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2012-09-08 05:42:23 AM
It does.
 
2012-09-08 06:05:45 AM
Well, this headline should provoke a few folks.

Also, you are terrible at reading, subby.
 
2012-09-08 06:08:25 AM

Relatively Obscure: Well, this headline should provoke a few folks.

Also, you are terrible at reading, subby.


Hey, they said "clutch pedal", not manual transmission. You don't need a clutch with an automated manual transmission!

/yeah, I farked up, and I admit it.
 
2012-09-08 06:11:06 AM
Subby's a woman, that much is true.
 
2012-09-08 06:11:07 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Relatively Obscure: Well, this headline should provoke a few folks.

Also, you are terrible at reading, subby.

Hey, they said "clutch pedal", not manual transmission. You don't need a clutch with an automated manual transmission!

/yeah, I farked up, and I admit it.



Well, sure.. but then they said this:

If there's one feature on this list that deserves a pause and a moment of silence when it finally passes from the automotive scene for good, it's the manual transmission and the beloved third pedal that actuates it.

But you stepped up, so it's now all good by me.

/Will probably do something similar all too soon.
 
2012-09-08 06:58:28 AM
Oh baloney. Stick shift is way better than auto-trans.

/Yes, it is! So there!
 
2012-09-08 07:04:06 AM
The hell you say
 
2012-09-08 07:25:24 AM
FTFA: 1. The Cassette Deck:

Welcome to 1990 people! Bask in this amazing futuristic world, bereft of cassette players!
 
2012-09-08 07:28:29 AM

Ed Finnerty: FTFA: 1. The Cassette Deck:

Welcome to 1990 people! Bask in this amazing futuristic world, bereft of cassette players!


I really would have thought CD Players would have been on the list with ipods taking over.
 
2012-09-08 07:31:43 AM
Given the choice, I would prefer to drive manual. But, I have an hourish long commute in stop-and-go traffic so it's just completely unrealistic.
 
2012-09-08 07:34:14 AM
Wife-like driving detected.

/I keed. My wife insists that we only have standard transmissions.
 
2012-09-08 07:37:00 AM
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ahem
 
2012-09-08 07:41:12 AM
Roll up windows?
Bench front seats?
Useable Ashtrays?
Chrome bumpers?
Wood siding?
 
2012-09-08 07:43:45 AM
Manual cars are so much better than automatics.
 
2012-09-08 07:44:05 AM
My family only had cars with automatic transmissions when I was of driving age, so I never learned to drive a standard transmission. I don't see the point in learning now, as I just bought a new car with a CVT.
 
2012-09-08 07:49:23 AM
I would have gotten so much more use out of a cassette deck in my current car than the "new" CD player that I thought was so much better in 1998. I haven't listened to a CD in years, and there's no good way to plug in my phone to play podcasts or music while driving.

My new car will have an aux port AND Bluetooth, so that shouldn't be a problem.

It will also have a manual transmission.
 
2012-09-08 07:56:14 AM
I would say ashtrays. I haven't seen an ashtray in a new vehicle for years, and it drives my chain smoking mother CRAZY for it too.
 
2012-09-08 08:04:50 AM

State_College_Arsonist: My family only had cars with automatic transmissions when I was of driving age, so I never learned to drive a standard transmission. I don't see the point in learning now, as I just bought a new car with a CVT.


Ten Reasons Why You Should Learn To Drive Stick(slideshow)
10.) Fuel economy
9.) A better understanding of your car
8.) You don't have to loan your car to anyone
7.) Prevents distracted driving
6.) Because you want to learn
5.) Be able to drive all cars
4.) Have more control over your car
3.) To be a successful car thief
2.) It's more fun
1.) Just in case
 
2012-09-08 08:05:31 AM
If I buy the S5 with paddle shifters, can I get all the smug of manual without the hassle if a clutch?

Also, 2012 with the v8 or the 2013 with the turbo v6?
 
2012-09-08 08:08:25 AM
I bought a Hyundai Elantra a couple years ago, and after some debate decided on the manual transmission. I'd had manuals for years and always loved that aspect of driving, but have had automatics for the last 10 years or so and wanted to switch back. Anyhow, aside from the higher level of enjoyment I get from driving a manual, I'm getting 34mpg city and 44mpg highway, while a coworker of mine who bought the same make/model/year in an automatic is only able to squeeze out 30mpg at best in the city, and hasn't seen 40mpg yet.
 
2012-09-08 08:09:40 AM
fark you subby get off my tranny.
 
2012-09-08 08:11:50 AM

good_2_go: State_College_Arsonist: My family only had cars with automatic transmissions when I was of driving age, so I never learned to drive a standard transmission. I don't see the point in learning now, as I just bought a new car with a CVT.

Ten Reasons Why You Should Learn To Drive Stick(slideshow)
10.) Fuel economy
9.) A better understanding of your car
8.) You don't have to loan your car to anyone
7.) Prevents distracted driving
6.) Because you want to learn
5.) Be able to drive all cars
4.) Have more control over your car
3.) To be a successful car thief
2.) It's more fun
1.) Just in case


#11 save your brakes.
 
2012-09-08 08:13:12 AM
Paddle-shifted "gears" on a CVT. The best of all possible worlds.
 
2012-09-08 08:13:44 AM

bulldg4life: If I buy the S5 with paddle shifters, can I get all the smug of manual without the hassle if a clutch?

Also, 2012 with the v8 or the 2013 with the turbo v6?


Flappy paddles don't count.
 
2012-09-08 08:13:53 AM

eriklou: fark you subby get off my tranny.


This thread got real weird, real quick.
 
2012-09-08 08:14:41 AM
I love driving stick, trouble is my commute of 30 minutes sometimes takes an hour or more because of stop-and-go traffic and it SUCKS driving stick in traffic like that.
 
2012-09-08 08:21:44 AM
I was under the impression that a standard/ transmission was easier to fix than an automatic. Is that just urban legend?

I prefer a standard.
 
2012-09-08 08:23:18 AM
6) Nav systems: Both my phone and my Garmin provide better directions, don't look stupid on the dash board, are faster and cheaper to update, and didn't cost $2500 to begin with. Let them die. And stop requiring one to get the $50 upgraded keyfob.
 
2012-09-08 08:32:45 AM
My truck is a 98, with roll up windows, no power locks and a 5 speed manual... i LOVE it.. i went shopping recently for a new truck and while i found one with no power anything, i coulnd't find one with a stick... which sucks :( I havn't driving a auto in over 20 years (im 42) and really don't like them
 
2012-09-08 08:39:47 AM
If you can't shift without using the clutch, you're not really a man.
 
2012-09-08 08:44:45 AM
Yea, who wants better gas mileage.
 
2012-09-08 08:50:49 AM

eriklou: good_2_go: State_College_Arsonist: My family only had cars with automatic transmissions when I was of driving age, so I never learned to drive a standard transmission. I don't see the point in learning now, as I just bought a new car with a CVT.

Ten Reasons Why You Should Learn To Drive Stick(slideshow)
10.) Fuel economy
9.) A better understanding of your car
8.) You don't have to loan your car to anyone
7.) Prevents distracted driving
6.) Because you want to learn
5.) Be able to drive all cars
4.) Have more control over your car
3.) To be a successful car thief
2.) It's more fun
1.) Just in case

#11 save your brakes.


#2 is the real reason, with #1 and #8 close behind.
 
2012-09-08 08:58:23 AM
My dad made a point that my first car should be a stick shift, and I am so grateful for it now. Was definitely more fun to drive, and yes it had many benefits.

Would I get another stick shift? Oh fark yes! Less temptation to be distracted, cheaper to buy and maintain, and way more fun!
 
2012-09-08 09:00:25 AM

hbomb1129: I was under the impression that a standard/ transmission was easier to fix than an automatic. Is that just urban legend?

I prefer a standard.


The clutch will normaly need replacement for wear every 100k or so, but the failure rate of the manual gearbox is almost nil. Automatics transmissions are almost another technology in complexity. The typical ASE teechnician is still as clueless abut them as most drivers are. Many so called repair shops just swap with an already rebuilt unit from somewhere else.

/The scam that is Front Wheel Drive is something else entirely
 
2012-09-08 09:01:46 AM
They can have my manual transmission when they pry it from my cold , dead hands.
 
2012-09-08 09:03:11 AM
Huh. I don't always need a clutch pedal to shift. Do need a hill though, if I want to get it into 1st or R without it.

And there's a really cool look guys get when you get out of the car and they realize you've been driving a stick in heels. Apparently, that's a rare skill. *shrug*
 
2012-09-08 09:07:28 AM
Everyone here can be smug about how their auto transmission is so superior, I'll be out having fun in my turbocharged AWD manual WRX.
 
2012-09-08 09:11:38 AM

Therion: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 279x260]

ahem


I miss that button. Intermittent wiper pedal too
 
2012-09-08 09:13:19 AM
I'm not going to lie, though. My wife's DSG Jetta is an entertaining ride. I still prefer my GTI, but the automated manuals are a step in ther right direction
 
2012-09-08 09:17:18 AM
I can drive manual just fine, but overall, I prefer not, city driving is complicated enough. Between bad drivers, the terrible road condition, etc. I enjoy my automatic.

If I want the "fun" part, my car can be switched to clutch-less manual mode (with paddles), either with automatic override (with a revert to auto after a while, or change in speed), or full manual switching.

I simply hate being around others with manual cars... because it's easy to tell, they can't clutch right, are always rolling when stopped, and simply can't handle the overload. But I'm sure that all of them will state how great drivers they are because of it, how fun and better it is.
 
2012-09-08 09:18:41 AM
First car was a manual. Great as a student. Would never have one again as an adult driving in traffic. There's no "fun" there.

Plus, the rationale for a manual in terms of fuel efficiency is now a myth that the automatics are so much better than they were 20-30 years ago.

The only reason I'd have a manual is if I lived in a place with bad weather conditions (well more of them) and needed a finer grain of control.
 
2012-09-08 09:26:03 AM
Car phone antenna is missing. I remember when that little coiled wire was a huge status symbol.
 
2012-09-08 09:27:18 AM

Yotto: My new car will have an aux port AND Bluetooth, so that shouldn't be a problem.


New car? How about just buying a new radio? My 50 euro radio has an USB port, aux port and a slot for SD-cards. Things are dirt cheap nowadays so no reason to not just get one.

/Unless you got one of those cars with everything custom build into the dashboard
//Which is just foolish
 
2012-09-08 09:33:45 AM
Auto trans are annoying as shiat. I love that it shifts 10 times when it should have been in one gear the whole time, and then decides it likes what gear it's in when it should've downshifted at least 1 if not 2 gears
 
2012-09-08 09:35:02 AM
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/ I never learned to drive an automatic...
 
2012-09-08 09:36:19 AM
Excellent trollerriffic headline, subby. That's what pays the bills around here.
 
2012-09-08 09:42:40 AM

Uncontrolled_Jibe: hbomb1129: I was under the impression that a standard/ transmission was easier to fix than an automatic. Is that just urban legend?

I prefer a standard.

The clutch will normaly need replacement for wear every 100k or so, but the failure rate of the manual gearbox is almost nil. Automatics transmissions are almost another technology in complexity. The typical ASE teechnician is still as clueless abut them as most drivers are. Many so called repair shops just swap with an already rebuilt unit from somewhere else.

/The scam that is Front Wheel Drive is something else entirely


Front wheel drive is good for a compact car; it leaves more interior room and the system is usually lighter than a RWD vehicle's powertrain. The belief some people hold that it somehow provides better traction or whatever is completely wrong. It isn't a scam, however, it is just a system that meets a specific need.
 
2012-09-08 09:45:17 AM

bulldg4life: If I buy the S5 with paddle shifters, can I get all the smug of manual without the hassle if a clutch?

Also, 2012 with the v8 or the 2013 with the turbo v6?


As the former owner of a B6 S4 and current owner of a B8 S4, take the 2013.

I sometimes miss the sound of the V8 but the supercharged V6 is a better overall package. More torque (and horsepower if the dynos are to be believed) and it comes on strong low in the power band and pulls hard to redline.

My B6 was manual as tiptronic was terrible for that car. My B8 is s-tronic and is a pleasure to drive. Maybe I'm lazy but I don't frequently use the flappy paddles. I put it in sport and just mash the pedal. The different mapping and throttle response makes the car feel totally different.

I know you don't spend $54k on a car only to worry about gas mileage but I can get 28-30 highway in the V6 whilst even the FSI V8 struggles to get 21-22.
 
2012-09-08 09:48:30 AM
Female here. My wife and I bothe drive sticks.

Well, at least in the vehicles.
 
2012-09-08 09:50:26 AM
Here in Euroland, I'd say at least 90% of cars (including both of mine) are stick.
 
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