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(NPR)   Istanbul, not Constantinople, is a hotbed of spies, but that's nobody's business but the Turks   (npr.org) divider line 57
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2012-09-09 02:06:47 PM
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heartily agrees.
 
2012-09-09 02:34:40 PM
The other night my wife and I were planning our next trip, and I had a great idea of where to go, and I kept talking about all the cool stuff in Constantinople. My wife finally asked: "Where the hell is Constantinople".I realized that after focusing on the Crusades in college, and listening to the song so many times I realized I haven't called it Istanbul in a while.
 
2012-09-09 03:26:19 PM
Hey!
 
2012-09-09 03:27:50 PM

Teknowaffle: I realized that after focusing on the Crusades in college, and listening to the song so many times playing far too much Crusader Kings and Europa Universalis I realized I haven't called it Istanbul in a while.


FTFpersonal experience.

Also, didn't most westerners continue to refer to it as Constantinople all the way up through the 19th century?
 
2012-09-09 03:28:41 PM

Teknowaffle: The other night my wife and I were planning our next trip, and I had a great idea of where to go, and I kept talking about all the cool stuff in Constantinople. My wife finally asked: "Where the hell is Constantinople".I realized that after focusing on the Crusades in college, and listening to the song so many times I realized I haven't called it Istanbul in a while.


Istanbul is on the top of my list for places to travel.
 
2012-09-09 03:29:12 PM
People just like it better that way
 
2012-09-09 03:29:58 PM
Does anyone know why all those Istanbul scenes in the Tinker Tailor movie were moved from Hong Kong?
 
2012-09-09 03:30:48 PM
Don't worry about it. The next earthquake, Istanbul is gone, and there's nothing left but Constantinople. Shame about the Santa Sophia. A tragic loss. It will be missed by Art for Jocks 101 classes every where.

I keep trying to spell it Istanboul. Intereference from the French. Which is coincidentally one of the reasons why Istanbul is full of spies.
 
2012-09-09 03:33:51 PM
Take me back to Constantinople!
 
2012-09-09 03:35:21 PM

mekki: Take me back to Constantinople!


No. You can't go back to Constantinople.
 
2012-09-09 03:35:47 PM
If you've a date in Constantinople, be careful, because she's probably a spy.
 
2012-09-09 03:37:19 PM

clevernamehere: If you've a date in Constantinople, be careful, because she's probably a spy.


Is her name Ana Ng?
 
2012-09-09 03:40:47 PM

brantgoose: Don't worry about it. The next earthquake, Istanbul is gone, and there's nothing left but Constantinople. Shame about the Santa Sophia. A tragic loss. It will be missed by Art for Jocks 101 classes every where.

I keep trying to spell it Istanboul. Intereference from the French. Which is coincidentally one of the reasons why Istanbul is full of spies.


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2012-09-09 03:40:53 PM
Then, I'm going to Constantinople.
 
2012-09-09 03:41:01 PM
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2012-09-09 03:43:03 PM
Why'd they change it?
 
2012-09-09 03:45:57 PM

titwrench: Why'd they change it?


That's nobody's business but the Turks.
 
2012-09-09 03:47:37 PM
An itinerant rug merchant named Tofel
Stopped briefly in Constantinople
It's still unclear why,
He was labeled a spy,
But his predicament is anything but hopeful.
 
2012-09-09 04:05:10 PM
Turk? I thought his name was Turkleton.
 
2012-09-09 04:07:45 PM
Buddy of mine from Turkey insisted that there was never a town called "Constantinople" and was REALLY offended by that song. Istanbul has always been called Istanbul, and anything contrary was nothing but hurtful Western lies.

We played it at every opportunity. He would swear like a sailor for five minutes straight. Then we'd bring up Kurds and he'd really get pissed and lose his concentration and we'd smoke his ass at Doom.
 
2012-09-09 04:11:36 PM

soporific: Turk? I thought his name was Turkleton.


Every time I talk about Turkey, I get Hungary.
 
2012-09-09 04:14:56 PM
A golf clap to subby...
 
2012-09-09 04:16:27 PM
Can't believe nobody put this here yet
 
2012-09-09 04:20:39 PM

BolloxReader: Buddy of mine from Turkey insisted that there was never a town called "Constantinople" and was REALLY offended by that song. Istanbul has always been called Istanbul, and anything contrary was nothing but hurtful Western lies.

We played it at every opportunity. He would swear like a sailor for five minutes straight. Then we'd bring up Kurds and he'd really get pissed and lose his concentration and we'd smoke his ass at Doom.


So what was the place called from the 300s to 1453? Actually later than that because the Turks kept the name Constantinople for a good long time.
 
2012-09-09 04:36:07 PM
Would a hotbed of spies have both James Bond AND Jason Bourne in it? Naked?
 
2012-09-09 04:40:21 PM
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Ready!
 
2012-09-09 04:40:33 PM

Seth'n'Spectrum: Teknowaffle: I realized that after focusing on the Crusades in college, and listening to the song so many times playing far too much Crusader Kings and Europa Universalis I realized I haven't called it Istanbul in a while.

FTFpersonal experience.

Also, didn't most westerners continue to refer to it as Constantinople all the way up through the 19th century?


The Turks called it Constantipole up to the twentieth century. Why? Because the Ottoman Caliph claimed to be the legitimate heir of Constantine and the Eastern Roman Empire (by virtue of conquest, which was not something typically recognized in the West unless conquest was aided by some other claim, which in the Ottoman case it was not).

After the Caliph abdicated and Turkey because a republic, Turkey insisted on dropping the Constantin- part (more or less) so as to emphasize that is was a republic now and no longer and empire.

But that's nobody's business by the Turks'.
 
2012-09-09 05:00:39 PM

craxyd: Can't believe nobody put this here yet


God damn if that doesn't take me back.
 
2012-09-09 05:07:51 PM

brantgoose: Don't worry about it. The next earthquake, Istanbul is gone, and there's nothing left but Constantinople. Shame about the Santa Sophia. A tragic loss. It will be missed by Art for Jocks 101 classes every where.

I keep trying to spell it Istanboul. Intereference from the French. Which is coincidentally one of the reasons why Istanbul is full of spies.


Actually, the Hagia Sophia will probably survive the next earthquake as its predecessor was destroyed in an earthquake and it was rebuilt to withstand quite a shaking.
 
2012-09-09 05:21:40 PM

coco ebert: brantgoose: Don't worry about it. The next earthquake, Istanbul is gone, and there's nothing left but Constantinople. Shame about the Santa Sophia. A tragic loss. It will be missed by Art for Jocks 101 classes every where.

I keep trying to spell it Istanboul. Intereference from the French. Which is coincidentally one of the reasons why Istanbul is full of spies.

Actually, the Hagia Sophia will probably survive the next earthquake as its predecessor was destroyed in an earthquake and it was rebuilt to withstand quite a shaking.


The first Hagia Sophia withstood the Fourth Crusade. They build things to last down there.
 
2012-09-09 05:26:09 PM

red5ish: Teknowaffle: The other night my wife and I were planning our next trip, and I had a great idea of where to go, and I kept talking about all the cool stuff in Constantinople. My wife finally asked: "Where the hell is Constantinople".I realized that after focusing on the Crusades in college, and listening to the song so many times I realized I haven't called it Istanbul in a while.

Istanbul is on the top of my list for places to travel.


You should try the Iskender kebab if you ever go there.
 
2012-09-09 05:34:37 PM
I had a friend whose parents were Turkish and I always called it Constantinople around them. His mom realized I was joking but dad was less than amused.

/Dad also thought thought that the Blalkans should still belong to Turkey and that the Iberian Peninsula is "ancestral" Arab territory, so he was easy to provoke.
 
2012-09-09 05:40:12 PM
What about Byzantium?
 
2012-09-09 06:22:07 PM

Tyrosine: I had a friend whose parents were Turkish and I always called it Constantinople around them. His mom realized I was joking but dad was less than amused.

/Dad also thought thought that the Blalkans should still belong to Turkey and that the Iberian Peninsula is "ancestral" Arab territory, so he was easy to provoke.


If he's Turkish, why does he care about the Iberian peninsula?
 
2012-09-09 06:28:22 PM
 
2012-09-09 06:39:48 PM

johnny farker: Tyrosine: I had a friend whose parents were Turkish and I always called it Constantinople around them. His mom realized I was joking but dad was less than amused.

/Dad also thought thought that the Blalkans should still belong to Turkey and that the Iberian Peninsula is "ancestral" Arab territory, so he was easy to provoke.

If he's Turkish, why does he care about the Iberian peninsula?


You never heard of the Reconquista, I guess. You need to do some homework. Look up "Moorish influences in Spain" for starters.
 
2012-09-09 06:59:19 PM
Speaking hotbeds and spies (yeah, it's a stretch, gimme a break...)

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PSFW but Mods are getting worse everyday
 
2012-09-09 07:14:38 PM
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2012-09-09 08:02:10 PM

Jamdug!: Mods are getting worse everyday


Watch yer mouth,Son.
 
2012-09-09 08:14:42 PM

BolloxReader: Buddy of mine from Turkey insisted that there was never a town called "Constantinople" and was REALLY offended by that song. Istanbul has always been called Istanbul, and anything contrary was nothing but hurtful Western lies.

We played it at every opportunity. He would swear like a sailor for five minutes straight. Then we'd bring up Kurds and he'd really get pissed and lose his concentration and we'd smoke his ass at Doom.


The name Istanbul is itself of Greek origin; it comes from the Greek "is ten poli," meaning "to the city."
 
2012-09-09 08:48:17 PM

fragMasterFlash: Jamdug!: Mods are getting worse everyday

Watch yer mouth,Son.


They're banning people for bikini pics now, it's absurd.
 
2012-09-09 09:07:54 PM

Jamdug!: fragMasterFlash: Jamdug!: Mods are getting worse everyday

Watch yer mouth,Son.

They're banning people for bikini pics now, it's absurd.


But the advertisers might get upset. :-/
 
2012-09-09 09:16:21 PM

johnny farker: Tyrosine: I had a friend whose parents were Turkish and I always called it Constantinople around them. His mom realized I was joking but dad was less than amused.

/Dad also thought thought that the Blalkans should still belong to Turkey and that the Iberian Peninsula is "ancestral" Arab territory, so he was easy to provoke.

If he's Turkish, why does he care about the Iberian peninsula?


The Moors being evicted. It was a "The West vs. Islam" thing. He'd go off on rants about the crusades, Israel, clouds, the Rand Corporation, etc. and I'd tune out.....
 
2012-09-09 09:23:14 PM
Ah, where's the love for the Liquid Television version? Link
 
2012-09-09 09:43:17 PM

Gyrfalcon: You never heard of the Reconquista, I guess. You need to do some homework. Look up "Moorish influences in Spain" for starters.


But many Turks hate the Arabs anyways.

Also, Istanbul is filled with hot chicks. And they drink a lot and put out. Would visit again ++++!
 
2012-09-09 10:09:33 PM

Jamdug!: fragMasterFlash: Jamdug!: Mods are getting worse everyday

Watch yer mouth,Son.

They're banning people for bikini pics now, it's absurd.


Election year, you'll get over it, blah-blah-blah.
 
2012-09-09 10:12:06 PM
Istanbul is just the way the Turks pronounced "In the city"- Eis tam polin in Greek afaik- because to the locals of the region Byzantium, later Constantinople, was THE city in that part of the world. Once the Ottomans captured it they took one look at the streets, the architecture, and the sheer friggin' size and the Sultan said "Boys, we dun got ourselves a new capitol city here."
 
2012-09-09 10:31:24 PM
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2012-09-09 10:32:18 PM

proteus_b: Also, Istanbul is filled with hot chicks.


I always thought Turkish women had the right balance between Semitic and Balkan features; they have the robust nose and deep-set, round eyes like Arabs, but a more angular European face. A lot of Jews in America (who have a Gentile or two in the ancestral mix) have a similar balance.
 
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2012-09-09 10:42:06 PM

cynicalbastard: Istanbul is just the way the Turks pronounced "In the city"- Eis tam polin in Greek afaik- because to the locals of the region Byzantium, later Constantinople, was THE city in that part of the world. Once the Ottomans captured it they took one look at the streets, the architecture, and the sheer friggin' size and the Sultan said "Boys, we dun got ourselves a new capitol city here."


It was Nova Roma for a little while...
 
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