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2012-09-08 03:52:18 PM
So the Silurians had a prophesy about Adric.

Susan, Donna, and now River: three female companions whose grandfathers who have travelled in the TARDIS. The Williamses are the first family of whom three generations have been shown adventuring with the Doctor (Donna's mum stayed home and didn't believe the nonsense about a time machine).
 
2012-09-08 03:52:34 PM

rickycal78: Sorry, but Martha is the hottest of the companions, at least on a purely physical level.


No. Just, no. Wendy Padbury, Mary Tamm, Louise Jameson, and heck, if you can get past the fact that she's one of the most annoying companions ever, Nicola Bryant were all hotter than Freema Agyeman.

gadian: It would've been so much better for the Ponds developmentally if the writing staff (Moffat) had the balls to actually have them divorce and stay that way, even if the reasoning was really dumb and unbelievable.


The entire thing feels like it was built to fill screentime. The idea of a mad Dalek that thinks it's human isn't enough to carry an episode. So they needed a companion-centric sub-plot, and that's what they decided to go with.
 
2012-09-08 03:58:22 PM

TheManofPA: A) I think your "Chair is important" thing is insane from last thread
B) I want you to be right about it because I can't believe you noticed such a small detail like a reused chair prop


I never said that the chair was important. I said that its reuse was more likely relevant than was the broach that River and Mrs. Angelo wore (or Mrs. Angelo gave it to Mels; or Mels stole it from Mrs. Angelo, since she was a car thief and a bus thief, and generally a poor example of her temporary race).

The use of Harvey and Oswald for names was no accident. I'm confident that it is irrelevant, and just an in-joke or quasi meta reference.
 
2012-09-08 03:59:36 PM

t3knomanser: rickycal78: Sorry, but Martha is the hottest of the companions, at least on a purely physical level.

No. Just, no. Wendy Padbury, Mary Tamm, Louise Jameson, and heck, if you can get past the fact that she's one of the most annoying companions ever, Nicola Bryant were all hotter than Freema Agyeman.



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2012-09-08 04:12:48 PM

HopScotchNSoda: Susan, Donna, and now River: three female companions whose grandfathers who have travelled in the TARDIS. The Williamses are the first family of whom three generations have been shown adventuring with the Doctor (Donna's mum stayed home and didn't believe the nonsense about a time machine).


Then there was Tegan's grandfather, but he didn't actually travel in The Awakening, did he?

Another couple of companions (the Brigadier and Captain Jack) were grandfathers but their grandchildren (Gordon and Steven, respectively) never met the Doctor, much less travelled in the TARDIS
 
2012-09-08 04:24:14 PM
You know, there are complaints, and discussions and all this stuff about what is cannon and what is not and people seem to forget that the worst episode of doctor who that ever aired was still better than the best episode of any other TV program that aired that aired that year. The two episodes we have seen so far this year are awesome even by Doctor Who standards, can't fault them and won't try to. We are in for an interesting ride over the next year or so and I for one am buckled up.
 
2012-09-08 04:30:47 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Zombie DJ: Subby seems like a whiny nerd. One of those dime a dozen ones at that.

Basically, you're judging a TIME TRAVEL show on its FIRST EPISODE back?
How farking dumb is that?
Maybe they'll be an episode that explains more.
Maybe one of them were being mind controlled.
Farking A, Subby. Get out of the basement and just sit and watch, THEN judge the whole season on what you saw.

That whole "ZOMG YOU HAVE TO SEE THE ENTIRE STORY BEFORE PASSING JUDGMENT!!!111!1" argument doesn't hold water when comic book fanboys tell you that you have to read the whole 12 part story before dropping a book, so it certainly doesn't hold up in this case.


I would agree with you on say, Babylon 5 or the entire Star Trek TNG series or even Battlestar Galactica, but in a TIME TRAVEL series, no. You have to wait to see the whole thing.
 
2012-09-08 04:41:57 PM

FirstNationalBastard: 25.media.tumblr.com


"for the dads"
 
2012-09-08 05:46:56 PM

JudgeItoBox: Remember: You're watching a show made by hipster scum FOR hipster scum.

And it's only popular because there isn't any Star Trek or Battlestar Galactica on TV anymore.


Hey look! It's the guy that doesn't know a goddamn thing about scifi TV history.
 
2012-09-08 05:58:25 PM

HopScotchNSoda: t3knomanser: Well, no- hipsters predate Doctor Who by about 20 years- the original hipsters were into bebop and hot jazz before it was cool. They went to clubs in the "dark" section of town that you've probably never heard of.

20 years before DW? In the middle of the Second World War?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipster_(1940s_subculture)
 
2012-09-08 05:59:18 PM
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2012-09-08 07:02:52 PM
This episode, like last week's: daft, but very fun. As one would expect from "Dinosaurs... on a SPACESHIP!"
 
2012-09-08 07:04:23 PM

HopScotchNSoda: So, after last week's character names of Harvey and Oswald, what other names and terms should we be watching for as we approach next year's 50th anniversary?

Dallas
Dealey (Plaza)
Elm (Street)
Houston (Street)
Main (Street)
Carcano (rifle)
John Fitzgerald Kennedy and Jaqueline Bouvier Kennedy
John & Nellie Connally (Governor & 1st Lady)
J.D. Tippit (police officer also killed by Ruby)
Abraham Zapruder (filmed famous home movie)
"Sparkling" Jack Ruby (killed Oswald)
Jim Leavelle (the detective in the cowboy hat cuffed to Oswald when killed)
Parkland (medical center)
Earl Warren (Chief Justice, chaired the investigating commission)


Amy will have a sudden three-pack-a-day cigarette addiction.

/not obscure, too subtle?
 
2012-09-08 07:11:17 PM

t3knomanser: This episode, like last week's: daft, but very fun. As one would expect from "Dinosaurs... on a SPACESHIP!"


Pretty much... Though it felt a bit rushed in places, namely the parts with the Baddy, like there might be parts of his back-story that are missing maybe, or perhaps I missed something (completely likely since my dog likes to wait until I am watching something to get in my face and want to go out for a walk). I *do* wish we had more of the robots arguing, they were quite amusing.
 
2012-09-08 07:23:25 PM

FirstNationalBastard: t3knomanser: rickycal78: Sorry, but Martha is the hottest of the companions, at least on a purely physical level.

No. Just, no. Wendy Padbury, Mary Tamm, Louise Jameson, and heck, if you can get past the fact that she's one of the most annoying companions ever, Nicola Bryant were all hotter than Freema Agyeman.



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That's not a picture of Elisabeth Sladen.
 
2012-09-08 07:29:53 PM

Luthien's Tempest: I *do* wish we had more of the robots arguing, they were quite amusing.


You can have plenty of them arguing, just not as robot puppets.

How about as Nazis?
Or maybe Planning a party?
How about as Jesus, teaching the lesson of the Good Samaritan?
Try them as a evil overlord and his minion, debating overly ambiguous terms?

And plenty more.
 
2012-09-08 07:40:21 PM

t3knomanser: Luthien's Tempest: I *do* wish we had more of the robots arguing, they were quite amusing.

You can have plenty of them arguing, just not as robot puppets.

How about as Nazis?
Or maybe Planning a party?
How about as Jesus, teaching the lesson of the Good Samaritan?
Try them as a evil overlord and his minion, debating overly ambiguous terms?

And plenty more.


Oh my gosh... I've only gotten through the Nazis, but that is marvelous. Thank you so much. I had no idea that they were anything other than just a couple of random actors.
 
2012-09-08 07:54:25 PM
OtherLittleGuy: That's not a picture of Elisabeth Sladen.

Sarah Jane was a great companion and marked a big step toward intelligent, strong, independent women as companions. She was pretty enough, but I would hardly rank her among the hottest or sexiest assistants/companions.

That said, however, the years were incredibly kind to her. By the time of her revived companionship, she was much hotter and sexier than most women in their 60s. By contrast, Jo looked like cross between a kewpy doll and the Crypt Keeper.
 
2012-09-08 08:11:53 PM
I'm working again tonight, but I will read it when I get home (@3am).
 
2012-09-08 08:15:38 PM
As a fan since childhood, I'm afraid I thought this was a really weak episode.
 
2012-09-08 08:15:57 PM
I thought it was a fun episode, the idea of Nefertiti as a short term companion was pretty nifty.
 
2012-09-08 08:29:18 PM

Type40: You know, there are complaints, and discussions and all this stuff about what is cannon and what is not and people seem to forget that the worst episode of doctor who that ever aired was still better than the best episode of any other TV program that aired that aired that year. The two episodes we have seen so far this year are awesome even by Doctor Who standards, can't fault them and won't try to. We are in for an interesting ride over the next year or so and I for one am buckled up.


Sorry dude, but Fear Her, and Love and Monsters both aired in 2006. The Shield was still on that year, so your argument is invalid. Not that I habitually complain about Doctor Who, love the show. But those were, at least, probably the worst two episodes of NuWho.
 
2012-09-08 08:31:22 PM

MonkeyAngst: HopScotchNSoda: t3knomanser: Well, no- hipsters predate Doctor Who by about 20 years- the original hipsters were into bebop and hot jazz before it was cool. They went to clubs in the "dark" section of town that you've probably never heard of.

20 years before DW? In the middle of the Second World War?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipster_(1940s_subculture)


I learned something today. Thank you.
 
2012-09-08 08:47:09 PM
How did Amy not notice that the Doctor gave her his wrist protector thing
 
2012-09-08 08:47:45 PM
Just realised a clue:

Remember in "The Hungry Earth", Rory and Amy saw ten-year-older versions of themselves in 2020.

Their "present day" is now up to 2020. Rory told his dad that he was 31. Amelia was 7 in 1996 in "The Eleventh Hour". The two of them and Mels were school mates and best mates growing up, so assume that he is approximately the same age.
 
2012-09-08 08:49:43 PM

Wyalt Derp: As a fan since childhood, I'm afraid I thought this was a really weak episode.


In what way? I don't disagree, mind you, but I think this was actually one of the better episodes we've had in several years, in its own way.

Sure, it had flaws: it was utterly daft, for starters. But it's called "Dinosaurs on a Spaceship", so... you'd be expecting it to be daft. I hope you would, anyway. This is not a premise that lends itself to depth. All of the characters were flat, even the regulars. With so many faces on the screen, nobody really had much time to develop in any meaningful way.

But it was definitely fun. It was less a story and more a series of set pieces built around being entertaining. Along the way, it added some nice depth about the Silurians and reinforced them as an interesting antagonist. Each character had an opportunity to rise to the occasion and be a bit of a bad-ass, even if it sometimes required fridge-logic to do it (the genetic controls? Really?).

The best part about it, to me though, is one of the elements that was really highlighted in Rory's dad, and it calls back to a famous line from the Second Doctor: "Our lives are different to anybody else's. That's the exciting thing, that nobody in the universe can do what we're doing."

At its core, the best episodes of Doctor Who should make your inner child yearn to be a companion. Or perhaps... the Doctor.
 
2012-09-08 08:58:06 PM
In that scene near the end when Brian sits in the open TARDIS door, sipping his coffee with the Earth below and eternity in every direction -- Amy looked down at him and finally really understood what the Doctor told her in "Meanwhile in the TARDIS 2", about needing companions because he can no longer "see it". When you make all of space and time your back yard, all you are left with is a back yard. Amy, Rory, and the Doctor look down toward Brian and see him the way that the Doctor sees his companions, and see why he needs them.
 
2012-09-08 09:00:50 PM
Walk like an Egyptian, indeed!
 
2012-09-08 09:05:20 PM
"On tonight's Doctor Who...."

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2012-09-08 09:05:56 PM
The time vortex looks like a portal to hell.
 
2012-09-08 09:10:36 PM
The Doctor told Brian that he was pleased to meet him. Wasn't Brian at Amy & Rory's wedding reception? The Doctor didn't meet him then? Brian doesn't remember the farking TARDIS materialising on the dance floor during Amy's toast? Did River slip that Torchwood amnesia drug into everyone's champagne so they wouldn't remember it the next morning as was done at that other Williams wedding with aliens?
 
2012-09-08 09:10:49 PM
If that old guy in bed is Adric, FNB might just explode or ponies will become real. I'm not sure which.
 
2012-09-08 09:16:28 PM

TheManofPA: If that old guy in bed is Adric, FNB might just explode or ponies will become real. I'm not sure which.


Didn't Adric die?
 
2012-09-08 09:16:47 PM

TheManofPA: If that old guy in bed is Adric, FNB might just explode or ponies will become real. I'm not sure which.


No, he may have been old, but he wasn't 65.5 million years old. That guy was a space pirate.

The Silurian captain's log however said that the Ark was built and launching because of a prophesy that the dinosaurs would be wiped out, showing that the conclusion of Earthshock was foretold among the Silurians.
 
2012-09-08 09:18:11 PM

gadian: TheManofPA: If that old guy in bed is Adric, FNB might just explode or ponies will become real. I'm not sure which.

Didn't Adric die?


Yes, and his death was alluded to in the Silurian Captain's log.
 
2012-09-08 09:19:03 PM

HopScotchNSoda: the conclusion of Earthshock was foretold among the Silurians.


I can see the prophecy now: "And lo, in the last instants before The End, a priggish jerk with a piggy face will be killed because he needs to do more maths."
 
2012-09-08 09:21:46 PM

t3knomanser: HopScotchNSoda: the conclusion of Earthshock was foretold among the Silurians.

I can see the prophecy now: "And lo, in the last instants before The End, a priggish jerk with a piggy face will be killed because he needs to do more maths."


Yea, verily.
 
2012-09-08 09:49:39 PM
Kinda interesting the ship is returning to where it came from in the first place.
 
2012-09-08 09:55:33 PM

silgryphon: Kinda interesting the ship is returning to where it came from in the first place.


And loaded with giant extinct animals, at that.

And our hero goes back in time to get the help he needs.

At least no one said "double dumb-ass on you" or tried to talk to a computer mouse.
 
2012-09-08 09:55:54 PM

HopScotchNSoda: The Doctor told Brian that he was pleased to meet him. Wasn't Brian at Amy & Rory's wedding reception? The Doctor didn't meet him then? Brian doesn't remember the farking TARDIS materialising on the dance floor during Amy's toast? Did River slip that Torchwood amnesia drug into everyone's champagne so they wouldn't remember it the next morning as was done at that other Williams wedding with aliens?


Maybe he thought it was just a cool magic trick for wedding entertainment. Brian seems like a very practical fellow that wouldn't be interested at all in such tomfoolery as a magic show.
or
The Doctor was only the center of attention for about five minutes. He showed up at the wedding, made a big scene, then moved the TARDIS off the dance floor. Maybe Brian was in the restroom when it was gong on.
or
Maybe Brian did recognize the Doctor and the TARDIS (once he stepped out of it). It was a quick scene so maybe he didn't have time to make the obvious comment. Plus it's been ten years since the wedding (According to HopScotchNSoda) He may have forgotten what the Doctor looked like.

/I like the last one and the first as a runner up.
 
2012-09-08 09:57:12 PM
I just realized that I responded to the person I referenced.
I'm a goofball
 
2012-09-08 10:07:17 PM
So, did I actually hear them use the "Cylon Procedure" or was it something else.
 
2012-09-08 10:08:56 PM

HopScotchNSoda: silgryphon: Kinda interesting the ship is returning to where it came from in the first place.

And loaded with giant extinct animals, at that.

And our hero goes back in time to get the help he needs.

At least no one said "double dumb-ass on you" or tried to talk to a computer mouse.


No, I get that from iPad users who try to use computers without touchscreens.
 
2012-09-08 10:09:17 PM
Overall, I felt this was more of our fun episode before business picks up (ala the Bus episode of the specials). I was slightly surprised the Doctor left the bad guy on the ship
 
2012-09-08 10:09:19 PM

silgryphon: Kinda interesting the ship is returning to where it came from in the first place.


Some one warned the Silurians of the K-T Event.
 
2012-09-08 10:14:48 PM
Did Solomon steal his database from the Daleks or did Oswin erase the Doctor from everyone's files?
 
2012-09-08 10:16:12 PM
When the Williamses got back to Earth and Amy & Rory know that Brian won't now scoff off incredible stories, did they tell him that he's a grandfather? He likely knew her during her Mels years, to at least some degree, and she may have shaken his hand as River at Amy & Rory's wedding. Then there's the separate question: Do they tell him that the mad man in that box is his grandson-in-law?
 
2012-09-08 10:20:59 PM

Gunny Walker: Did Solomon steal his database from the Daleks or did Oswin erase the Doctor from everyone's files?


I wondered about that too, or if the Teslecta's people hacked the world after the funeral pyre.


Gunny Walker: silgryphon: Kinda interesting the ship is returning to where it came from in the first place.
Some one warned the Silurians of the K-T Event.


My, my, who ever could have (or later will have) done that? Who indeed.


TheManofPA: So, did I actually hear them use the "Cylon Procedure" or was it something else.


Pardon?
 
2012-09-08 10:24:00 PM

Gunny Walker: Did Solomon steal his database from the Daleks or did Oswin erase the Doctor from everyone's files?


Isn't he believed dead though based on end of last season?

HopScotchNSoda: TheManofPA: So, did I actually hear them use the "Cylon Procedure" or was it something else.

Pardon?


I swear I misheard it but I thought someone mentioned a "Cylon procedure early on in the episode"
 
2012-09-08 10:28:12 PM

TheManofPA: I was slightly surprised the Doctor left the bad guy on the ship


He's left people to die for a hell of a lot less than genocide and slavery.
 
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