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2012-09-07 04:55:27 PM  
FTFA: I realize that I want the viewers to take as active a hand as possible in the show. I like moments of vagueness. I like moments of mystery. ... Mystery is almost always good. Confusion is always bad. You want to be mysterious but not confusing. ... I want the viewers doing as much work as possible. ... They want to be doing the math. ... We now have freedom to dispense with the timid storytelling we've been doing so far."

So... that about seals the HF-filled drum on the "OMG it's just a show about a guy with cancer who makes meth. There are no twists or buried secrets -- everything is as it seems! There is nothing more going on! Jesus, you people!" partisans, doesn't it?

I bet if someone borrowed Obama's magic time machine and posted a preemptive "Walt's going to get Jesse to kill Gale" guess, there would have been people shouting them down for being too twisty / weird / ridiculously elaborate.

/ will soon be off Fark for the weekend and, thus, unable to defend myself, but what the hell...
// Happy Friday, y'all
 
2012-09-07 05:16:58 PM  

SFSailor: FTFA: I realize that I want the viewers to take as active a hand as possible in the show. I like moments of vagueness. I like moments of mystery. ... Mystery is almost always good. Confusion is always bad. You want to be mysterious but not confusing. ... I want the viewers doing as much work as possible. ... They want to be doing the math. ... We now have freedom to dispense with the timid storytelling we've been doing so far."

So... that about seals the HF-filled drum on the "OMG it's just a show about a guy with cancer who makes meth. There are no twists or buried secrets -- everything is as it seems! There is nothing more going on! Jesus, you people!" partisans, doesn't it?

I bet if someone borrowed Obama's magic time machine and posted a preemptive "Walt's going to get Jesse to kill Gale" guess, there would have been people shouting them down for being too twisty / weird / ridiculously elaborate.

/ will soon be off Fark for the weekend and, thus, unable to defend myself, but what the hell...
// Happy Friday, y'all


Wow, not how I would describe the series so far. I mean ***spoiler ahead*** who would've thought Walt Jr. could like breakfast that much.

/damn this break
//damn it to hell!
 
2012-09-07 06:02:33 PM  
I feel like I'm in the minority of Breaking Bad fans. I don't read or watch interviews with Vince Gilligan. I prefer to watch the story unfold as it's aired.

I also think this last season was weak.
 
2012-09-07 06:53:50 PM  
To be fair, anything they did after the showdown with Gus would feel weak in comparison.
 
2012-09-07 06:58:57 PM  

thisisyourbrainonFark: SFSailor: FTFA: I realize that I want the viewers to take as active a hand as possible in the show. I like moments of vagueness. I like moments of mystery. ... Mystery is almost always good. Confusion is always bad. You want to be mysterious but not confusing. ... I want the viewers doing as much work as possible. ... They want to be doing the math. ... We now have freedom to dispense with the timid storytelling we've been doing so far."

So... that about seals the HF-filled drum on the "OMG it's just a show about a guy with cancer who makes meth. There are no twists or buried secrets -- everything is as it seems! There is nothing more going on! Jesus, you people!" partisans, doesn't it?

I bet if someone borrowed Obama's magic time machine and posted a preemptive "Walt's going to get Jesse to kill Gale" guess, there would have been people shouting them down for being too twisty / weird / ridiculously elaborate.

/ will soon be off Fark for the weekend and, thus, unable to defend myself, but what the hell...
// Happy Friday, y'all

Wow, not how I would describe the series so far. I mean ***spoiler ahead*** who would've thought Walt Jr. could like breakfast that much.

/damn this break
//damn it to hell!


This break you speak of.....would you consider it.......bad?
 
2012-09-07 07:06:33 PM  

Happy Hours: I feel like I'm in the minority of Breaking Bad fans. I don't read or watch interviews with Vince Gilligan. I prefer to watch the story unfold as it's aired.


No, I'm with you.

Happy Hours: I also think this last season was weak.


That I don't necessarily agree with. We also have to remember this was just the first *half* of season 5, so things will escalate quickly. I mean, they pretty much have to at this point. We're at the end of the run.
 
2012-09-07 07:10:24 PM  
This is all quite interesting, but I notice Vince dodges the most important question of all, and really the key to the entire series:

Whose bathroom was Hank taking a dump in?
 
2012-09-07 07:12:55 PM  

Keywork99: Happy Hours: I feel like I'm in the minority of Breaking Bad fans. I don't read or watch interviews with Vince Gilligan. I prefer to watch the story unfold as it's aired.

No, I'm with you.

Happy Hours: I also think this last season was weak.

That I don't necessarily agree with. We also have to remember this was just the first *half* of season 5, so things will escalate quickly. I mean, they pretty much have to at this point. We're at the end of the run.


I would say things escalated pretty farking quickly this 1/2 season. Walt did and was party to some pretty irredeemable things. This season he definitely went "full Heisenburg".
 
2012-09-07 07:13:33 PM  

Mulchpuppy: This is all quite interesting, but I notice Vince dodges the most important question of all, and really the key to the entire series:

Whose bathroom was Hank taking a dump in?


The shiatter twas Walt's.
 
2012-09-07 07:14:08 PM  

Mulchpuppy: This is all quite interesting, but I notice Vince dodges the most important question of all, and really the key to the entire series:

Whose bathroom was Hank taking a dump in?


I thought he was going to find the 2nd cell phone in the toilet tank. Wasn't expecting the book thing...
 
2012-09-07 07:15:36 PM  
Seems like there's a long way to go in just 8 episodes from where they left off to what they showed at the beginning of the season. Next (half) season is going to be crazy.
 
2012-09-07 07:18:58 PM  

Mulchpuppy: This is all quite interesting, but I notice Vince dodges the most important question of all, and really the key to the entire series:

Whose bathroom was Hank taking a dump in?



Haven't you been reading past threads? It's Hank's house. You can tell from the pool's layout and everything. It's the same as seen in previous episodes. Hank's house. Book was found in Hank's toilet. Walt brought it there for the cook-out but forgot to take it with him when he finished his own dump. Walt is an idiot!
 
2012-09-07 07:19:44 PM  

Mulchpuppy: This is all quite interesting, but I notice Vince dodges the most important question of all, and really the key to the entire series:

Whose bathroom was Hank taking a dump in?


That's a bullcrap question. The answer is obvious. He went to Jesse's to crap.

What I want to know is where is Ricin Cigarette and why haven't we seen it since season 4?
 
2012-09-07 07:23:49 PM  

that bosnian sniper: Mulchpuppy: This is all quite interesting, but I notice Vince dodges the most important question of all, and really the key to the entire series:

Whose bathroom was Hank taking a dump in?

That's a bullcrap question. The answer is obvious. He went to Jesse's to crap.

What I want to know is where is Ricin Cigarette and why haven't we seen it since season 4?



I might be wrong, but iirc little Brock found it and smoked it. That's why he was admitted to the Lady of the Valley hospital and almost died.
 
2012-09-07 07:24:21 PM  

that bosnian sniper: Mulchpuppy: This is all quite interesting, but I notice Vince dodges the most important question of all, and really the key to the entire series:

Whose bathroom was Hank taking a dump in?

That's a bullcrap question. The answer is obvious. He went to Jesse's to crap.

What I want to know is where is Ricin Cigarette and why haven't we seen it since season 4?


/not sure if serious

It is hidden in an electrical outlet. It was featured in a recent episode, he took it to the dinner where he met Lydia.
 
2012-09-07 07:25:56 PM  

OOBE Juan Kenobi: Mulchpuppy: This is all quite interesting, but I notice Vince dodges the most important question of all, and really the key to the entire series:

Whose bathroom was Hank taking a dump in?

I thought he was going to find the 2nd cell phone in the toilet tank. Wasn't expecting the book thing...


Hank already knows about the second cell. He's just always assumed it was because Walt was having an affair. Now that he suspects the truth about Walt, it will fall right into place with the other details like the gas mask from Walt's school and Walt's spending habits.
 
2012-09-07 07:27:28 PM  

Happy Hours: I also think this last season was weak.


To be fair, it's only the first half of a season. Hard to judge a story arc when you're only halfway through it.
 
2012-09-07 07:28:29 PM  

NeoCortex42: Hank already knows about the second cell. He's just always assumed it was because Walt was having an affair. Now that he suspects the truth about Walt, it will fall right into place with the other details like the gas mask from Walt's school and Walt's spending habits.


and Gus Fring asking him about Walt
 
2012-09-07 07:34:02 PM  

GungFu: that bosnian sniper: Mulchpuppy: This is all quite interesting, but I notice Vince dodges the most important question of all, and really the key to the entire series:

Whose bathroom was Hank taking a dump in?

That's a bullcrap question. The answer is obvious. He went to Jesse's to crap.

What I want to know is where is Ricin Cigarette and why haven't we seen it since season 4?


I might be wrong, but iirc little Brock found it and smoked it. That's why he was admitted to the Lady of the Valley hospital and almost died.


Lutz at this and your previous post.
 
2012-09-07 07:36:28 PM  

Mulchpuppy: Whose bathroom was Hank taking a dump in?


LOL

It continues.
 
2012-09-07 07:39:35 PM  

MagSeven: This break you speak of.....would you consider it.......bad?


At first I was like

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2012-09-07 07:40:29 PM  
"Well, not to give too much away, but yeah, you know. Once you see a Nazi [laughs] you figure you may well see that Nazi again, especially when the head Nazi is played by an actor as wonderful as Michael Bowen"

The probability of Walter White using that machine gun from 5.1 for some live-action Wolfenstein just went up considerably.
 
2012-09-07 07:42:33 PM  

Kanemano: NeoCortex42: Hank already knows about the second cell. He's just always assumed it was because Walt was having an affair. Now that he suspects the truth about Walt, it will fall right into place with the other details like the gas mask from Walt's school and Walt's spending habits.

and Gus Fring asking him about Walt


Yeah, there's a lot of pieces Hank already has. Now that he can place them in the proper context, it will all be crystal clear. It will be interesting if they do a little montage of Hank going through all the evidence Hank already has against Walt.
 
2012-09-07 07:44:47 PM  
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2012-09-07 07:54:36 PM  
"We now have freedom to dispense with the timid storytelling we've been doing so far."

W.T.F.

Cagey B: "Well, not to give too much away, but yeah, you know. Once you see a Nazi [laughs] you figure you may well see that Nazi again, especially when the head Nazi is played by an actor as wonderful as Michael Bowen"

The probability of Walter White using that machine gun from 5.1 for some live-action Wolfenstein just went up considerably.


That hadn't crossed my mind, but it would make sense if Walt is tying up loose ends. The Nazi's want in on the action, despite the fact that Walt is "out?" Maybe they kidnap his daughter?

Todd is going to have a large role from here on out, especially now that Jesse is out. Maybe Todd learns how to do the cook and once Walt leaves, the Nazi's start putting the Blue back on the market and Walt's ego won't allow that to occur?

Hank will not bust Walt; he has too many ties (therapy money, Feds might figure out his office was bugged, etc) not to mention it's family...

Gomie will get killed at some point.

There is going to be a jaw-dropper concerning Walt Jr.

Lydia is going to come out smelling like a rose.

*shakes tiny fist at AMC*

I have to wait until next summer?

Really?
 
2012-09-07 08:01:40 PM  

peewinkle: "We now have freedom to dispense with the timid storytelling we've been doing so far."

W.T.F.


Series finale title: "The Aristocrats"
 
2012-09-07 08:09:23 PM  

GungFu: I might be wrong, but iirc little Brock found it and smoked it. That's why he was admitted to the Lady of the Valley hospital and almost died.


I think you are wrong. Because, if Brock didn't die from smoking the ricin cigarette why did his mom commit suicide by OD'ing on heroin and choking on her own vomit?
 
2012-09-07 08:11:33 PM  

jj325: Happy Hours: I also think this last season was weak.

To be fair, it's only the first half of a season. Hard to judge a story arc when you're only halfway through it.


Maybe I'm just butthurt over them splitting up the season like they did. Other seasons have been slow to get off the ground.

So what are we left with?

1: Walt gets a big gun in the first episode flashforward.
2: Hank figures out that W. W. is Walter White and was working with Gale

There's a few other points made but those 2 are crucial IMO.

I'm not sure when the rest of Season 5 will air, but it sounds like it won't be anytime soon. IMO that means it's a completely separate season.

I just started re-watching this season to pick up on any nuances I may have missed. So far, I've decided I kind of like the Denny's waitress.
 
2012-09-07 08:19:25 PM  

Happy Hours: I just started re-watching this season to pick up on any nuances I may have missed. So far, I've decided I kind of like the Denny's waitress.


Ok, you just watched the first episode, so tell me...

Why would it make ANY sense for Walt to have a Fake ID from New Hampshire with his correct birthday on it? I mean, even if he were given an all new identity surely they wouldn't give him the same damn birthday. Either Gilliam decided to overlook / ignore this fact or it is totally a red herring.
 
2012-09-07 08:20:57 PM  

that bosnian sniper: GungFu: I might be wrong, but iirc little Brock found it and smoked it. That's why he was admitted to the Lady of the Valley hospital and almost died.

I think you are wrong. Because, if Brock didn't die from smoking the ricin cigarette why did his mom commit suicide by OD'ing on heroin and choking on her own vomit?


blogs.amctv.com
 
2012-09-07 08:29:33 PM  
Oh and here are some pretty funny Breaking Bad/Star Wars mashup gifs. It's a slideshow, but very tolerable. Link
 
2012-09-07 08:44:55 PM  

QT_3.14159: Happy Hours: I just started re-watching this season to pick up on any nuances I may have missed. So far, I've decided I kind of like the Denny's waitress.

Ok, you just watched the first episode, so tell me...

Why would it make ANY sense for Walt to have a Fake ID from New Hampshire with his correct birthday on it? I mean, even if he were given an all new identity surely they wouldn't give him the same damn birthday. Either Gilliam decided to overlook / ignore this fact or it is totally a red herring.


I forget, but did Walt ever actually show the waitress the ID with his birthday on it?
 
2012-09-07 08:48:42 PM  

NeoCortex42: QT_3.14159: Happy Hours: I just started re-watching this season to pick up on any nuances I may have missed. So far, I've decided I kind of like the Denny's waitress.

Ok, you just watched the first episode, so tell me...

Why would it make ANY sense for Walt to have a Fake ID from New Hampshire with his correct birthday on it? I mean, even if he were given an all new identity surely they wouldn't give him the same damn birthday. Either Gilliam decided to overlook / ignore this fact or it is totally a red herring.

I forget, but did Walt ever actually show the waitress the ID with his birthday on it?


No, he just made her break the bacon for him as Marie always did.
 
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2012-09-07 08:57:36 PM  
DishTV sucks ass.
 
2012-09-07 09:01:02 PM  

NeoCortex42: QT_3.14159: Happy Hours: I just started re-watching this season to pick up on any nuances I may have missed. So far, I've decided I kind of like the Denny's waitress.

Ok, you just watched the first episode, so tell me...

Why would it make ANY sense for Walt to have a Fake ID from New Hampshire with his correct birthday on it? I mean, even if he were given an all new identity surely they wouldn't give him the same damn birthday. Either Gilliam decided to overlook / ignore this fact or it is totally a red herring.

I forget, but did Walt ever actually show the waitress the ID with his birthday on it?


Yes he does. She looks at it and notes that it is a New Hampshire license and says he's a long way from home.

And I agree - if I were to get a new identity I would definitely pick a different birthday but that probably isn't all that important. If he's ever picked up by cops they'll be looking at a name and birthdate. He has another name. The waitress tells him "Happy Birthday, Mr. Lambert" as he leaves the restaurant.
 
2012-09-07 09:08:02 PM  

Happy Hours: And I agree - if I were to get a new identity I would definitely pick a different birthday but that probably isn't all that important. If he's ever picked up by cops they'll be looking at a name and birthdate. He has another name. The waitress tells him "Happy Birthday, Mr. Lambert" as he leaves the restaurant.


That is something that will trip you up, if someone asks you what's your birthday you can't say that you forgot or gave them the wrong one, tell as few lies as possible to get away with lying.
 
2012-09-07 09:13:49 PM  

MagSeven: Mulchpuppy: This is all quite interesting, but I notice Vince dodges the most important question of all, and really the key to the entire series:

Whose bathroom was Hank taking a dump in?

The shiatter twas Walt's.


I was disappointed by the lack of appropriate sound effects. I'm thinking Hank is "messy".
 
2012-09-07 09:18:25 PM  
What bugs me most is that we're going to have to wait a year for Hank to get off the can.
 
2012-09-07 09:18:56 PM  

Kanemano: Happy Hours: And I agree - if I were to get a new identity I would definitely pick a different birthday but that probably isn't all that important. If he's ever picked up by cops they'll be looking at a name and birthdate. He has another name. The waitress tells him "Happy Birthday, Mr. Lambert" as he leaves the restaurant.

That is something that will trip you up, if someone asks you what's your birthday you can't say that you forgot or gave them the wrong one, tell as few lies as possible to get away with lying.


Quite true - I already have an alternate birthday that I enter on websites which think I should cough up that information. The year is close enough that I can pass for that age and the date is meaningful enough to me that I will have no problem remembering it.

Unless I cut off the thumb on my right hand law enforcement will easily be able to identify me anyway since the DMV in a state I used to live in started requiring that years ago.

But if you ever need to assume a false identity you need to convince not just cops that you are someone else, you need to convince yourself and forget your former life. That would include making a new Fark handle. I'm not quite at that point in my life.
 
2012-09-07 09:20:21 PM  

GungFu: I might be wrong, but iirc little Brock found it and smoked it. That's why he was admitted to the Lady of the Valley hospital and almost died.


I LOL'd.

But on that note, did it strike anyone else as odd how quickly they seem to have dumped Brock and his mother? Jesse just ends it off camera? That seems surprisingly simplistic for the Breaking Bad folks (and if he's out, why not try to rekindle that relationship?).
 
2012-09-07 09:31:10 PM  
At least we finally established after long deliberation that it was, in fact, a bathroom that Hank pooped in.
 
2012-09-07 09:42:32 PM  

Mulchpuppy: GungFu: I might be wrong, but iirc little Brock found it and smoked it. That's why he was admitted to the Lady of the Valley hospital and almost died.

I LOL'd.

But on that note, did it strike anyone else as odd how quickly they seem to have dumped Brock and his mother? Jesse just ends it off camera? That seems surprisingly simplistic for the Breaking Bad folks (and if he's out, why not try to rekindle that relationship?).


He still might. I hope they don't sideline Jesse--he is one of the best parts of the show...biatch!
 
2012-09-07 09:46:55 PM  

that bosnian sniper: At least we finally established after long deliberation that it was, in fact, a bathroom that Hank pooped in.


I don't know if we can assume that just yet. I thought it was very clear that he went into a suspiciously large port-a-potty at the junkyard.
 
2012-09-07 09:49:57 PM  

Porous Horace: What bugs me most is that we're going to have to wait a year for Hank to get off the can.


It bugs YOU? Can you imagine the ass ring a year of sitting on the shiatter would give you? I've been on Fark too long, I just saved the filter the trouble.

Happy Hours: But if you ever need to assume a false identity you need to convince not just cops that you are someone else, you need to convince yourself and forget your former life. That would include making a new Fark handle. I'm not quite at that point in my life.


Heh, I recently gave up a login from 2007 because I didn't like the name anymore. Screw Ashtrey, I never should have used an email from when I was 17.
 
2012-09-07 10:11:20 PM  
I can't wait for this week's episode!!!
 
2012-09-07 10:12:06 PM  
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2012-09-07 10:40:45 PM  
But part of the fun WE have at Fark is dissecting every word they say ourselves.

Otherwise, how else would we come up with The Ricin Cigarette didn't shoot Gale because Todd the DEA agent is going to kill the baby, which is so obvious when you notice she wore chartreuse in one scene...
 
2012-09-07 10:52:50 PM  

AKTurkey: I can't wait for this week's episode!!!


Me either! I just got DISH so I could watch it!
 
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2012-09-07 11:15:48 PM  

Mulchpuppy: This is all quite interesting, but I notice Vince dodges the most important question of all, and really the key to the entire series:

Whose bathroom was Hank taking a dump in?


I'm almost in tears from laughing so much at this. Well played, sir. Well played.
 
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