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2012-09-09 08:29:31 AM
This smug "organic" Mom already feels like she lives in a corporate Orwellian society when the pediatrician closes the door, turns on the water, and says "Please, don't tell anyone I was the one that told you, but only feed your children organic milk and meat. Here's why ... ".

I want organic choices and, while it would be swell if organic options were cheaper, I don't want the standards for the organic label lowered so as to make it easier for Beatrice companies to acquire that label for their products.
 
2012-09-09 09:23:44 AM
George Clooney unavailable for comment..
 
2012-09-09 09:26:21 AM
Target. Entire roasted chickens, kept at serving temperature. $6 per chicken. PER CHICKEN!! I'm in love.
 
2012-09-09 09:28:17 AM

DisregardTheFollowing: Target. Entire roasted chickens, kept at serving temperature. $6 per chicken. PER CHICKEN!! I'm in love.


Sam's Club has the best ones.
 
2012-09-09 09:29:33 AM
The DIly Mail. It's like spending 20 minutes in a mental hospital.
 
2012-09-09 09:34:22 AM
What about Saturday lunch? Will I be able to afford a chicken for Saturday lunch? What about a chicken burrito? Will I be able to afford a chicken burrito?
 
2012-09-09 09:36:54 AM

oukewldave: DisregardTheFollowing: Target. Entire roasted chickens, kept at serving temperature. $6 per chicken. PER CHICKEN!! I'm in love.

Sam's Club has the best ones.


Not to mention the best ribs.

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2012-09-09 09:37:40 AM

DownDaRiver: Will I be able to afford a chicken burrito?


Not on Sunday.
 
2012-09-09 09:38:39 AM
Next week's headline: "Antibiotics in meats are making people resistant to antibiotics and cause CANCER!"

*Cue the Daily Fail song*
 
2012-09-09 09:40:15 AM

Lunaville: This smug "organic" Mom already feels like she lives in a corporate Orwellian society when the pediatrician closes the door, turns on the water, and says "Please, don't tell anyone I was the one that told you, but only feed your children organic milk and meat. Here's why ... ".

I want organic choices and, while it would be swell if organic options were cheaper, I don't want the standards for the organic label lowered so as to make it easier for Beatrice companies to acquire that label for their products.


You're a nut, and your pediatrician has an investment in an organic place that specializes in taking money from nuts.
 
2012-09-09 09:40:52 AM
Drop some money into a farm co-op. You'll have to deal with bumbles, but it's damned good flesh. Also vegetables, if that's your thing.

/mid 6 figures 4 years ago, food for life
//assuming no zombie apocalypse
/which would be awesome
 
2012-09-09 09:41:31 AM
FTFA "Marco criticises chefs Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall, left and Jamie Oliver, calling them a 'pair of over-seasoned organically-correct pancake tossers''

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2012-09-09 09:41:42 AM
narwhaler.com
 
2012-09-09 09:43:01 AM
I dont think it has to do with what's in organic chicken that would make it healthier, but rather what ISN'T in it.
 
2012-09-09 09:48:20 AM
You know, I have no problem with Organic, Mass Produced, Genetically Altered or even "pink slime". My only issue in the US, is LABEL THE FARKING THING! More Specifically label it accurately and stop with all the bullshiat. For all the Conservative Crazies out there screaming about the free market, it seems to me this is a perfect example. If you label something accurately then the consumer can choose what he or she wants to eat and decide if the price is fair or to go with a cheaper (and perhaps unhealthy) alternative
 
2012-09-09 09:53:39 AM

TheSwizz: DownDaRiver: Will I be able to afford a chicken burrito?

Not on Sunday.



Well, I guess I'll just have a balogna sandwich and some chips on Sunday then. And some pie. I like pie.


/mmmm chocolate cream pie
 
2012-09-09 09:55:55 AM

Ummon: You know, I have no problem with Organic, Mass Produced, Genetically Altered or even "pink slime". My only issue in the US, is LABEL THE FARKING THING! More Specifically label it accurately and stop with all the bullshiat. For all the Conservative Crazies out there screaming about the free market, it seems to me this is a perfect example. If you label something accurately then the consumer can choose what he or she wants to eat and decide if the price is fair or to go with a cheaper (and perhaps unhealthy) alternative


Your rational position is dangerous. Please move on to claiming the science is settled and the Stanford people are just deniers or that the whole organic thing is a ruse to get research cash. Otherwise you risk tearing the basic fabric of FARK itself.

/Think of the children.
 
2012-09-09 09:59:16 AM
Nutritional value isn't the only reason people buy organic.
 
2012-09-09 10:00:35 AM
Hey Mainstream, Your double reverse propaganda is not working so well actually.
 
2012-09-09 10:04:03 AM

ghare: Lunaville: This smug "organic" Mom already feels like she lives in a corporate Orwellian society when the pediatrician closes the door, turns on the water, and says "Please, don't tell anyone I was the one that told you, but only feed your children organic milk and meat. Here's why ... ".

I want organic choices and, while it would be swell if organic options were cheaper, I don't want the standards for the organic label lowered so as to make it easier for Beatrice companies to acquire that label for their products.

You're a nut, and your pediatrician has an investment in an organic place that specializes in taking money from nuts.


I was going to go in a little bit different direction and say that either this Lunaville person is making it up or the doctor is loon.  I mean, seriously. Shut the door? Turn on the running water? Is the conventional agriculture hit squad prowling around general practice clinics in an attempt to overhear conversations that could possibly have something to do with food?
 
2012-09-09 10:07:07 AM
Repeat.
http://www.fark.com/comments/7305554/Headline-Organic-food-no-healthi e r-than-non-organic-Second-sentence-But-organic-options-may-live-up-to- their-billing-of-lowering-exposure-to-pesticide-residue-antibiotic-res istant-bacteria
 
2012-09-09 10:09:29 AM
I've heard some organic foods taste better.

The fundamental problem with organic food is that we will never be able to feed the entire planet with organic farming methods.

Factory farms aren't going anywhere, and neither is "non-organic" food. (because we know that not all food is made up of organic materials. ಠ_ಠ )
 
2012-09-09 10:10:52 AM

Lunaville: This smug "organic" Mom already feels like she lives in a corporate Orwellian society when the pediatrician closes the door, turns on the water, and says "Please, don't tell anyone I was the one that told you, but only feed your children organic milk and meat. Here's why ... "


Scary stuff, indeed.

But even that pales in comparison to this corporate coverup.
 
2012-09-09 10:14:02 AM

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: I mean, seriously. Shut the door? Turn on the running water? Is the conventional agriculture hit squad prowling around general practice clinics in an attempt to overhear conversations that could possibly have something to do with food?


Doctor is probably on his last strike before being fired for pushing his lies as science.
 
2012-09-09 10:15:09 AM
But Chik-fil-a is closed on Sunday.
 
2012-09-09 10:17:17 AM

zobear: Nutritional value isn't the only reason people buy organic.


No, but it does seem to be the big push being made by people favoring organic foods these days.
 
2012-09-09 10:18:40 AM
Some of us have always known that the "organic" movement is really a marketing ploy to separate us from more of our money. Many of the foods labeled organic are not organic at all. The USDA has regulations about this, of course, but they are not being enforced. The pesticides used these days are designed to do their job and begin breaking down within hours. Most of the applied pesticides are gone within a week. Very few persistent pesticides are used anymore. The ones currently approved for agricultural use have a very low toxicity and the amount that gets into our food is not trivial.
 
2012-09-09 10:21:38 AM
What if you want four fried chickens? And a Coke?
 
2012-09-09 10:22:49 AM

clevershark: The DIly Mail. It's like spending 20 minutes in a mental hospital.


That's a pleasant coffee break, compared to Fark.
 
2012-09-09 10:27:18 AM
The guy is not crazy, he is right.
 
2012-09-09 10:27:35 AM

zobear: Nutritional value isn't the only reason people buy organic.


One brazillion 'THIS'

Ecologically sound food production HAS to happen. It's even more important than sorting your recycling from your landfill refuse.

/thinks global, eats local.
//also orders local-source for his restaurant - including supporting local allotment growers, who generally fertilize with locally procured manure.
///has own allotment 
////waves paw at zobear
 
2012-09-09 10:31:23 AM

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: clevershark: The DIly Mail. It's like spending 20 minutes in a mental hospital.

That's a pleasant coffee break, compared to Fark.


Hmmm.... what kind of coffee?
 
2012-09-09 10:36:39 AM

uttertosh: Ecologically sound food production HAS to happen. It's even more important than sorting your recycling from your landfill refuse.


You realize that using only organic farming techniques would starve like, half of the entire planet right?
 
2012-09-09 10:38:31 AM

zobear: Nutritional value isn't the only reason people buy organic.


I'm baffled by the repeated articles in an apparently very stupid media that keep crowing about organic food not being "more nutritious" than conventional food. Whoever made that claim? No one that I heard of. I presume they're misundersting the meaning of 'healthier,' and assuming that means 'more nutrition,' but that's not true at all. Organic food is (usually) genetically the same as conventional food, so there's no reason in the world to expect it to contain anything the conventional product would not.

The whole point of organic food isn't what's in it, but what's NOT in it. Consider: You have a plate with two doughnuts, both identical, and one falls off the plate into a pile of broken glass. Is one of them now 'healthier' than the other? If so, is it because the one still on the plate now has more nutrients than the one sitting in a pile of glass?
 
2012-09-09 10:38:41 AM

Lunaville: This smug "organic" Mom already feels like she lives in a corporate Orwellian society when the pediatrician closes the door, turns on the water, and says "Please, don't tell anyone I was the one that told you, but only feed your children organic milk and meat. Here's why ... "


Text message intercepted from said doctor to his brother in law:
"Got another yuppy screwball customer for the organic store. Your welcome."

Find a doctor with better grammar..
 
2012-09-09 10:46:41 AM

Lunaville: This smug "organic" Mom already feels like she lives in a corporate Orwellian society when the pediatrician closes the door, turns on the water, and says "Please, don't tell anyone I was the one that told you, but only feed your children organic milk and meat. Here's why ... ".

I want organic choices and, while it would be swell if organic options were cheaper, I don't want the standards for the organic label lowered so as to make it easier for Beatrice companies to acquire that label for their products.


Your doc's a nutter.
 
2012-09-09 10:47:57 AM

fluffy2097: I've heard some organic foods taste better.


Yes, but not because it's organic. The Soil Association in the UK have rules that you have to go through to get accreditation besides the pesticides thing. So, for instance, animals have to be free range. Which of these two factors do you think makes bacon taste good? Whether Porky has eaten grass which had some pesticides put on it, or whether Porky got proper muscle development?

If you're an excellent, niche producer who doesn't cut corners, you're already ticking most of the boxes for your product meeting the Soil Association standards. For many producers, they'll take the few extra steps to get the accreditation because then they get extra sales to the organic buyers.

I know a bacon producer that produces excellent bacon. It's properly cured from free range pigs. Om nom nom etc. One day, I asked them if they would consider going organic. They told me that they could, if they did one thing - took the pigs off the fields and left it fallow for a time (it's basically a requirement about ensuring the pesticides are gone). Other than that, everything they do meets the standard. They don't put fertiliser on the fields, don't use antibiotics unless the animal is ill, allow the pigs to roam free.

Now, which is better tasting bacon? That one, or the one from the organic farm nearby? I'll tell you, it's the non-organic one.

Another example: a brewery near me went organic. The guy is a craft brewer, doesn't cut corners. Uses only water, barley, hops and yeast. Bought excellent hops and barley because he wanted to make a great product. One day, his barley producer went organic. So, all he then had to do was to find an organic hop supplier and then go through some accreditation steps and he was organic. The thing is, the post-organic beer didn't taste much different to the pre-organic beer.

And finally... a cru classe producer in Bordeaux was asked if he would consider going organic. He asked what that was involved and then told the interviewer that actually, they already did all of that.

In other words, organic tasting good is more of a correlation with the fact that you're buying from high quality producers who then seek out to get the organic mark. You can find crap organics, and the reason is that some industrial producers simply sit down with the rules and work out the bare minimum to pass the standard. Personally, I just buy from individual producers that I know make good products, and most of them aren't organic.
 
2012-09-09 10:49:10 AM

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: I mean, seriously. Shut the door? Turn on the running water? Is the conventional agriculture hit squad prowling around general practice clinics in an attempt to overhear conversations that could possibly have something to do with food?


So! One of those Con-Ag corporate creeps got to you too, huh?

/you better run, egg!
 
2012-09-09 10:49:18 AM

Aqua Buddha: Lunaville: This smug "organic" Mom already feels like she lives in a corporate Orwellian society when the pediatrician closes the door, turns on the water, and says "Please, don't tell anyone I was the one that told you, but only feed your children organic milk and meat. Here's why ... "

Scary stuff, indeed.

But even that pales in comparison to this corporate coverup.


Tell me about it. I was at an agricultural fair yesterday. You'd think if there was one place you could get away from large quantities of dangerous chemicals, it would be at an agricultural fair. Not so. Around noon, a very large quantity of dihydrogen monoxide was released at the very fair I was at. To be fair, the staff did warn us of the impending release, advising us how long it would go on and suggesing ways to minimise exposure. Nevertheless, many of us were exposed anyway. I was exposed to quite a lot of myself, and even those who were not hit by it during the relase had to walk through it after: it was everywhere, all over the ground and exposed objects, so I bet pretty much everyone there was exposed. Many of us exhibited the classic exposure symptoms, especially shivering, but luckily there was very little of the dreaded diminished vision and compromised breathing that can result. Needless to say, I stripped off the exposed clothing when I got home and I'm still mitigating that. NOT fun.
 
2012-09-09 10:52:49 AM

06Wahoo: zobear: Nutritional value isn't the only reason people buy organic.

No, but it does seem to be the big push being made by people favoring organic foods these days.


Who? Where? I've literally NEVER seen that claim made. It makes no scientific sense anyway, so I can't imagine why anyone would say it. Again, are you confusing 'healthier' with 'contains more good stuff'? Organic food does not contain more good stuff; there's no scientific reason why it would that I can think of. It does, however, contain less bad stuff, and less bad stuff is indisputably healthier.
 
2012-09-09 10:57:04 AM
Organic food doesn't taste any better, Fluffy.

Freshness is the only thing that will have any noticeable effect on the flavor of the food. That's why if you have some land you should have your own garden. Nothing tastes better than produce that comes straight from the garden to the dinner table.
 
2012-09-09 10:57:32 AM

uttertosh: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: clevershark: The DIly Mail. It's like spending 20 minutes in a mental hospital.

That's a pleasant coffee break, compared to Fark.

Hmmm.... what kind of coffee?


I confess I have no idea. Though I come from a British family, I admit that I know nothing about British coffee.
 
2012-09-09 10:58:29 AM

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: I'm baffled by the repeated articles in an apparently very stupid media that keep crowing about organic food not being "more nutritious" than conventional food. Whoever made that claim? No one that I heard of.


Actually, the likes of the Soil Association in the UK have done this. http://www.soilassociation.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=30Bk3Sg6Pp0%3 D&tabid=385

"Organic food has:
• Lower levels of contaminants, such as pesticides, antibiotics and nitrates.
• Higher levels of a variety of essential nutrients."

Thing is, there have been studies showing that organic food has higher levels of iron, zinc and potassium. What the lobbiests won't tell you is that the extra iron, zinc and potassium are irrelevant. Your body needs about 5mg of zinc, and no-one in medical circles is worried about zinc deficiency.
 
2012-09-09 11:02:04 AM

JackieRabbit: Some of us have always known that the "organic" movement is really a marketing ploy to separate us from more of our money. Many of the foods labeled organic are not organic at all. The USDA has regulations about this, of course, but they are not being enforced. The pesticides used these days are designed to do their job and begin breaking down within hours. Most of the applied pesticides are gone within a week. Very few persistent pesticides are used anymore. The ones currently approved for agricultural use have a very low toxicity and the amount that gets into our food is not trivial.


Bullsh*t.
 
2012-09-09 11:02:13 AM

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: 06Wahoo: zobear: Nutritional value isn't the only reason people buy organic.

No, but it does seem to be the big push being made by people favoring organic foods these days.

Who? Where? I've literally NEVER seen that claim made. It makes no scientific sense anyway, so I can't imagine why anyone would say it. Again, are you confusing 'healthier' with 'contains more good stuff'? Organic food does not contain more good stuff; there's no scientific reason why it would that I can think of. It does, however, contain less bad stuff, and less bad stuff is indisputably healthier.


Plus taste. For me, eggs are the biggest difference. My parents' chickens are accidentally free-range (they escape the coop but stay on the property and return to lay eggs). They are some of the best eggs I've ever tasted...the yolk is a rich orangey-yellow, the shells are more difficult to break. Not officially organic but damn close to it. The chickens are content to roam around freely and live pretty cushy lives compared to their brethren on factory farms.
 
2012-09-09 11:02:35 AM

Semi-Sane: Organic food doesn't taste any better, Fluffy.

Freshness is the only thing that will have any noticeable effect on the flavor of the food. That's why if you have some land you should have your own garden. Nothing tastes better than produce that comes straight from the garden to the dinner table.


Not true. And believe me, I was as surprised as anyone to discover this. I certainly didn't expect it and wasn't looking for it. But it turns out, at least in my experience, that most organic food DOES taste better. I won't claim to know why, but I'm willing to bet it's because conventional farming methods and chemicals depress or change the flavour of many foods. The food from our own garden tastes good, and it may be in part because we use mostly organic methods, as well as being fresher. I totally agree with you about that, and it logically follows that much organic market food may be fresher on average than most conventional market food, because organic food often doesn't store as long. But I really have noticed a difference and taste, and I don't think it's just because of that.
 
2012-09-09 11:07:28 AM

Portia: Plus taste. For me, eggs are the biggest difference. My parents' chickens are accidentally free-range (they escape the coop but stay on the property and return to lay eggs). They are some of the best eggs I've ever tasted...the yolk is a rich orangey-yellow, the shells are more difficult to break. Not officially organic but damn close to it. The chickens are content to roam around freely and live pretty cushy lives compared to their brethren on factory farms.


That's free-range, not organic. Free-range makes a difference to the taste. I've yet to find that organic does.
 
2012-09-09 11:10:49 AM
I've been trying to follow this organic-food/anti-GMO/anti-pesticide thing for a while, and all I really get from the organic advocates is:

- pesticides are poison, so therefore they're bad.
- Monsanto is evil, so therefore GMO produce is bad.

Not all poisons are poisonous to all living things. Sure, there are nasty pesticides out there, and with any luck in government regulation, we stop using those.

It seems to me that certain types of GMO produce have been in use in places like Europe for a while, where they take a more "No compelling scientific evidence shows it's harmful, so it's OK" approach.

Monsanto is evil. Many other big players in the agricultural industry are also pretty evil. That doesn't make the produce they produce (sorry) itself inherently bad.

As great as it would be to grow only organic produce, growing organically takes more land for less yield, and the world's population is only continuing to grow. There is literally not enough space on earth to grow enough food organically to feed all 7 billion of us. Organic farming is not the way of the future, unless you're highly privileged. We need to pour money into growing as much as possible as efficiently as possible, and making sure it doesn't kill us.

This idea of "organic = healthy and safe" needs to die.
 
2012-09-09 11:14:54 AM
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Food garden, chickens and cattle. It's a lot of work but my family is not beholden to idiots, zealots, catastrophes nor "health science".
 
2012-09-09 11:20:42 AM

oukewldave: DisregardTheFollowing: Target. Entire roasted chickens, kept at serving temperature. $6 per chicken. PER CHICKEN!! I'm in love.

Sam's Club has the best ones.


Yeah, but they're made in China and raised on a steady diet of lead, PCB's, and Spotted Dick.
 
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