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(China Daily)   With more Chinese flying, experts call for better passenger behavior on airlines. No punching other passengers, no abusing the stewardess, no all-female melees, no smoking in lavatory, no.... hey wait, keep those melees   (chinadaily.com.cn) divider line 52
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2012-09-08 04:11:40 PM
What about playing joke?
 
2012-09-08 04:44:22 PM
As for the swiss flight, the plane was already over Moscow, 6 hours on the air. The others passengers have shown a heavy restrain not to linch these idiots when told the plane would turn back to the departure airport, 6 hours away.
 
2012-09-08 04:44:33 PM
how about treating your citizens like .... citizens
 
2012-09-08 04:48:26 PM
s10.postimage.org
 
2012-09-08 04:48:31 PM
Everybody was Kung -fu fighting...
 
2012-09-08 04:49:21 PM
1.bp.blogspot.com

These problems are easily solved.


/It's a TSA wet dream
 
2012-09-08 04:49:39 PM
Squatting and pooping in the aisle is still okay though?
 
2012-09-08 04:52:28 PM
Maybe I'm missing something but why would you turn around 6 hours into the flight instead of restraining the parties for the remaining 4 or 5 hours or diverting to a closer airport to boot them off? Hell, you'd have to do something with them for the six hours back anyway. And 12 hours to go nowhere with all the rest of your travel plans screwed up? I'm surprised the rest of the passengers didn't riot, if that's really what happened.
 
2012-09-08 04:53:21 PM

greenwald: As for the swiss flight, the plane was already over Moscow, 6 hours on the air. The others passengers have shown a heavy restrain not to linch these idiots when told the plane would turn back to the departure airport, 6 hours away.


I suspect it's a matter of passports--the people involved probably didn't have visas for Russia.
 
2012-09-08 04:56:31 PM

kidsizedcoffin: Squatting and pooping in the aisle is still okay though?


blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com

Only for Americans.
 
2012-09-08 04:57:12 PM

Loren: greenwald: As for the swiss flight, the plane was already over Moscow, 6 hours on the air. The others passengers have shown a heavy restrain not to linch these idiots when told the plane would turn back to the departure airport, 6 hours away.

I suspect it's a matter of passports--the people involved probably didn't have visas for Russia.



Which is why passenger jets should have bomb bay doors.
 
2012-09-08 04:57:33 PM

immafattie: [s10.postimage.org image 180x180]


ROTFL!
 
2012-09-08 05:04:59 PM

immafattie: [s10.postimage.org image 180x180]


This is going to be me soon enough. Minus the cigarette, plus a wine glass.
 
2012-09-08 05:08:03 PM

srewolf: Maybe I'm missing something but why would you turn around 6 hours into the flight instead of restraining the parties for the remaining 4 or 5 hours or diverting to a closer airport to boot them off? Hell, you'd have to do something with them for the six hours back anyway. And 12 hours to go nowhere with all the rest of your travel plans screwed up? I'm surprised the rest of the passengers didn't riot, if that's really what happened.


Just commenting from what was told on our local news.
The captain decided to fly back to Zurich because it was easier and cheaper (paperwork and taxes to land on Russia airport) to rerout back to a swiss airport. The passengers were not seen as a danger for the flight.

The older unruly passenger have been charged by swiss authority to pay a 90 day-fine (a swiss speciality.. for lesser offences you are expected to be judged and only pay a fine, 1 day-fine is calculated on your salary and is something like 1.5/25 of your salary).
 
2012-09-08 05:08:08 PM
CSB

I flew a red-eye home from the Pacific Northwest last week. I'm a stocky guy, so I was pleased to see a frail little Asian man in the seat next to me. "Great!" says I. "No crowding, I can actually sleep in comfort!"

Not so. I woke up six....SIX times and had to push the little farker away from me. I would have had less invasion of my personal space if John Candy were sitting next to me.

/CSB
 
2012-09-08 05:26:14 PM

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: CSB

I flew a red-eye home from the Pacific Northwest last week. I'm a stocky guy, so I was pleased to see a frail little Asian man in the seat next to me. "Great!" says I. "No crowding, I can actually sleep in comfort!"

Not so. I woke up six....SIX times and had to push the little farker away from me. I would have had less invasion of my personal space if John Candy were sitting next to me.

/CSB


Asians have a much different (non-existent) sense of personal space than Americans.
 
2012-09-08 05:30:03 PM
Days ago another Farker wrote of their experience in China. They were surprised that the little communists did not work together to get along, but instead displayed a 'fark you i got mine' attitude. How the little coke pissers would not wait for red lights, instead just honking and driving through.

I'm not surprised. In America we are surrounded by people from all over the world. We are raised to be respectful and polite toward each other. To be patient, kind and loving. In the melting pot we are aware of our differences and we try to compensate for it.

In China it's all chinky chinky Chinamen. Short, rude little bastards with no regard for anyone. All cut from the same little Fortune Cookie mold. You come to America, we love you long time. You go to China, they pee pee in your Coke. Remember that next time you plan your vacation abroad.

PS: I like Chinese food as much as the next guy, but that's all they got in China. You come to America, you can eat anything you want, baby. You can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant.
 
2012-09-08 05:32:47 PM

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: Not so. I woke up six....SIX times and had to push the little farker away from me. I would have had less invasion of my personal space if John Candy were sitting next to me.


If it had been John Candy, you could have curled up on his belly and slept like a kitten.
 
2012-09-08 05:41:19 PM
"As a passenger, one should follow basic regulations - such as not running, fighting or destroying facilities on the airplane,"

What's saddest of all is that people actually have to be told this. I knew that Chinese folks were not known for their etiquette skills but WTF??
 
2012-09-08 05:51:10 PM

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: CSB

I flew a red-eye home from the Pacific Northwest last week. I'm a stocky guy, so I was pleased to see a frail little Asian man in the seat next to me. "Great!" says I. "No crowding, I can actually sleep in comfort!"

Not so. I woke up six....SIX times and had to push the little farker away from me. I would have had less invasion of my personal space if John Candy were sitting next to me.

/CSB


I've ridden near-empty buses and had elderly Asian dudes sit right next to me instead of taking one of the millions of empty seats. Granted, my personal space is about 5 metres across, but even people who weren't a touch-phobic as me would be weirded out.
 
2012-09-08 05:59:51 PM

Bondith: NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: CSB

I flew a red-eye home from the Pacific Northwest last week. I'm a stocky guy, so I was pleased to see a frail little Asian man in the seat next to me. "Great!" says I. "No crowding, I can actually sleep in comfort!"

Not so. I woke up six....SIX times and had to push the little farker away from me. I would have had less invasion of my personal space if John Candy were sitting next to me.

/CSB

I've ridden near-empty buses and had elderly Asian dudes sit right next to me instead of taking one of the millions of empty seats. Granted, my personal space is about 5 metres across, but even people who weren't a touch-phobic as me would be weirded out.


How come it's never a cute little Asian girl intruding on my space?

/ok, or any cute girl
 
2012-09-08 06:03:55 PM

srewolf: Asians have a much different (non-existent) sense of personal space than Americans.


Seeing as there's so little space to go around over in Asia (relatively speaking), you would think they would highly value their personal space. But nope, just hang all over everyone.
 
2012-09-08 06:07:56 PM
Left Singapore on a 2am JAL to Tokyo. Put my seat back and zzzd out. 5 hours later the female flight attendent slams my seat forward and asks what I want to drink with breakfast. (Breakfast consisting of hot shrimp and rice at @5am...yuck) The green tea kept me wired on the next hop to San Francisco though.
 
2012-09-08 06:08:51 PM
FTFA: "Fang had reportedly drunk alcohol before boarding the plane. Fang, heavily criticized by netizens, is being investigated by authorities."

You'd think they'd cut Fang a bit of a break since his wife, Phyllis Diller died just last week.



P.S. Another brick in the wall towards ratifying the TCB, Typical Chinese BS, tag
 
2012-09-08 06:12:24 PM
The biggest problem is usually the odors - pit, crotch but worst of all breath. Ever been breathed at by a just-off-the-boat chinese person? It's like chewing tobacco mixed with rotten meat.
 
2012-09-08 06:22:25 PM
Flying Chinese? Ya don't say?

www.whatifoundfunny.com
 
2012-09-08 06:23:24 PM
As best I could tell from my experience on the local roadways, they've yet to even learn how to drive a car and now you're telling me they're allowed to fly?
 
2012-09-08 06:24:54 PM
MemeSlave
The biggest problem is usually the odors - pit, crotch but worst of all breath. Ever been breathed at by a just-off-the-boat chinese person? It's like chewing tobacco mixed with rotten meat.


We sours drink too much milk, so it averages out.
 
2012-09-08 06:26:38 PM
I recall in a thread dealing with tourists people said that the Chinese and Brazilian tourists were the worst. I guess the thing to do would be to put the chinese and brazilians on the same plane and see what happens.
 
2012-09-08 06:38:16 PM

gibbon1: NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: Not so. I woke up six....SIX times and had to push the little farker away from me. I would have had less invasion of my personal space if John Candy were sitting next to me.

If it had been John Candy, you could have curled up on his belly and slept like a kitten.


A kitten between two warm pillows.
 
2012-09-08 06:49:48 PM

snocone: gibbon1: NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: Not so. I woke up six....SIX times and had to push the little farker away from me. I would have had less invasion of my personal space if John Candy were sitting next to me.

If it had been John Candy, you could have curled up on his belly and slept like a kitten.

A kitten between two warm pillows.


Those aren't pillows......


/seriously...it was beyond personal space in vasion, the little farker kept elbowing me in the ribs! I wanted to climb out of the plane and sleep on the wing.
 
2012-09-08 06:56:14 PM

KrispyKritter: In China it's all chinky chinky Chinamen. Short, rude little bastards with no regard for anyone. All cut from the same little Fortune Cookie mold.


Can't get fortune cookies in China.
But yeah..goddamn mainlanders...
 
2012-09-08 07:54:01 PM
The worst part is having the spoiled son of a corrupt official drifing his Ferrari up and down the aisles shouting "do you know who I am"?
 
2012-09-08 08:27:48 PM

Gergesa: I recall in a thread dealing with tourists people said that the Chinese and Brazilian tourists were the worst. I guess the thing to do would be to put the chinese and brazilians on the same plane and see what happens.


German and Israeli tourists aren't so hot either.
 
2012-09-08 08:32:48 PM

Amos Quito: Loren: greenwald: As for the swiss flight, the plane was already over Moscow, 6 hours on the air. The others passengers have shown a heavy restrain not to linch these idiots when told the plane would turn back to the departure airport, 6 hours away.

I suspect it's a matter of passports--the people involved probably didn't have visas for Russia.


Which is why passenger jets should have bomb bay doors.


DB Cooper.

KrispyKritter: Days ago another Farker wrote of their experience in China. They were surprised that the little communists did not work together to get along, but instead displayed a 'fark you i got mine' attitude. How the little coke pissers would not wait for red lights, instead just honking and driving through.


Yup. Why he was surprised I don't know, though. I was nearly hit by a bus--I knew the bus simply couldn't turn left so I figured he was going to stop. No--he was intending to turn right from the left turn lane--on red.

I'm not surprised. In America we are surrounded by people from all over the world. We are raised to be respectful and polite toward each other. To be patient, kind and loving. In the melting pot we are aware of our differences and we try to compensate for it.

In China it's all chinky chinky Chinamen. Short, rude little bastards with no regard for anyone. All cut from the same little Fortune Cookie mold. You come to America, we love you long time. You go to China, they pee pee in your Coke. Remember that next time you plan your vacation abroad.


I disagree. They've lived in a society of corruption for ages, it's what you would expect to happen.

PS: I like Chinese food as much as the next guy, but that's all they got in China. You come to America, you can eat anything you want, baby. You can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant.

All they have??? You'll find other types of food there, they're just not as common.
 
2012-09-08 09:18:49 PM

Gergesa: I recall in a thread dealing with tourists people said that the Chinese and Brazilian tourists were the worst. I guess the thing to do would be to put the chinese and brazilians on the same plane and see what happens.


The Brazilians are at least attractive
 
2012-09-08 09:33:38 PM

Zeno-25: Seeing as there's so little space to go around over in Asia (relatively speaking), you would think they would highly value their personal space. But nope, just hang all over everyone.


In my experience Chinese people do have a well-defined personal space, it just ends about 1mm from their skin. They are in their own very tight-fitting bubble and completely focused on themselves. They treat anything within inches - whether it be a line-up of people, or the guy in the seat next them - as if they aren't there. I think it must be a survival mechanism from living in a country with 1 billion people. You see the same sort of thing in India.
 
2012-09-08 09:40:06 PM
Days ago another Farker wrote of their experience in China. They were surprised that the little communists did not work together to get along, but instead displayed a 'fark you i got mine' attitude. How the little coke pissers would not wait for red lights, instead just honking and driving through.

I've been to China 5 times and lived there for about a year. (It helps if you can speak the language passably well, but that's true for any foreign country.)

It sounds like this individual isn't used to traveling outside of the First World.

Yeah, China can be rough and there's some unpredictability. The roughness and unpredictability grows by leaps and bounds the farther away you get from a major city which foreigners frequent. If the person was complaining about Beijing or Shanghai, God help them if they went someplace more difficult.

I'd advise whiners and snowflakes to stay away from China.
 
2012-09-08 09:55:20 PM

Voxper: Days ago another Farker wrote of their experience in China. They were surprised that the little communists did not work together to get along, but instead displayed a 'fark you i got mine' attitude. How the little coke pissers would not wait for red lights, instead just honking and driving through.

I've been to China 5 times and lived there for about a year. (It helps if you can speak the language passably well, but that's true for any foreign country.)

It sounds like this individual isn't used to traveling outside of the First World.

Yeah, China can be rough and there's some unpredictability. The roughness and unpredictability grows by leaps and bounds the farther away you get from a major city which foreigners frequent. If the person was complaining about Beijing or Shanghai, God help them if they went someplace more difficult.

I'd advise whiners and snowflakes to stay away from China.


Yep, this. It's a culture shock of epic proportions. What consume me most were the sheer volume of people in a given area. Though I do not fault someone for not appreciating how different it is outside the US of A.

I've been to China and India a few times too. Absolutely insane farkers behind the wheel in both countries and I love it. I rent cars there just to say I did and cherish the battle I did with them just trying to get from point A to B. I also get to say "hey, I drove there!" if someone mentions a particular place. However, India wins the lunatic driving contest hands down.

My next foray in a few weeks is when I am off to Seoul. I heard they're even more nuts behind the wheel. I can't wait to drive there.
 
2012-09-08 10:05:46 PM
As their government needs revenue, they have addicted lots of their citizens to tobacco. So they tend to smoke everywhere they are allowed, and some places they are not. some examples;

while getting a massage
in the communal whirlpool bath
while playing basketball/soccer

and don;t get me started on the hocking/hoicking thing
 
2012-09-08 10:07:43 PM

Enormous-Schwanstucker: My next foray in a few weeks is when I am off to Seoul. I heard they're even more nuts behind the wheel. I can't wait to drive there.


If you are going to South Korea make sure to try and drive across the DMZ for the adventure of a life time.
 
2012-09-08 10:26:15 PM
I was next to a Chinese guy who was in a group of Chinese tourists a few months ago on a flight to Hong Kong. Man could not stop fidgeting. Got up every 5 minutes to get something in the bin, literally stuffed ripped up tissues in his ears, ran back and forth up the aisle to talk to other members of his tour, and his breath. My god his breath.

At least he didn't stand up before we left the runway like half of his group. Inconsiderate idiots the lot of them.
 
2012-09-08 10:27:09 PM

Gergesa: Enormous-Schwanstucker: My next foray in a few weeks is when I am off to Seoul. I heard they're even more nuts behind the wheel. I can't wait to drive there.

If you are going to South Korea make sure to try and drive across the DMZ for the adventure of a life time.


Well, my plan was to pack a bag lunch and wave to the good folks of Best Korea across the fence. Is that a bad idea?
 
2012-09-08 10:52:31 PM
My next foray in a few weeks is when I am off to Seoul. I heard they're even more nuts behind the wheel. I can't wait to drive there.

The traffic there is maybe heavy but I wouldn't call it crazy. But every time I go to Korea I have a great time.
 
2012-09-09 12:15:37 AM

Loren: Amos Quito: Loren: greenwald: As for the swiss flight, the plane was already over Moscow, 6 hours on the air. The others passengers have shown a heavy restrain not to linch these idiots when told the plane would turn back to the departure airport, 6 hours away.

I suspect it's a matter of passports--the people involved probably didn't have visas for Russia.


Which is why passenger jets should have bomb bay doors.

DB Cooper.

KrispyKritter: Days ago another Farker wrote of their experience in China. They were surprised that the little communists did not work together to get along, but instead displayed a 'fark you i got mine' attitude. How the little coke pissers would not wait for red lights, instead just honking and driving through.

Yup. Why he was surprised I don't know, though. I was nearly hit by a bus--I knew the bus simply couldn't turn left so I figured he was going to stop. No--he was intending to turn right from the left turn lane--on red.

I'm not surprised. In America we are surrounded by people from all over the world. We are raised to be respectful and polite toward each other. To be patient, kind and loving. In the melting pot we are aware of our differences and we try to compensate for it.

In China it's all chinky chinky Chinamen. Short, rude little bastards with no regard for anyone. All cut from the same little Fortune Cookie mold. You come to America, we love you long time. You go to China, they pee pee in your Coke. Remember that next time you plan your vacation abroad.

I disagree. They've lived in a society of corruption for ages, it's what you would expect to happen.

PS: I like Chinese food as much as the next guy, but that's all they got in China. You come to America, you can eat anything you want, baby. You can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant.

All they have??? You'll find other types of food there, they're just not as common.


I've talked about Korea in a few threads and it's very similar to China. Basically I think it comes down to the way they view hierarchy. Family is first. Close friends are second and everyone else is non-existent. When I become friends with someone they are the kindest and most caring person I've met. But that same person would be a total prick if I didn't know them. Pushing, cutting in line, whatever. If they don't know you, fark you.

I originally left the US because I was unhappy with the government and the way society was becoming. After living in Korea, I've realized the US is really a very harmonious place and it's one of the best places in the world to live ( I've been on every continent and have forgotten how many countries I've visited).

Thailand seems great though. Lots of problems but at least the people seem civil. I'm staying in Korea now because my wife wants to be near her family and I make a very good income. We plan to retire in Thailand, though.
 
2012-09-09 12:40:57 AM
The chances of me getting on a Chinese airliner are Zero.
 
2012-09-09 02:26:08 AM
The chances of me getting on a Chinese airliner are Zero.

That's understandable.

The last time I had an opportunity to buy a ticket for Air China was when I had to get from Tokyo to Dubai. I was on a schedule and they had the best price, so I said "what the hey?"

10 days before my flight, I got an email telling me that the Beijing-Dubai portion was cancelled. But they could provide all kinds of other flights to the same place on different days. Naturally, as you'd expect, I wasn't a happy camper.

I called their sales office in Tokyo and argued with the nice lady in Mandarin.

They couldn't accommodate my schedule so I managed to get a full refund. I ended-up flying Emirates direct to Dubai for a higher price, but Emirates is one hell of an airline.

That's what I get for being cheap, eh?

(I hope this isn't a repost)
 
2012-09-09 02:31:06 AM
@SuwonROKs: I originally left the US because I was unhappy with the government and the way society was becoming.

I thought I was the only one.

Welcome to permanent expat-ness, brother!
 
2012-09-09 02:35:53 AM

gibbon1:

German and Israeli tourists aren't so hot either.


I've seen this before and PJ O'Rourke has some funny stuff on Germans.

But the Germans that go to Bryce, Zion and to our local ski/snowboard resorts are very nice.

Maybe the lack of oxygen up here short-circuits the part of their brain that generates rudeness?

Maybe my funky Ami accent when I speak German disorients them and they forget to be rude?
 
2012-09-09 06:18:10 AM
<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7316014/79250520#c79250520" target="_blank">SuwonROKs</a>:</b> <i>Loren: Amos Quito: Loren: greenwald: As for the swiss flight, the plane was already over Moscow, 6 hours on the air. The others passengers have shown a heavy restrain not to linch these idiots when told the plane would turn back to the departure airport, 6 hours away.

I suspect it's a matter of passports--the people involved probably didn't have visas for Russia.


Which is why passenger jets should have bomb bay doors.

DB Cooper.

KrispyKritter: Days ago another Farker wrote of their experience in China. They were surprised that the little communists did not work together to get along, but instead displayed a 'fark you i got mine' attitude. How the little coke pissers would not wait for red lights, instead just honking and driving through.

Yup. Why he was surprised I don't know, though. I was nearly hit by a bus--I knew the bus simply couldn't turn left so I figured he was going to stop. No--he was intending to turn right from the left turn lane--on red.

I'm not surprised. In America we are surrounded by people from all over the world. We are raised to be respectful and polite toward each other. To be patient, kind and loving. In the melting pot we are aware of our differences and we try to compensate for it.

In China it's all chinky chinky Chinamen. Short, rude little bastards with no regard for anyone. All cut from the same little Fortune Cookie mold. You come to America, we love you long time. You go to China, they pee pee in your Coke. Remember that next time you plan your vacation abroad.

I disagree. They've lived in a society of corruption for ages, it's what you would expect to happen.

PS: I like Chinese food as much as the next guy, but that's all they got in China. You come to America, you can eat anything you want, baby. You can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant.

All they have??? You'll find other types of food there, they're just not as common.

I've talked about Korea in a few threads and it's very similar to China. Basically I th ...</i>

Never been to Thailand, hope to.

Heard there's a nasty little, mostly unreported, quasi-civil war going on with their Muslim citizenry, mostly in the south?
 
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