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(New York Daily News)   Jay-Z confused by Occupy Wall Street, 'What are you fighting for?'   (nydailynews.com) divider line 44
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2012-09-09 04:47:11 PM
5 votes:
So a millionaire doesn't like the Occupy movement and doesn't understand what they want? Wow; farkin i105.photobucket.com subby.
2012-09-09 04:41:47 PM
4 votes:
I imagine Jay-Z feels confused about a lot of things.
2012-09-09 04:50:15 PM
3 votes:
He's got 99 problems but capitalism ain't one.
2012-09-09 07:03:40 PM
2 votes:

Xenomech: [www.thenation.com image 550x506]


amkon.net
2012-09-09 06:53:05 PM
2 votes:
Don't ask me I don't give a damn.
Next stop if Vietnam.
2012-09-09 06:20:23 PM
2 votes:
Oh and...

media.fukung.net
2012-09-09 06:06:33 PM
2 votes:
Maybe he thought it was just a fashion statement?

i.imgur.com
2012-09-09 06:03:16 PM
2 votes:

jim32rr: FloydA: So a millionaire doesn't like the Occupy movement and doesn't understand what they want? Wow; farkin [i105.photobucket.com image 54x11] subby.

Admins got you down? Can't get anything greenlit, so you come in whining over the submissions of others? Well that's ahh something


Welp, at least FloydA isn't an ignorant, cumstained farktard. Not that I'm calling anyone else in this thread an ignorant, cumstained farktard. I'm just saying that FloydA isn't one.
2012-09-09 05:42:27 PM
2 votes:

FloydA: So a millionaire doesn't like the Occupy movement and doesn't understand what they want? Wow; farkin [i105.photobucket.com image 54x11] subby.


Admins got you down? Can't get anything greenlit, so you come in whining over the submissions of others? Well that's ahh something
2012-09-09 04:54:43 PM
2 votes:
Area Man Reaping Benefits Of Contorted Economic System Confused By Critics Of System
2012-09-09 04:52:06 PM
2 votes:

The My Little Pony Killer: I imagine Jay-Z feels confused about a lot of things.


We get it He's black.
2012-09-09 04:46:03 PM
2 votes:
$99 Trillion problems?
2012-09-09 09:00:21 PM
1 votes:

fark'emfeed'emfish: I know that the words I'm writing now, those that you've written, and quite often those that you read out in the real world, are black displayed on a white background. This does not mean that the world at large is black and white. Occupy is not anti-corporation, it is pro-human.


well, if they are pro-human and that is their focus, shouldn't they be out protesting against SkyNet?
2012-09-09 08:52:31 PM
1 votes:
Are these OWS people still active?

Aren't they aware that they are just hypocritical as the Tea Partiers who have the audacity to protest government spending while using government roads? Clearly they haven't gotten the memo that they can only protest injustices if and only if they satisfy the consistency requirement of arbitrary netizens.
2012-09-09 08:32:45 PM
1 votes:

joshiz: doyner: OWS wanted that paradigm to be dismantled.

How's that working out for you?

I'm really not trying to be snarky but to my point above, it doesn't seem like there was ever a clear strategy on how to get there


And, once you're There, how do you control human greed.? There is nothing more amusing to and greedy man than ramming it up high and breaking it off short to some dim-witted "idealist" with a 'degree' in socialism.



I realize that OWS wants everyone except themselves to return to the woods and forage on nut and berries.

OWS is, after all, the spectacularly intellectual Ubermench who can do better than anyone else with Pure Marxism.

Those stupid Russians, Cubans, North Koreans? Too stupid

A sophmore from Yale can do it MUCH better, as long as daddy, the investment banker, keeps sending the checks...

 

I prefer another Eugenic Solution. Announce a huge protest at Camp Perry, Ohio. Shoot, shovel, shut up.. The national IQ will jump up, and we might even get some of the slower Democrats...

2012-09-09 08:31:08 PM
1 votes:
Think of it like this: The Occupy movement is like the Nets, and money is like wins. Except there is a slight chance that some of those people may one day get lucky and get money.
2012-09-09 08:24:03 PM
1 votes:

One Bad Apple: The My Little Pony Killer: I imagine Jay-Z feels confused about a lot of things.

We get it He's black.


Well done.
2012-09-09 07:45:38 PM
1 votes:

Beaver Knievel: Silly Jesus: Because People in power are Stupid: [treygivens.com image 497x327]

Ooh, ooh, I know the answer....

What is, the Tea Partiers weren't breaking any laws, Alex?

Also, the Tea Partiers weren't crapping in buckets and throwing it in the streets. (As someone who has to walk to work, that scores high on my list.)


You mean that doesn't build credibility?
2012-09-09 07:00:33 PM
1 votes:

rewind2846: FTA: "He said Occupy Wall Street's blanket demonization of the rich is un-American."

While he knows how to make money (most crack dealers do), he should really take some time to read a few newspapers from say 2000 onwards.
No one is 'demonizing' the rich. Plenty of rich people out there who don't catch flack because they are not greedy amoral assholes. Plenty of poor amoral assholes out there as well, but the rich ones do more damage.

Here's a hint Jay-Z - take some time and sit down with your friend and fellow businessman Russell Simmons, and let him explain all this to you. It may take awhile, but it may also break you out of the bubble you seem to be in. Remember how it was when you were hustling the streets, and you will remember how the 99% feels now.


Here's a hint OWS: if you can't get someone who grew up in the projects to understand what you're doing, the problem is with you, not the other guy. If you're out there supposedly "getting out the message" and nobody knows what you're doing, don't get mad with everyone else. Don't blame their ignorance, don't blame the "corporate media', blame yourself. You have failed.

This is not to say that your intentions weren't honorable, or even that your position was wrong. It's just that your strategy and tactics have been horrible and you've managed to alienate the very people you were supposed to be recruiting to your side.

Welcome to the real world, you little snowflakes. This crap happens all the time, and in the end, there will be no "participant" medals passed out to anyone who showed up.
2012-09-09 06:58:29 PM
1 votes:
James F. Campbell:
I actively avoid submitting links or saying anything too important on Fark, because anything you submit or post on Fark becomes their property to do with as they wish. fark that shiat. I will be paid for my work.

That's simply BRILLIANT. The best of it is that such a careful plan to husband your resources is completely indistinguishable from you not having anything to say. Sheer genius.
2012-09-09 06:55:02 PM
1 votes:
cman:
There are a lot of racists in the tea party. Surely they do not represent the Tea Party like these anti-capitalists do, right?

Don't they? The TEA Party was organized to combat what was seen as over-taxing and over-spending of government. Now, if Karl Denninger, founder of the TEA Party, gave an interview in which he stated that the purpose of the TEA Party was to "purify the races in America," or some similar shiat, I would believe him. Why would I not? As it is, however, there are a couple of morons who show up at PUBLIC rallies for the TEA Party with racist signs, who are are politely asked to fark themselves, and get that shiat out of the rally -- but, of course, not before every photographer within 20 miles has taken a picture of the offensive sign.

Above, I link to an interview with the organizer of OWS, who clearly states the goal of replacing capitalism in the United States. Again, why would I not believe his stated goals?
2012-09-09 06:47:48 PM
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: SweetSaws: Because People in power are Stupid: [treygivens.com image 497x327]

"weaponized" tear gas, because it's normally not used as a weapon

Sounds more dramatic that way...

WEAPONIZED GUN

WEAPONIZED OC SPRAY

WEAPONIZED BATON

WEAPONIZED WEAPON

WEAPONIZED KITTEN

See, makes everything 10X more scary.


Now I won't be able to sleep. THANKS A LOT!
2012-09-09 06:46:08 PM
1 votes:

The My Little Pony Killer: I imagine Jay-Z feels confused about a lot of things.


But a biatch ain't one.

Why does it surprise people someone that worked hard to get his money doesn't get what they are protesting?

The 99% are still under the impression a college degree instantly means Mega salary once you graduate, adapt to get ahead, that may mean you have to bust your ass to get where you want to be.
2012-09-09 06:45:30 PM
1 votes:
Hey guys OWS was at least a partial success. I mean, absurd and lifelong indenturing college costs were mentioned, so the feds decided to raise interest rates on student loans. See everything is better now!
2012-09-09 06:41:07 PM
1 votes:

SweetSaws: Because People in power are Stupid: [treygivens.com image 497x327]

"weaponized" tear gas, because it's normally not used as a weapon


Sounds more dramatic that way...

WEAPONIZED GUN

WEAPONIZED OC SPRAY

WEAPONIZED BATON

WEAPONIZED WEAPON

WEAPONIZED KITTEN

See, makes everything 10X more scary.
2012-09-09 06:39:10 PM
1 votes:
2012-09-09 06:38:56 PM
1 votes:
He'll still vote for Obama.
2012-09-09 06:38:52 PM
1 votes:
FloydA:
I've never won a Pokemon championship.

Well, then, mister, you've got a lot of nerve posting in the Politics thread... 

www.annarbor.com
You don't have to WIN, but you need to TRY. 
2012-09-09 06:34:44 PM
1 votes:
FTFA: He said Occupy Wall Street's blanket demonization of the rich is un-American.

Says the crack dealer turned rapper and then multimillionaire (while still dealing with drugs, don't give me shiat about it being music made money only).
2012-09-09 06:34:02 PM
1 votes:

GeneralJim: FloydA: OWS is not a protest against capitalism, so your critique doesn't have quite the strength that it might.

When the ref calls out a player for cheating, the ref is not raging against the sport.
A large number of the protesters, when interviewed, claimed they DID want to end capitalism.

But, much of OWS was co-opted by the Democrats. "We hate banks, re-elect Obama" treads that fine line between simple stupidity and organic brain damage. OWS becoming a leisure service of the Re-Elect Obama campaign makes EXACTLY as much sense as the KKK demanding that Obama be re-elected because they want a white man back in the White House.

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There are a lot of racists in the tea party. Surely they do not represent the Tea Party like these anti-capitalists do, right?
2012-09-09 06:32:07 PM
1 votes:

joshiz: How can you reconcile raging against capitalism using the byproducts of that system (computers, social media)?


Huh? Thats like saying I can't put any objections in writing using pen and paper due to using "byproducts of that system"

Shall I make clicking noises and use smoke signals and drum beats then?
2012-09-09 06:28:35 PM
1 votes:

Apos: He's got 99 problems but capitalism ain't one.


This.
2012-09-09 06:18:23 PM
1 votes:
assets.amuniversal.com
2012-09-09 06:14:13 PM
1 votes:

One Bad Apple: We get it He's black a rapper.


FTFY, no charge.
2012-09-09 06:13:28 PM
1 votes:

James F. Campbell: jim32rr: FloydA: So a millionaire doesn't like the Occupy movement and doesn't understand what they want? Wow; farkin [i105.photobucket.com image 54x11] subby.

Admins got you down? Can't get anything greenlit, so you come in whining over the submissions of others? Well that's ahh something

Welp, at least FloydA isn't an ignorant, cumstained farktard. Not that I'm calling anyone else in this thread an ignorant, cumstained farktard. I'm just saying that FloydA isn't one.


I've got no idea who this guy is; he apparently went straight into my iggy list because I have no recollection of him whatsoever. He seems to be under the impression that my ego is vested in the number of greenlights I've had. It's amusing to me because, in the 9 years I've been on Fark, I have only submitted two links. He might just as well try to insult me for the fact that I don't have any CMT country music awards and I've never won a Pokemon championship.
2012-09-09 06:12:41 PM
1 votes:
I don't know what a "Jay-Z" is, but I'ma guess the Occupiers are fighting against it.
2012-09-09 06:11:34 PM
1 votes:
Is that guy unable to grow facial hair?
2012-09-09 06:02:52 PM
1 votes:

joshiz: cman: Problem is is that others took this movement and piled on their own causes instead of just sticking with the original idea. Thats where OWS lost the war.

I'll take that.

FloydA: OWS is not a protest against capitalism, so your critique doesn't have quite the strength that it might.

Ok, fair enough. Then answer Jay-Z's question: What are you fighting for?


Me? I'm not part of OWS. (I'm mainly fighting to get my students to avoid TXTSPEEK in their term papers, and it's a losing battle.)

OWS? They are fighting for regulations that would decentralize the concentration of power and influence from the banks and a few corporations to the broader population of citizens. They have a number of specific grievances, but they all boil down to the fact that, due to an extreme concentration of wealth, the boards of directors of a few banks and multinational corporations exert influence over the political, judicial, and regulatory systems in this country (and elsewhere) that is far in excess of their numbers, and in doing so, they subvert the democratic process.

For the past year, the corporate media have been repeating the claim that OWS doesn't have a coherent message, and now Jay-Z is repeating the same line, but that claim has never been accurate. They've been quite clear what the movement is about.

(There are, of course, other people who show up wanting to advocate for other issues. At any protest of sufficient size, there are going to be people who jump in and try to get their pet causes attached to a larger movement. But those hangers on do not alter the central message of the movement.)
2012-09-09 05:40:21 PM
1 votes:

joshiz: Ok, fair enough. Then answer Jay-Z's question: What are you fighting for?


We have a system whereby if the corporation is large enough, it enjoys private profit and public risk. OWS wanted that paradigm to be dismantled.
2012-09-09 05:21:25 PM
1 votes:
Tom_the_Dancing_Bug_"Economic_Injustice".jpg
2012-09-09 05:19:13 PM
1 votes:

joshiz: cman: Thats who OWS is fighting against.

I have to agree with Jay-Z. What is your goal? What have you accomplished?

How can you reconcile raging against capitalism using the byproducts of that system (computers, social media)?

When 'The Man' cleared you out, you all just gave up? Why?

I'm all for organizing and protesting against a cause. But OWS just seems like misguided rage. Or even guided, ADHD rage that moved on to something else.


OWS folk had good intentions when they started out. They had a clear goal, to make the Wallstreet bankers pay for all the misery that OWS perceived that the bankers brought. Problem is is that others took this movement and piled on their own causes instead of just sticking with the original idea. Thats where OWS lost the war.
2012-09-09 05:09:48 PM
1 votes:

cman: Thats who OWS is fighting against.


I have to agree with Jay-Z. What is your goal? What have you accomplished?

How can you reconcile raging against capitalism using the byproducts of that system (computers, social media)?

When 'The Man' cleared you out, you all just gave up? Why?

I'm all for organizing and protesting against a cause. But OWS just seems like misguided rage. Or even guided, ADHD rage that moved on to something else.
2012-09-09 04:42:13 PM
1 votes:
In other news, the "occupy" movement? What's that, some sort of real estate thing?

Oh, THAT old thing.... That's still around? What? It isn't? Oh....
2012-09-09 04:36:56 PM
1 votes:
"It's all about the Benjamins."
 
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