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2012-09-08 07:09:04 AM  
www.scifiheaven.net

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spdk1.files.wordpress.com

stuartreviewsstuff.files.wordpress.com

/eh, let's call it a draw.
 
2012-09-08 07:13:40 AM  
Wow, subbie. Wow. Too Soon. Too farking soon, dude.

Remember this scene, in the last episode of last season? The Wedding of River Song?

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It's where they officially, canonically killed off Lethbridge-Stewart. The only good thing about it was that he died in his sleep in the series. In reality, his actor had died in February of 2011 of a "long, protracted illness".

I personally liked Episode 1 this season. It painted the Doctor as a far darker man since the events of the last two seasons. His answer to who killed all the Daleks (Who do you think?) was one of the crowning moments of badass of all time on the series.

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2012-09-08 07:17:22 AM  

BronyMedic: Wow, subbie. Wow. Too Soon. Too farking soon, dude.

Remember this scene, in the last episode of last season? The Wedding of River Song?

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It's where they officially, canonically killed off Lethbridge-Stewart. The only good thing about it was that he died in his sleep in the series. In reality, his actor had died in February of 2011 of a "long, protracted illness".

I personally liked Episode 1 this season. It painted the Doctor as a far darker man since the events of the last two seasons. His answer to who killed all the Daleks (Who do you think?) was one of the crowning moments of badass of all time on the series.

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Ah, but the series is based on time travel, so the Brig could come back at any point with a younger actor playing him.

I wouldn't necessarily approve of Star Trek: The Lens Flare Motion Picture recasting for a beloved Who character, but it could be done.

Plus, in these days of CGI effects, Smith's Doctor could always interact with the real Brig thanks to the magic of CGI.

/And if you believe the novels, all the Doctors were at the Brigadier's funeral.
 
2012-09-08 07:19:16 AM  
www.leakynews.com
 
2012-09-08 07:30:39 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: Ah, but the series is based on time travel, so the Brig could come back at any point with a younger actor playing him.


I hope not. They did it pretty damn tastefully for killing off a very important character in the history of the series (one who had the Doctor shooting people in the face, and snapping necks ala Chuck Norris, none the less.) and emotionally for the Doctor himself. The Brig didn't die in action, he died of old age, in his sleep. The entire scene was a reminder of the mortality of everyone involved with the Doctor, and was far deeper in the realm of fridge logic than initially seemed.

FirstNationalBastard: /And if you believe the novels, all the Doctors were at the Brigadier's funeral.


You know, as a new Whovian, this has always confused me. The Novels are of questionable canonicity, right?
 
2012-09-08 07:35:48 AM  

BronyMedic: FirstNationalBastard: Ah, but the series is based on time travel, so the Brig could come back at any point with a younger actor playing him.

I hope not. They did it pretty damn tastefully for killing off a very important character in the history of the series (one who had the Doctor shooting people in the face, and snapping necks ala Chuck Norris, none the less.) and emotionally for the Doctor himself. The Brig didn't die in action, he died of old age, in his sleep. The entire scene was a reminder of the mortality of everyone involved with the Doctor, and was far deeper in the realm of fridge logic than initially seemed.

FirstNationalBastard: /And if you believe the novels, all the Doctors were at the Brigadier's funeral.

You know, as a new Whovian, this has always confused me. The Novels are of questionable canonicity, right?


I would guess novels mean nothing unless referenced on the show... just like every other franchise with an "extended universe". Although a lot of the current crew seem to have gotten their start in the Seventh Doctor's New Adventures line.

And the Brig... you know, the Seventh Doctor told him in Battlefield he would die in bed.

/just re-watched that one the other night, which is why I remember.
 
2012-09-08 08:11:36 AM  
Let's not bring Martha back.
 
2012-09-08 10:22:45 AM  

BronyMedic: The Novels are of questionable canonicity, right?


First off, there is no Doctor Who canon- canon is always whatever happens to be true at this very moment. Second, the rules that govern the BBC, which exists to serve the public trust, require that any merchandise that requires purchase must be entirely optional to the enjoyment of their programming. This basically means that information flows one way- characters and concepts that appear in the show can migrate to books, comics, movies, or whatever. Nothing can ever come back from the other media, however.

BronyMedic: and was far deeper in the realm of fridge logic than initially seemed.


A lot of what's happened in NuWho, in both the RTD and Moffat eras, depends heavily on fridge logic.
 
2012-09-08 10:34:07 AM  
I liked Day of the Dinos.

I got Death to the Daleks. watching that one now.
 
2012-09-08 10:37:22 AM  
:raises hand:

What time does this air in the UK and can I watch online?
 
2012-09-08 10:46:59 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: I would guess novels mean nothing unless referenced on the show... just like every other franchise with an "extended universe". Although a lot of the current crew seem to have gotten their start in the Seventh Doctor's New Adventures line.


Yeah, the show itself bends the timeline and "canonicity" so far around on itself that it may break, so trying to fit the novels in is a step too far most of the time. Generally speaking, the novels work with 'canon' is it was at the time of writing, but the nature of things is such that it can be wiped out with one line of the the TV show that goes to air.

The Ten-era two parter Human Nature/The Family of Blood is adapted from the post-Seven-era novel Human Nature; adapted for TV by the author who wrote the book. Since the books were, by their own description, able to take the plots into greater depth, there was a lot more to the novel than made it to TV, but the plot was similar enough that is no way the two could happen in the same universe without a clash, or at least the Doctor mentioning the similarities.

So if the authors of the books don't want to keep them in continuity, then there's not real hope for the rest of us!

Not that I mind. This isn't Star Wars after all, no-one's going to threaten death upon the creator of the series for screwing it all up via retcon. Doctor Who always plays fast and loose with this sort of thing, and in spite of what you may think has actually gotten better at it lately - there's now a generation who grew up with it and started out as fanbois and fangals, and who care about that sort of thing. Hell, in the 'old' series, there have been at least four different external entities directing and influencing human development over thousands of years as part of some universe-dominating plan. You'd think they'd have to co-ordinate that shiat.

I enjoyed the books,back when I had them and had time to read, as they were a good substitute for the show which was on hiatus back then. But I'm not worried at all about making them fit... who has that kind of time? After all, as they say... It's just a show ;)

/quiet! No talking during the movie!
 
2012-09-08 10:53:27 AM  

CavalierEternal: :raises hand:

What time does this air in the UK and can I watch online?


If you are in the UK you can watch it online for free. If you are in the US, you can purchase it via Amazon or iTunes and watch it then (generally within 24 hours of it airing).

That said, god dammit subby, now I'm crying over the Brigadier all over again. Why would you do that!?
 
2012-09-08 10:56:23 AM  
Is this for watching it live on BBC or for watching it tonight (or both)?

Personal thought is I loved the sendoff of the Brig so I hope that if UNIT returns this season that they do so with a new lead and a nod to the past. I do wonder if they'll bring back a former companion to lead them (not Adric, Ace maybe?). Also, they could always try to do a UNIT style spin-off, but I don't think they would feel right trying to fill the Sarah Jane space right now.
 
2012-09-08 11:06:02 AM  

TheManofPA: Personal thought is I loved the sendoff of the Brig so I hope that if UNIT returns this season that they do so with a new lead and a nod to the past.


I'd love a new character in the tradition of the Brig. I wouldn't want them to bring him back in a younger form, but another serious military man with a "Nasty aliens? Shoot at them. No, our guns aren't going to work, because they never work, but that's not really the point, is it?"

And quotes:
Brigadier: Oh, dear. Women. Not really my field.
The Doctor: Don't worry, Brigadier. People will be shooting at you soon.

Flight Lieutenant Lavel: [the Brigadier and Lavel have just escaped from a helicopter crash] Sir, we don't know what the situation is here!
Brigadier: The situation, Lavel, is normal, and it doesn't get much worse than that. You know, I'm rather enjoying this.

Brigadier Lethbridge Stewart: A few months ago, the superpowers, Russia, America, and China, decided upon a plan to ensure peace. All three powers have hidden atomic missile sites. All three agreed to give details of those sites plus full operation instructions to another neutral country. In the event of trouble, that country could publish everyone's secrets and so cool things down. Well, naturally enough the only country that could be trusted with such a role was Great Britain.
Doctor Who: Naturally, I mean the rest were all foreigners.
Brigadier Lethbridge Stewart: Exactly.
 
2012-09-08 11:08:28 AM  

Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: CavalierEternal: :raises hand:

What time does this air in the UK and can I watch online?

If you are in the UK you can watch it online for free. If you are in the US, you can purchase it via Amazon or iTunes and watch it then (generally within 24 hours of it airing).

That said, god dammit subby, now I'm crying over the Brigadier all over again. Why would you do that!?


When does it show up on questionable websites? At the DMV and now I'm looking forward to the doctor when I get home
 
2012-09-08 11:08:44 AM  

Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: CavalierEternal: :raises hand:

What time does this air in the UK and can I watch online?

If you are in the UK you can watch it online for free. If you are in the US, you can purchase it via Amazon or iTunes and watch it then (generally within 24 hours of it airing).


Lame. I'll just do what I do every week and "purchase" it after work.
 
2012-09-08 11:25:41 AM  

CavalierEternal: Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: CavalierEternal: :raises hand:

What time does this air in the UK and can I watch online?

If you are in the UK you can watch it online for free. If you are in the US, you can purchase it via Amazon or iTunes and watch it then (generally within 24 hours of it airing).

Lame. I'll just do what I do every week and "purchase" it after work.


Two words: Expat Shield.
 
2012-09-08 11:27:53 AM  

thecpt: When does it show up on questionable websites?


It ends at 8:20PM, in the UK. It would be online shortly after that- round off to 9PM. Converting time-zones is an exercise for the reader.
 
2012-09-08 11:36:13 AM  

thecpt: When does it show up on questionable websites? At the DMV and now I'm looking forward to the doctor when I get home


About 5 minutes after it finishes airing in the UK. It starts at 7:35pm in the UK. Plug "united kingdom time" into google.
 
2012-09-08 11:58:05 AM  
i3.mirror.co.uk

The look of a childhood dream coming to life, riding a f*cking dinosaur.
 
2012-09-08 12:04:02 PM  
With regard to the one-way street of canon between the show and the books/other media:

Per the BBC charter, the books and other media for which the reader/listener/ has to pay cannot be officially considered cannon themselves. That does not mean, however, that the events in those media cannot be adopted into the show and thus canonised.

One certainly sees this when a book / magazine story writer comes to power over the television series, such as Steven Moffat. Last year, just off of the top of my head, he canonised his 1995 usenet post about the etymology of "doctor" and characters & places from his 1996 short story, "Continuity Errors". Indeed, I think -- at least during Moffat's run -- that "Continuity Errors" as a whole might as well be considered to be de facto canon.

Moffat is also on record as saying off hand that everything can be treated as canon -- although that would mean that Smith is the 16th Doctor, not the 11th, because the four Doctors in Moffat's own charity special "Doctor Who & the Curse of the Fatal Death" and the Shalka Doctor would be canon.

Davies also canonised elements of Terrence Dicks' Big Finish audio drama, "Sarah Jane Smith: Comeback".

Simply put, the books, audio stories (other than BBC radio stories such as those Torchwood ones that came out between season 2 and "Children of Earth"), direct-to-video, short stories, comics, are not canonical by being published. The television series' writers can simply ignore them; they are of no bearing. Their contents can, however, become canon if the television series' writers choose to make them canon by writing them into the series.
 
2012-09-08 12:20:30 PM  
So, after last week's character names of Harvey and Oswald, what other names and terms should we be watching for as we approach next year's 50th anniversary?

Dallas
Dealey (Plaza)
Elm (Street)
Houston (Street)
Main (Street)
Carcano (rifle)
John Fitzgerald Kennedy and Jaqueline Bouvier Kennedy
John & Nellie Connally (Governor & 1st Lady)
J.D. Tippit (police officer also killed by Ruby)
Abraham Zapruder (filmed famous home movie)
"Sparkling" Jack Ruby (killed Oswald)
Jim Leavelle (the detective in the cowboy hat cuffed to Oswald when killed)
Parkland (medical center)
Earl Warren (Chief Justice, chaired the investigating commission)
 
2012-09-08 12:23:18 PM  
imgboot.com
 
2012-09-08 12:32:34 PM  
The Doctor Who areas of Second Life are amazing, and pretty much the only reason to play Second Life. My TARDIS is epic.
 
2012-09-08 12:42:35 PM  
So, is fark hating on Dr. Who now? Has the golden child dun gon rong? Or was the headline just semi-trolling?
 
2012-09-08 12:50:29 PM  
I've never bought any of the novels as official canon, just because the couple I've tried have sucked pretty hard.

OTOH, I'm currently working through the Big Finish audio adventures and in general they've been pretty damn good. Aren't they considered official canon stories by the BBC and the shows production team?
 
2012-09-08 01:03:11 PM  
Remember: You're watching a show made by hipster scum FOR hipster scum.

And it's only popular because there isn't any Star Trek or Battlestar Galactica on TV anymore.
 
2012-09-08 01:06:15 PM  
umm.... BG (if you are talking about the newer series) was complete ass..... JUMP... wait.... JUMP.. wait.. JUMP.... fark me... just horrible...

I don't understand how DW is for hipsters.. but to each their own.. i find it mostly funny...
 
2012-09-08 01:08:38 PM  

kroonermanblack: So, is fark hating on Dr. Who now? Has the golden child dun gon rong? Or was the headline just semi-trolling?


The Ponds divorce plot didn't go over very well last week. And with good reason, since it felt shoehorned in for no reason.
 
2012-09-08 01:17:27 PM  

JudgeItoBox: Remember: You're watching a show made by hipster scum FOR hipster scum.

And it's only popular because there isn't any Star Trek or Battlestar Galactica on TV anymore.


Dr. Who predates hipsters by 40 years (or more)

/ just sayin'
// IMHO, it's better than the recent incarnations of Star Trek, but not quite as good as the BSG remake.
 
2012-09-08 01:27:46 PM  

Forbidden Doughnut: // IMHO, it's better than the recent incarnations of Star Trek, but not quite as good as the BSG remake.


True. Even the most bad-ass scenes in Doctor Who pale in comparison to the Adama Maneoeuvre.
 
2012-09-08 01:43:49 PM  

JudgeItoBox: Remember: You're watching a show made by hipster scum FOR hipster scum.

And it's only popular because there isn't any Star Trek or Battlestar Galactica on TV anymore.


Your troll-fu is weak.
 
2012-09-08 02:03:29 PM  
How can we be sure that Oswin was in the Dalek that the Doctor was talking to? It wasn't clear. Moffat is a hack.

But you junior scriptwriters just keep circle jerking each other about the genius of this stupid show that I hate but watch all the time.
 
2012-09-08 02:12:25 PM  

Forbidden Doughnut: Dr. Who predates hipsters by 40 years (or more)


Well, no- hipsters predate Doctor Who by about 20 years- the original hipsters were into bebop and hot jazz before it was cool. They went to clubs in the "dark" section of town that you've probably never heard of.
 
2012-09-08 02:19:18 PM  

t3knomanser: Well, no- hipsters predate Doctor Who by about 20 years- the original hipsters were into bebop and hot jazz before it was cool. They went to clubs in the "dark" section of town that you've probably never heard of.


20 years before DW? In the middle of the Second World War?
 
2012-09-08 02:36:06 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-08 02:42:05 PM  
Subby seems like a whiny nerd. One of those dime a dozen ones at that.

Basically, you're judging a TIME TRAVEL show on its FIRST EPISODE back?
How farking dumb is that?
Maybe they'll be an episode that explains more.
Maybe one of them were being mind controlled.
Farking A, Subby. Get out of the basement and just sit and watch, THEN judge the whole season on what you saw.
 
2012-09-08 02:44:02 PM  

Tax Boy: [i.imgur.com image 640x960]


That's not how you do it...

i6.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-08 02:44:29 PM  

Spoon over Marin: Let's not bring Martha back.


The hottest and smartest companion our Gallifreyan adventurer has had to date?

Yeah,we'll agree to disagree.
 
2012-09-08 02:46:25 PM  

HopScotchNSoda: t3knomanser: Well, no- hipsters predate Doctor Who by about 20 years- the original hipsters were into bebop and hot jazz before it was cool. They went to clubs in the "dark" section of town that you've probably never heard of.

20 years before DW? In the middle of the Second World War?


Why do you think everything was 'underground'?
 
2012-09-08 02:48:07 PM  

HopScotchNSoda: 20 years before DW? In the middle of the Second World War?


Yes, that would be the era where the first hipsters appeared, although I'll grant, probably not in the UK.
 
2012-09-08 02:51:08 PM  

Zombie DJ: Subby seems like a whiny nerd. One of those dime a dozen ones at that.

Basically, you're judging a TIME TRAVEL show on its FIRST EPISODE back?
How farking dumb is that?
Maybe they'll be an episode that explains more.
Maybe one of them were being mind controlled.
Farking A, Subby. Get out of the basement and just sit and watch, THEN judge the whole season on what you saw.


That whole "ZOMG YOU HAVE TO SEE THE ENTIRE STORY BEFORE PASSING JUDGMENT!!!111!1" argument doesn't hold water when comic book fanboys tell you that you have to read the whole 12 part story before dropping a book, so it certainly doesn't hold up in this case.
 
2012-09-08 02:52:29 PM  

Apos: The hottest and smartest companion our Gallifreyan adventurer has had to date?


encrypted-tbn0.google.com

It must be hard being as wrong as you are. Wrongwrongywrongity wrong.
 
2012-09-08 02:57:55 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Tax Boy: [i.imgur.com image 640x960]

That's not how you do it...

[i6.photobucket.com image 611x778]


Lord up on of this time beast?

That doesn't make any sense.
 
2012-09-08 03:01:27 PM  

t3knomanser: Apos: The hottest and smartest companion our Gallifreyan adventurer has had to date?

[encrypted-tbn0.google.com image 266x189]

It must be hard being as wrong as you are. Wrongwrongywrongity wrong.


Not at all....because I'm not. :)
 
2012-09-08 03:03:34 PM  

t3knomanser: Apos: The hottest and smartest companion our Gallifreyan adventurer has had to date?

[encrypted-tbn0.google.com image 266x189]

It must be hard being as wrong as you are. Wrongwrongywrongity wrong.


Sorry, but Martha is the hottest of the companions, at least on a purely physical level. Great bod, gorgeous looks. Sadly she was written so horribly that I just couldn't get into her very much.
 
2012-09-08 03:06:40 PM  

rickycal78: t3knomanser: Apos: The hottest and smartest companion our Gallifreyan adventurer has had to date?

[encrypted-tbn0.google.com image 266x189]

It must be hard being as wrong as you are. Wrongwrongywrongity wrong.

Sorry, but Martha is the hottest of the companions, at least on a purely physical level. Great bod, gorgeous looks. Sadly she was written so horribly that I just couldn't get into her very much.


If you were a time lord, she would have been begging you to get into her.
 
2012-09-08 03:08:46 PM  

rickycal78: t3knomanser: Apos: The hottest and smartest companion our Gallifreyan adventurer has had to date?

[encrypted-tbn0.google.com image 266x189]

It must be hard being as wrong as you are. Wrongwrongywrongity wrong.

Sorry, but Martha is the hottest of the companions, at least on a purely physical level. Great bod, gorgeous looks. Sadly she was written so horribly that I just couldn't get into her very much.


Precisely!
 
2012-09-08 03:21:40 PM  
It would've been so much better for the Ponds developmentally if the writing staff (Moffat) had the balls to actually have them divorce and stay that way, even if the reasoning was really dumb and unbelievable.
 
2012-09-08 03:49:18 PM  

HopScotchNSoda: So, after last week's character names of Harvey and Oswald, what other names and terms should we be watching for as we approach next year's 50th anniversary?

Dallas
Dealey (Plaza)
Elm (Street)
Houston (Street)
Main (Street)
Carcano (rifle)
John Fitzgerald Kennedy and Jaqueline Bouvier Kennedy
John & Nellie Connally (Governor & 1st Lady)
J.D. Tippit (police officer also killed by Ruby)
Abraham Zapruder (filmed famous home movie)
"Sparkling" Jack Ruby (killed Oswald)
Jim Leavelle (the detective in the cowboy hat cuffed to Oswald when killed)
Parkland (medical center)
Earl Warren (Chief Justice, chaired the investigating commission)


A) I think your "Chair is important" thing is insane from last thread
B) I want you to be right about it because I can't believe you noticed such a small detail like a reused chair prop
 
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