FirstNationalBastard: So, when Biden eviscerates Ryan in the VP debate, are the Republican concern trolls still going to be carrying on with the "Biden should have been dumped, he's a liability and TEH DUMBZ!" groupthink?

FirstNationalBastard: So, when Biden eviscerates Ryan in the VP debate, are the Republican concern trolls still going to be carrying on with the "Biden should have been dumped, he's a liability and TEH DUMBZ!" groupthink?

Yes. Because in their mind, Ryan will be the victor to them because the questions were too biased or some other BS like that.

When in reality it's just Paul Ryan complaining about not getting things his way and then having to resort to lying to make his point. 

Sorry for the harsh generalization of Ryan but this is my impression of him.

FirstNationalBastard: So, when Biden eviscerates Ryan in the VP debate, are the Republican concern trolls still going to be carrying on with the "Biden should have been dumped, he's a liability and TEH DUMBZ!" groupthink?

I dunno. It will be the first time any of them have actually listened to anything he's said since he debated Palin. And just being the same room with that woman makes you look about 40 IQ points lower than you are. They believe he's this goofy gaff factory with no redeeming qualities because it's all they ever hear about him.

thenewmissus 2012-09-09 11:23:09 AM

MyRandomName: thenewmissus: Isn't it awesome that the Dems can make that type of challenge. Republicans know that they can't even begin to make that statement. Republicans, or at least Independents should really take notice that only one party is daring enough to tell the press to fact check them and that the other is stating, :"We won't let our campaign be determined by fact checkers." It is a very telling sign.

You should check the fact checkers who already fact checked the DNC convention before making such bold statements. But no, since Biden dared them to, it must mean he had no exaggerations or lies in his speech....

Fark Libs really are off the rails in their adoration despite facts.

Umm......no. I will make this short since I am on my way to church. I don't pretend to believe that no democrats lie and all republicans lie. I meant exactly what I said. The lies of the left pale in comparison to the lies on the right. No matter which side you are on, you have to admit that there are more "mistatements" or "He misspoke" coming from the right than the left.

I am going to church to pray specifically FOR YOU.

You're a good human being.

Urbn: Biden is hands down my favorite VP ever. I will be sad not to have him in the White House come 2016 but look forward to another 4 years of awesome Onion articles, ice cream photo ops, and funny, off the cuff remarks. Go Joe!!

THIS!

/Plus I really wanna get a pair of those aviator shades now.

What's the article about though?

*click*

The "Romney Ryan plan would make Medicare go broke sooner" claim?

The non-partisan factcheck.org found that to be an exaggeration; while repeal of ACA would mean the earlier exhaustion of the part of Medicare that covers hospitals, the fund would still collect payroll taxes to cover the vast majority of hospital bills.

Oh, FFS. So yes, the plan that Ryan and Romney have both described as "protecting and preserving" Medicare would "exhaust" funds for Medicare "earlier" but because money would still be rolling in via payroll taxes it wouldn't technically "go broke"?

It's "End Medicare as we know it" all over again, isn't it?

Yeesh.

Meh, the important takeaways from this article are A) Biden rawks B) Ice Cream is delicious and C) The GOP work in lies, half truths, distortions and sins of omission the way painters work in oil and watercolor.

It is their medium.

/And it's rarely well done. 

He's like a favorite uncle. He just slays me.

Forty-Two: yohohogreengiant: I've always found Cali gelato delightful. Whereabouts in CA are you studying?

UC Santa Barbara. There's a good gelato place on State Street that serves flavors like fig mascarpone.

/It's by three froyo places.

Very nice, Forty-Two. I anchored there near the wharf once while delivering a boat northbound to Santa Cruz. It is a lovely town and I hope you enjoy your time there. A good friend's brother did his undergrad there.
There is good food to be had in Santa Barbara, even if you have to sift through an overabundance of froyo shops.
Here's a little known fact: In the 80's CA state law required every video rental store that stocked adult tapes to have a frozen yogurt shop within 100' of the establishment.
/I keed
//but it's true

PlasticMoby: Link

Fast forward to around 8:20. Stuff like that is why i adore Uncle Joe.

Oh man. I ROFL'd. That guy's got more great stories like that than all of the previous VPs put together.

All right, so I'm a little late to the party on this one...

Can anyone explain the whole 'Biden with a TransAm' meme? I don't get it, but it pops up in one way or another whenever there's a Biden story.

Of course, as we saw after the DNC, "fact checking" of the left includes somehow saying that Clinton can't point out when someone is lying because he got caught lying, so I'm not sure if this will work out in Biden's favor. They could pull ANYTHING out of their asses, and claim that it's fact checking.

TV's Vinnie: MartinD-35: TV's Vinnie: [i46.tinypic.com image 474x637]

You are the second person today who has gotten both a smart and funny vote for me. It's too much work to try and copy your pictures, but that is just farking priceless. You'd own me a new keyboard but I have tremendous self control.

Glad you like. Here's another one, just for you.

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The Romney one is wrong... Those Ferengis(sp?) always looked like they were based 100% on Ross Perot.

Mikey1969: All right, so I'm a little late to the party on this one...

Can anyone explain the whole 'Biden with a TransAm' meme? I don't get it, but it pops up in one way or another whenever there's a Biden story.

It's a recurring joke in The Onion.

Oh, and...

Animatronik: I think it's hilarious that you guys are going on about how great this guy is. It just shows that you don't give a shiat about whos running things as long as its your team.

Biden has been nothing but a liability for Obama. He is a figure of fun, routinely ridiculed on late night talk shows. Every other word out of his is something silly or a crude mistake that doesnt even need to be fact checked.


and hes a heartbeat from the presidency.

Remember how the right felt about Palin? I couldn't imagine what sort of individual wouldn't shudder at the thought of her being a heartbeat away from the presidency. It would have been like having Snooki as Veep, yet there they were - lining up to meet her.

The Bestest: [factreal.files.wordpress.com image 400x296]
You. Tonight.

Why is Biden always holding two ice cream cones? I want to believe that he's thoughtfully holding one for someone else, but deep in my heart I know he got both for himself.

Mrtraveler01: Wonder if Biden has had Grater's before?

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/One of the best ice cream experiences in his book

Biden should come to Ohio and try Jeni's ice cream.


They have incredible flavors like mango lassi and goat cheese cherry.

Graffito: The Bestest: [factreal.files.wordpress.com image 400x296]
You. Tonight.

Why is Biden always holding two ice cream cones? I want to believe that he's thoughtfully holding one for someone else, but deep in my heart I know he got both for himself. 

Mikey1969: TV's Vinnie: MartinD-35: TV's Vinnie: [i46.tinypic.com image 474x637]

You are the second person today who has gotten both a smart and funny vote for me. It's too much work to try and copy your pictures, but that is just farking priceless. You'd own me a new keyboard but I have tremendous self control.

Glad you like. Here's another one, just for you.

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The Romney one is wrong... Those Ferengis(sp?) always looked like they were based 100% on Ross Perot.

That wasn't just any Ferengi. That was Liquidator Brunt. Someone who goes around destroying other Ferengi's businesses, and enjoys firing people (sound like anyone we know?). Even other Ferengi hate him.

Mad Tea Party: [images.nymag.com image 560x420] 

The man loves him some DQ, NTTAWWT.

Does he actually finish all that ice cream from all those photo ops? Because if he does, he must work out a helluva lot. Just looking at all those photos is giving me a sugar induced migraine.

t3knomanser: You're all wrong:
Obama = Picard
Biden = Kirk
Romney = the Grand Nagus Brunt
Ryan = Archer Weyoun

FTFY'all

TyrantII: Don't Troll Me Bro!: Devoid: t3knomanser: You're all wrong:
Obama = Picard
Biden = Kirk
Romney = the Grand Nagus
Ryan = Archer

Archer, as in Sterling? That gives Ryan way too much credit. He could be Zapp, but that's as far as I'm willing to go.

I don't know. Archer is funny as hell, but he's also a terrible secret agent, he's narcissistic, has mommy issues, anger management issues, and is an alcoholic. You're mainly laughing at him, not with him.

Archers' still a fleet captain...

This one is easy, Ryan = the captain of that TNG race that needs things "to make them go". I Call em the count to potato race, cause I can't remember their name.

The Pakleds.
"We are smart"

To be honest, I liked that race, because it showed -- starkly -- how humans must appear to the Q. No one can know everything. We usually see humans from the standpoint of godlike to the natives, or on an even par, or on the cusp of greatness. We hardly ever see humans from the standpoint of Ascended types -- on any sci-fi show-- unless it's to show that humans are just as good as they are. That's not true, though.

That race is out in space in spite of not creating many of the wonders it uses, because it's learned to adapt those wonders to their own needs. They didn't have to create it, just use it without getting themselves blown up.

How come we never saw them again?

TV's Vinnie: That wasn't just any Ferengi. That was Liquidator Brunt. Someone who goes around destroying other Ferengi's businesses, and enjoys firing people (sound like anyone we know?). Even other Ferengi hate him.

FirstNationalBastard: /and Paul Ryan is more a Pakled than Armus.


Dang it, I'm always late. Sorry, dudes.

thenewmissus: Isn't it awesome that the Dems can make that type of challenge. Republicans know that they can't even begin to make that statement. Republicans, or at least Independents should really take notice that only one party is daring enough to tell the press to fact check them and that the other is stating, :"We won't let our campaign be determined by fact checkers." It is a very telling sign.

Oh, they can make that challenge all they want. Their defense is to call the facts themselves "biased". It doesn't mean that it's a valid defense, just that they can actually make the challenge.

terriblist: Not the Onion. The Secret Service is a nice perk sometimes.

By the way the two guys are looking at him...he should be glad the SS is around somewhere...armed.

Wait'll the republicans find out that Shatner is a frog from Montreal, and a JEWISH Frog at that.

Biden is awesome! Eats ice creams, makes passes at biker's broads (right in front of the biker's face, no less!), and isn't afraid of anything.

TV's Vinnie: Biden is awesome! Eats ice creams, makes passes at biker's broads (right in front of the biker's face, no less!), and isn't afraid of anything.

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Oh my. I hear right wing heads exploding. I love the look on the two guys faces. lol.

FirstNationalBastard: So, when Biden eviscerates Ryan in the VP debate, are the Republican concern trolls still going to be carrying on with the "Biden should have been dumped, he's a liability and TEH DUMBZ!" groupthink?

No. When they lose and lose decisively, Republicans go into Martyr Mode. It's the reason that Biden didn't go after Palin too badly in their debate; he had to sit back and let her make a fool of herself, because if he went on the attack the dominant story would be that he's a bully.

I'm genuinely not sure if they'd do the same for Ryan. I mean, he's supposed to be the tough smart guy willing to tell Hard Truths^TM, so they'd look dumb trying to play the victim. But the GOP is able to get away with so much counterintuitive crap that I think they'd try it anyway. Joe will become the big bad meanie who won't let Ryan tell his Hard Truths, until the debate goes down the memory hole. Then he'll go back to being a dumb liability.

Tusz: I'm genuinely not sure if they'd do the same for Ryan. I mean, he's supposed to be the tough smart guy willing to tell Hard TruthsTM, so they'd look dumb trying to play the victim. But the GOP is able to get away with so much counterintuitive crap that I think they'd try it anyway. Joe will become the big bad meanie who won't let Ryan tell his Hard Truths, until the debate goes down the memory hole. Then he'll go back to being a dumb liability.

There's always a chance that Biden will be able to maneuver Ryan into making a fool of himself, and that will be all anyone will take away from the debate.

Obama = Picard
Biden = Dr. McCoy
Romney = Gul Dukat
Ryan = Neelix

/Clinton is Kirk

Tusz: Obama = Picard
Biden = Dr. McCoy
Romney = Gul Dukat
Ryan = Neelix

/Clinton is Kirk

Please don't insult Neelix like that. I love his character. I don't want to think of Paul Ryan when I watch my Voyager box set.

Animatronik: Biden has been nothing but a liability for Obama. He is a figure of fun, routinely ridiculed on late night talk shows. Every other word out of his is something silly or a crude mistake that doesnt even need to be fact checked.


and hes a heartbeat from the presidency.

I realize you might be European or African or Southeast Asian, in which case you do not necessarily have a lot of exposure to the USA and its major TV shows and literature from the past 50 years. So here's what you are missing: the VP is an extremely common source of ridicule in US pop culture. every VP has been a popular target since Reagan's years. Every network talk show will make a joke about the VP at least once per episode. newspapers will do it weekly, and especially humorist's columns, like Dave Berry for example. The VP is always ridiculed. That is part of modern Americana.

TalenLee: Seriously, where the fark did Joe Biden come from? He's like some sort of megabot of awesome qualifications. If you told me there was a politician with just one of his major traits I'd go 'he sounds like a cool guy.' Then you pile them all together and you have this grandfatherly figure who's suffered amazing personal tragedy, worked his ass off, rode the train to work with a lunch pail, is the father to a soldier, and who also speaks really well in public with this wonderfully genuine ability to slip up. Even when he makes mistakes, it's this really reasonable, relatable kind of mistake. It's not like Romney not being able to identify a donut, it's a sort of 'Oh shiat, I can imagine farking up like that.'

He's a lifetime politician yet still awesome. How is it possible? HOW???

thenewmissus: Tusz: Obama = Picard
Biden = Dr. McCoy
Romney = Gul Dukat
Ryan = Neelix

/Clinton is Kirk

Please don't insult Neelix like that. I love his character. I don't want to think of Paul Ryan when I watch my Voyager box set.

I might be thinking of the wrong guy, it's been a while. Is he the one who says stuff like "I'm a great chef" and then farks up massively whenever he tries to prove it?

Tusz: Obama = Picard
Biden = Dr. McCoy
Romney = Gul Dukat
Ryan = Neelix

/Clinton is Kirk

Romney & Ryan =

Tusz: thenewmissus: Tusz: Obama = Picard
Biden = Dr. McCoy
Romney = Gul Dukat
Ryan = Neelix

/Clinton is Kirk

Please don't insult Neelix like that. I love his character. I don't want to think of Paul Ryan when I watch my Voyager box set.

I might be thinking of the wrong guy, it's been a while. Is he the one who says stuff like "I'm a great chef" and then farks up massively whenever he tries to prove it?

Yep. That was him. Neelix was the Talaxian who was with Kes (The Ocampa). I hated Kes but I loved Neelix

Nem Wan: TalenLee: Seriously, where the fark did Joe Biden come from? He's like some sort of megabot of awesome qualifications. If you told me there was a politician with just one of his major traits I'd go 'he sounds like a cool guy.' Then you pile them all together and you have this grandfatherly figure who's suffered amazing personal tragedy, worked his ass off, rode the train to work with a lunch pail, is the father to a soldier, and who also speaks really well in public with this wonderfully genuine ability to slip up. Even when he makes mistakes, it's this really reasonable, relatable kind of mistake. It's not like Romney not being able to identify a donut, it's a sort of 'Oh shiat, I can imagine farking up like that.'

He's a lifetime politician yet still awesome. How is it possible? HOW???
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He's the poorest guy in the Senate, that's how.

Seriously.