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(Wheels.ca)   Crash-proof cars coming soon?   (wheels.ca) divider line 49
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2835 clicks; posted to Business » on 09 Sep 2012 at 5:24 PM (2 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2012-09-09 04:23:35 PM  
They don't start if a woman is sitting in the driver's seat?

/Ducks
//Also DNRTFA
 
2012-09-09 05:16:28 PM  
Expect your insurance rates to triple if you don't install this.
 
2012-09-09 05:33:41 PM  
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2012-09-09 06:35:46 PM  
Will they limit cars to the posted speed limit?

Most cities will go broke.
 
2012-09-09 06:41:30 PM  
But in the event of a potential crash - a vehicle unexpectedly braking, a sudden lane change or merging traffic, for example - some drivers will be given a visual or audible warning.

Just in case the driver doesn't see the situation developing through the windshield or hear the squeal of brake-locked tires on pavement, I guess.
 
2012-09-09 06:45:02 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: They don't start if a woman is sitting in the driver's seat?


No amount of computer power can overcome a determined woman...

www.funtoosh.com

/isle seat, please...oh, and I'll take the Kosher
 
2012-09-09 07:10:00 PM  
Reminded of an old futurist sci-fi story by Larry Niven, 'Safe At Any Speed', in which cars (flying ones, of course) are guaranteed against adverse circumstances. The character in the story finds that when the car is swallowed by a giant bird, the warranty becomes void. D'oh!

/Murphy's Law will always win in the end.
 
2012-09-09 07:15:40 PM  
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at or repair"

/But it is Mostly Harmless
 
2012-09-09 07:30:34 PM  
I read about something a couple of years ago they were piloting...basically, when you got on the highway, you could engage an autopilot type device....your vehicle would link up bumper to bumper with the car in front and form a sort of "auto train", leading to increased fuel efficiency and so on.

I'm sure this idea got ditched when they realized how farked everyone would be when the car in front blew a tire.

/yeah, I have nothing of value to contribute here.
 
2012-09-09 07:47:02 PM  
I had to do a double-take on this tagline from the article. I read it as:

"Vehicles communicate wirelessly to help predict imminent collisions and woman drivers to take action. Soon, the cars may take action automatically."
 
2012-09-09 08:41:03 PM  
Will they turn you in to a cannoli?
 
2012-09-09 08:44:17 PM  
Since this would require crash-proof software, I'm gonna go with not bloody likely, old chap
 
2012-09-09 09:00:52 PM  

Gunny Walker: "The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at or repair"

/But it is Mostly Harmless


CFIT - 'Controlled Flight Into Terrain', a lovely euphemism for an unlovely event, is nicknamed 'Computerized Flight Into Terrain', for just this reason. As automation takes over more functions in the cockpit, flight crews are becoming less adroit at dealing promptly with weird or unexpected occurrences.

Which do, alas, transpire on big heavy metal machines flying high in the sky.
 
2012-09-09 09:37:35 PM  

CFIT - 'Controlled Flight Into Terrain', a lovely euphemism for an unlovely event, is nicknamed 'Computerized Flight Into Terrain', for just this reason. As automation takes over more functions in the cockpit, flight crews are becoming less adroit at dealing promptly with weird or unexpected occurrences.


If we could get our auto fatality/injury level down to that of our airplanes (the big, robo-piloted ones, not the stupid civilian ones) we'd be golden.
 
2012-09-09 10:23:47 PM  

Pestifer: CFIT - 'Controlled Flight Into Terrain', a lovely euphemism for an unlovely event, is nicknamed 'Computerized Flight Into Terrain', for just this reason. As automation takes over more functions in the cockpit, flight crews are becoming less adroit at dealing promptly with weird or unexpected occurrences.


If we could get our auto fatality/injury level down to that of our airplanes (the big, robo-piloted ones, not the stupid civilian ones) we'd be golden.


Living in one city for three years I've seen around fifteen crashes, one of which I was literally on the road by it when it happened. Dolt took the crazy off-ramp corner to fast and went down the hill. I pity the fool.
 
2012-09-09 11:02:37 PM  
I'd rather have a crash proof financial industry.

Unfortunately there's profit to be made in causing that sort of crash.
 
2012-09-09 11:13:29 PM  
They won't have windows?
 
2012-09-09 11:22:02 PM  
You can't make an idiot-proof car because we keep making better idiots.
 
2012-09-09 11:23:36 PM  
Not crash proof, but repair is as simple as molding clay.

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2012-09-09 11:29:27 PM  
Among other things, it won't be crash proof until they can outfit all wildlife with the a V2A (vehicle to animal) communication system.
 
2012-09-09 11:34:16 PM  
People will just start driving more recklessly, safe in the knowledge that their cars will prevent them from harm
 
2012-09-10 12:58:40 AM  

Lost Thought 00: People will just start driving more recklessly, safe in the knowledge that their cars will prevent them from harm


I've been thinking we need to bring back the stocks for persistently poor drivers.
 
2012-09-10 01:14:03 AM  

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: I'm sure this idea got ditched when they realized how farked everyone would be when the car in front blew a tire.


Personally, I think that would be a scenario easily handled with proper programming. Assuming a FWD car - rear tire blows, not a big problem, the whole train brakes smoothly to a stop, disconnecting from the lead car at around 5mph, which then moves to the side and the train moves on(assuming the front car hits the 'I'm fine button' and assistance is already on the way). Front tire - automatic steering to maintain heading, back cars disconnect in less than a second and ALL brake a touch harder than the front.
 
2012-09-10 02:23:18 AM  
Very Orwellian.
 
2012-09-10 02:30:11 AM  
Exactly what I always wanted, Ray LaHood in control of my car making sure I produce less carbon emissions.

I can see it now, pulling out into the passing lane, hit the gas, and the little crash avoidance light comes on and no acceleration.

And the next thing Im thinking is that its not going to be very hard to hack into a traffic control system written by the government.
 
2012-09-10 03:13:25 AM  
It'll happen soon. Google has shown that with enough clout it can happen. The question is how far is anyone willing to take the self-driving car?
 
2012-09-10 03:24:15 AM  
Mercedes pretty much has this already. Distronic and Pre-safe brake.
 
2012-09-10 06:51:08 AM  

Mrbogey: You can't make an idiot-proof car because we keep making better idiots.


Are you talking about the drivers, or the guys that are supposed to write code for this thing?
 
2012-09-10 07:11:34 AM  
people are idiots. i live by an intersection with a Stop sign. once a week police park on road by my house and catch folks driving through the Stop. over and over again. the cop car will go ticket someone, come back and do it 3 or 4 more times in one evening. this has been going on for years. people are morans.
 
2012-09-10 08:17:55 AM  

Ebbelwoi: Mercedes pretty much has this already. Distronic and Pre-safe brake.


Most of Benz's stuff is about protecting the occupants in the event of imminent crash, not preventing the crash. Even the predictive braking is limited to something like 50% to reduce the impact rather than to necessarily avoid it.

Most of the big manufacturers have something like that now. Actually avoiding the crash altogether by having the cars talk to each other is the next step.

Despite the Luddites and conspiracy theorists in this thread hemming and hawing about it, it's pretty cool stuff. It wasn't all that long ago that we didn't even have air bags, now we have computers in cars doing enough calculations to effectively simulate a crash before it happens and take the steps necessary to mitigate the impact on occupants and next we could be talking about cars that are too smart to crash into one another.
 
2012-09-10 08:40:59 AM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Ebbelwoi: Mercedes pretty much has this already. Distronic and Pre-safe brake.

Most of Benz's stuff is about protecting the occupants in the event of imminent crash, not preventing the crash. Even the predictive braking is limited to something like 50% to reduce the impact rather than to necessarily avoid it.

Most of the big manufacturers have something like that now. Actually avoiding the crash altogether by having the cars talk to each other is the next step.

Despite the Luddites and conspiracy theorists in this thread hemming and hawing about it, it's pretty cool stuff. It wasn't all that long ago that we didn't even have air bags, now we have computers in cars doing enough calculations to effectively simulate a crash before it happens and take the steps necessary to mitigate the impact on occupants and next we could be talking about cars that are too smart to crash into one another.


With Ladar you don't really even need the cars to talk to each other... this takes care of the random asshole deer problem too. Communicating cars would be better for traffic flow tho.
 
2012-09-10 08:47:28 AM  
Looks like I'm going to have to find a country place that no one knows about and put away a Barchetta.
 
2012-09-10 09:22:58 AM  
As long as they're developing cars that talk to each other I want one that says "Left lane is for passing so get the mother lovin' fark out of the way!"
 
2012-09-10 09:28:55 AM  
Awesome, now I can text all I want while driving.
 
2012-09-10 10:03:01 AM  
Value of a self driving car:
Average Annual Mileage: 15k. Average Speed: Let's say 35mph. 430 hours of driving a year. This is better than 10 work weeks a year.
Let's say that you value your time at $10/hour. Whether you do some telecommuting, read a book, whatever. That's $4,300/year from saved time.

Insurance: Let's say the pilot isn't perfect, but up in the 90th percentile. Average cost for insurance right now is $1.6k/year. Let's say you save half of it - $800
Mileage: With an autodriving car, it should optimize fuel efficiency. 30 mpg($4k) to 32 mpg($1875). Call it $100.

That's a bit more than $5k/year. If the system lasts 5 years without major expenses, that's $25k, or about the cost of a decent car.
 
2012-09-10 10:24:03 AM  
Interesting. A prospective future car could be described as "self-driving" and/or "crash-proof". The spin for and against each perspective will be fun to watch.
 
2012-09-10 10:25:33 AM  
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Photo of a crash proof car.

/hot
 
2012-09-10 10:32:36 AM  
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First things first
 
2012-09-10 10:57:12 AM  

archichris: Exactly what I always wanted, Ray LaHood in control of my car making sure I produce less carbon emissions.

I can see it now, pulling out into the passing lane, hit the gas, and the little crash avoidance light comes on and no acceleration.

And the next thing Im thinking is that its not going to be very hard to hack into a traffic control system written by the government.


We are coming for you and your greenhouse gas creating habits. You will not be able to resist and we will write government tracking programs for everything! You will not be free and the Great LaHood shall have the right of prima nocte on all of your daughters!

/I get sloppy seconds
 
2012-09-10 11:42:45 AM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Looks like I'm going to have to find a country place that no one knows about and put away a Barchetta.


You could always take it out for A Nice Morning Drive.
 
2012-09-10 11:44:38 AM  
I do not want to be in a machine that makes decisions for me. I am liable for its operation and only want to be liable for my mistakes. I do not have the cash to out-lawyer a car company and prove it wasn't me.
 
2012-09-10 11:51:41 AM  
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2012-09-10 03:19:56 PM  
Came for "Demolition Man" pic. Leaving disappointed.
 
2012-09-10 03:33:51 PM  
That's great, but what about the hundreds of thousands of cars on the roads that aren't equipped? What about the collector car market? What about the used car market?
 
2012-09-10 04:04:14 PM  
*hits button on custom hardware kit and watches all the cars on the road scream to a halt with auto-braking*
 
2012-09-10 04:13:39 PM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Looks like I'm going to have to find a country place that no one knows about and put away a Barchetta.


That one song has more plot than most Michael Bay movies.
 
2012-09-10 06:57:32 PM  

SixPaperJoint: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Looks like I'm going to have to find a country place that no one knows about and put away a Barchetta.

You could always take it out for A Nice Morning Drive.


Try telling me that SUV doesn't stand for Modern Safety Vehicle.
 
2012-09-10 09:06:30 PM  
Fine by me. Just take me where I want to go.

Bonus: not having to deal with bad drivers.
 
2012-09-10 10:43:18 PM  

GooseMeat: [t0.gstatic.com image 259x194] 

Photo of a crash proof car.

/hot


Those crash all the time.
 
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