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2012-09-08 12:31:31 AM
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LiLo is starting to look a lot like Courtney Love in that photo. She's also just about as coherent.
 
2012-09-08 01:22:39 AM
If millionaires didn't want to have to pay taxes, they shouldn't have become millionaires.
 
2012-09-08 01:48:13 AM
The bars and drug dealers probably reinvest her money rather quickly..
 
2012-09-08 01:58:08 AM
Exits are clearly marked for your convenience
 
2012-09-08 01:59:27 AM
Tax cuts for people that Forbes says are millionaires, but aren't.
 
2012-09-08 02:55:42 AM
Lilo is hitting the bottle earlier in the day, I guess. If she wasn't drunk, then I've lost any last bit of sympathy I once had for her.
 
2012-09-08 03:12:34 AM
you can't deduct blow!

or can you?
hmm....

therapy powder?
 
2012-09-08 03:15:22 AM
I wish my taxes were a bit lower.
 
2012-09-08 03:15:48 AM
Here's my problem with raising taxes on the rich as much as you want. Unlike your average Joe Schmo, if they get tired of paying such a high tax rate they have the resources to leave the country and move somewhere else where the tax rates are more to their liking. This is just my opinion and I am admittedly drunk right now
 
2012-09-08 03:19:32 AM

Dr J Zoidberg: Here's my problem with raising taxes on the rich as much as you want. Unlike your average Joe Schmo, if they get tired of paying such a high tax rate they have the resources to leave the country and move somewhere else where the tax rates are more to their liking. This is just my opinion and I am admittedly drunk right now


Except the only way to dodge US taxes is to renounce citizenship, as Mr. Savarin from Facebook did before its IPO
 
2012-09-08 03:21:26 AM

HaywoodJablonski: Dr J Zoidberg: Here's my problem with raising taxes on the rich as much as you want. Unlike your average Joe Schmo, if they get tired of paying such a high tax rate they have the resources to leave the country and move somewhere else where the tax rates are more to their liking. This is just my opinion and I am admittedly drunk right now

Except the only way to dodge US taxes is to renounce citizenship, as Mr. Savarin from Facebook did before its IPO


And yet even with the stock of facebook plummeting he still has more money than I can ever hope to make if I live and work to be 200
 
2012-09-08 03:22:08 AM

HaywoodJablonski: Except the only way to dodge US taxes is to renounce citizenship, as Mr. Savarin from Facebook did before its IPO


More than that - you have to renounce citizenship before actually making the money. Had he waited until after the IPO and then renounced it, he would have still been on the hook for the taxes.
 
2012-09-08 03:22:16 AM

Dr J Zoidberg: Here's my problem with raising taxes on the rich as much as you want. Unlike your average Joe Schmo, if they get tired of paying such a high tax rate they have the resources to leave the country and move somewhere else where the tax rates are more to their liking. This is just my opinion and I am admittedly drunk right now


Well, bye.
 
2012-09-08 03:22:35 AM
Dear republicans,
This is the kind of people you so desperately want to help? Can we all agree that stupid should be taxed?
 
2012-09-08 03:23:19 AM

propasaurus: Tax cuts for people that Forbes says are millionaires, but aren't.


If you make $2,000,000 a year, but you happen to spend $1,900,000 a year on coke, you're a millionaire regardless of your bank statement. Corporations may be people, but people aren't corporations- we don't have the luxury of paying income taxes only on our PROFIT.
 
2012-09-08 03:25:16 AM
In a twisted way, I kinda like having people like Lindsay Lohan and Jenny McCarthy around. When they state an opinion, you can pretty much guarantee that that argument is completely stupid. Yes, we have scientific research and common sense to tell us that vaccines are good and have more = give more and what not... but frankly hearing those two idiots state their beliefs with such conviction is an even more compelling argment against them. I mean, if they told me the world was round, I'd start to wonder if it's really flat, based solely on my knowledge of their stupidity.
 
2012-09-08 03:25:24 AM

The My Little Pony Killer: If millionaires didn't want to have to pay taxes, they shouldn't have become millionaires.


You must not keep up with the tax dodging stories.......a lot of millionaires DON'T pay taxes, then end up in prison for a few years. Most recent one I believe was noted racist Lauren Hill. But there is a long laundry list of "entertainers" who "forget" to pay the tax man.
 
2012-09-08 03:25:55 AM
Income tax rates right now are as low as they've been at any point in modern history. The only exception was a brief period in the late 1980s where the top bracket was momentarily at 29% (this only lasted for a few years). Beyond that, you would have to go back to before the outbreak of World War II to find a time in history when Americans were paying lower income tax rates than they are today. And even then, things like the mortgage interest deduction and child credits didn't exist.

It befuddles me that so many people think that their income taxes are at historical highs. How can people possibly think this?

People scream about how they want their taxes lowered in the same breath that they scream about how much they hate the deficit. Then they scream about how much they want to go to war with Iraq, and how much they want a prescription drug benefit for Medicare. Then they scream about how their roads and bridges and water systems are in desperate need of repair. And you don't even want to know what they do if you suggest cutting a single plugged nickel from the defense budget, even after we've left Iraq and are getting ready to do the same in Afghanistan.

This is a stupid, stupid country. Somebody ought to take us out behind the woodshed and kick our ass.
 
2012-09-08 03:27:04 AM
One would have to admit that with all the "journalists" and paparazzi who follow Lohan and with all of the police officers, judges, bailiffs, lawyers, and other people she keeps employed, she has provided a great deal of economic stimulus. Perhaps she should receive some tax credit for that.
 
2012-09-08 03:29:45 AM
This is really just her saying she's desperate for money, right?
 
2012-09-08 03:35:01 AM
Wouldn't she have to have some INCOME to tax first?
 
2012-09-08 03:35:52 AM
they still have taxes huh ...haven't heard that one in years ..
 
2012-09-08 03:44:17 AM

seventypercent: Income tax rates right now are as low as they've been at any point in modern history. The only exception was a brief period in the late 1980s where the top bracket was momentarily at 29% (this only lasted for a few years). Beyond that, you would have to go back to before the outbreak of World War II to find a time in history when Americans were paying lower income tax rates than they are today. And even then, things like the mortgage interest deduction and child credits didn't exist.

It befuddles me that so many people think that their income taxes are at historical highs. How can people possibly think this?

People scream about how they want their taxes lowered in the same breath that they scream about how much they hate the deficit. Then they scream about how much they want to go to war with Iraq, and how much they want a prescription drug benefit for Medicare. Then they scream about how their roads and bridges and water systems are in desperate need of repair. And you don't even want to know what they do if you suggest cutting a single plugged nickel from the defense budget, even after we've left Iraq and are getting ready to do the same in Afghanistan.

This is a stupid, stupid country. Somebody ought to take us out behind the woodshed and kick our ass.


Not to sound insensitive, but they kinda did that... on September 11. Only instead of us learning lessons about our stupid behavior and the attitudes that cause the rest of the world to hate us, we just threw a tantrum, doubled down on our stupidity and broke everything around us. Now we're wondering why all our shiat's broken. Stupidity is sadly not something that can be fixed with an ass-kicking.
 
2012-09-08 03:44:36 AM

Dr J Zoidberg: Here's my problem with raising taxes on the rich as much as you want. Unlike your average Joe Schmo, if they get tired of paying such a high tax rate they have the resources to leave the country and move somewhere else where the tax rates are more to their liking. This is just my opinion and I am admittedly drunk right now


Admittedly, a lot of performers left England in the 1960s and 1970s in an attempt to circumvent high tax rates.

But entrepreneurship abhors a vacuum. If you'd like to leave, pay your outbound tax bill and don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
 
2012-09-08 03:45:28 AM

The My Little Pony Killer: If millionaires didn't want to have to pay taxes, they shouldn't have become millionaires.


They're totally so pissed off about socialism that they probably won't even make a million dollars next year. I mean, if they have to pay taxes why should they even try to be good at what they do anymore? fark that shiat.
 
2012-09-08 03:47:28 AM
Lindsey, you're asking the wrong guy. Obama isn't looking to cut your taxes. I know this isn't going to stop you from voting for him, but he's not the one who's going to give you any help.

BTW: what the fark is up with Lindsey Lohan and Amanda "hit and run" Bynes appealing to Obama for help with their troubles???
 
2012-09-08 03:53:58 AM

batcookie: Not to sound insensitive, but they kinda did that... on September 11. Only instead of us learning lessons about our stupid behavior and the attitudes that cause the rest of the world to hate us, we just threw a tantrum, doubled down on our stupidity and broke everything around us. Now we're wondering why all our shiat's broken. Stupidity is sadly not something that can be fixed with an ass-kicking.


Perhaps the ass-kicking metaphor was a bit too literal. I'm not really talking about a violent, militaristic, or terroristic ass-kicking. I'm thinking more of an intellectual ass-kicking. I'm thinking more along the lines of forcing people to answer questions like "Why do you believe things that are clearly and demonstrably untrue? (e.g., that your tax rates are historically high)" and "Why do you complain about the debt, and yet cry foul anytime somebody suggests something that would actually make a difference?"
 
2012-09-08 03:59:45 AM

seventypercent: batcookie: Not to sound insensitive, but they kinda did that... on September 11. Only instead of us learning lessons about our stupid behavior and the attitudes that cause the rest of the world to hate us, we just threw a tantrum, doubled down on our stupidity and broke everything around us. Now we're wondering why all our shiat's broken. Stupidity is sadly not something that can be fixed with an ass-kicking.

Perhaps the ass-kicking metaphor was a bit too literal. I'm not really talking about a violent, militaristic, or terroristic ass-kicking. I'm thinking more of an intellectual ass-kicking. I'm thinking more along the lines of forcing people to answer questions like "Why do you believe things that are clearly and demonstrably untrue? (e.g., that your tax rates are historically high)" and "Why do you complain about the debt, and yet cry foul anytime somebody suggests something that would actually make a difference?"


Ah, you want the psychological answer. Most human irrationality can be traced back to one thing - anxiety. Change is scary, and we fight tooth and nail to keep our schema intact, even if that schema is completely and demonstrably irrational. Metacognition is necessary to overcome this, but most people shy away from it for the same reason - it's scary to analyze ourselves. Human beings are actually quite cowardly when it comes to facing ourselves.
 
2012-09-08 04:00:10 AM

Dr J Zoidberg: Here's my problem with raising taxes on the rich as much as you want. Unlike your average Joe Schmo, if they get tired of paying such a high tax rate they have the resources to leave the country and move somewhere else where the tax rates are more to their liking. This is just my opinion and I am admittedly drunk right now


I doubt many would leave the country but they do have the resources to hide their money and fine ways to make income not look like income or however they get away with it now.

why not add a 1.5% national sales tax on every internet transaction. tax the crap out of porn, phone sex stuff like that
 
2012-09-08 04:13:25 AM

Waldo Pepper: Dr J Zoidberg: Here's my problem with raising taxes on the rich as much as you want. Unlike your average Joe Schmo, if they get tired of paying such a high tax rate they have the resources to leave the country and move somewhere else where the tax rates are more to their liking. This is just my opinion and I am admittedly drunk right now

I doubt many would leave the country but they do have the resources to hide their money and fine ways to make income not look like income or however they get away with it now.

why not add a 1.5% national sales tax on every internet transaction. tax the crap out of porn, phone sex stuff like that


Papa Johns internet pizza would cost 21 cents more per pizza, that's just unamerican! I'm sure with tax like that he'll just stop selling pizza online. Think of all the jobs that would be lost! Why do you hate job creators?
 
2012-09-08 04:13:27 AM

FatalDischarge: Dear republicans,
This is the kind of people you so desperately want to help?


Dear libtards, this is an example of a strawman argument.
 
2012-09-08 04:14:07 AM

seventypercent: batcookie: Not to sound insensitive, but they kinda did that... on September 11. Only instead of us learning lessons about our stupid behavior and the attitudes that cause the rest of the world to hate us, we just threw a tantrum, doubled down on our stupidity and broke everything around us. Now we're wondering why all our shiat's broken. Stupidity is sadly not something that can be fixed with an ass-kicking.

Perhaps the ass-kicking metaphor was a bit too literal. I'm not really talking about a violent, militaristic, or terroristic ass-kicking. I'm thinking more of an intellectual ass-kicking. I'm thinking more along the lines of forcing people to answer questions like "Why do you believe things that are clearly and demonstrably untrue? (e.g., that your tax rates are historically high)" and "Why do you complain about the debt, and yet cry foul anytime somebody suggests something that would actually make a difference?"


Here's my problem, when I get paid, my money goes to taxes and Social Security. I just turned 34. I use 'Social Security' as another term for tax because I have to pay into it, I'm never going to get what I will have paid into it back. The Federal Government should do one of two things: either stop the program and let us either save the money ourselves or starve, or take the money paid into the program and not touch it. They aren't going to do either one of these.

The other problem is that when it comes to taxes, not just income tax, but in all the different ways we get taxed daily, we are shafted. The government suggests raising taxes and yes, I am against it because the problem isn't that we don't pay enough in taxes, it's that the government, especially Congress, has a spending problem. They budget almost twice as what they actually bring in and two thirds of what actually comes in is spend on the military. Now, if you had grown kids who were spending twice what they were making, you'd sit them down and tell them eventually something is going to have to give, and to start spending the money that actually comes into the home and not what they would like to have come into the home. That's the angle that has to be taken within Congress. An honest look at what is actually collected through taxes and a look at the budget and what should be government spent and what can go to the private sector. The TSA, for example, let that go to the private sector. Don't be stupid with it and make it a 100 year contract. Make it a two year contract and make the company accountable for what happens at airports. Repairs to infrastructure, let the private sector do that. As for paying for it, no company is going to do it for free, but if a company could figure out a way to profit off of repairing bridges and water lines, let them do it. The best thing we can do as a nation when it comes to taxes and government spending is to ask: "What should the government be handling and what should be up to me?" My retirement, I'd rather leave that to a reputable financial adviser. People hear that and say "But...Bernie Madoff." Yeah, he screwed over people, but I'd get a better return on my money stuffing it under a mattress then I am out of Social Security. Military, yeah, let the government handle that. I really wouldn't want to see corporations with military powers. The post office??? let it die out. Between email, Fedex and UPS I think we will all be okay. Healthcare, my healthcare shouldn't be the responsibility of the tax payers. Having just taken my exam to get my Life, Health and Accidental Insurance license, I think the system might need an overhaul.
 
2012-09-08 04:14:21 AM
LL is portrayed as a has-been drunk drug user who is no longer employable. Someone is making sure she is in the papers, on TV and all over the internet almost every day of the week. That's a lot of publicity for someone supposedly all washed up and farked up beyond all repair.
 
2012-09-08 04:16:43 AM
b>OhioUGrad: The My Little Pony Killer: If millionaires didn't want to have to pay taxes, they shouldn't have become millionaires.

You must not keep up with the tax dodging stories.......a lot of millionaires DON'T pay taxes, then end up in prison for a few years. Most recent one I believe was noted racist Lauren Hill. But there is a long laundry list of "entertainers" who "forget" to pay the tax man.



a href="http://www.snopes.com/quotes/lauryn.asp" target="_blank">
Snopes: Lauryn Hill. See also: Michelle Malkin on why the Michelle Obama Hate Whitey tape does not exist, but rumors persist
 
2012-09-08 04:17:30 AM
Lindsay Lohan still has money? How?
 
2012-09-08 04:20:40 AM

OhioUGrad: The My Little Pony Killer: If millionaires didn't want to have to pay taxes, they shouldn't have become millionaires.

You must not keep up with the tax dodging stories.......a lot of millionaires DON'T pay taxes, then end up in prison for a few years. Most recent one I believe was noted racist Lauren Hill. But there is a long laundry list of "entertainers" who "forget" to pay the tax man.


Let's try that again:

The Lauryn Hill anti-white tape does not exist
Just like the Michelle Obama anti-white tape does not exist.
Black folk had the Snapple slave ships and Tommy Hilfiger rumors. White folk have the Lauryn Hill and Michelle Obama rumors. What do Latins, Amerindians and Asians have?
 
2012-09-08 04:24:13 AM

Dr J Zoidberg: Here's my problem with raising taxes on the rich as much as you want. Unlike your average Joe Schmo, if they get tired of paying such a high tax rate they have the resources to leave the country and move somewhere else where the tax rates are more to their liking. This is just my opinion and I am admittedly drunk right now


this is a myth. no businessman is going to move and set up shop in a country where there aren't republicans around to suck his cawk.
 
2012-09-08 04:29:22 AM

Great Janitor: The post office??? let it die out. Between email, Fedex and UPS I think we will all be okay. Healthcare, my healthcare shouldn't be the responsibility of the tax payers. Having just taken my exam to get my Life, Health and Accidental Insurance license, I think the system might need an overhaul.


the post office doesn't use tax dollars.

and mail a letter using FedEx and UPS, as well as the USPS tomorrow and report to me which one is cheapest, and by how much.
 
2012-09-08 04:30:08 AM

rga184: Dr J Zoidberg: Here's my problem with raising taxes on the rich as much as you want. Unlike your average Joe Schmo, if they get tired of paying such a high tax rate they have the resources to leave the country and move somewhere else where the tax rates are more to their liking. This is just my opinion and I am admittedly drunk right now

this is a myth. no businessman is going to move and set up shop in a country where there aren't republicans around to suck his cawk.


Now now, let's be fair. There are idiots everywhere. Just because they don't call themselves by the American term, doesn't mean they aren't there.
 
2012-09-08 04:33:47 AM
Her point is remarkably stupid and trivial, but I cannot see why it was impossible for the author of TFA to discern it.
 
2012-09-08 04:36:59 AM

rga184: Great Janitor: The post office??? let it die out. Between email, Fedex and UPS I think we will all be okay. Healthcare, my healthcare shouldn't be the responsibility of the tax payers. Having just taken my exam to get my Life, Health and Accidental Insurance license, I think the system might need an overhaul.

the post office doesn't use tax dollars.

and mail a letter using FedEx and UPS, as well as the USPS tomorrow and report to me which one is cheapest, and by how much.


The post office doesn't use tax dollars?

The USPS does get some taxpayer support. Around $96 million is budgeted annually by Congress for the "Postal Service Fund." These funds are used to compensate USPS for postage-free mailing for all legally blind persons and for mail-in election ballots sent from US citizens living overseas. A portion of the funds also pays USPS for providing address information to state and local child support enforcement agencies. Link

Wow, one quick Google search proved you wrong.
 
2012-09-08 04:40:02 AM

rga184: Great Janitor: The post office??? let it die out. Between email, Fedex and UPS I think we will all be okay. Healthcare, my healthcare shouldn't be the responsibility of the tax payers. Having just taken my exam to get my Life, Health and Accidental Insurance license, I think the system might need an overhaul.

the post office doesn't use tax dollars.

and mail a letter using FedEx and UPS, as well as the USPS tomorrow and report to me which one is cheapest, and by how much.


a lot of people rely on the daily mail. people in small towns and rural areas the post office is central to their business. Also email isn't as strong as it used to be with so many people using facebook and text message for communication. I have to fight with my family not to message important stuff on fb but to send it to my email but they just don't get it.
 
2012-09-08 04:41:21 AM

Dr J Zoidberg: Here's my problem with raising taxes on the rich as much as you want. Unlike your average Joe Schmo, if they get tired of paying such a high tax rate they have the resources to leave the country and move somewhere else where the tax rates are more to their liking. This is just my opinion and I am admittedly drunk right now


It's ok someone else will be happy to step up and fill the void. Isn't that how being bootstrappy works?
 
2012-09-08 04:45:29 AM

Gyrfalcon: rga184: Great Janitor: The post office??? let it die out. Between email, Fedex and UPS I think we will all be okay. Healthcare, my healthcare shouldn't be the responsibility of the tax payers. Having just taken my exam to get my Life, Health and Accidental Insurance license, I think the system might need an overhaul.

the post office doesn't use tax dollars.

and mail a letter using FedEx and UPS, as well as the USPS tomorrow and report to me which one is cheapest, and by how much.

The post office doesn't use tax dollars?

The USPS does get some taxpayer support. Around $96 million is budgeted annually by Congress for the "Postal Service Fund." These funds are used to compensate USPS for postage-free mailing for all legally blind persons and for mail-in election ballots sent from US citizens living overseas. A portion of the funds also pays USPS for providing address information to state and local child support enforcement agencies. Link

Wow, one quick Google search proved you wrong.


Isn't that like a company receiving Government funds for providing a service to said Government? I don't see how paying for services rendered is bad.
 
2012-09-08 04:49:19 AM
Hasn't that whore O.D.ed yet??
 
2012-09-08 04:50:53 AM

Gyrfalcon: rga184: Great Janitor: The post office??? let it die out. Between email, Fedex and UPS I think we will all be okay. Healthcare, my healthcare shouldn't be the responsibility of the tax payers. Having just taken my exam to get my Life, Health and Accidental Insurance license, I think the system might need an overhaul.

the post office doesn't use tax dollars.

and mail a letter using FedEx and UPS, as well as the USPS tomorrow and report to me which one is cheapest, and by how much.

The post office doesn't use tax dollars?

The USPS does get some taxpayer support. Around $96 million is budgeted annually by Congress for the "Postal Service Fund." These funds are used to compensate USPS for postage-free mailing for all legally blind persons and for mail-in election ballots sent from US citizens living overseas. A portion of the funds also pays USPS for providing address information to state and local child support enforcement agencies. Link

Wow, one quick Google search proved you wrong.


Sounds to me like they are receiving pay for services rendered. Yes, it's tax dollars, but it's not subsidizing them, and that's the important bit... I wonder how much they would have to pay UPS or FedEx for the same services.

The USPS offers unparalleled value, and is self-sustaining. It has a wider coverage, serving small communities areas where it is unprofitable for private companies. That helps people, as well as businesses, and is part of what helps them grow. After enough growth, it would even be profitable for private companies, but without initial support they would never get to that point. Infrastructure, utilities, and post is what the government is best.
 
2012-09-08 04:51:25 AM
People who make over $1Million a year should be taxed at 70%, unless they've served in the military. Then they could be taxed like the rest of us.
 
2012-09-08 04:51:53 AM

Gyrfalcon: rga184: Great Janitor: The post office??? let it die out. Between email, Fedex and UPS I think we will all be okay. Healthcare, my healthcare shouldn't be the responsibility of the tax payers. Having just taken my exam to get my Life, Health and Accidental Insurance license, I think the system might need an overhaul.

the post office doesn't use tax dollars.

and mail a letter using FedEx and UPS, as well as the USPS tomorrow and report to me which one is cheapest, and by how much.

The post office doesn't use tax dollars?

The USPS does get some taxpayer support. Around $96 million is budgeted annually by Congress for the "Postal Service Fund." These funds are used to compensate USPS for postage-free mailing for all legally blind persons and for mail-in election ballots sent from US citizens living overseas. A portion of the funds also pays USPS for providing address information to state and local child support enforcement agencies. Link

Wow, one quick Google search proved you wrong.


Seems like the government is a customer spending funds for specific services, rather than propping up USPS with our money.
 
2012-09-08 04:54:06 AM
You all should be more appreciative.
If it weren't for celebrity opinions, I have no idea how I'd run my life.
 
2012-09-08 04:57:46 AM

Gyrfalcon: Stuff



I agree with you much more often than not but, this time I agree with those that dispute your interpretation on this. Using taxpayer dollars to pay the USPS for services rendered is not the same thing as using taxpayer dollars to finance the USPS.
 
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