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(CBS DC)   White House: "It is important not to read too much into one monthly jobs report." Probably not the past 41 monthly reports either   (washington.cbslocal.com) divider line 384
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2012-09-07 03:28:24 PM

Nadie_AZ: make me some tea: impaler: Do we really need this thread again?
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Every 4 hours until everyone is in agreement.

Fine. I agree that cherry pie is the best pie. Anyone want to carry the motion?


Seconded.
 
2012-09-07 03:28:30 PM

Agneska: Obamanomics don't work. But don't worry, he'll shower you with food stamps as you stand on the unemployment line.


I find this highly amusing, considering all of the contradictory pieces of evidence in this very thread.
 
2012-09-07 03:28:37 PM
When you can't even have the last President to represent your Party speak at your Convention because of his absolutely dismal economic record I don't want to hear from you about how Obama is screwing up the economy.
 
2012-09-07 03:29:17 PM

ignatius_crumbcake: [img809.imageshack.us image 564x352]


Bush still created 5 times more jobs than were lost in the last months of his presidency.

That graph is misleading.
 
2012-09-07 03:29:49 PM

Brick-House: 23.1 million not working... Not that anyone (Obama) is counting.


So NOW you want the government to be involved in the economy? OK - ask Boehner why Congress hasn't passed a jobs bill since the GOP took over the House in 2011.

To sign a jobs bill, Obama has to get one sent to his desk. The president can't rule by fiat - and if he tried, you'd be farking biatching about it.
 
2012-09-07 03:30:00 PM

Nadie_AZ: make me some tea: impaler: Do we really need this thread again?
Link

Every 4 hours until everyone is in agreement.

Fine. I agree that cherry pie is the best pie. Anyone want to carry the motion?


Cheesecake, with its lack of a top crust, is technically a pie. And cheesecake is greater than cherry pie.
 
2012-09-07 03:31:12 PM

TIKIMAN87: ignatius_crumbcake: [img809.imageshack.us image 564x352]

Bush still created 5 times more jobs than were lost in the last months of his presidency.

That graph is misleading.


So why didn't he speak at the RNC last week?
 
2012-09-07 03:31:31 PM

skullkrusher: having strong growth is even better


The private sector is welcome to get going on that any time it wants.

Agneska: Obamanomics don't work. But don't worry, he'll shower you with food stamps as you stand on the unemployment line.


Funny how you won't blame the private sector for the state of things given it's their fault things are how they are.
 
2012-09-07 03:31:43 PM

TIKIMAN87: Bush still created 5 times more jobs than were lost in the last months of his presidency.


Bush had the worst job and GDP growth of any administration since Eisenhower. He made history with his bad economy. And you are defending his record. lol
 
2012-09-07 03:31:54 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Obama's plans work. Steady job growth, even though the GOP has fought and blocked everything that would help.

The stock market is at record highs and corporations have never made more profits.


The stock market is high becuase his buddy Ben Bernanke has printed trillions of dollars into the system. The market is inflated and will crash even harder in the end.

Obama has all 3 branches in his first 2 years and yet he passed no jobs bills. Only cramming health care through.
 
2012-09-07 03:32:08 PM

I_C_Weener: ignatius_crumbcake: [img809.imageshack.us image 564x352]


Just out of curiosity...why is unemployement still over 8% then?  Maybe job creation isn't keeping up with job losses...or something else is at work here....  hmmm.


People laid-off from factory work are unemployable sometimes?
 
2012-09-07 03:32:21 PM

urbangirl: Nadie_AZ: make me some tea: impaler: Do we really need this thread again?
Link

Every 4 hours until everyone is in agreement.

Fine. I agree that cherry pie is the best pie. Anyone want to carry the motion?

Seconded.


extras.mnginteractive.com

agrees
 
2012-09-07 03:32:25 PM

gameshowhost: xsive: I can has place blame on G0P obstruction?

No. That's not real, and it never happened. The GOP is the most helpful party of all time.


yes but what about the G0P?

/as clinton basically called them
 
2012-09-07 03:32:47 PM
Come on! President Romney and a big Republican majority in Congress! Trickle that motherfarker down! We can get this up to 20% U3 and maybe get a proper revolution going! Yeah!
 
2012-09-07 03:33:17 PM

WhyteRaven74: The private sector is welcome to get going on that any time it wants.


*rolleyes*
 
2012-09-07 03:33:23 PM

namatad: impaler: U3 and U6 say the same thing, they just have a different scale. So when someone states U6 (when everyone is used to U3's smaller scale), they're trying to mislead.

I have been tagging them as U6 trolls. And after a few postings, I just put them on ignore. they NEVER have anything to say. EVER


Clearly, you've never read any of their Post6s When they make a Post6, it has a completely different tone and feeling to it that adds a sense of urgency.
 
2012-09-07 03:33:38 PM

TIKIMAN87: AdolfOliverPanties: Obama's plans work. Steady job growth, even though the GOP has fought and blocked everything that would help.

The stock market is at record highs and corporations have never made more profits.

The stock market is high becuase his buddy Ben Bernanke has printed trillions of dollars into the system. The market is inflated and will crash even harder in the end.

Obama has all 3 branches in his first 2 years and yet he passed no jobs bills. Only cramming health care through.


FALSE
 
2012-09-07 03:34:26 PM
368,000 people dropped out the job market, 96,000 found jobs. That's a recovery?
 
2012-09-07 03:34:39 PM

MisterLoki: [i568.photobucket.com image 380x446]


People keep posting that as if it means Obama is a lock for re-election. If that's what you think it means, then you don't understand what it says. Those aren't poll numbers, they're odds. It's saying Romney has a little worse than a 1 in 4 chance of winning the election. Sure, Obama is in a better position, but that is a long, long way from certain victory. Would you play Russian Roulette with a four barrel gun? If you're an Obama supporter and that sounds like lousy odds to you, then you shouldn't be happy with these numbers.
 
2012-09-07 03:34:42 PM
 
2012-09-07 03:34:54 PM

jst3p: Cheesecake, with its lack of a top crust, is technically a pie. And cheesecake is greater than cherry pie.


The best cheesecake doesn't need a crust. Just a crumble.

/seriously, the trick to cheesecake is to rice the cream cheese
 
2012-09-07 03:35:03 PM

skullkrusher: *rolleyes*


So the private sector can't do anything to effect the economy?
 
2012-09-07 03:35:14 PM
A vast majority of long term unemployed are simply unemployable.
 
2012-09-07 03:35:18 PM
Why is this so hard to understand?

1) Retirees retire.
2) Some people lose hope and leave workforce because dickhead employers are holding onto huge profits, exec salaries just so Romney can win and give them tax breaks.
3) There are something like 300,000 unfilled jobs because people aren't qualified. You know why? Because in some cases, people who are qualified jump at entry or low-mid level jobs after being out of work for so long, leaving a skill vacuum at the top.
4) GOP obstructionism.

or

1) Obama is a Fart who mines farts while he secretly Muslim farts out socialism.
 
2012-09-07 03:35:40 PM

soy_bomb: 368,000 people dropped out the job market, 96,000 found jobs. That's a recovery?


Ever heard of retirement?
 
2012-09-07 03:35:43 PM

I_C_Weener: Just out of curiosity...why is unemployement still over 8% then? Maybe job creation isn't keeping up with job losses...or something else is at work here.... hmmm.


Think back to your high-school calculus classes. The "monthly changes" chart looks pretty much like the derivative of the U3/U6 graph 2 posts below it, and there's still a larger area below the line 2008-2009 (aka the "Obama recession") than there is above the line 2010-present. So vote Republican.
 
2012-09-07 03:35:45 PM

CPennypacker: TIKIMAN87: AdolfOliverPanties: Obama's plans work. Steady job growth, even though the GOP has fought and blocked everything that would help.

The stock market is at record highs and corporations have never made more profits.

The stock market is high becuase his buddy Ben Bernanke has printed trillions of dollars into the system. The market is inflated and will crash even harder in the end.

Obama has all 3 branches in his first 2 years and yet he passed no jobs bills. Only cramming health care through.

FALSE


Hey I can do that too TRUE
 
2012-09-07 03:36:06 PM

Agneska: Obamanomics don't work. But don't worry, he'll shower you with food stamps as you stand on the unemployment line.


You mean give you the same number of food stamps as Bush?
 
2012-09-07 03:36:30 PM

leviosaurus: People keep posting that as if it means Obama is a lock for re-election. If that's what you think it means, then you don't understand what it says. Those aren't poll numbers, they're odds.


Which, the thing that says "chance of winning"? That just means odds?

Wow, I learn something new every day.

Thank you, your post was not totally wasted in a puddle of froth and vomit.

leviosaurus: Would you play Russian Roulette with a four barrel gun?


"Both sides are bad, so kill yourself." Catchy.
 
2012-09-07 03:36:48 PM

xsive: gameshowhost: xsive: I can has place blame on G0P obstruction?

No. That's not real, and it never happened. The GOP is the most helpful party of all time.

yes but what about the G0P G-zeee-roh-P ?

/as clinton basically called them


FTFY
 
2012-09-07 03:37:05 PM

praymantis: CPennypacker: TIKIMAN87: AdolfOliverPanties: Obama's plans work. Steady job growth, even though the GOP has fought and blocked everything that would help.

The stock market is at record highs and corporations have never made more profits.

The stock market is high becuase his buddy Ben Bernanke has printed trillions of dollars into the system. The market is inflated and will crash even harder in the end.

Obama has all 3 branches in his first 2 years and yet he passed no jobs bills. Only cramming health care through.

FALSE

Hey I can do that too TRUE


except it really is false
 
2012-09-07 03:38:13 PM

Mrtraveler01: TIKIMAN87: Oh...forgot to add the total labor force is as low as it was in 1981.

Obummer the failure.

And the trend started under Bush. Funny huh?

[research.stlouisfed.org image 630x378]


I wonder if anyone remebers what happened 62 to 67 years ago that would cause the Labor Force Participation rate to go down so drasticly in the last years and continue on forapproximately the next 10 years?
 
2012-09-07 03:38:22 PM

leviosaurus: MisterLoki: [i568.photobucket.com image 380x446]

People keep posting that as if it means Obama is a lock for re-election. If that's what you think it means, then you don't understand what it says. Those aren't poll numbers, they're odds. It's saying Romney has a little worse than a 1 in 4 chance of winning the election. Sure, Obama is in a better position, but that is a long, long way from certain victory. Would you play Russian Roulette with a four barrel gun? If you're an Obama supporter and that sounds like lousy odds to you, then you shouldn't be happy with these numbers.


In politics, a 77% percent chance for victory might as well be a landslide.
Similarly, if you get a poll back and its 60/40, you do not get excited because you're only 20 points behind your opponent. you don't say "Well, he's only got 60%!"

Anyhow, it's an aggregate of electoral math. Common sense says that Romney's losing his footholds and his paths to 270 - that's one of the reasons why Obama is up nearly 10% in the last week.
 
2012-09-07 03:38:23 PM

WhyteRaven74: soy_bomb: 368,000 people dropped out the job market, 96,000 found jobs. That's a recovery?

Ever heard of retirement?


Most of today's seniors don't know what that means.

/lame democrat(ic) talking point is lame
//maybe Obama will give you a gold star still for trying
 
2012-09-07 03:38:27 PM

CPennypacker: praymantis: CPennypacker: TIKIMAN87: AdolfOliverPanties: Obama's plans work. Steady job growth, even though the GOP has fought and blocked everything that would help.

The stock market is at record highs and corporations have never made more profits.

The stock market is high becuase his buddy Ben Bernanke has printed trillions of dollars into the system. The market is inflated and will crash even harder in the end.

Obama has all 3 branches in his first 2 years and yet he passed no jobs bills. Only cramming health care through.

FALSE

Hey I can do that too TRUE

except it really is false


it's false and it's been gone over on fark so many times I can't believe there's anyone who still pushes this BS.
 
2012-09-07 03:38:28 PM

WhyteRaven74: skullkrusher: *rolleyes*

So the private sector can't do anything to effect the economy?


so it doesn't matter who we elect in November, this is on the "private sector"? ya know, that monolith.

What would you have the "private sector" do? Force people to shop at gunpoint? Hire people when they are able to meet demand with their current workforce? Which do you propose, because those are the 2 options.

The first is very bad, the second is "congrats, you're now a supply sider"
 
2012-09-07 03:39:05 PM

praymantis: CPennypacker: TIKIMAN87: AdolfOliverPanties: Obama's plans work. Steady job growth, even though the GOP has fought and blocked everything that would help.

The stock market is at record highs and corporations have never made more profits.

The stock market is high becuase his buddy Ben Bernanke has printed trillions of dollars into the system. The market is inflated and will crash even harder in the end.

Obama has all 3 branches in his first 2 years and yet he passed no jobs bills. Only cramming health care through.

FALSE

Hey I can do that too TRUE


Ok, facts.

Al Franken wasn't confirmed until May, June 2009? Something like that. Then Kennedy dies in September 2009? I may be off by a month or two for each. And then Scott Brown gets in Jan 2010. So.... you're looking at about 4-6 months of filibuster-proof majority in the Senate.

Again, FALSE.
 
2012-09-07 03:39:24 PM

Mrtraveler01: TIKIMAN87: Oh...forgot to add the total labor force is as low as it was in 1981.

Obummer the failure.

And the trend started under Bush. Funny huh?

[research.stlouisfed.org image 630x378]


Explain to me how enumployment has dropped from over 10% to 8% with more and more people not working?

You see it's easy for the rate to drop when you simply stop counting people.
 
2012-09-07 03:40:16 PM

soy_bomb: 368,000 people dropped out the job market, 96,000 found jobs. That's a recovery?


THIS.
 
2012-09-07 03:41:16 PM

TIKIMAN87: THIS.


Don't you want to defend Bush's jobs record some more?
 
2012-09-07 03:41:20 PM
Supply side economics works great if your money works for you.
If you work for your money...not so much.
 
2012-09-07 03:41:32 PM

Citrate1007: A vast majority of long term unemployed are simply unemployable.


What hard core unemployables might look like.

4.bp.blogspot.com

//obscure?
 
2012-09-07 03:41:54 PM

sprawl15: jst3p: Cheesecake, with its lack of a top crust, is technically a pie. And cheesecake is greater than cherry pie.

The best cheesecake doesn't need a crust. Just a crumble.

/seriously, the trick to cheesecake is to rice the cream cheese



upgrade the exaust, body kits, nitrous, spoilers, speakers, lights?

www.civicforumz.com
 
2012-09-07 03:42:13 PM

TIKIMAN87: AdolfOliverPanties: Obama's plans work. Steady job growth, even though the GOP has fought and blocked everything that would help.

The stock market is at record highs and corporations have never made more profits.

The stock market is high becuase his buddy Ben Bernanke has printed trillions of dollars into the system. The market is inflated and will crash even harder in the end.

Obama has all 3 branches in his first 2 years and yet he passed no jobs bills. Only cramming health care through.


That is utter bull pockey. The stimulous bill wa passed within the fist 2 years and actually worked.
 
2012-09-07 03:42:16 PM

soy_bomb: 368,000 people dropped out the job market, 96,000 found jobs. That's a recovery?


So the private sector won't hire despite paying the lowest taxes in history and the republicans will not pass a jobs bill.
 
2012-09-07 03:42:40 PM

praymantis: CPennypacker: TIKIMAN87: AdolfOliverPanties: Obama's plans work. Steady job growth, even though the GOP has fought and blocked everything that would help.

The stock market is at record highs and corporations have never made more profits.

The stock market is high becuase his buddy Ben Bernanke has printed trillions of dollars into the system. The market is inflated and will crash even harder in the end.

Obama has all 3 branches in his first 2 years and yet he passed no jobs bills. Only cramming health care through.

FALSE

Hey I can do that too TRUE


Three branches? Never mind the lie about the Legislative branch you think he controlled the Judicial branch as well? Really?
 
2012-09-07 03:42:59 PM
freakin blah guy.
 
2012-09-07 03:43:03 PM

shastacola: soy_bomb: 368,000 people dropped out the job market, 96,000 found jobs. That's a recovery?

So the private sector won't hire despite paying the lowest taxes in history and the republicans will not pass a jobs bill.


And.... of course... that's FartBooger's fault.
 
2012-09-07 03:43:04 PM

soy_bomb: /lame democrat(ic) talking point is lame


It's not a talking point, a part of why people leave the workforce is retirement. And right now we have tons of people hitting retirement age.

skullkrusher: because those are the 2 options.


There are other options, invest in capital improvements ie buy new equipment to replace old equipment, increase wages, like Caterpillar which has in place a freeze on wage increases while reporting record profits, hire back people that were let go. Just because 10 people can manage to do the work of 12 does not mean having them do so is a good idea. If a company is making as much stuff as before it laid people off but doing it with fewer workers it's not exactly do anyone, including itself, any favors. And there are other options as well, though some are industry specific but they are there.
 
2012-09-07 03:43:20 PM

TIKIMAN87: 386,000 people dropped from looking for employment last month.

96,000 jobs created and unemployment drops .2%. WTF

This is Obamas America everybody. Sucking off the government.

Throw his ass out!


The birth rate (per 1000 population) during the early part of the baby-boom (~1945-1950) was in the neighborhod of about 24. The US population during those years averaged roughly 145 million.

(145 million/1000) x 24 is about 3.5 million births per year on (rough) average. Every one of those people is 62 or older now with even larger numbers of people approaching those ages. If hundreds of thousands of these people are dropping out of job searches now for 'early' retirement... so be it.
 
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