liam76: //Israel refuses nuclear inspectors in their State. -Israel is not party to any treaty that requires them to, unlike Iran.
quatchi: PM McSweatervest shutting down the Canadian Tehran embassy sends a strong message to the less-than-legitimate Iranian regime that the west is seriously considering all options.It might not be a bluff this time. I don't think he came up with idea all by himself either.
LoneWolf343: Who know, here's a brilliant idea that I think really ought to be tried. Instead of breathing down Iran's neck, how about we offer to co-op a thorium nuclear plant venture, that way they get their nuclear reactor, and they can't make a nuke out of it. At the very least, if they refuse, we would actually have evidence they are up to something.
chuckufarlie: Fuggin Bizzy: chuckufarlie: Eastasia was basically one half of the world and Eurasia was the other half.Sorry, you're completely wrong. If Eastasia was one half of the world, and Eurasia was the other half, what the hell was Oceania? What the hell was Oceania, Bart?This really wasn't supposed to be in-depth analysis of classic literature. It's FARK on a Saturday morning. I was sort of making a joke (you know, referring to a 29-year-old as a youngster when I'm only ten years older), and casually pointing out some parallels I see between current events and 1984. I disagree I'm "completely wrong" - war was a constant underlying theme of that book, and the U.S. finds itself today in a "war forevermore" mindset. The war drums never stop anymore.But...I've already written too much on the topic, for FARK on a Saturday morning.What part of the word "basically" do you not understand? At any rate, the war in the book was on a much larger scale than what is going on now.
Mentat: Oh good, the Junior Republicans are getting involved. Thanks Canada.
Fluorescent Testicle: James F. Campbell: I believe that if Israel attacks Iran, Obama will support them. He'll support them not because it's politically convenient to do so -- frankly, I think the people who'd normally be impressed with his support for Israel would still be voting against him due to his skin color; the smart move would be standing up to Israel -- but because he personally believes it is the right thing to do. I find this disappointing on a number of levels.Really? I might be wrong, but I've never gotten that vibe from Obama. His military decisions up until now have been more defensive than offensive, reasoned, direct and successful; why would he throw such a sterling reputation away for the sake of the playground bully who runs to his daddy the first time the other kids fight back?/I don't like Israel, but I don't like Iran or Palestine either.//They all need to grow the fark up.
gadian: Goddammit Canada, you guys usually have your shiat together. Are you just bored and acting out for attention?
that bosnian sniper: liam76: Nobody in Israel wants war.Netanyahu and the Likud government's been banging the war drums and rattling its sabres against Iran since it took the Knesset. This was part of its platform in 2009. Its coalition includes Shas and Yisrael Beiteinu, which are also both right-wing parties that are extremely hawkish, particularly against Iran.These people were voted for in a free and fair election.Don't give me that "nobody in Israel wants war" crap, because if nobody in Israel wanted war we'd have seen a Kadima/Labor coalition, instead of Likud/Shas/YB.
Phil Moskowitz: gadian: Goddammit Canada, you guys usually have your shiat together. Are you just bored and acting out for attention?Our politics has caught The American Disease.
Aye Carumba: Chemical agents are bad, but there is no certainty of complete annihilation.
Aye Carumba: Plenty of disincentives for them to do that for decades, retaliatory action that any US president since has at his disposal and would have used. By softening the line, the deterrent doesn't work as well.
that bosnian sniper: Aye Carumba: Chemical agents are bad, but there is no certainty of complete annihilation."Iran hasn't attacked yet because the WMD's it has aren't destructive enough!" Well, that's certainly a new one.
shower_in_my_socks: BFD. We lived with that kind of fear in the US for decades.
bootman: LoneWolf343: Who know, here's a brilliant idea that I think really ought to be tried. Instead of breathing down Iran's neck, how about we offer to co-op a thorium nuclear plant venture, that way they get their nuclear reactor, and they can't make a nuke out of it. At the very least, if they refuse, we would actually have evidence they are up to something.Take into account that the main objective of the Iranian government is not the well being of the Iranian people. Their main goal is to remain in power. The Iranian government is deeply unpopular with the Iranian people and maintain their hold on power over the Iranian people through oppression. The actions of the Iranian government are designed to provoke external actors and the reactions from these external actors are the meat and potatoes for keeping the Iranian people under boot./Substitute Iranian for North Korean and re-read.
Blairr: Certainly an improvement on helping Iran make their bunkers bunkerbuster-proof.http://www.economist.com/node/21548918For this reason, Iranian civil engineers are interested in using it in structures as diverse as dams and sewage pipes and are working on improving it. Mahmoud Nili of Bu-Ali Sina University in Hamadan for example, is using polypropylene fibres and quartz flour, known as fume, in his mix. It has the flexibility to absorb far heavier blows than regular concrete. Rouhollah Alizadeh may do better still. Dr Alizadeh, a graduate of the University of Tehran, is currently working at Ottawa University in Canada on the molecular structure of cement. Once again, this research is for civilian purposes and could pave the way for a new generation of UHPC with precisely engineered properties and outstanding performance.
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