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(CBS DC)   White House: "It is important not to read too much into one monthly jobs report." Probably not the past 41 monthly reports either   (washington.cbslocal.com) divider line 384
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2012-09-07 07:22:50 PM  

skullkrusher: Trisomy G-21 is a race?

/do the racists call them 'Tri.g' for short?

You sound caucasoid


i.imgur.com

Are we not Men?
 
2012-09-07 07:25:02 PM  

I_C_Weener: Whoops! Who is the retard now?


Never go full retard.
 
2012-09-07 07:26:10 PM  

colon_pow: mrshowrules: colon_pow: the democrats want everyone to be in the middle class. all in the same box. a box where they can keep you where they put you. a concrete box like a prison. we'll all be in there like children in a grade school class, along with the misfits and losers.

how about no? how about letting us all do our best to rise to our own station?

You will get in your middle class box and like it otherwise it is the re-training camps for you and you don't like that we have some nice death panels that would like to meet you. Get in line, you've already been reported.

it's quittin' time. how about i report to my nearest brew pub?


Fine but don't talk politics at the bar. It is inappropriate for starters but based on your arguments the other boys will just tease you.
 
2012-09-07 07:30:14 PM  

Elandriel: I_C_Weener: Exactly.  Without decent growth, the job creation cannot keep up with new workers joining the job market.  That is the biggest issue.  So, saying he created some jobs over the past few years that hasn't kept up with the predictible trend of new workers....is like saying his record is "less bad than if he did nothing".  "Obama...not as bad as it could have been."  "We have stopped sinking like a rock.  Now we are only sinking like a waterlogged dead body."

Sure would be great if he had anything resembling agreeable participation from his counterparts across the aisle, but when you are met with steadfast refusal to even engage in civil discourse let alone actual measurable and progressive solutions, then you're not going to be particularly buoyant. I'm not pinning this on on a president who at least has presented options. This ball is squarely with the House of Representatives.

Pass a bill that isn't obviously partisan and stacked against any reasonable expectation of passing, enough of this horseshiat all-or-nothing brinksmanship, enough of the petty 100% of what we want and 0% of what anyone else wants nonsense. This country isn't the United States of Republicanism. The other ~50% of the nation needs to be met with their requests as well and the abject failure to even address that reality is what is really sinking employment.


Just amazing how liberals put no blame on Obama even with the Woodward excerpts. When even congressional democrats are commenting on Obama's lack of communication... Snowe who liberals were courting to pass bills even commented she hadn't heard from Obama in 2 years.

Take the Damon blinders off. It makes you look silly.
 
2012-09-07 07:31:17 PM  

qorkfiend: Agneska: Obamanomics don't work. But don't worry, he'll shower you with food stamps as you stand on the unemployment line.

I find this highly amusing, considering all of the contradictory pieces of evidence in this very thread.


2nd slowest recovery in history is proof it works?
 
2012-09-07 07:32:41 PM  

Pincy: TIKIMAN87: ignatius_crumbcake: [img809.imageshack.us image 564x352]

Bush still created 5 times more jobs than were lost in the last months of his presidency.

That graph is misleading.

So why didn't he speak at the RNC last week?


Why didn't Carter speak at the dnc?
 
2012-09-07 07:43:06 PM  

MyRandomName: Pincy: TIKIMAN87: ignatius_crumbcake: [img809.imageshack.us image 564x352]

Bush still created 5 times more jobs than were lost in the last months of his presidency.

That graph is misleading.

So why didn't he speak at the RNC last week?

Why didn't Carter speak at the dnc?


he did. First day.
 
2012-09-07 07:47:53 PM  

Pincy: coeyagi: Are you better off than you were 4 Years Ago?

Ya, I don't get why they keep asking this question? I think the majority of people and the economy as a whole is better off than the economic free fall we were in when Bush handed over the economy. I guess the Republicans are betting on the old adage that if you keep telling people they are worse off they will eventually begin to believe it.


It's because they're channeling the Ghost of Ronald Reagan. That was HIS line, and they're unable to think of a better one even a quarter-century later.
 
2012-09-07 08:03:23 PM  

mrshowrules: MyRandomName: Pincy: TIKIMAN87: ignatius_crumbcake: [img809.imageshack.us image 564x352]

Bush still created 5 times more jobs than were lost in the last months of his presidency.

That graph is misleading.

So why didn't he speak at the RNC last week?

Why didn't Carter speak at the dnc?

he did. First day.


www.muzakblog.com
 
2012-09-07 08:09:25 PM  

MyRandomName: Why didn't Carter speak at the dnc?


Because he did?

Link
 
2012-09-07 08:16:45 PM  

metztli: We have the money - we just spend it on destruction instead of creation. We have good people, smart people, people eager to work, so let's put them to work.

Or we could just give millionaires more tax cuts and spend all our money killing brown people, I guess.


Your newsletter, subscribe to it, I would like.
 
2012-09-07 08:18:41 PM  

impaler: MyRandomName: Why didn't Carter speak at the dnc?

Because he did?

Link


Actually, if you go back and listen to Carters 1980 acceptance speech, it sounds very much like the one Obama gave last night. So, in a sense he did speak, aside from that tape BS...

On a side note, I found it laughable when Clinton (in the tape) wondered if he would have had the courage to pull the trigger on Bin Laden. Well, history tells us he wouldn't have because he did have two chances at him and passed. Thanks Billy Jeff for that reminder.
 
2012-09-07 08:24:10 PM  

Brick-House: impaler: MyRandomName: Why didn't Carter speak at the dnc?

Because he did?

Link

Actually, if you go back and listen to Carters 1980 acceptance speech, it sounds very much like the one Obama gave last night. So, in a sense he did speak, aside from that tape BS...

On a side note, I found it laughable when Clinton (in the tape) wondered if he would have had the courage to pull the trigger on Bin Laden. Well, history tells us he wouldn't have because he did have two chances at him and passed. Thanks Billy Jeff for that reminder.


Billy boy took his shot. Carter took his (Iran hostages). They both missed. Your man Dubya choked at Tora Bora. Obama didnt.
 
2012-09-07 08:33:15 PM  
I agree with you about Dubya choking at Tora Bora. I so so kick him in the nuts over that. But what shot did Clinton take? I remember Sudan offering up Bin Laden and clinton saying no because he wasn't sure what to do with him and then I remember he know where he was, but we didn't take a shot because some Saudi secon cousin was visiting him and we were worried about pissing off the Saudis. And Piss on them. So what shot did he take and miss?
 
2012-09-07 08:35:20 PM  

impaler: Because he did?

Link


That was awesome. "We don't need to go back to the failed policies of the past! Now here's Jimmy Carter"
 
2012-09-07 10:54:08 PM  

Brick-House: impaler: MyRandomName: Why didn't Carter speak at the dnc?

Because he did?

Link

Actually, if you go back and listen to Carters 1980 acceptance speech, it sounds very much like the one Obama gave last night. So, in a sense he did speak, aside from that tape BS...

On a side note, I found it laughable when Clinton (in the tape) wondered if he would have had the courage to pull the trigger on Bin Laden. Well, history tells us he wouldn't have because he did have two chances at him and passed. Thanks Billy Jeff for that reminder.


Gee, I wonder who was supposed to be in that tent he took a shot at that resulted in accusations of 'wag the dog!'

/he took a shot. Missed. Predator drones were unarmed in those days, so there was a timelag while a tomahawk was sent in.

/or are you suggesting the pre-crime thing where one is supposed to get Bin Laden before he did something against the US
 
2012-09-07 11:03:52 PM  
Why didnt the RNC invite Bush to speak at their convention?

/ Anyone???
 
2012-09-07 11:09:59 PM  

ignatius_crumbcake: [img809.imageshack.us image 564x352]


Uh... The blue bars add up to a negative blue bar....... Win!?
 
2012-09-07 11:13:36 PM  

tinyarena: [img11.imageshack.us image 371x454]
While people lost their homes.
While families fell apart.
While businesses died.

While we begged for help from our "leaders."

Never forget, and never forgive.

/VOTE


While Barry passed the biggest tax increase in history.

//exactly
 
2012-09-07 11:42:50 PM  
I've been going by what I've been seeing.

The economy has been weakened so much by inflation that I'm pretty sure I'm seeing an increase in traffic when the dollar regains some value. The added value allows people to hire and others to afford to work to make a living.

As commodities and stock prices pulled back traffic increased. Now that the trend has reversed I expect we will once again be losing jobs.

People still seem to be falling for the things are great when the stock market moves up mantra. Have they ever told you that the stock market went up today because the value of the dollar went down?

Maybe if you can see it with your eyes. Take a look at the to following charts. When they double the money supply it then takes twice as many of something that now has half as much value. Even though you got twice as many of something with the same value they trick you into paying capital gains taxes on false profits. They cut themselves in on your stuff.


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In order to easily see the increase is proportional, pretend the Dow Jones Industrial chart is an average of one hundred stocks and divide by one hundred by knocking off two zeros. 

I'm thinking the economy is stretched just that tight.
 
2012-09-07 11:57:32 PM  

StokeyBob: Maybe if you can see it with your eyes. Take a look at the to following charts. When they double the money supply it then takes twice as many of something that now has half as much value. Even though you got twice as many of something with the same value they trick you into paying capital gains taxes on false profits. They cut themselves in on your stuff.


You mean those two charts, one of which covers 1665 to 2013 (estimated), and another 1890 to 2010? Those two charts? Two hockey sticks, one with a 348 year base, the other 120 years, with 'knees' at totally different years?

Compare them? Really? 

Can we do apples and oranges next?
 
2012-09-08 12:19:52 AM  
is that really a price level chart going back to the 17th century because holy lol
 
2012-09-08 12:25:53 AM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: StokeyBob: Maybe if you can see it with your eyes. Take a look at the to following charts. When they double the money supply it then takes twice as many of something that now has half as much value. Even though you got twice as many of something with the same value they trick you into paying capital gains taxes on false profits. They cut themselves in on your stuff.

You mean those two charts, one of which covers 1665 to 2013 (estimated), and another 1890 to 2010? Those two charts? Two hockey sticks, one with a 348 year base, the other 120 years, with 'knees' at totally different years?

Compare them? Really? 

Can we do apples and oranges next?


Sorry your not seeing what some of us older people lived through. The knees really took off back in the sixties. They had fired up the fake money presses for the latest wars against mankind then. When people started saying, "Hey" they went totally off of any dollar standard around 71. It is kind of like they do things now. They do what they want and later come around on legality or admission.

Actually instead of apples and oranges maybe we get back on pie? I'm not sure what the best pie is but right now I'm thinking apple pie and ice cream might be nice. I am pretty sure about the best fiat currency though. I'm thinking this is the only one that increases in value the more it is reproduced.


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2012-09-08 12:39:23 AM  

StokeyBob: People still seem to be falling for the things are great when the stock market moves up mantra.


That's because we've been force fed the trickle-down supply-side bullshiat for the past few decades that if the rich do better we all do better.
 
2012-09-08 12:50:40 AM  

StokeyBob: I've been going by what I've been seeing.

The economy has been weakened so much by inflation that I'm pretty sure I'm seeing an increase in traffic when the dollar regains some value. The added value allows people to hire and others to afford to work to make a living.

As commodities and stock prices pulled back traffic increased. Now that the trend has reversed I expect we will once again be losing jobs.

People still seem to be falling for the things are great when the stock market moves up mantra. Have they ever told you that the stock market went up today because the value of the dollar went down?

Maybe if you can see it with your eyes. Take a look at the to following charts. When they double the money supply it then takes twice as many of something that now has half as much value. Even though you got twice as many of something with the same value they trick you into paying capital gains taxes on false profits. They cut themselves in on your stuff.


[photos.imageevent.com image 130x155]Click to embiggen


[photos.imageevent.com image 130x155]Click to embiggen


In order to easily see the increase is proportional, pretend the Dow Jones Industrial chart is an average of one hundred stocks and divide by one hundred by knocking off two zeros. 

I'm thinking the economy is stretched just that tight.


Literal hyperbole!
 
2012-09-08 01:48:02 AM  

Heraclitus: Why didnt the RNC invite Bush to speak at their convention?

/ Anyone???


nice try libs but he's a RINO
 
2012-09-08 01:59:31 AM  

falcon176: Heraclitus: Why didnt the RNC invite Bush to speak at their convention?

/ Anyone???

nice try libs but he's a RINO


Ya, but so is Reagan and they keep digging up his corpse.
 
2012-09-08 04:17:32 AM  

theknuckler_33: SlothB77: There are 243,566,000 Americans at least 16 years old; and not in the military, prison, mental hospital or a nursing home.

Of those, 88,921,000 are not working nor have looked for a job in the past four weeks. In other words, 37% of people capable of working don't even attempt to get a job. Another 12,544,000 are looking for work, but remain unemployed, which is 5% of the pool of people capable of working.

Of the pool of people capable of working, only 58% of them are actually working - 142,101,000 people.

Assuming a US population of 315,000,000 people, that is only 45% of the total population of the USA that works.

Obama's America

So, you excluded the under 16 year olds when you wanted the % number to be high and then re-included them wen you wanted the % number to be low? That is farking AWESOME!!!

/let's not even talk about old people


PLUS, the people who are not working are just shiftless slackers. why do we care about those losers in the first place??
:D
 
2012-09-08 07:36:36 AM  

James!: I keep hearing the sky is falling, but I've had 3 recruiters call me in the last week.


Typical white person response, while half of blacks males can't get a job.

How many of these new jobs are in fast food and janitorial? About 75%, maybe more.
 
2012-09-08 07:38:21 AM  

mrshowrules: MyRandomName: Pincy: TIKIMAN87: ignatius_crumbcake: [img809.imageshack.us image 564x352]

Bush still created 5 times more jobs than were lost in the last months of his presidency.

That graph is misleading.

So why didn't he speak at the RNC last week?

Why didn't Carter speak at the dnc?

he did. First day.


And was channeled in the last speech of the last day.
 
2012-09-08 08:02:55 AM  

TheDumbBlonde: MartinD-35: I_C_Weener: ignatius_crumbcake: [img809.imageshack.us image 564x352]


Just out of curiosity...why is unemployement still over 8% then?  Maybe job creation isn't keeping up with job losses...or something else is at work here....  hmmm.

You frigging waste of DNA: the republicons in Congress failed to pass a very generous to small business (actually a previous republicon idea) jobs act because they wanted the country and our economy to fail. They are treasonist bastards and should be lined up on a wall the pasted with rotten fruit. Yes, something else is working here you idiot - the deliberate destruction of our economy by the republicons.

LOL. You just called out one of the brightest and most reasonable people on Fark.


Well, perhaps I was thinking he was I.C. Weener, or some other iteration of Buster Hyman or whatever, if this is a different alt (I notice he's a modmin, so I have doubts here) then perhaps he's a different person from the fairly conservative person who's been on fark for many years; but I still think it's a childish moniker. And the comment stands that the republicons are treasonist bastards who should be in jail at the least for putting political ambitions ahead of the country in such a way as to attempt to destroy the economy so the tea baggers can take over the country and turn it into an oligarchy. I don't know how smart the dude is, but I have a mensa membership and am extremely well educated (both my parents had PhDs). I've got 61 spins around the sun that suggest I've seen more than the average person. Correct me if I'm wrong dumb blonde, Is this the same alt as the "original" 10 years at least poster with that name? I notice the dash spacing, and I think this may be a different person. In any event, blaming Obama for the failure of the 'cons to accept the (all major economics agree here) second jobs bill is specious. The 'cons are responsible for all our economic problems in the nation. Please enlighten me.
 
2012-09-08 08:21:29 AM  
Taxation without representation.

We has it.

And it has out jobs.
 
2012-09-08 09:28:14 AM  

soy_bomb: shastacola: soy_bomb: 368,000 people dropped out the job market, 96,000 found jobs. That's a recovery?

So the private sector won't hire despite paying the lowest taxes in history and the republicans will not pass a jobs bill.

Yea, they have been slacking....

[...]


Most of those have nothing to do with adding jobs, and in fact many of them would remove regulations that prevent companies from harming the environment or the consumer.

You did forget to include this bill which was signed into law by the President on April 5, 2012
H.R. 3606: Jumpstart Our Business Startups

And of course, the one that the House even refuses to bring to Committee for discussion, the American Jobs Act.
 
2012-09-08 11:33:55 AM  

namatad: impaler: U3 and U6 say the same thing, they just have a different scale. So when someone states U6 (when everyone is used to U3's smaller scale), they're trying to mislead.

I have been tagging them as U6 trolls. And after a few postings, I just put them on ignore. they NEVER have anything to say. EVER


i50.tinypic.com
 
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