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2012-09-09 05:52:16 AM
Subby wins not one but TWO internets

.please pick them both up from Drew, they both expire concurrently
 
2012-09-09 06:31:44 AM
And now I am dumber for having read that shiat.
 
2012-09-09 06:32:43 AM
Rape-ublicans questioning the Democratic party's platform? Boo-hoo-haa-haa.
 
2012-09-09 06:32:57 AM
OH SNAP.
 
2012-09-09 06:33:00 AM
i46.tinypic.com
 
2012-09-09 06:35:35 AM
They forget that THEY are the ones that brought this abortion of abortion back into the limelight.

/reap
 
2012-09-09 06:56:33 AM
That is one goddamned lazy title. That said... yeah. Of COURSE the Democratic Party is the party of abortion. Phrasing it that way is the work of a dickfart, but it still rings true.
 
2012-09-09 06:57:43 AM
I had expected an asinine piece,but not this asinine.
 
2012-09-09 07:06:45 AM

Jisaw: That is one goddamned lazy title. That said... yeah. Of COURSE the Democratic Party is the party of abortion. Phrasing it that way is the work of a dickfart, but it still rings true.


It's settled. We're renaming the party from Democratic Party to Abortionist Party.

/tends to vote democratic
//never had an abortion
 
2012-09-09 07:09:23 AM

Apos: I had expected an asinine piece,but not this asinine.


FTA:
Many also lambasted the Republicans' staunch pro-life positions as too extreme for America - an ironic claim given the Democrats' abortion absolutism.

Sorry sparky, calling pro-choice absolutism is pretty farking asinine.
 
2012-09-09 07:10:43 AM

Apos: I had expected an asinine piece,but not this asinine.


Argh...I misread your post.. More coffee.
 
2012-09-09 07:20:51 AM
Dear Mr. Bauer,
It is not my intention to make sure every woman experiences at least one abortion in their lifetime. I want to make sure abortion remains safe and legal. I want to make sure that a woman can safely seek an abortion without fear of retaliation by someone who opposes her legal right to choose how she lives her life.
I am sorry that the Republican Party has become infested with Tea Party Patriots. I am sorry that the Republican Party is viewed as the party of extremism, drifting further away from moderate and independent voters. Fortunately, your article will never convince moderate voters that the Democratic Party is filled with extremists from the other side of the political spectrum.
 
2012-09-09 07:24:51 AM
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/3711005.pdf.

TABLE 2. Percentage of women reporting that specified reasons contributed to their
decision to have an abortion, 2004 and 1987
Reason 2004 1987
(N=1,160) (N=1,900)
Having a baby would dramatically change my life 74 78*
Would interfere with education 38 36
Would interfere with job/employment/career 38 50***
Have other children or dependents 32 22***
Can't afford a baby now 73 69
Unmarried 42 na
Student or planning to study 34 na
Can't afford a baby and child care 28 na
Can't afford the basic needs of life 23 na
Unemployed 22 na
Can't leave job to take care of a baby 21 na
Would have to find a new place to live 19 na
Not enough support from husband or partner 14 na
Husband or partner is unemployed 12 na
Currently or temporarily on welfare or public assistance 8 na
Don't want to be a single mother or having relationship problems 48 52*
Not sure about relationship 19 na
Partner and I can't or don't want to get married 12 30***
Not in a relationship right now 11 12
Relationship or marriage may break up soon 11 16*
Husband or partner is abusive to me or my children 2 3
Have completed my childbearing 38 28**
Not ready for a(nother) child† 32 36
Don't want people to know I had sex or got pregnant 25 33*
Don't feel mature enough to raise a(nother) child 22 27*
Husband or partner wants me to have an abortion 14 24***
Possible problems affecting the health of the fetus 13 14
Physical problem with my health 12 8**
Parents want me to have an abortion 6 8
Was a victim of rape 1 1
Became pregnant as a result of incest
 
2012-09-09 07:26:34 AM
The Democratic Party is the party of abortion. The Republican Party is the party of war. Both sides are deontologically bad, so you might as well conclude that the GOP is the lesser of two evils (more souls perish in the abortuaries than in the battlefields of the Middle East) and express a utilitarian preference for Republicans.
 
2012-09-09 07:26:41 AM
Abortions for some, "not legitimate rape" for others!

i28.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-09 07:32:35 AM
I heard a recent story, about a state rep. trying to stop all abortion in his state, and he was interviewed by Al-Jazeera. After the reporter asked him about his views, the follow up question was 'Why do you think women get abortions?' After fumbling for a bit, he admitted that he'd never thought about that.

I don't recall his name or his state.
 
2012-09-09 07:34:34 AM
Anyone who isn't liberal when they're young has no heart, anyone who isn't conservative when they're older has no brain.
 
2012-09-09 07:36:16 AM

X_Legend: Anyone who isn't liberal when they're young has no heart, anyone who isn't conservative when they're older has no brain.


I think that saying has been heavily discredited by now.
 
2012-09-09 07:39:54 AM

Mjeck: http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/3711005.pdf.

TABLE 2. Percentage of women reporting that specified reasons contributed to their
decision to have an abortion, 2004 and 1987
Reason 2004 1987
(N=1,160) (N=1,900)
Having a baby would dramatically change my life 74 78*
Would interfere with education 38 36
Would interfere with job/employment/career 38 50***
Have other children or dependents 32 22***
Can't afford a baby now 73 69
Unmarried 42 na
Student or planning to study 34 na
Can't afford a baby and child care 28 na
Can't afford the basic needs of life 23 na
Unemployed 22 na
Can't leave job to take care of a baby 21 na
Would have to find a new place to live 19 na
Not enough support from husband or partner 14 na
Husband or partner is unemployed 12 na
Currently or temporarily on welfare or public assistance 8 na
Don't want to be a single mother or having relationship problems 48 52*
Not sure about relationship 19 na
Partner and I can't or don't want to get married 12 30***
Not in a relationship right now 11 12
Relationship or marriage may break up soon 11 16*
Husband or partner is abusive to me or my children 2 3
Have completed my childbearing 38 28**
Not ready for a(nother) child† 32 36
Don't want people to know I had sex or got pregnant 25 33*
Don't feel mature enough to raise a(nother) child 22 27*
Husband or partner wants me to have an abortion 14 24***
Possible problems affecting the health of the fetus 13 14
Physical problem with my health 12 8**
Parents want me to have an abortion 6 8
Was a victim of rape 1 1
Became pregnant as a result of incest


Wow, that's like 720%.
 
2012-09-09 07:44:35 AM
images1.dailykos.com

Also, abortions are a LEGAL and heavily regulated medical procedure. Okay.
 
2012-09-09 07:45:31 AM
and here I thought the GOP were focusing on jobs and the economy. but yet the only thing coming from them is social wedge issues.
 
2012-09-09 07:47:17 AM

herrDrFarkenstein: Mjeck: http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/3711005.pdf.

TABLE 2. Percentage of women reporting that specified reasons contributed to their
decision to have an abortion, 2004 and 1987
Reason 2004 1987
(N=1,160) (N=1,900)
Having a baby would dramatically change my life 74 78*
Would interfere with education 38 36
Would interfere with job/employment/career 38 50***
Have other children or dependents 32 22***
Can't afford a baby now 73 69
Unmarried 42 na
Student or planning to study 34 na
Can't afford a baby and child care 28 na
Can't afford the basic needs of life 23 na
Unemployed 22 na
Can't leave job to take care of a baby 21 na
Would have to find a new place to live 19 na
Not enough support from husband or partner 14 na
Husband or partner is unemployed 12 na
Currently or temporarily on welfare or public assistance 8 na
Don't want to be a single mother or having relationship problems 48 52*
Not sure about relationship 19 na
Partner and I can't or don't want to get married 12 30***
Not in a relationship right now 11 12
Relationship or marriage may break up soon 11 16*
Husband or partner is abusive to me or my children 2 3
Have completed my childbearing 38 28**
Not ready for a(nother) child† 32 36
Don't want people to know I had sex or got pregnant 25 33*
Don't feel mature enough to raise a(nother) child 22 27*
Husband or partner wants me to have an abortion 14 24***
Possible problems affecting the health of the fetus 13 14
Physical problem with my health 12 8**
Parents want me to have an abortion 6 8
Was a victim of rape 1 1
Became pregnant as a result of incest

Wow, that's like 720%.


some women have multiple reasons.
 
2012-09-09 07:51:38 AM

Alphax: X_Legend: Anyone who isn't liberal when they're young has no heart, anyone who isn't conservative when they're older has no brain.

I think that saying has been heavily discredited by now.


To anywhere but the insular community of the internet...maybe. To the real world, no.
 
2012-09-09 07:56:45 AM

Hobodeluxe: herrDrFarkenstein: Mjeck: http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/3711005.pdf.

TABLE 2. Percentage of women reporting that specified reasons contributed to their
decision to have an abortion, 2004 and 1987
Reason 2004 1987
(N=1,160) (N=1,900)
Having a baby would dramatically change my life 74 78*
Would interfere with education 38 36
Would interfere with job/employment/career 38 50***
Have other children or dependents 32 22***
Can't afford a baby now 73 69
Unmarried 42 na
Student or planning to study 34 na
Can't afford a baby and child care 28 na
Can't afford the basic needs of life 23 na
Unemployed 22 na
Can't leave job to take care of a baby 21 na
Would have to find a new place to live 19 na
Not enough support from husband or partner 14 na
Husband or partner is unemployed 12 na
Currently or temporarily on welfare or public assistance 8 na
Don't want to be a single mother or having relationship problems 48 52*
Not sure about relationship 19 na
Partner and I can't or don't want to get married 12 30***
Not in a relationship right now 11 12
Relationship or marriage may break up soon 11 16*
Husband or partner is abusive to me or my children 2 3
Have completed my childbearing 38 28**
Not ready for a(nother) child† 32 36
Don't want people to know I had sex or got pregnant 25 33*
Don't feel mature enough to raise a(nother) child 22 27*
Husband or partner wants me to have an abortion 14 24***
Possible problems affecting the health of the fetus 13 14
Physical problem with my health 12 8**
Parents want me to have an abortion 6 8
Was a victim of rape 1 1
Became pregnant as a result of incest

Wow, that's like 720%.

some women have multiple reasons.


I've heard they are faking those reasons
 
2012-09-09 07:57:14 AM

X_Legend: Alphax: X_Legend: Anyone who isn't liberal when they're young has no heart, anyone who isn't conservative when they're older has no brain.

I think that saying has been heavily discredited by now.

To anywhere but the insular community of the internet...maybe. To the real world, no.


(eyeroll) Perhaps you'll figure it out someday.
 
2012-09-09 07:58:10 AM

X_Legend: Alphax: X_Legend: Anyone who isn't liberal when they're young has no heart, anyone who isn't conservative when they're older has no brain.

I think that saying has been heavily discredited by now.

To anywhere but the insular community of the internet...maybe. To the real world, no.


The "community of the internet" isn't insular. And in any case, anybody with half a brain in the "real world" already discounts it as the bullsh*t that it is. It's a nice catchphrase, in that you can identify anybody who spouts it as a gullible lackwit who thinks in soundbites.
 
2012-09-09 07:59:14 AM
(J. Rotten, S. Vicious, S. Jones, P. Cook) 

He was a girl from Massachusetts
He just had an abortion 
He was a case of insanity 
His name was Romney he lived in a tree 

He was a no-one who killed his party
He sent him letters from the country 
He was an animal 
He was a bloody disgrace 

Ryan I'm not an animal 
Romney I'm not an abortion 
Dragged on a table in a Bain factory 
Illegitimate place to be 
Legitimate rape in a lavatory
Die little economy screaming 

Romney screaming farking bloody mess 
It's not an animal it's an abortion 

Romney  I'm not an animal 
Romney I'm not an abortion 

Throbbing squirm, gurgling bloody mess 
I'm not a discharge I'm not a loss in 
Protein I'm not a throbbing squirm Ah! 

fark this and fark that 
fark it all and fark the farking brat 
We don't wanna President that looks like that 
I don't wanna President that looks like that. 

Romney I'm not an animal 
Romney  i'm not an abortion 

Romney! Ugh!
 
2012-09-09 08:00:20 AM

X_Legend: Anyone who isn't liberal when they're young has no heart, anyone who isn't conservative when they're older has no brain.


Personly I think a moderate centerist republican might make a good president. So I will vote for the person closest to that target. Obama.
 
2012-09-09 08:01:16 AM

Alphax: X_Legend: Anyone who isn't liberal when they're young has no heart, anyone who isn't conservative when they're older has no brain.

I think that saying has been heavily discredited by now.


Old man yells at chair.jpeg
 
2012-09-09 08:02:56 AM

Hobodeluxe: and here I thought the GOP were focusing on jobs and the economy. but yet the only thing coming from them is social wedge issues.


Nah, every time they ask, they insist they are all about the jobs and the economy, and I'm pretty sure the media would call them on it if it was a patent falsehood.

/Looks legit
 
2012-09-09 08:04:35 AM

X_Legend: Anyone who isn't liberal when they're young has no heart, anyone who isn't conservative when they're older has no brain.


Said by a person whose idea of conservative is to the left of Obama.
 
2012-09-09 08:07:58 AM

X_Legend: Alphax: X_Legend:
To anywhere but the insular community of the internet...maybe. To the real world, no.


I can't get my head around this farking sentence. 'To anywhere but the internet community, maybe, but outside the internet community, no'? WTF? Stick to regurgitating BS that you hear other people say, man. Even the nonsense you popped out earlier is better than your own attempts.
 
2012-09-09 08:08:46 AM
Well, they are.

I mean, calling it "absolutism" is pants-on-head retarded because no one wants to require abortions under any circumstance, but "pro-abortion" is still a perfectly legitimate way to describe the stance of the Democratic party. They're fine with the procedure and willing to defend its legality.

//If someone takes heavy offense at being called "pro-abortion" then they're probably actually a closet fundie idiot that's only going along with rational policy because of peer pressure. There's absolutely no reason any person opposing attempts to make the procedure illegal should object to what is an entirely accurate term.
 
2012-09-09 08:11:39 AM

Alphax: X_Legend: Anyone who isn't liberal when they're young has no heart, anyone who isn't conservative when they're older has no brain.

I think that saying has been heavily discredited by now.


No shiat. I was never a conservative or even a Republican. and ever year I grow increasingly disgusted with the Right. Oh, the Dems in Congress have pissed me off plenty, mostly because they aren't progressive enough and/or don't have the balls to stand up to the fringe right.

Anyway, the whole left-right paradigm has shifted so far to the right, that we've got wingnuts calling moderate-centrist ideas "socialist". We keep telling ourselves how farking great we are, and that 'merika is the most awesome place in the world, yet we are so polarized, thanks to the media, that I fear it will take decades to undo the damage. We should be helping each other, and making the country work better for us and for future generations, but instead, we are turning on each other. These are crazy, stupid times we live in. :(
 
2012-09-09 08:14:11 AM

Jim_Callahan: Well, they are.

I mean, calling it "absolutism" is pants-on-head retarded because no one wants to require abortions under any circumstance, but "pro-abortion" is still a perfectly legitimate way to describe the stance of the Democratic party. They're fine with the procedure and willing to defend its legality.

//If someone takes heavy offense at being called "pro-abortion" then they're probably actually a closet fundie idiot that's only going along with rational policy because of peer pressure. There's absolutely no reason any person opposing attempts to make the procedure illegal should object to what is an entirely accurate term.


Uh, no. Nobody is "pro-abortion". Pro-choice, sure. Not "Pro-abortion." That's a bullsh*t label that the anti-choice people like to inject into the dialogue. Think.
 
2012-09-09 08:14:17 AM

casual disregard: Jisaw: That is one goddamned lazy title. That said... yeah. Of COURSE the Democratic Party is the party of abortion. Phrasing it that way is the work of a dickfart, but it still rings true.

It's settled. We're renaming the party from Democratic Party to Abortionist Party.

/tends to vote democratic
//never had an abortion


Part of me wants to find as many Twin Cities Farkettes as possible and knock them up just to have "ironic abortions".
Another part of me just wants to get laid, but hey I'm honest about it.
 
2012-09-09 08:14:24 AM
"It also supports a woman's right to abortion "regardless of ability to pay." This means Democrats officially support forcing taxpayers to pay for other people's abortions."

Oh, boo-hoo-hoo. Guess what, dickface - we live in this thing called "civilization" where we ALL have to pay for all kinds of things that will not benefit us directly, and that we would not choose to spend our own money on.
Deal with it.
When did the right wing develop this attitude that they should be free to "opt-out" of any social enterprise of which they disapprove? Have any of them considered what would result if EVERYBODY did that?
 
2012-09-09 08:14:57 AM
Interesting what Fark parses/filters out of posts these days....
 
2012-09-09 08:15:35 AM

Jim_Callahan: Well, they are.

I mean, calling it "absolutism" is pants-on-head retarded because no one wants to require abortions under any circumstance, but "pro-abortion" is still a perfectly legitimate way to describe the stance of the Democratic party. They're fine with the procedure and willing to defend its legality.

//If someone takes heavy offense at being called "pro-abortion" then they're probably actually a closet fundie idiot that's only going along with rational policy because of peer pressure. There's absolutely no reason any person opposing attempts to make the procedure illegal should object to what is an entirely accurate term.


Saying somebody is pro-abortion is kinda like saying they're pro-chemotherapy. Just because you want to make a rational choice, and will be better off in the long run, doesn't mean you don't get sick.

Abortions for some. Miniature American flags for others.
 
2012-09-09 08:26:47 AM

jso2897: "It also supports a woman's right to abortion "regardless of ability to pay." This means Democrats officially support forcing taxpayers to pay for other people's abortions."

Oh, boo-hoo-hoo. Guess what, dickface - we live in this thing called "civilization" where we ALL have to pay for all kinds of things that will not benefit us directly, and that we would not choose to spend our own money on.
Deal with it.
When did the right wing develop this attitude that they should be free to "opt-out" of any social enterprise of which they disapprove? Have any of them considered what would result if EVERYBODY did that?

yeah allowing people to be conscientious objectors with their tax money might not be the best way forward for a society. I can think of lots of things I wouldn't want my money going towards.
 
2012-09-09 08:31:53 AM

Vertdang: They forget that THEY are the ones that brought this abortion of abortion back into the limelight.

/reap


That's the only issue they still have strong support from the middle on. Everything else has pretty much been exposed as bullshiat, and Obama has even managed to move the abortion debate into friendlier territory by expanding it to include birth control.

They are well and truly farked, maybe for a long, long time.
 
2012-09-09 08:36:06 AM

MFAWG: Vertdang: They forget that THEY are the ones that brought this abortion of abortion back into the limelight.

/reap

That's the only issue they still have strong support from the middle on. Everything else has pretty much been exposed as bullshiat, and Obama has even managed to move the abortion debate into friendlier territory by expanding it to include birth control.

They are well and truly farked, maybe for a long, long time.


I wouldn't underestimate the power of all that money and media they have. that along with a cult like following of their religious base can carry them.
 
2012-09-09 08:37:48 AM
Ummmm...

Wasn't this whole thing decided like, forty years ago?
 
2012-09-09 08:41:59 AM
Why if it isn't a convenient wedge issue that manipulates people more than it affects them. You shouldn't have. No really, it lacks integrity. You shouldn't have.
 
2012-09-09 08:44:20 AM

Umfufu: Ummmm...

Wasn't this whole thing decided like, forty years ago?


Funny thing about Republicans and 40 years ago... they'd like to head back to roughly that area.
 
2012-09-09 08:47:47 AM

LasersHurt: Umfufu: Ummmm...

Wasn't this whole thing decided like, forty years ago?

Funny thing about Republicans and 40 years ago... they'd like to head back to roughly that area.


nah they want to go farther than that. the 50's at least. just the "morals" and "values" part though. not the taxes,restricted trade nor the power of labor in politics part.
 
2012-09-09 08:51:16 AM

LasersHurt: Umfufu: Ummmm...

Wasn't this whole thing decided like, forty years ago?

Funny thing about Republicans and 40 years ago... they'd like to head back to roughly that area.


Further back actually, but it is to a false leave it to beaver Ayn Rand paradise that never was.
 
2012-09-09 08:58:16 AM

Raharu: LasersHurt: Umfufu: Ummmm...

Wasn't this whole thing decided like, forty years ago?

Funny thing about Republicans and 40 years ago... they'd like to head back to roughly that area.

Further back actually, but it is to a false leave it to beaver Ayn Rand paradise that never was.


Ayn Rand? hah back then the tax table had the rich paying a lot more. and labor had power in govt. enough to keep trade with China and others who wouldn't pay a fair wage or provide safe work environments from getting access to our markets.
 
2012-09-09 08:58:25 AM

casual disregard: Jisaw: That is one goddamned lazy title. That said... yeah. Of COURSE the Democratic Party is the party of abortion. Phrasing it that way is the work of a dickfart, but it still rings true.

It's settled. We're renaming the party from Democratic Party to Abortionist Party.

/tends to vote democratic
//never had an abortion


Bullcrap. Stop aborting all of our babies!
 
2012-09-09 09:05:31 AM
Pro-Life: Because Mississippi's teen pregancies are too low and their literacy is too high.
 
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