AcneVulgaris: proteus_b: this is why i've never understood the D-tards who insist that marijuana should be "taxed and regulated". why should it be taxed? why should it be regulated? the default answer is that it should not be, until you can show a good reason tor such coercion...Because whoever is running the government, they're going to look a lot more favorably on anything that brings them money.We don't pay taxes because that's the law. We pay taxes because the government will take our stuff and lock us in a cage with butt rapists if we don't pay.
lucasorvis: Marijuana will never be universally legal in the United States. I'll take ANYONE'S bets. There's just too much money in keeping it illegal. And honestly, I l blame Murphy's Law. Nothing that cool can ever happen in the real world.
proteus_b: this is why i've never understood the D-tards who insist that marijuana should be "taxed and regulated". why should it be taxed? why should it be regulated? the default answer is that it should not be, until you can show a good reason tor such coercion...
gadian: Bunch of angry pot heads in here, take a hit and relax. Also, about the driving, driving high should get your license revoked, even with a med card. Just like driving drunk, zonked on Ambien, or any other state of intoxication. Zero tolerance for that bullshiat. I support your right to get as high as you can possibly get - in your own home. No, you can't drive while stoned, no matter how good of a driver you think it makes you. We can all tell. Stock up on snacks ahead of time.
Firethorn: Oh yeah, and on legalization.Under Legalization the drugs will be far, far cheaper:Rather than growing in an apartment or house, it will be grown on a field, or in a greenhouse. ~20X price difference.Rather than being transported in a car, it will be transported in a semi. ~10X price difference.Rather than being sold out of a trunk, it'll be sold out of a proper storefront.Rather than simply write off theft or government shutdown(or go vigilante which tends to raise our murder rate), they'll be able to properly use police services to protect their business.I think that the gangs figure on losing half their crop to the police-they simply grow twice as much. Under legalization they won't have to do this, AND will be more inclined to invest in proper industrial growing tools/equipment.
if_i_really_have_to: Not really. Some medical conditions leave you legal to drive but incapable of passing field sobriety tests. There's needs to be another test available for those cases that doesn't involve dragging the unfortunate sick person in to the county jail every time they get pulled over.
MyRandomName: jayhawk88: NURBS: In order to have a functioning society, the government is going to have to spend money. That money, for the most part, comes from taxes. So again, taxes don't bother me -- it's all just part of living in modern society with all the modern amenities.KEEP THE GOVERNMENT OUT OF MY PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE!It used to be a lot easier and cheaper to create that infrastructure before government started regulating itself so much. Do you honestly think we could make the Hoover dam at this point?
D_Evans45: Also, even when an areas brick n mortar dispensaries are knocked down, they spring back up as delivery services instantly to start regaining some lost profit. Look up any city in southern CA on weedmaps, if they don't have tasty buds at a shop, they've got dozens of guys out delivering it instead.The feds mainly shut down shops by bullying CA landlords who lease to pot shops. They have a much harder time trying to dismantle established networks of mobile bud sales.
StoneColdAtheist: Smackledorfer: We dont need a tool, often poorly calibrated, to measure an imperfectly correlated third variable in order to enforce driving sober in a world with legal drugs. Field sobriety testing should be sufficient.Yep, that's what's done here in Cali where MMJ is legal and widespread, and it seems to work very well. Holds up well in court. Agnostic to the cause of the insobriety. Easy and quick to administer.
Smackledorfer: We dont need a tool, often poorly calibrated, to measure an imperfectly correlated third variable in order to enforce driving sober in a world with legal drugs. Field sobriety testing should be sufficient.
Fark_Guy_Rob: I've always felt like the medical marijuana thing was absolute crap....and I say this as someone who lived in Colorado and had one.There is nothing 'medical' about it. Yes, if you try really hard you can find some legit people who use the drug as intended (for medical purposes). 99% of the people I ran into at the dispensary were just like me - young, reasonably fit, reasonably healthy, people who wanted to smoke weed and were happy enough to pay extra for it.Personally, I think recreational drugs should be legal. Weed should be one. But if you want to call it 'medical marijuana' it should be tightly enforced. The place I went to had a TWO PAGE ad in the newspaper showing it's deals/prices and advertising that they would have doctors on staff at hours X,Y and Z for prescriptions. No medical records unnecessary, cash only.I went and said, 'Ummm, well, my back hurts.' and that was all I needed. In total I paid $300 and left with some baked goodies.
adenosine: Seems the problem is the semi-legal nature of the goods. As long as you have to worry about the feds raiding you if you try to follow state law this sort of thing will persist.
Quaker: It should be taxed because the government needs to generate money for things like roads and schools. It should be regulated to try and prevent young children from using it when (as research seems to indicate) it can be detrimental to their psychological development when used regularly.
NURBS: In order to have a functioning society, the government is going to have to spend money. That money, for the most part, comes from taxes. So again, taxes don't bother me -- it's all just part of living in modern society with all the modern amenities.
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