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(Daily Mail)   Crazy guy warns that the smug organic mob is coming, and if they have their way, you'll never be able to afford a chicken for Sunday lunch ever again. That's right, NEVER   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 112
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2012-09-09 10:16:04 PM
Organic as a label is BS. The FDA has the term so effing regulated that almost no small farmer can afford to get it, only massive factory farms. Guess what they do? They spray their "organic potatoes" with a cyanide solution so deadly that they can't have human beings in the field for 2+ weeks after it is used or it could kill them. Mmmm, yum yum, just what I want to put in my body.

And that's what a lot of us who eat organic really have a problem with. We don't want chemicals in our foods - "well within acceptable limits?" Really? WTF ever happened to cyanide free potatoes. And more importantly, those chemicals build up in the soil. I grew up in farmland (terraced higher up on the side of a hill where we lived). You know what happens to those pesticides? They eventually soak into the soil. Then when it rains, the water takes them down into the water table. There are areas where I grew up where we simply couldn't drink water anymore, it could hurt you.

If you want to destroy the environment, go for it, but stop wrecking the world for everyone else in the process.
 
2012-09-09 11:47:23 PM
So how does this affect my beef flavored ramen noodles?
 
2012-09-09 11:50:06 PM

Ruiizu: The invisible hand theory has been dead for a long time. Deception trumps the invisible hand. Companies really don't want to tell you what is in the food, and if they can just shut their door and say "no thanks, this is private property" they will.


Agreed 100%. I should have put a "/snark" slashy on it.
 
2012-09-10 12:51:58 AM
Am I the only cynic that believes most all "organic" food really isn't? Especially if any part of it comes from outside the US.
 
2012-09-10 01:12:39 AM
Isn't all life organic? Am I missing something?
 
2012-09-10 09:11:53 AM
Lunaville SmartestFunniest 2012-09-09 08:29:31 AM


This smug "organic" Mom already feels like she lives in a corporate Orwellian society




Thanks for lending credence to to "crazy guy"
 
2012-09-10 11:56:35 AM
It's amazing how many people get so very defensive about organics. It's quite simple. If you don't want to buy organics, then don't. But why do you have to tell those of us who do that we are wrong, crazy, stupid, etc?

I like to imagine that my vegetables have not been soaked in substances similar to those used in chemical warfare, and that my meat was not tortured in a high-density feed lot. I'm willing to pay extra for this, and in so doing supporting many suppliers of this niche market.

I'm not trying to force YOU to do the same. Make your own choices and let me do the same.

/This "organics not any more nutritious" thing is a classic straw man argument.
 
2012-09-10 12:39:21 PM

JustTheTip: It's amazing how many people get so very defensive about organics. It's quite simple. If you don't want to buy organics, then don't. But why do you have to tell those of us who do that we are wrong, crazy, stupid, etc?

I like to imagine that my vegetables have not been soaked in substances similar to those used in chemical warfare, and that my meat was not tortured in a high-density feed lot. I'm willing to pay extra for this, and in so doing supporting many suppliers of this niche market.

I'm not trying to force YOU to do the same. Make your own choices and let me do the same.

/This "organics not any more nutritious" thing is a classic straw man argument.


Because you are wrong crazy and stupid about your reasoning for eating organic.

Waste your money all you like but like or it not, Agent Orange is not being sprayed on your Oranges.
 
2012-09-10 04:46:28 PM

Lunaville: This smug "organic" Mom already feels like she lives in a corporate Orwellian society when the pediatrician closes the door, turns on the water, and says "Please, don't tell anyone I was the one that told you, but only feed your children organic milk and meat. Here's why ... ".

I want organic choices and, while it would be swell if organic options were cheaper, I don't want the standards for the organic label lowered so as to make it easier for Beatrice companies to acquire that label for their products.


Tin-foil hats, not just for teabaggers any more.

/proly a troll.
 
2012-09-10 06:03:31 PM

farkeruk: In other words, organic tasting good is more of a correlation with the fact that you're buying from high quality producers who then seek out to get the organic mark. You can find crap organics, and the reason is that some industrial producers simply sit down with the rules and work out the bare minimum to pass the standard. Personally, I just buy from individual producers that I know make good products, and most of them aren't organic.


I've discovered much the same thing. I'd much rather hear word-of-mouth recommendations than see organic stamps.

Now, can we please stop all this and work on making a cow that likes being eaten? "Now that I have your orders, I'll just nip off and kill myself. Don't worry sir, I'll be humane."
 
2012-09-10 06:40:27 PM

Slowdog: What if you want four fried chickens? And a Coke?


That just means you're awesome.

///could eat 4 fried chickens and a coke. Might need a few hours....might need more than one coke.
 
2012-09-10 07:31:17 PM

austerity101: I've been trying to follow this organic-food/anti-GMO/anti-pesticide thing for a while, and all I really get from the organic advocates is:

- pesticides are poison, so therefore they're bad.
- Monsanto is evil, so therefore GMO produce is bad.

Not all poisons are poisonous to all living things. Sure, there are nasty pesticides out there, and with any luck in government regulation, we stop using those.

It seems to me that certain types of GMO produce have been in use in places like Europe for a while, where they take a more "No compelling scientific evidence shows it's harmful, so it's OK" approach.

Monsanto is evil. Many other big players in the agricultural industry are also pretty evil. That doesn't make the produce they produce (sorry) itself inherently bad.

As great as it would be to grow only organic produce, growing organically takes more land for less yield, and the world's population is only continuing to grow. There is literally not enough space on earth to grow enough food organically to feed all 7 billion of us. Organic farming is not the way of the future, unless you're highly privileged. We need to pour money into growing as much as possible as efficiently as possible, and making sure it doesn't kill us.

This idea of "organic = healthy and safe" needs to die.


Besides, the pesticides weaken the sperm, so overpopulation will solve itself.
 
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