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(New York Daily News)   If you thought that MLB umpire Jerry Meals couldn't top his blown call from last year's Atlanta/Pittsburgh game, well I've got a surprise for you   (nydailynews.com ) divider line
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2012-09-09 12:17:57 AM  
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2012-09-09 12:40:33 AM  

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Still not even

 
2012-09-09 12:45:49 AM  
#umpshow
 
2012-09-09 12:59:19 AM  
To the idiots equating this to Jeffrey Maier, this call was 4 feet away from the umpire's eyes and the ball was at least 3 feet from 1B when Tex hit the bag, so fark that noise. Yanks got screwed today.
 
2012-09-09 01:01:27 AM  
Look, I'm as pro-replay as anyone, and the call was clearly wrong.

BUT

I've got no problem with calling people who dive into first "out" just on principle.

(Honestly, if he hadn't dove, I pretty much guarantee he would've been called safe. A big part of umpiring at first is listening to what happens first: foot hitting bag or ball hitting glove. If you dive, you just messed up the sound you're making.

Plus, you know, the whole "slows you down" thing.)
 
2012-09-09 01:01:48 AM  
Now that the Yankees have been burned by a blown call, you can bet replay is coming for everything.

/you're welcome
//haters to the left
 
2012-09-09 01:02:42 AM  

legendary: To the idiots equating this to Jeffrey Maier, this call was 4 feet away from the umpire's eyes and the ball was at least 3 feet from 1B when Tex hit the bag, so fark that noise. Yanks got screwed today.


Plus, a single is worth just as much as a home run. More, if you're Joe Morgan
 
2012-09-09 01:04:54 AM  

legendary: To the idiots equating this to Jeffrey Maier, this call was 4 feet away from the umpire's eyes and the ball was at least 3 feet from 1B when Tex hit the bag, so fark that noise. Yanks got screwed today.


That call was in the ALCS, this one came with 23 games remaining in the season. Still not even.

DeWayne Mann: Honestly, if he hadn't dove, I pretty much guarantee he would've been called safe.


This.
 
2012-09-09 01:06:20 AM  
As a Met fan, this pleases me.
 
2012-09-09 01:16:53 AM  

DeWayne Mann: if he hadn't dove, I pretty much guarantee he would've been called safe. A big part of umpiring at first is listening to what happens first: foot hitting bag or ball hitting glove.


This.

Cry moar, Yankee fans.
 
2012-09-09 01:19:57 AM  
Farking horrendous. Join the 21st century and enough with this "human element" garbage.
 
2012-09-09 01:47:53 AM  

robsul82: Farking horrendous. Join the 21st century and enough with this "human element" garbage.


I'd be fine with one challenge per manager, possibly upped to a max of two if the first challenge leads to a call being changed. But my opinion on that has nothing to do with this game, I see questionable calls every single game. I saw much shiattier umpiring tonight in the game between the Tigers and the Angels. Most of that had to do with the home-plate ump having to leave the game and they only had three umps after that.
 
2012-09-09 02:16:46 AM  
I bet the O's would take the loss if they could get Markakis back. Losing him really hurts. They are far more bummed than the Yankees.
 
2012-09-09 02:42:05 AM  

legendary: To the idiots equating this to Jeffrey Maier, this call was 4 feet away from the umpire's eyes and the ball was at least 3 feet from 1B when Tex hit the bag, so fark that noise. Yanks got screwed today.


Of course it's stupid to equate Maier to this. Maier's shiatty call was in a playoff game.
 
2012-09-09 02:44:01 AM  

Triumph: I bet the O's would take the loss if they could get Markakis back. Losing him really hurts. They are far more bummed than the Yankees.


Let's give that guy a hand!

/Too soon? I'm all thumbs with this sort of thing.
 
2012-09-09 03:03:10 AM  

violentsalvation: DeWayne Mann: if he hadn't dove, I pretty much guarantee he would've been called safe. A big part of umpiring at first is listening to what happens first: foot hitting bag or ball hitting glove.

This.


LISTEN up baseballers: umps are trained to follow the ball through the air and "line up" the sound of its impact in the glove with the sound of the runner stepping on the base. When you remove that sound by sliding, you FORCE the ump to follow the ball into the mitt and THEN look down at the bag. This is what Meals saw when he looked down:

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(Actually that was well after the ball was caught, but in either case:) No part of his upper body was touching the bag, and his entire right arm appears to have missed the base as well. Yes, his left hand is on the bag, but the first baseman's foot is obstructing the view. Of course he shouldn't have blown the call, but you're ASKING for a wrong call when you slide headfirst.
 
2012-09-09 03:09:27 AM  

Harv72b: Triumph: I bet the O's would take the loss if they could get Markakis back. Losing him really hurts. They are far more bummed than the Yankees.

Let's give that guy a hand!

/Too soon? I'm all thumbs with this sort of thing.


I liked what Showalter said after the game: "Most people don't care about our problems, except they're glad we've got them."
 
2012-09-09 03:14:04 AM  

DeWayne Mann: Plus, you know, the whole "slows you down" thing.


I hate to disagree because I do think sliding gets you there faster. Assuming you time it so that you land just before the base (i.e. you don't make significant contact with the ground before your hand reaches the base, which of course will slow you down from friction), you're essentially keeping your center-of-gravity the same, but trading off your legs getting there a little later for your hands getting there a little sooner.

It's why outfielders dive. On some of those plays there would be absolutely no way to catch the ball if they hadn't gone into a headfirst dive. Same principle applies.
 
2012-09-09 03:15:10 AM  

DeltaPunch: DeWayne Mann: Plus, you know, the whole "slows you down" thing.

I hate to disagree because I do think sliding gets you there faster.



Sorry, I meant to say that I hate to disagree because I DO think it's stupid to do it.

/carry on
 
2012-09-09 03:21:51 AM  

DeltaPunch: It's why outfielders dive. On some of those plays there would be absolutely no way to catch the ball if they hadn't gone into a headfirst dive. Same principle applies.


If you could score an out by "kicking" a baseball mid-air, players would probably not dive.
 
2012-09-09 03:24:59 AM  

DeWayne Mann: Look, I'm as pro-replay as anyone, and the call was clearly wrong.

BUT

I've got no problem with calling people who dive into first "out" just on principle.


Do you have a problem with throwing at a guy who showboats a home run the next time he's up?

/Just wanna be clear on which "unwritten rules" you go by.
 
2012-09-09 03:25:20 AM  
And, I mean, assuming that wouldn't break your foot.

The point is, catching a baseball is similar to diving for a base in only one way. One can touch base WITHOUT needing to put a hand or glove on it. When going to first,you don't need to "stay" on the base (which would me more akin to a player diving for a baseball).

There are actually situations where a dive may not be a bad thing, such as a bad throw where a tag is necessary or, say, being a pitcher who doesn't have a proper stride.
 
2012-09-09 03:31:43 AM  
Now, if first base could be envisioned as a "structure" that has an infinite height with dimensions equal to the base, diving for first base would be a good idea. But generally one loses a bit of momentum when having to dive down "at" an object, when they can simply run "through" an object. Clearly, if one is trying to grasp something while on the move, like a mid-flight baseball or an XFL "coin flip," diving at the object is smart.
 
2012-09-09 03:32:18 AM  
Well, that, and slightly increases the distance of their necessary traveled path.
 
2012-09-09 03:55:40 AM  

DeltaPunch: violentsalvation: DeWayne Mann: if he hadn't dove, I pretty much guarantee he would've been called safe. A big part of umpiring at first is listening to what happens first: foot hitting bag or ball hitting glove.

This.

LISTEN up baseballers: umps are trained to follow the ball through the air and "line up" the sound of its impact in the glove with the sound of the runner stepping on the base. When you remove that sound by sliding, you FORCE the ump to follow the ball into the mitt and THEN look down at the bag. This is what Meals saw when he looked down:

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(Actually that was well after the ball was caught, but in either case:) No part of his upper body was touching the bag, and his entire right arm appears to have missed the base as well. Yes, his left hand is on the bag, but the first baseman's foot is obstructing the view. Of course he shouldn't have blown the call, but you're ASKING for a wrong call when you slide headfirst.


Er, no.

Umpires LOOK AT THE BAG, to see if his foot is still on it. They listen for the slap of the ball hitting it to determine what happened first, then look up to make sure he caught it.
 
2012-09-09 04:00:17 AM  

puffy999: DeltaPunch: It's why outfielders dive. On some of those plays there would be absolutely no way to catch the ball if they hadn't gone into a headfirst dive. Same principle applies.

If you could score an out by "kicking" a baseball mid-air, players would probably not dive.


No, I've thought of that and you definitely have more range when you dive. Again, you're moving your legs behind your center-of-mass so that your arms can extend farther ahead of it. Personally, I've dove for fly balls that felt like they were a good 6-10 feet ahead of me. It's almost like making a leap of faith because you know they are going to land farther away from where you would be if you just keep running. I know anecdote is not science, but I also know my limits and there's no way I could have kicked some of those balls had I simply kept running.

As far as I know, there's been no hard scientific examination of whether diving really gets you there faster. I think we need to petition the Mythbuster crew on this one...
 
2012-09-09 04:02:46 AM  

haemaker: DeltaPunch: violentsalvation: DeWayne Mann: if he hadn't dove, I pretty much guarantee he would've been called safe. A big part of umpiring at first is listening to what happens first: foot hitting bag or ball hitting glove.

This.

LISTEN up baseballers: umps are trained to follow the ball through the air and "line up" the sound of its impact in the glove with the sound of the runner stepping on the base. When you remove that sound by sliding, you FORCE the ump to follow the ball into the mitt and THEN look down at the bag. This is what Meals saw when he looked down:

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(Actually that was well after the ball was caught, but in either case:) No part of his upper body was touching the bag, and his entire right arm appears to have missed the base as well. Yes, his left hand is on the bag, but the first baseman's foot is obstructing the view. Of course he shouldn't have blown the call, but you're ASKING for a wrong call when you slide headfirst.

Er, no.

Umpires LOOK AT THE BAG, to see if his foot is still on it. They listen for the slap of the ball hitting it to determine what happened first, then look up to make sure he caught it.


This. They look at the bag because they have to see both when the runner's foot hits the bag AND whether the 1B's foot stays on the bag. You always hear umpires admit that they can't see everything at once, so they listen for the sound of the ball hitting the mitt while watching the bag. Meals simply blew this call, plain and simple.

I was in the camp of criticizing Teixeira for diving, but after the game he said his injured calf was tightening again, so he dove because he wasn't sure his calf would give him full speed at the end. He did say he never dives into first, which makes me believe he knows diving usually slows you down, so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt this time.
 
2012-09-09 04:10:04 AM  

haemaker: Umpires LOOK AT THE BAG, to see if his foot is still on it. They listen for the slap of the ball hitting it to determine what happened first, then look up to make sure he caught it.


I may not have been totally clear, but they follow the ball in the air then look down at the bag before it is caught. They watch for the foot while they listen for the catch. In either case, if the first baseman's foot was blocking the view of the inside hand, no other part of Teixeira's body touched the bag (including the leading outside arm) until nearly his stomach was on top of the bag. I think that's why he blew the call.
 
2012-09-09 04:10:14 AM  
Most of you are arguing for the ump are thinking of snap second plays. This was not even close. The ump farked up, and you can bet if the Yankees lose the division by one game and get knocked out in a wild card 1 off, shiat will hit the fan.Selig does not want the Yankees out of the playoffs, and really does not want a team like Tampa in with 13,000 old bastards in 3rd filled stadium playing on national tv.

/A Tampa Bay/ Oakland series would be his nightmare. They couldn't paper either stadium if they tried
 
2012-09-09 04:19:36 AM  

puffy999: But generally one loses a bit of momentum when having to dive down "at" an object


This is why I can't say for sure whether diving gets you to first base faster or not. I know it absolutely extends your range for a fly ball, but that's for something 1 or 2 feet off the ground. Also, when you dive to first you don't leave the ground like an outfielder does when landing on soft grass -- instead, you fall towards the ground so that you don't land as hard, which definitely slows you down a bit. I just don't think there's conclusive evidence as to whether it really helps or not.
 
2012-09-09 04:31:47 AM  

Harv72b: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 349x420]
Still not even


This. Yankee fans can call this a "blown call." The rest of the world will call it reparations for many years of obnoxiousness.
 
2012-09-09 04:40:58 AM  

hbk72777: Most of you are arguing for the ump are thinking of snap second plays. This was not even close. The ump farked up, and you can bet if the Yankees lose the division by one game and get knocked out in a wild card 1 off, shiat will hit the fan.Selig does not want the Yankees out of the playoffs, and really does not want a team like Tampa in with 13,000 old bastards in 3rd filled stadium playing on national tv.

/A Tampa Bay/ Oakland series would be his nightmare. They couldn't paper either stadium if they tried


I know that this wasn't the point of your comment, but I'm going to rant about it anyway: Who cares what Selig wants? He's an incompetent nincompoop who's only in the position he's in because he was an owner. He comes across as smarmy and some of his moves are mind bogglingly stupid and/or self-interested. e.g. the Brewers and Astros ending up switching leagues; the tie would not have been reintroduced to baseball after many years.
 
2012-09-09 05:24:45 AM  

DeltaPunch: Personally, I've dove for fly balls that felt like they were a good 6-10 feet ahead of me.


Most diving fly balls aren't caught, literally, "on" the ground.
 
2012-09-09 05:26:28 AM  

DeltaPunch: I know it absolutely extends your range for a fly ball, but that's for something 1 or 2 feet off the ground.


Oh, you mentioned that already. Carry on, then.
 
2012-09-09 07:03:30 AM  
Yankees got screwed, so ha.
 
2012-09-09 07:32:54 AM  
Since it was the Yankees getting screwed, I'm okay with it.
 
2012-09-09 08:02:41 AM  
Yes, the call was wrong. But my initial reaction to that play wasn't to be mad at the ump. It was to be mad at Teixeira for being a dumbass and sliding.


/Is there a coach on this team that is teaching these guy to slide into first?
 
2012-09-09 08:04:16 AM  
Yankees the victim of a bad call?

Oh. Sorry, fellers.

/goes back to his team that gives up crooked numbers in the first inning. Every. Farking. Night.
 
2012-09-09 08:25:24 AM  
Since the article only had photos and not video, I still don't know if he was safe. But what I find funny is the Yankee mindset. If it benefits the Yanks, the position is 'Shiat happens, get over it'. If it goes against them we get all this 'HOW CAN WE TOLERATE THE INCOMPETENCE? OH THE HUMANITY! AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!' That's fuggin hilarius.
 
2012-09-09 08:56:56 AM  
And Girardi needs to keep his shiat together. Yelling at Sherman isn't going to do anything except give the media another story to run with. Yes, their annoying at times (probably all the time). But it's freakin New York. That's what the media does.
 
2012-09-09 09:09:06 AM  

Crewmannumber6: Since the article only had photos and not video, I still don't know if he was safe.


Play at first base
 
2012-09-09 09:19:04 AM  
Whoever said there's no crying in baseball never met Mark Teixeira. Maybe the umpires are tired of his constant whining. I just wish one day one of these head first slide guys is going to wind up with a face full of spikes.
 
2012-09-09 09:43:15 AM  
Couldn't have happened to a more deserving team. I wonder if the Yankees will back into the playoffs.
 
2012-09-09 09:56:51 AM  
Awful call.

That said, based on just the 2009 postseason, let alone Jeffrey Maier, I don't see how any Yankee fan can dare complain about poor umpiring with a straight face. At least not unless the call directly decides the outcome of a postseason series or playoff position.
 
2012-09-09 10:06:50 AM  
I think FOX should start televising games and make the the fielder's glove light up when the ball hits it. Also the baserunner's cleats should make the base light up when they touch the bag (or their bodies; of course you'd have to turn off the defensive player's cleats somehow).

This would take care of everything... and make the game much more exciting.

/Damn you Bettman and FOX
 
2012-09-09 10:08:14 AM  
Consolation Yanks fans: Nick Markakis out for season with broken thumb
 
2012-09-09 10:22:04 AM  

legendary: To the idiots equating this to Jeffrey Maier, this call was 4 feet away from the umpire's eyes and the ball was at least 3 feet from 1B when Tex hit the bag, so fark that noise. Yanks got screwed today.


yankee tears, so clean, so refreshing.
 
2012-09-09 10:23:25 AM  
Yankees lost. I'm OK with this.
 
2012-09-09 10:33:48 AM  
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2012-09-09 10:34:20 AM  

Principal Clarinet: Crewmannumber6: Since the article only had photos and not video, I still don't know if he was safe.

Play at first base


Yeah, he was safe. But all the same, f*#k the Yankees
 
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