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(Shanghai Daily)   Problem: Foxconn doesn't have enough workers to finish the iPhone 5 on schedule. Solution: Get a few colleges to "suspend" classes for a couple of months and bus their students in for mandatory "internships" on the assembly line   (shanghaidaily.com) divider line 142
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2012-09-08 04:27:07 AM  
China is a country that gets things done.

By treating its citizens like slaves. Should we try this here?
 
2012-09-08 04:29:53 AM  
It is cute how people react when they "discover" the truth behind their cheap consumer goods.

Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
 
2012-09-08 04:43:35 AM  

Sgygus: China is a country that gets things done.

By treating its citizens like slaves.Summer College Interns, or anyone on a Clinical Rotation Should we try this here?


Fixed that for you. Clinical Rotations and Internships are the modern names for slavery.
 
2012-09-08 04:49:02 AM  

Sgygus: China is a country that gets things done.

By treating its citizens like slaves. Should we try this here?


We'll see in November.
 
2012-09-08 05:17:00 AM  
Right. Because the thousands of workers Foxconn already had working on iPhone assembly lines all just vanished into thin air.
 
2012-09-08 06:20:36 AM  

Sgygus: China is a country that gets things done.

By treating its citizens like slaves. Should we try this here?


Not true. Most of these people are clamoring for these jobs.

Are they treated well? No, certainly when it comes to overtime and safety standards in some places. Certainly, the workers were well treated in the places I saw, though I got a video of a ~12 year old working on an assembly line (I forget exactly which company... it was a computer manufacturer)

Slavery, however, is too hyperbolic.
 
2012-09-08 06:26:29 AM  

Sgygus: China is a country that gets things done.

By treating its citizens like slaves. Should we try this here?


Lower unemployment.

bingethinker: Right. Because the thousands of workers Foxconn already had working on iPhone assembly lines all just vanished into thin air.


They're not chained to their seats. They do leave - usually back home to the boonies for the New Year. Last New Year, many just said "他妈的!" and stayed home. There's now a large labor shortage in the coastal cities.

Or maybe they all jumped off the building.
 
2012-09-08 06:39:02 AM  
Foxconn should open plants in america, there are lots of people needing work.
 
2012-09-08 06:39:03 AM  
Hey namatad, the iPhone is "cheap"?
 
2012-09-08 06:45:56 AM  
Most of those greedy Americans who are waiting to use their upgrades to get the I-phone 5 will never hear of this story or sadly care.
 
2012-09-08 06:47:38 AM  
I built iPhones in sweatshops before it was cool.
 
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2012-09-08 06:48:34 AM  

Baconeer: Hey namatad, the iPhone is "cheap"?


Ahh, beat me to it.
 
2012-09-08 06:50:41 AM  
iWant to hear your COMPLAiNTS. iKNOW that BUSiNESS iS HECTiC RiGHT now, but ialso know that food iS also iMPORTANT. So knuckle up and FiLL out your COMPLAiNT cards. We WiLL address them ACCORDiNGLY! Don't forget we love and are always THiNKiNG of you.........
 
2012-09-08 06:53:05 AM  

KrispyKritter: Foxconn should open plants in america, there are lots of people needing work.


Do you think Foxconn would be willing to pay whatever the prevailing minimum wage is in whichever states they chose to open their plants? Do you think they'd willing to follow U.S. labor laws regarding breaks, age of employees, general work conditions, etc.?
 
2012-09-08 06:53:36 AM  
But I was assured that Apple's suppliers had increased wages and improved working conditions dramatically.
 
2012-09-08 06:54:17 AM  
iSlave
 
2012-09-08 06:56:28 AM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Not true. Most of these people are clamoring for these jobs.


If most of these people were really clamoring for these jobs then why is the Chinese government pressing college students to go into forced labour, threatening them with reprisals if they say anything against it?
 
2012-09-08 07:00:18 AM  

maggoo: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Not true. Most of these people are clamoring for these jobs.

If most of these people were really clamoring for these jobs then why is the Chinese government pressing college students to go into forced labour, threatening them with reprisals if they say anything against it?


Because members of the Communist Party don't want to wait even one more day to get their new, surprisingly stylish iPhone 5.
 
2012-09-08 07:06:04 AM  
However, Wu Dong, a lawyer, said the practice violated higher education laws and labor laws and the schools, education and labor rights authorities and Foxconn could be sued.

Can't wait for that to happen ,it'd be a first for china,,,i say the odds were 5;1
 
2012-09-08 07:08:58 AM  
Could be worse, In Uzbekistan, if you're not in college or the Army, You're picking cotton during the harvest.
 
2012-09-08 07:18:43 AM  
China IS a communist country, comrade.
 
2012-09-08 07:24:20 AM  

prjindigo: China IS a communist country, comrade.


China is communist like the United States is capitalist. If corrupt were a political ideology, that would aptly describe the Chinese system.

namatad: It is cute how people react when they "discover" the truth behind their cheap consumer goods.

Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah


If 650 bucks is cheap to you, do you have to be at the gym in 25 minutes in your Black Mans Wish?
 
2012-09-08 07:35:21 AM  
And this just makes my iPhone that much cooler.
 
2012-09-08 07:36:34 AM  

KrispyKritter: Foxconn should open plants in america, there are lots of people needing work.


And here is the lone voice of reason.
 
2012-09-08 07:42:53 AM  

prjindigo: China IS a communist country, comrade.


Communist countries are people, my friend.

dtdstudios.com
 
2012-09-08 07:45:44 AM  

Katolu: KrispyKritter: Foxconn should open plants in america, there are lots of people needing work.

And here is the lone voice of reason.


But people in America will demand for proper wage and sue the company to hell if they don't pay them properly. In China, they have almost full control of the people and they can bully them around easily.

"Pay $60 a day, no way! Why pay $60 if we can pay next to nothing? You crazy, your ancestor not be proud!"
 
2012-09-08 07:47:04 AM  
Those kids were merely thankful for working for great Job Creators(tm) like Mitt Romney.
 
2012-09-08 07:48:31 AM  

Sgygus: China is a country that gets things done.

By treating its citizens like slaves. Should we try this here?


I'm surprised that's not the official Romney-Ryan slogan.
 
2012-09-08 08:05:47 AM  

clevershark: I'm surprised that's not the official Romney-Ryan slogan.


Not to carry the man's water - but Romeny has already said that he'd name China as a currency manipulator.
 
2012-09-08 08:14:25 AM  
In America, factory workers wouldn't be smart enough to go to college.  Bring it here.  USA!  USA!  USA!
 
2012-09-08 08:15:05 AM  

Cauchy_Riemann_equations: clevershark: I'm surprised that's not the official Romney-Ryan slogan.

Not to carry the man's water - but Romeny has already said that he'd name China as a currency manipulator.


Retroactively?
 
2012-09-08 08:19:07 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: KrispyKritter: Foxconn should open plants in america, there are lots of people needing work.

Do you think Foxconn would be willing to pay whatever the prevailing minimum wage is in whichever states they chose to open their plants? Do you think they'd willing to follow U.S. labor laws regarding breaks, age of employees, general work conditions, etc.?


most studies have concluded this would add no more than 12% to the cost of an iPhone  Or apple could, you know, eat the difference seeing as how they are the richest company on earth and have more money in a single bank account that Citibank is worth ($76 billion). It's a question not often asked, but when is big, big ENOUGH for a corporation?
 
2012-09-08 08:25:25 AM  

Magorn:

most studies have concluded this would add no more than 12% to the cost of an iPhone  Or apple could, you know, eat the difference seeing as how they are the richest company on earth and have more money in a single bank account that Citibank is worth ($76 billion). It's a question not often asked, but when is big, big ENOUGH for a corporation?


It is never big enough. You always need growth, to drive stock prices up. You may be able to sustain a nice profit, but if you don't have growth, you fail as a megacorp.
 
2012-09-08 08:27:51 AM  
As long as fat lazy stupid Americans get their shiny, no one here gives even a hint of a fark.
 
2012-09-08 08:27:56 AM  

KrispyKritter: Foxconn should open plants in america, there are lots of people needing work.


Not going to happen because of the costs of employment and frequently, quite onerous labour regulations.

I have no problem with Chinese people building stuff, or even if people are working the sort of hours that our grandparents did, if it lifts them out of poverty and gives them better lives. But forcing people to work somewhere is completely wrong.

The problem is that most people are farking hypocrites. They'll preach about human rights when it's a fashionable cause like Tibet, but when it comes to them making even the smallest sacrifice in their life, they don't give a crap.
 
2012-09-08 08:28:33 AM  
People that biatch about this should realize that countries like china are overtaking the US because they arn't such pussies about using the labor they can.. AND.. if they ever are forced to unionize and get a EPA over there, everything we buy will skyrocket in price.. i thank my future Chinese overlords for their low prices!
 
2012-09-08 08:38:14 AM  

Cauchy_Riemann_equations: clevershark: I'm surprised that's not the official Romney-Ryan slogan.

Not to carry the man's water - but Romeny has already said that he'd name China as a currency manipulator.


That's really neither here nor there, and he's not going to do that even if he does get elected. Even 11 years ago tough guy Dubya apologized to China for them shooting a US plane down. Rmoney is about to find out that he's got a lot to learn.
 
2012-09-08 08:40:05 AM  
It's capitalism with a communism mindset.

or slavery. Whichever.
 
2012-09-08 08:42:54 AM  
My company has a plant in Shanghai, which i visit quite a bit. They just instituted mandatory 12 hour shifts, am-pm and pm-am.


UGGGGHHHHH
 
2012-09-08 08:46:47 AM  

Baconeer: Hey namatad, the iPhone is "cheap"?


Serious question:

What would it cost if made in a U.S. plant that meets OSHA safety, EPA clean air and union labor?

/not trolling nor condoning the actions in TFA.
 
2012-09-08 08:59:53 AM  
My googlefu sucks, but I remember seeing a study saying it would cost 12-15% more for electronic goods to be built in the US. Apple has something like 50% margin on these products. The major stockholders would never accept a cut in profits, and my feeling is most people worldwide (And my fellow Americans included) wouldn't pay that much more. They are used the cheaper prices.

Who is a master in googlefu? A simple search turns up nothing and I have a hangover!
 
2012-09-08 09:00:15 AM  
The All-Powerful Atheismo

Not true. Most of these people are clamoring for these jobs. 

I don't know about that. I go to China for work a few times a year (standard Shanghai stuff, and some rural industrial places, too) and I don't see many people clamoring for much, especially not sweatshop jobs. After having to do repair work in many large IC fabs in China, I'm pretty convinced that nobody working at those factories would stay, if they were told they didn't have to anymore.

/Not saying Chinese is lazy
//Saying its crappy to work in communist country
 
2012-09-08 09:02:12 AM  

clevershark: Sgygus: China is a country that gets things done.

By treating its citizens like slaves. Should we try this here?

I'm surprised that's not the official Romney-Ryan slogan.


Why Romney? Obama and other libtards are all for tax slavery.
 
2012-09-08 09:04:55 AM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Not true. Most of these people are clamoring for these jobs.


People clamoring to work for slave wages under slavery conditions doesn't make those slave wages and conditions more acceptable.
 
2012-09-08 09:11:08 AM  
farm7.staticflickr.com
In North Korea university students were compelled to work in apartment construction for the 2012 centennial of Kim Il-sung's birth. The universities were closed for almost a year. I took this one of university students marching to work early in the morning one year ago.
 
2012-09-08 09:22:01 AM  
Put those little bastards to work, this iPhone 4 is not making my life better and the next one will for sure.
 
2012-09-08 09:27:43 AM  

sendtodave: bingethinker: Right. Because the thousands of workers Foxconn already had working on iPhone assembly lines all just vanished into thin air.

They're not chained to their seats. They do leave - usually back home to the boonies for the New Year. Last New Year, many just said "fark!" and stayed home. There's now a large labor shortage in the coastal cities.

Or maybe they all jumped off the building.


It's a catch-22: there's a labor shortage because manufacturers (even Foxconn) aren't paying enough to interest workers who've moved a notch or two up on the economic scale. But, the reason those factory jobs exist in the first place is because of the expectation that they can be filled by low-wage workers.

What should be more concerning to the Chinese government is persistent unemployment / underemployment for its legions of college graduates. I liked this tidbit from the article:

An official, who refused to be named, said it was a common practice to send students to renowned companies and factories, something that served the enterprises and expanded students' horizons, he said.

"It's hard for students to find jobs which are precisely related to their majors. Therefore, they are encouraged to go to factories to learn more about society," he said.


Translation: Enjoy this taste of factory life, kids, because it's what's waiting for you when you get out of school!
 
2012-09-08 09:38:35 AM  
It sounds like a modern version of the reeducation camps of the 1960's. Take the "intellectual" students and remind them of what society is for (keep the old guys in charge).

Mao would be proud.
 
2012-09-08 09:38:40 AM  

Sgygus: China is a country that gets things done.

By treating its citizens like slaves. Should we try this here?


Why bother, when we can just treat them like refuse.
 
2012-09-08 09:39:42 AM  

AcneVulgaris: Sgygus: China is a country that gets things done.

By treating its citizens like slaves. Should we try this here?

Why bother, when we can just treat them like refuse.


I refuse to treat them like refuse.
 
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