, it may not have been a bad idea if they were drafting just an older QB who would have been the defacto #1 pick had he been 23 years old, with all the measurements and intangibles, but he wasn't even THAT good. Heck, even if they said "this guy is ready now, and so are we."


And let's not forget that Weeden would have, by most accounts, been available with their second round pick if they wanted.

Here's to hoping I'm wrong.
 
2012-09-11 12:53:24 PM  

T.rex: I'm not ready to give up on Weeden after one lousy game. That is all.


Didn't you hear? This year, the NFL season is only 1 game long. Weeden is officially bad forever, and RGIII is the league MVP.

/I know there are *always* unsubstantiated declarations about who is proving what after week 1 in the NFL...it has just been getting under my skin this year.
//And I'm a Redskins fan
 
2012-09-11 01:23:57 PM  

my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food: Didn't you hear? This year, the NFL season is only 1 game long. Weeden is officially bad forever, and RGIII is the league MVP.


And the Baltimore Ravens win the Super Bowl based on the point differential tie-breaker.

/I'm okay with that.
 
2012-09-11 04:15:53 PM  

Bendal: When they took the lead thanks to a defensive TD, not going for the 2 point conversion meant the Eagles could win with a TD and point after, which of course they did.


...had they gone for 2, they'd've lost 17-15 rather than 17-16. That's how bad the O is.
 
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